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00:00<somiaj>oh to late, they let
00:04<plant-man>Maybe this question relates to that question.. Why are there only large metapackages for cinnamon and mate? And not the others?
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00:04<plant-man>For cinnamon, for example, you'd just install 'cinnamon-desktop-environment'.
00:05<plant-man>try looking at output from the command 'apt-cache desktop-environment'
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00:06<annadane>mate has full *and* minimal as does kde, not sure what the question is
00:06<annadane>and of course you can always choose to just install the window manager and do it piecemeal
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00:07<plant-man>mate's peacemeal looks good, but why dont the other-s have a '-desktop-environment' ?
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00:08<annadane>i think it's just an arbitrary naming thing
00:08<plant-man>ok, that answers it. ty.
00:08<annadane>for MATE you'd install marco, which is the window manager
00:09<annadane>for xfce i tend to just install xfce4 and xfce4-goodies but you can forego all that and install xfwm4
00:09<somiaj>plant-man: every DE has multiple large metapackages and a task meta package
00:09<somiaj>plant-man: names change based on the matainers/group.
00:10<somiaj>the tasksel metapackages are probably the most unifomrally named on this
00:10<plant-man>ok. I now understand '-desktop-environment' isnt a universal naming convention,.
00:12<plant-man>Is there some way to list/or-search-for 'tasksel' metapackages?
00:13<mnuhmnuh>"apt-cache search desktop-environment" mentions cinnamon, mate, rhythmbox and flatpak. ?!? mate works well enough; never spent much time w cinnamon - resource hoggy?
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00:15<plant-man>From what I observed so far, I thought rhythmbox was a music program, and not a DE, and flatpak--My impression was that it was still experimental or something.
00:16<somiaj>plant-man: just run 'tasksel' and you get the same tool that you did with the installer, tasksel can also be controled using tasksel as an cli tool, tasksel install foo.
00:16<somiaj>I think all the packages are call task-
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00:16<somiaj>apt-cache search --names-only task | grep ^task, but you can also use tasksel, I just don't have it installed so can't look up the flags.
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00:18<plant-man>somiaj: Wow, I didnt know running "$> tasksel <ENTER>" would do it all for you--its amazing!
00:19*mnuhmnuh why do you think we're here?
00:19<plant-man>TY people. :)
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00:28<plant-man>Ok, now I got somiaj's apt-cache command to work. This is a nice list!
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00:32<coruja>'apt list task-*' works too
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00:34<plant-man>Wow. Very neat. I'll have to write that one down too.
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00:35<somiaj>tasksel can also list them, but unsure on the details since I don't have ti installed
00:36<plant-man>Wow. This is good stuff. I wish i knew this stuff b4.
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00:44<rob_debian>Hi all, please, I upgraded my Debian OS yerterday (stable but non-free version, because of some needed firmware for this notebook) from backports version 4.14 to 4.15.4-1 (2018-02-18) sid
00:44<somiaj>rob_debian: If running sid it is prefered you ask in #debian-next. Were you informed that stretch-backports likely has the newer kernel and firmware that you could have used on stable?
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00:45<rob_debian>Hi somiaj, glad to see you here again :). well, I don't intend to continue using it, somiaj, I intend to downgrade to original 4.14 from backports
00:46<rob_debian>yes, somiaj, I knew about it
00:46<somiaj>ahh so you are just testing sid, there really is no way to downgrade, but it is a fun learning experiment
00:46<rob_debian>backports version always ran fine and stable here. that's why I intend to come back to it
00:46<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: non-free is intended to restrict devs (from stealing others' code), not users. no need to apologise. :-)
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00:47<mnuhmnuh>for using it.
00:47<rob_debian>Hi,mnuhmnuh, nice to see you too !:)
00:48<mnuhmnuh>buenos dias.
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00:51<rob_debian>buenas ! lol, I think I'll invite to give you some spanish classes, mnuhmnuh !
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00:52<rob_debian>somiaj and mnuhmnuh, please, take a look on it: linux-image-4.15.0-1-amd64 - linux-image-4.15.0-1-amd64... so, there is this version in backports repository, stable and secure.
00:52<somiaj>mnuhmnuh: so then why is gnu docs in non-free? Also lots of wifi firmware is non-free due to legal issues (such as it is illegal in many countries to give people the ability to control frequency and power of wirless transmission)
00:53<somiaj>,kernels
00:53<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686 (4.15~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.15.0-1-686 (4.15.4-1); buster: 4.15.0-1-686 (4.15.4-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.82-1+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
00:53<judd>(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3)
00:53<rob_debian>well, that's my kernel version here !
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00:53<rob_debian>#1 SMP Debian 4.15.4-1 (2018-02-18)
00:53<somiaj>rob_debian: the 4.15 kernel hasn't made it to backports yet, since it is now in stretch, I expect the 4.15 kernel to be in backports soon. AT this time 4.14 is the newest in backports.
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00:53<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: learned all i need from cheech & chong. que pasa?
00:54<rob_debian>oh, I see, somiaj, but why does it appear on my list here through 'apt-cache search linux-image' ?
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00:55<somiaj>rob_debian: you said you were running sid right? I was talking about backports.
00:55<mnuhmnuh>somiaj: you know how rms thinks about free. you know how fscked up the (all) legal systems are. still, non-free restricts devs, not users.
00:55<rob_debian>fine, mnuhmnuh, if you can speak fluently in spanish, you can practice with me one of these days :)
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00:56<rob_debian>yes, somiaj, but I removed sid line in /etc/apt/sources.list, only used it to install 4.15
00:56<somiaj>you have to run apt update after removing a line for the database to update.
00:57<somiaj>also be careful, in gneral you don't awnt to add sid sources to add just a single package, that can cause problems due to depends.
00:57<rob_debian>and I've done it, somiaj....anyway, is that possible installing 4.14 over 4.15 ? not technically possible doing it ?
00:57<somiaj>they are seperate packages, so you can have both installed
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00:58<rob_debian>really ? because 4.15 is sid repository and 4.14 belongs to backports repository, is that right ?
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00:58<rob_debian>or, am I getting a bit confused here ?:(
00:58<somiaj>sure, but the packages have different names, kernels have always been like this.
00:59<somiaj>one would be called something like linux-image-4.15.0-1-amd64 and the other linux-image-4.14.0-0.bpo.3-amd64
00:59<rob_debian>so, I just need to remove 4.15 ? Debian will recognize 4.14 after reboot ?
00:59<coruja>rob_debian, try 'apt install linux-image-amd64/stretch-backports'
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01:00<rob_debian>Hi coruja !
01:00<somiaj>rob_debian: if you have 4.14 intalled, you can just choose it from the grub boto menu, no reason to remove it
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01:01<rob_debian>oh, it doesn't appear options to be selected
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01:01<rob_debian>looks like I don't have backported here anymore.
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01:03<coruja>apt list --installed linux-image*
01:03<rob_debian>no need on doing like that, coruja. see what's happened: linux-image-4.14.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 is already the newest version (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1)
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01:04<rob_debian>but according 'uname -rv', my actual kernel in use is 4.15.4-1 (2018-02-18)
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01:04<somiaj>you can have more than one kernel installed, dpkg -l | grep linux-image to see installed kernels.
01:05<rob_debian>please, somiaj, what do you think I use: 'apt-get purge 4.15.4-1 (2018-02-18)' ?
01:05<jm_>by default debian will boot the newest kernel so it's logical uname -r says 4.15
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01:05<jm_>you can change the default via /etc/default/grub
01:05<rob_debian>hi jm_ nice to see you again, after long time !
01:05<jm_>if you want to select it manually you will find it under Advanced ... menu
01:06<jm_>(in GRUB)
01:06<jm_>rob_debian: heya
01:06<somiaj>there are also commands you can run to boot another kernel as a one time thing
01:06<jm_>indeed, grub-reboot
01:07<rob_debian>I see, somiaj and jm_, let me see what I have to do here. any trouble, I'll ask you for help
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01:09<rob_debian>Please, how do proceed in /etc/default/grub to be able to boot the previou 4.14 backports version ? There are tons of info over there....
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01:10<rob_debian>GRUB_DEFAULT=0
01:10<rob_debian> here
01:11<rob_debian>GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
01:11<jm_>either try «grub-reboot 2» or check /boot/grub/grub.cfg and count the entries starting with 0
01:11<rob_debian>ok jm_
01:11<jm_>hmm maybe that won't work for submenus, not sure on that one
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01:16<rob_debian>well, I forgot about 'advanced options', so, just choose 4.14 and no need to remove 4.15 ?
01:17<rob_debian>'advanced options' in grub menu
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01:18<rob_debian>please, jm_, 'grub-reboot 2' refers to the 2nd option for kernel linux here ? in my case, 4.14, since It's booting 4.15 ?
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01:21<jm_>rob_debian: I am not sure if it works for submenus, it worked OK in old days when there was no advanced submenu
01:21<rob_debian>well, I'll use advanced options in grub and select 4.14. thanks for great support and all information provided, somiaj, mnuhmnuh, judd (forgot to answer you, judd, really sorry for that !), coruja, jm_ !
01:22<rob_debian>fine, jm_ I'll see here what's going to happen after new reboot using grub menu, thanks a lot for help and assistance ! Debian Warriors were, are and will always be the Best !!!
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01:23<rob_debian>Reaaly thank you very much !!:)
01:23<jm_>rob_debian: btw, judd is also a bot
01:23<rob_debian>oh, thanks for great bot too !
01:23<rob_debian>lol
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01:23<rob_debian>See you !
01:23<jm_>see you
01:24<rob_debian>nice to see you again, jm_ ! always proud be helped by you and other Debian Warriors here !
01:24<rob_debian>Bye all !
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02:30<Eljotto>Hello
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02:32<Eljotto>I'm having trouble with booting/loading times on my system. It takes moderately long time until login screen, then it takes ridiculously long time to actually log in. I had other debian (32bit) on this PC before and it loaded considerably faster
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02:33<Eljotto>How can I check whats taking so long and what can I do to make it faster? I'm running 64bit system now, and the system is installed on different HDD (it could be slower than the one I had before)
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02:40<jm_>Eljotto: are you using systemd?
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02:45<Eljotto>jm_, yes
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02:47<jm_>Eljotto: start with systemd-analyze critical-chain
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02:49<Eljotto>http://paste.debian.net/1013718/
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02:53<Eljotto>jm_, 22s doesn't sound too bad (considering it is not SSD system), but still not too great. Then again, I guess this isn't considering the time after login screen, when the screen goes black for good 15-20 seconds
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02:56<jm_>Eljotto: yeah it'also missing some details, maybe try 'systemd-analyze blame' and 'systemd-analyze plot > out.svg'
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02:58<Eljotto>blame http://paste.debian.net/1013719/
02:58<jm_>i.e. for me I can see in the svg file that the dev-disk-by.*swap starts at about 2.5s
02:58<jm_>so for you it looks like the most time is spent in 10.664s NetworkManager-wait-online.service and dev-sdb1.device
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03:00<jm_>dev-sdb1.device is probably your /?
03:02<Eljotto>https://ufile.io/wx8hx
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03:03<Eljotto>$ mount | grep "/sd"
03:03<Eljotto> /dev/sdb1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
03:03<jm_>yeah so it is
03:05<jm_>wow that's odd, for me systemd starts at 2.2s, for you at 6.2s, so for that part you need to look at kernel messages
03:05<jm_>alternatively, try the bpo kernel
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03:26<stevenm_>Lo, is there a command for installing a packages dependencies *only*
03:27<stevenm_>i know there is for build dependencies, but I mean actual dependencies ... like what you'd find with apt-cache depends <package-name>
03:29<jm_>heh I was looking for that lately, but haven't found it - to be fair, I did not spend too much time looking so I ended up writing a quick&dirty perl script
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07:19<Huita>Yo dawgs! I'm a noob pretty much, so this question might be stupid, but bear with me please.
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07:20<Huita>I've installed postgresql9.6 on my debian8.5, everything went smoothly, sort of. So, i connect, try the SELECT version(); command to see if it's working (in psql).
07:21<Huita>It gives me version alright, but i can't get back to psql for some reason. There's just END thing on the bottom, and hitting End merely scrolls down
07:21<Huita>i mashed buttons left and right and got back to psql, but, well... how should i do it properly?
07:21<Huita>what's the button?
07:24<duclicsic>q ?
07:24<jamesmc>q?
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07:25<jamesmc>Yes, q. It's using less to display the query results.
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07:26<Huita>Oh thanks. That should've been obvious i guess... oh well
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07:26<jamesmc>:)
07:26<jm_>that's consistent with "There's just END thing on the bottom" :)
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09:04<JohnnyT>Hellow nerdies :)
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09:06<JohnnyT>That much
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10:00<ilyes>yo
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10:03<furrymcgee>Hello, my custom deb package has dependency problems but apt install -f wants to remove it
10:04<furrymcgee>how do i install the dependencies?
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10:07<petn-randall>!bat
10:07<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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10:08<petn-randall>furrymcgee: Can you provide *all* of the above in a single paste on https://paste.debian.net?
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10:10<furrymcgee>the packageis gitlab
10:11<furrymcgee>dpkg --list returns iU gitlab 9.5.4+dfsg-7.1
10:11<dpkg>furrymcgee: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
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10:12<furrymcgee>dpkg --configure returns "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
10:12<dpkg>furrymcgee: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
10:12<furrymcgee>?
10:12<blast007>that's a bot
10:13<furrymcgee>then i try apt install -f
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10:13<blast007>!pastebin
10:13<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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10:16<leta>Hi there!
10:17<leta>My Windows NTFS partition is mounted as read-only.
10:17<leta>Fast boot is disabled in Windows and ntfs-3g is installed.
10:17<leta>I am using Debian 9.
10:17<petn-randall>furrymcgee: Read my message again please.
10:18<leta>Any ideas?
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10:19<Blacker47>leta, it lacks a problem...
10:20<capn>leta: I have a similar issue if I used WIndows, shut down, then boot into Debian on poweron.
10:20*petn-randall still doesn't see the issue.
10:20<leta>Ok, here it is. I would like to write on that Windows partition.
10:20<capn>I have to reboot from windows to debian, hten shut down
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10:20<petn-randall>leta: Have you tried to mount it rw?
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10:25<leta>No. I was using Gnome Disks to make a partition automount.
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10:25<leta>Usually it was fine this way...
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10:26<leta>For example, my Data partition, which is NTFS as well, mount all OK. Only the Windows partition makes problems...
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10:27<petn-randall>leta: What does 'mount' show you about that mount point?
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10:35<adhawkins>Hi all. It seems I have a package from backports installed that is blocking the installation of another package.
10:35<adhawkins>How do I replace the backports one with the 'real' one?
10:36<petn-randall>!bat
10:36<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
10:36<adhawkins>If I just try to install python3-pip, I get: http://paste.debian.net/1013771/
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10:36<petn-randall>adhawkins: Can you provide *all* of the above in a single paste on https://paste.debian.net?
10:37<adhawkins>petn-randall: 1 sec.
10:37<leta>Ok, it turns out Windows is hibernating...
10:37<leta>How the hell...
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10:37<BCMM>leta: windows 10 basically always hibernates when you tell it to shut down, by default
10:37<BCMM>leta: "shut down" just means "close all running programs, then hibernate"
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10:38<BCMM>this is because windows is kinda slow at cold booting
10:38<BCMM>i think you need to disable "fast startup" or something
10:38<capn>Like I said, I have to reboot from windown into debian if I wnat to write to my ntfs mounts.
10:38<BCMM>(in windows, not in eufi firmware)
10:38<BCMM>yeah, that's because reboot is explicitly a "real" shutdown and boot up
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10:38<adhawkins>petn-randall: Here you go: http://paste.debian.net/1013796/
10:39<capn>Took me a while to figure that one out
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10:39<adhawkins>I think this is the issue. python3-pkg-resources seems to be from backports: http://paste.debian.net/1013797/
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10:41<adhawkins>petn-randall: How can I replace that installed package with the 'real' one? I didn't (knowingly!) deliberately install it.
10:42<leta>But I have disabled the fast boot. How does it still hibernate?
10:42<leta>Also
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10:42<leta>When I reboot Debian, there is no way to get into Windows.
10:42<leta>It just goes straight into Debian again...
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10:46<petn-randall>adhawkins: You can simply remove it and install it again, apt defaults to the main repos (non-backports).
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10:46<adhawkins>Ok. Is 'apt-get install python3-pkg-resources/jessie' safe?
10:46<adhawkins>The info given before the prompt suggests it's doing the correct thing...
10:46<adhawkins>Removing it is going to remove another package I have installed...
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10:46<adhawkins>Ah, which also came from backports. I wonder if that's how it got in?
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10:46<leta>Let me check everything again and I will report back...
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10:47<Blacker47>adhawkins, just to be sure: have had run "apt update"?
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10:47<adhawkins>Blacker47: Yes
10:47<capn>BCMM: disabling fast boot seemed to fix the issue
10:47<capn>for me aat least
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10:51<Blacker47>adhawkins, i not used to use apt (or even apt-get, because mostly it is aptitude). i'm not sure how apt handle some dependencies. e.g. apt-get has parameters like --with-new-pkgs that may be needed it your case.
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10:52<adhawkins>Got it sorted now. Seems I installed a package from backports, which also pulled in python3-pkg-resources, which was blocking the installation of python3-pip
10:52<adhawkins>Installing now, thanks all for the assistance.
10:53<leta>BCMM: I'm back. I booted into Windows to verify that fast boot and hibernation are disabled. They were. I restarted the PC (so no shut down, but restart) and I still can't write on Windows partition.
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10:54<leta>BCMM: This time mount doesn't tell me that the Windows is hibernated however. It only says that the mount is denied as the volume is already exclusively opened...
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10:55<BCMM>leta: huh. i've got no idea what that means, to be honest
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10:56<leta>BCMM: I guess it means that the volume is already mounted.
10:56<leta>BCMM: And it is, indeed: /dev/nvme0n1p4 on /mnt/BEF85526F854DDE9 type fuseblk (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
10:56<leta>However, only as RO
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10:58<leta>Another thing: When I restart Debian, it skips GRUB on boot. Why is that? If I want to change to Windows, I have to turn the PC off and start it again...
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10:58<BCMM>leta: well, why is it mounted? it's not just misconfigured in fstab is it?
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10:59<Sandy>My ssh on Jessie can't be started. The error is "ConditionPathExist=!/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run was not met". Any thoughts on this? Thanks
10:59<leta>No, I set it to automount on startup so I could share Thunderbird config between systems...
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11:00<BCMM>Sandy: does the file /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run exist?
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11:03<Sandy>BCMM, the file /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run exists on the system.
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11:04<BCMM>Sandy: any idea why? did you create it?
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11:04<BCMM>Sandy: and if you didn't create it, is it owned by any package? (dpkg -S /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run)
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11:05<BCMM>Sandy: lastly, are you using inetd?
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11:08<Blacker47>is sshd_not_to_be_run maybe created by some ssh key blacklist checks?...
11:09<jhutchins_wk>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=149850
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11:17<Sandy>BCMM, i removed etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run, then I got different errors when attempt to start it
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11:18<BCMM>Sandy: ok, but what about the questions i asked?
11:18<Sandy>it says "ExectStart=/usr/sbin/sshd -D $SSHD_OPTS(code=exited, status=255)
11:19<Sandy>BCMM, I am not using inetd
11:19<Sandy>and I didn't create /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run
11:20<Sandy>BCMM, I removed /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run
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12:07<jhutchins_wk>FatPhil_: It's failing to start - check the error log.
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12:15<Sandy>I try to unintsall/reinstall ssh. But during uninstall ssh it also tries to remove lc-tomcat which fails because user tomcat is currently used by multiple other processes? why uninstall of ssh also tries to remove lc-tomcat?
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12:18<somiaj>what version of debian are you running Sandy? I do not see the package lc-tomact in debian stable.
12:18<somiaj>I actually don't see that package anywhere in debian.
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12:25<annadane>i would say also:
12:25<annadane>!bat
12:25<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
12:25<annadane>Sandy, ^
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12:27<Sandy>somiaj, jessie
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12:27<somiaj>I still do not see the package lc-tomcat in jessie? Where did you get this package?
12:27<Sandy>somiaj, after upgrade from wheezy to Jessie ssh is no longer working.
12:27<Sandy>So I want to uninstall it, then reintsall
12:28<somiaj>okay, but it sounds like you had some third party software on your system, and debian doesn't know what sort of requirements it would need.
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12:28<somiaj>If this package lc-tomcat (Whatever it is) depends on ssh, it will have to be uninstalled during this process.
12:28<somiaj>there is also the --reinstall option you can reinstall ssh without removing it.
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12:28<somiaj>but to me it sounds like you had some third party software during the upgrade, which can cause unexpected problems.
12:29<Sandy>somiaj, excellent. I want to uninstall ssh without removing lc-tomcat
12:29<somiaj>I think you have other issues going on, and it might be linked to this lc-tomcat package which I have no clue where you got it from.
12:30<Sandy>somiaj, lc-tomcat was installed before upgrade. so during upgrade we didn't upgrade lc-tomcat. but not sure why after upgrade ssh is no longer working
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12:31<somiaj>again, due to what ever dependencies this lc-tomcat has, you can't just do that in an upgrade.
12:31<somiaj>if the package only works for wheezy depends but you upgraded to jessie, you'll have problems, since the package was nto designed to run on jessie.
12:32<somiaj>I would atlk to whoever created this package about how to install it best in jessie and what things should be considered.
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12:33<Sandy>somiaj, thanks for the advices.
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13:18<Sandy>This link is to install rsyslog on wheezy. But I am looking for one for jessie. any idea? http://www.rsyslog.com/debian-repository/
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13:19<annadane>,v rsyslog
13:19<judd>Package: rsyslog on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.8.11-3+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.8.11-3+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 7.6.3-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 8.4.2-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 8.23.0-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 8.24.0-1; stretch-backports: 8.32.0-1~bpo9+1; buster: 8.32.0-1; sid: 8.33.1-1
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13:19<annadane>it's in jessie; just apt install it?
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13:54<Sandy>How to install rsyslog on Jessie? it only has package on Wheezy. http://debian.adiscon.com/v8-stable/
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13:55<annadane>Sandy, are you on wheezy or jessie currently?
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13:56<Sandy>jessie, annadane
13:57<annadane>Sandy, then just apt install rsyslog - it's in jessie
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14:01<furrymcgee>my gitlab package has broken dependencies and is removed by apt install --fix-broken http://paste.debian.net/1013835
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14:01<retrospectacus>furrymcgee: go to #debian-next for testing/sid support plz
14:02<furrymcgee>ok thanks
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14:04<Sandy>annadane, perfect
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14:05<annadane>Sandy, i would search on package.debian.org in future or apt search <package>
14:05<annadane>packages.debian.org, rather
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14:05<annadane>(apt search will use the packages available according to your current sources list)
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14:09<Sandy>annadane, great information and good to know it.
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14:52<Chelsea>Hi all, does anyone know of a way to make the cursor in a terminal fade-in and fade-out instead of blink?
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14:57<sdk>Chelsea: every terminal app are different. AFAIK I don't think there's a terminal that have that feature.
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14:59<jhutchins_wk>Chelsea: I'm sure you could write something that would do that.
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15:00<Chelsea>jhutchins_wk, i think you're laying to much confidence in my c-skills.
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15:01<jhutchins_wk>That's how it happens though.
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15:02<dark>hi
15:03<Chelsea>jhutchins_wk, right after the "hello world" i bet :) I think i'll stick with a feature request for now.
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15:04<Chelsea>just want to make sure it's not implemented somewhere and haven't asked around.
15:06<blast007>just find an old monochrome CRT and it'll have that effect built-in :)
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15:08<Chelsea>blast007, thanks for suggesting Cool Retro term!
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15:09<blast007>oh wow, that's actually a thing. that looks pretty sweet.
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15:13<Chelsea>quite a fun terminal, but still no cursor fade unfortunately.
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15:21<deb8>hello ,
15:21<deb8>i wanted to ask for help for Debian with the XFCE desktop.
15:22<deb8>anybody who knows how to increase the icons in XFCE in Debian 9 ?
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15:23<annadane>deb8, which icons? desktop, panel, file manager?
15:23<deb8>in the file manager annadane
15:23<deb8>the directory icons i mean.
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15:26<annadane>you may want to ask #xfce on freenode, they could know better
15:26<petn-randall>deb8: The icon *size*? Or what do you want to increase?
15:26<deb8>the icon size petn-randall
15:27<petn-randall>deb8: in the file manager: -> View -> Zoom In.
15:27<deb8>oh ok
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15:28<deb8>1 second please i going to try that.
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15:28<annadane>yeah, that was what i found in sid, i was also going to hypothesize that there's something in the settings manager for it
15:29<deb8>yes,
15:29<annadane>i didn't want to give a cop-out answer especially if you only wanted directory icons enlarged
15:29<deb8>it is working :)
15:29<deb8>thanks alot :)
15:29<annadane>but sure, that will do it
15:29<petn-randall>deb8: It's a pleasure to help! You're welcome.
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15:29<deb8>thanks.
15:30<deb8>it will still the same after i reboot my laptop petn-randall ?
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15:31<petn-randall>deb8: It should be persistent, yes.
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15:31<deb8>ok.
15:31<deb8>thanks alot :)
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15:37<deb8>i going to reboot to see if it is persistent.
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15:44<FatPhil_>jhutchins_wk: tried again (at 22:41), and mysql's logs are "-rw-r----- 1 mysql adm 0 Mar 8 22:41 mysql.log"
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15:57<deb9>Yes , after rebooting my laptop it is still the same.
15:57<petn-randall>yay \o/
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15:58*petn-randall increments de9 even further.
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15:58<deb9>i installed Debian 9 yesterday with the XFCE after a long time with Kali Linux as main operating system.
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15:59<petn-randall>Kali isn't a good main OS IMHO, it's better to use it as a VM.
15:59<deb9>i'd just needed a break to relax after all the experiments with the tools in Kali.
15:59<deb9>well if you configure Kali very good as main OS , then it's good.
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15:59<deb9>i know a trick how to transform Debian into Kali , that is crazy man.
15:59<deb9>but indeed ,
16:00<deb9>virtualbox installed into Debian,
16:00<deb9>and then Kali into virtualbox , that is better indeed.
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16:00<annadane>virtualbox is only available in stable via backports AFAIK
16:00<deb9>i download virtualbox from the official website annadane
16:00<deb9>as .deb file.
16:01<deb9>and then install it.
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16:01<deb9>just for a few months i need Debian to take a break :)
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16:02<deb9>mostly i pick Debian with the KDE desktop if i destroy Kali from my laptop,
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16:02<deb9>but this time i did the XFCE desktop with Debian.
16:05<deb9>this is how i install virtualbox annadane : https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
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16:05<annadane>yeah so it's generally not encouraged to install .deb files from the internet but i won't evangelize over it
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16:06<annadane>https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Some_safer_ways_to_install_software_not_available_in_Debian_Stable
16:06<deb9>after the dpkg -i virtualbox-5.2_5.2.8-121009~Debian~stretch_amd64.deb you just need to install the Linux headers to your Debian.
16:07*annadane shrugs
16:07<annadane>not what i would do, but whatever
16:08<deb9>VMware workstation player is good too as VM.
16:09<deb9>i have read that Kali and Debian are in the Windows 10 APP store now.
16:09<deb9>my god....... lol
16:10<petn-randall>specificalliy, WSL.
16:10<annadane>this is all getting a bit off topic for #debian, though; there's always #debian-offtopic
16:11<annadane>though i guess no one's talking :P
16:11<annadane>some people do like silence unless there's support though
16:11<deb9>yeah that is why i was talking about it here ,
16:11<deb9>because nobody was talking ;)
16:13<deb9>i am glad my laptop is CLEAN now after all that Kali and Parrot and BlackArch installations.
16:13<deb9>learned alot things and have seen alot things in all that pentesting distro's ,
16:13<deb9>but time to watch movies now :)
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16:14<deb9>for 3 years mostly pentest distro's as main OS is alot work and alot to learn.
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16:14<deb9>and it takes alot energy.
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16:35<leta>Hi!
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16:36<leta>I have some problems with green horizontal lines flickering on the screen as I move the mouse. Debian 9, GPU is GTX 970 with the driver version 375.82 installed through the repo.
16:37<leta>I have a dual boot system and this happens only under Debian.
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16:38<leta>However, I am suspicious of the GPU. Couple of times the display turned itself off and on again, but I thought this was bad cable connection or something...
16:40<leta>Here is a short example: https://youtu.be/2CT2FRvtVI4
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17:36<somiaj>what did you configure in ssh_config? And which user are you trying to login (and are you sure you didn't mean sshd_config
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17:46<rob_debian>For all that You do here, for the amazing intellectual energy of this Illuminated Community that is the Debian Project, I dedicate this song to each of You, and to feel it in Your personal lives, with the people You Love, with Your families, Your wives, Your girlfriends, with whom You love.
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17:46<rob_debian>You are Debian Warriors !!! You are among the Best People in this World !!! May God always Bless all of you !!!
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17:47<rob_debian>I love each of You here, and I always want the best for each one of You !!!
17:47<rob_debian>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HpA7UZvWdc
17:47<rob_debian>Really Love you All here !!!
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---Logclosed Thu Mar 08 18:59:47 2018
---Logopened Thu Mar 08 18:59:53 2018
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19:16<sigimac>when running apt-get update I get this message: N: Skipping acquire of cinfigured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'http://.....' doesn't support architecture 'i386'
19:16<sigimac>how do I get rid of that?
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21:39<rocio>hola
21:40<annadane>!es
21:40<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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21:44<rocio>sorry i speak english and spanish
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22:23<debian99>Hello,
22:23<debian99>i need help.
22:23<debian99>anybody who knows how to increase the screen size in virtualbox in Debian 9 ?
22:24<debian99>i need screen resolution 1366x768
22:24<debian99>but with every guest OS i put into my virtualbox i cannot change the screen resolution to 1366x768
22:25<debian99>anybody who knows what is the problem i have with my virtualbox in my Debian 9.3.0 Stretch ?
22:27<debian99>dpkg : tell screen resolution virtualbox
22:28<somiaj>debian99: I am assuming debian is a guest, install the guest tools
22:28<somiaj>,v virtualbox-guest-dkms
22:28<judd>Package: virtualbox-guest-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports/contrib: 5.1.8-dfsg-6~bpo8+2; stretch-backports/contrib: 5.1.30-dfsg-1~bpo9+1; buster/contrib: 5.2.8-dfsg-2; sid/contrib:
22:28<judd>5.2.8-dfsg-2
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22:28<somiaj>that package along with the linux-headers for the kernel should build the guest module for debian, allowing some additional features like better graphics.
22:28<debian99>no , my main OS is Debian somiaj
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22:29<debian99>i want Kali Linux in my virtualbox.
22:29<somiaj>have you tried xrandr or other options to change the resolution? I'm unsure what would be limiting the resultion for other guests.
22:29<somiaj>it could be you need the guest module installed on the kali guest
22:29<debian99>i tried every ISO from the official website but i am unable to change the screen resolution to 1366x768 wich i need.
22:30<debian99>i tried xrandr but it don't work
22:31<debian99>i tried Linux Mint and Ubuntu in my virtualbox , and the same problem as with Kali.
22:31<debian99>pretty weird.
22:31<somiaj>For a kali guest I'm unsure what is needed, you may want to ask kali support how to install the virtualbox guest module
22:31<somiaj>I don't know why the host would limit this, you could check the xorg log to see what video driver is being used, and you could manually create modelines.
22:32<debian99>pff
22:32<somiaj>ubuntu seems to give the same answer in a quick google search, so go figure out how to install the guest addons for the guest you are choosing to use.
22:32<debian99>i install Kali as main OS on my other laptop :)
22:32<debian99>problem solved then ;)
22:32<somiaj>that's fine, but this is debian support.
22:32<debian99>i know.
22:33<somiaj>and the issue seems to be with your guests and installing the vbox guest module.
22:33<awal1>debian99, this channel is for debian only, not kali or others. but okay, installing virtualbox-guest-additions-iso in kaly , yiur guest, should solve your goal
22:33<debian99>oh ok.
22:33<somiaj>I bet kali, like debian and ubuntu provides the module as a dkms package, the additions-iso is not what debian99 would need awal1 .
22:34<debian99>i keep Debian on this laptop i use now , and i install Kali on my second laptop :)
22:34<debian99>better idea :)
22:34<awal1>virtualbox-guest-x11 should solve your issue but not sure why not, solved it here with additions-iso
22:35<debian99>what is the best way to install virtualbox in Debian ?
22:35<debian99>i downloaded the .deb file from the virtualbox website.
22:35<awal1>somiaj, you right but curiously for me with guest-x11 i dont get full screen mode in kali
22:35<awal1>installing -additions-iso solved that
22:36<somiaj>you shoudln't need to install the iso, but the dkms package that has the module.
22:36<debian99>how to install -additions-iso awal1 ?
22:36<somiaj>debian99: the best way to install virtualbox is to get it from stretch-backports contrib repo, it is prepackaged for debian there.
22:37<debian99>how i do that somiaj ?
22:37<somiaj>!stretch-backports
22:37<dpkg>Some packages intended for Buster (Debian 10) but recompiled for use with Stretch (Debian 9) can be found in the stretch-backports repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . Ask me about <bdo>, <backports>.
22:37<somiaj>!contrib
22:37<somiaj>!contrib
22:37<dpkg>[contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ [stretch|buster|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then «aptitude update». Also ask me about <non-free>, <contrib list>.
22:38<debian99>ha , mostly i run Kali as main OS , but now i want Debian as main OS , and Kali in virtualbox , that's why i don't know why this all happens.
22:38<debian99>thanks somiaj
22:39<awal1>somiaj, as i said i installed -guest-x11 and -guest-dkms in debian host, but fullscreen for kali still not gotten, after installing -addistions-iso in kali, fullscreen works for kali
22:40<somiaj>isntalling guest-dkms won't do much in the host, it needs to be installed in the guest.
22:40<awal1>nvm, somiaj, i got confused
22:41<debian99>i am tired , thanks for the advice guys.
22:41<debian99>bye :)
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22:41<awal1>i meant -x11 in host not helping for kali. -additions-iso in guest which pulled -guest-dkms solved the problem
22:42<somiaj>sure it pulled in the right package, but the additions-iso is a package for the host, not guest.
22:42<awal1>right
22:42<awal1>in kali website it says install -guest-x11 in kali guest
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22:51<awal1>somiaj, i just got confused, i was asleep here, sorry. what i wanted to see is that one have to install virtualbox-guest-x11 in guest for get fullscreen and a few stuff more for the guest, exactly what you was telling to debian99. kali suggests that in it's website, but curiously it doesn't help without -guest-dkms
22:51<awal1>sorry for confunding
22:51<awal1>to say
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