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00:00-!-rob_debian [~r4fkramer@170.83.39.97] has joined #debian
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00:00<rob_debian>Hi all, please, I didn't understand why this situation is happening currently in my debian stretch: https://paste.debian.net/1015028/
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00:20<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: man 8 apt-secure
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00:22<rob_debian>I was there, mnuhmnuh, there's a lot of information over there, can't read the whole man page about apt-secure now
00:24<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: have you looked for apt-secure config morsals on your system? /etc/default? dunno.
00:24<rob_debian>no mnuhmnuh, I'll check it now
00:25<rob_debian>bye the way, nice to see you here again, always happy to have your attention, mnuhmnuh !:)
00:26<mnuhmnuh>btw, that's a goofy looking name for a debian repo. mine's http://deb.debian.org/debian/
00:26<rob_debian>goofy ?
00:27<mnuhmnuh>https://pkg.tox.chat/debian ?!?
00:28<rob_debian>yeah, mnuhmnuh, I didn't understand why this line appears and why it's blocking my debian for updating the system as a whole
00:30<rob_debian>it's saying here it doesn't no longer have a release file (utox, I suppose). so, the best way is purging this package from my debian ?
00:32<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: at least comment (#) it out in your /etc/apt/sources.list, and apt update, try again.
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00:32<mnuhmnuh>apt remove utox # ?
00:33<mnuhmnuh>apt, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, ...
00:34<rob_debian>mnuhmnuh, please, which line should I comment in my /etc/apt/sources.list ? https://paste.debian.net/1015030/
00:35<rob_debian>I basically use apt-get and aptitude, in command line
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00:37<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: don't know if i'd touch it at all; 13 and/or 15 maybe?!? have you run update?
00:37<Barto>PRIVMSG
00:38<rob_debian>yes, but the same probleme persists here
00:39<Barto>CMD#:
00:39<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: i run testing/buster here, and see no utox. what does aptitude search utox say?
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00:40<rob_debian>let me see it here
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00:41<rob_debian>here, mnuhmnuh, please: https://paste.debian.net/1015032/
00:41<mnuhmnuh>apt show utox
00:42<rob_debian>https://paste.debian.net/1015033/
00:42<mnuhmnuh>weird we got here whaen we started out blaming apt-secure. :-P
00:43<mnuhmnuh>apt-secure's doin' its job. :-)
00:45<rob_debian>if I remove it, mnuhmnuh... should it be fixed ? I'm not using this application currently
00:45<rob_debian>use ekiga instead
00:45<mnuhmnuh>apt remove utox
00:45<rob_debian>fine !
00:45<mnuhmnuh>apt remove utox --purge or whatever?
00:45<rob_debian>ok, so let me purge it
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00:47<mnuhmnuh>i never bother w --purge; not worried about benign unused documentation lying around, which is all they'll be.
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00:48<rob_debian>strange, the problem persists...
00:48<mnuhmnuh>apt update && apt upgrade ?
00:49<rob_debian>yes
00:49<rob_debian>https://paste.debian.net/1015034/
00:50<rob_debian>I always use this combination: root@debian:~# apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get upgrade
00:50<mnuhmnuh>this shouldn't be happening in stable. i'd try commenting out those 13 & 15 lines. dunno why they'd be in the way, what's tox?!? i dunno.
00:51<rob_debian>ok, mnuhmnuh, let me try it now
00:52<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: what other files do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d (or whatever)?
00:53<rob_debian>I've commented lines 13 & 15, but no result
00:53<rob_debian>let me see in this other file, I suspect the issue is over there, mnuhmnuh
00:53<rob_debian> /etc/apt/sources.list.d
00:55<rob_debian>no line, no description... simply empty
00:56<mnuhmnuh>not sure but suspect "... dist-upgrade && apt-get upgrade" is redundant.
00:56<mnuhmnuh>latter should be harmless no-op.
00:58<mnuhmnuh>i only use dist-upgrade (i think) if i see too many pkgs held back.
00:59<rob_debian>let me try it now
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01:00<rob_debian>I'll try it latter, mnuhmnuh, have to go now. thanks for your attention and support !:)
01:00<rob_debian>see you, we can try it again afterwards !
01:00<rob_debian>bye !
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01:00<Barto>:@hi
01:00<Desatahhshd>Hello!!
01:01<rob_debian>hi Desatannhshd !
01:01<rob_debian>bye mnuhmnuh, nice to see you again !
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01:02<rob_debian>thanks for help and assistance !:)
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01:05<mnuhmnuh>aliases i use in my root command line: http://paste.debian.net/1015035/ # /root/.bash_aliases
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01:09<mnuhmnuh>"tox": virtualenv-based automation of test activities
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02:05<qirex>Hi
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02:09<qirex>I simply wanted to install an emulator for android so i find package with name android-sdk and after installation - Grandle program did appear...
02:09<grawity>well, gradle is not an android emulator
02:10<qirex>Well what i did wrong then?
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02:11<mnuhmnuh>sdk == software dev. kit
02:12<qirex>do you know how to simply install this emulator?
02:13<qirex>I dont know anything about developing software :D
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02:30<tballantyne>hi
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02:31<tballantyne>getting Hash Sum mismatch when attempting apt-get install
02:31<tballantyne>this is off http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main i386
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02:32<tballantyne>to repro - sudo apt-get install libxext-dev:i386 libxrandr-dev:i386 libxss-dev:i386
02:33<tballantyne>I get - E: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libx/libxss/libxss-dev_1.2.2-1_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch
02:33<tballantyne>let me know if anyone else is seeing the same
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02:37<jm_>is your main arch amd64 then?
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02:38<tballantyne>correct. 64bit system attempting to install 32bit libs
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02:43<jm_>if I would have to guess, I would say one of the mirrors is not in sync, so between running apt update and install, you get different content - ftp.us is a pool of mirrors AFAIK
02:49<grawity>doesn't make much sense... different content would have a different package version, wouldn't it?
02:50<jm_>hmm good point
02:51<jm_>last time someone had this problem enabling debug for apt acquire showed some details, so maybe try that
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03:36<supaman>does virsh not see virtual machienes created with virt-manager? I have used virt-manager to create a machine and then when I open up virsh and issue list --all it sees nothing
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03:43<Anarka>supaman: even if you run with sudo ?
03:44<supaman>Anarka: ah, didn't think of that :-)
03:44<Anarka>if it shows with sudo then you just need to define LIBVIRT_DEFAULT_URI=qemu:///system so that you user, if in the right group, can use virsh
03:44<supaman>that worked, thanks :-)
03:44<Anarka>i just have export LIBVIRT_DEFAULT_URI=qemu:///system in my .bashrc
03:45<Anarka>then it should work for your user without sudo
03:45<supaman>excellent, thanks
03:45<jm_>or use -c qemu:///system AFAIR
03:45<Anarka>also :)
03:48<supaman>the system in that command is the hostname of my host?
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03:50<jm_>no it's literally system
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03:52<supaman>ah, ok
03:53<supaman>and the user needs to be in libvirt group?
03:53<supaman>libvirtd
03:54<supaman>nope, no such group
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03:54<supaman>ah well, I will just use sudo :-)
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03:56<jm_>https://wiki.debian.org/KVM says libvirt and libvirt-qemu
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04:02<supaman>working, thanks :-)
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05:15<superbrainsphex>good morning ! is someone here that knows his ways around in jack having problem with ladency i think expert advice would be really helpfull thank in upfrond
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05:16<jm_>I assume you mean the jackd package, so maybe also try #jack on irc.freenode.net.
05:16<superbrainsphex>thx
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05:24<cacatoes>problem with latency is a bit vague, what latency you try to achieve, with which kind of soundcard, do you have xruns... if all this is already alright for you then yes better ask on #jack
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06:18<qirex>Hey
06:19<qirex>The terminal wants some arguments whats this?
06:19<qirex>I mean more exactly pretty_name is complaining for
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06:49<petn-randall>!ask
06:49<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
06:49<petn-randall>!context
06:49<dpkg>Try to give enough context! For example, let us know which command/program you are running, what you expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as possible. If your command produced output, share the complete command (with all parameters!) and its output on https://paste.debian.net.
06:49<petn-randall>qirex: Can you describe your problem in detail? The above factoids might help.
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06:53<qirex>I installed a program called shashlink which is suppose to be able to run games for android for example
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06:54<qirex>So i did installed the game as well and after i run it its says error and it is require argument pretty_name
06:54<qirex>whatever is that mean
06:54<towo^work>wrong channel i would say
06:55<towo^work>that's not a debian problem
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06:56<towo^work>and btw, no commit since 2 years doesn't look like a vital project
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06:57<qirex>Do you have any idea how can i run those applications then?
06:57<towo^work>buy a android device?
06:58<towo^work>use an android emulator which is active developed?
06:58<towo^work>but again, not a problem of debian, which that channel is for
07:00<qirex>Well if i know which is debian problem i would not be here
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07:32<Random>Hi, I know that there is a page somewhere on debian.org which lists all the packages which are contained on the different .iso flavors. But I can't find it anymore, help pls.
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07:32<Random>I want to know which packages are included when using the netinst_x64
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07:35<Anarka>for ex http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/9.4.0/amd64/list-cd/
07:36<Random>Thank you!
07:36<jm_>!cd contents
07:36<dpkg>To find out which CD or DVD image contains a particular package or source file, use the search engine at http://cdimage-search.debian.org/ . To see what a specific image contains, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ (e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-cd/).
07:36<Anarka>didnt knew about but... https://cdimage-search.debian.org/
07:36<Anarka>ohhh dpkg :)
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07:36<spine>maybe https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ is what you're looking for
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07:37<spine>it's the closest thing I can find
07:40<ratisbona>is there a listing of rejected software/packages available with the reasons why the respective software was rejected? If I'm in the wrong chat, I apologize. While I'm using a Debian based OS, I'm totally new to the Debian world.
07:41<grawity>probably not; if you have a specific program in mind, I'd grep the mailing lists for "ITP" (intent-to-package) threads
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07:43<ratisbona>thanks grawity. Reason for my question is that I want to find out why certain packages aren't included in the repos. License issues, badly coded software, or simply outdated with no maintainer...
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07:45<bremner>ratisbona: the default is for software to be not included, unless someone packages it.
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07:52<GyrosGeier>there is a list of rejected software IIRC
07:52<GyrosGeier>but only for incompatible licenses
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07:55<GyrosGeier>other than that, https://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/ and https://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html are probably the most interesting pages
07:56<GyrosGeier>Random, netinst contains almost nothing, just the installer
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07:56<GyrosGeier>so it has the installer .udeb files, but no .deb packages
07:56<BEAB8> !mirthen patrick rothfuss - kingkiller chronicle 02 - the wise man's fear (epub).epub
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07:57<Random>@GyrisGeier thats enough to me, just want the package list of a minimal installation :)
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08:05<GyrosGeier>Random, the minimal installation consists of all packages marked Essential: yes and their dependencies
08:05<GyrosGeier>in addition, debootstrap installs an init system and a kernel
08:06<GyrosGeier>it used to be based on Priority: required
08:06<GyrosGeier>not sure if that is still the case
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08:07<BanHammor>isn't essential deprecated now? I don't see it in any packages post-Jessie
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08:08<bremner>no, essential is not deprecated
08:08<bremner>obscure packages like "bash" are still essential.
08:08<GyrosGeier>only very few packages are Essential
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08:08<GyrosGeier>ah
08:09<GyrosGeier>looking at the source, it seems debootstrap installs Section: base and Priority: required by default
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08:11<BanHammor>bremner, bash is "required" for me
08:11<bremner>and?
08:11<bremner>check again.
08:12<bremner>essential is not a priority
08:12<BanHammor>ah i see
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11:24<anonimopc>hey
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11:57<istrive>when I issue this command: mft="*.m4a";fld="U2";find $fld -type f -iname $mft | while read f; do echo "$f [" `mediainfo --output="Audio;%BitRate/String%" "$f"` "]"; done
11:57<istrive>I get the following error:
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11:57<istrive>find: paths must precede expression: Gone For Good.m4a
11:58<istrive>Why the variable $fld is ignored?
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12:07<istrive>does bash script has any equivalent to iif from java (or vb)?
12:08<petn-randall>istrive: It's not being ignored, it's being interpolated.
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12:09<petn-randall>istrive: "*.m4a" turns into a list of files in your current dir that end in '.m4a'.
12:09<petn-randall>istrive: I think you want single quotes, in that case it does not get interpolated.
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12:10<istrive>line redirect="y"; ls -lsaRh iif(redirect=="y",> /tmp/lst.txt)
12:10<grawity>a) ls -lsaRh | if [[ $redirect == y ]]; then cat > /tmp/lst.txt; else cat; fi
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15:57<furrymcgee>How do you add tags to packages?
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16:00<somiaj>furrymcgee: the matainer would have to do this, I think a wishlist bug could be used to ask for a tag to be added
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16:01<furrymcgee>I cant find them in the deb files
16:02<magyar>hi, how can I add a new disk with new volume to a crypt system?
16:02<magyar>I have vg-root mounted on / and I would like to add a new disk "vg-home" to be mounted on /home
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16:05<somiaj>furrymcgee: they are probably part of the control field, not the package itself.
16:06<somiaj>furrymcgee: hmm, maybe I am mistaken, maybe the tags are provided by another database, one second.
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16:07<somiaj>furrymcgee: https://wiki.debian.org/Debtags/FAQ -- yea it appears I was mistaken, the debtags are part of another database, not the package itself.
16:07*mnuhmnuh debtags tagsearch sql
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16:09<mnuhmnuh>oohhh ... re: utox (?) "debtags tagsearch interface" # android iface emulator?
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16:15<furrymcgee>somiaj: thank you
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16:34<idk_user>wot is dis program
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16:35<annadane>this is a support channel for debian
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17:02<joelmaxuel>Hi, I have a best-practice question. I have a series of helper shell scripts up on github, and based on the features the scripts use, I recommend debian Stretch because of the bsdmainutils package (need >= 9.0.7, stretch has 9.0.12).
17:03<joelmaxuel>I recently backported the package for jessie from 9.0.7 source. Is it kosher to host the binary packages in a blob folder on the same github project?
17:03<joelmaxuel>(1 i386, 1 amd64)
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17:09<crash_bandicoot02>im new in linux and i want to install debian but i dont know how much disk space i have to put to the swap particion? how can i determined how much to swap?
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17:12<joelmaxuel>more dependendant on how much ram you have. 1.5x to 3x your ram makes sense.
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17:13<crash_bandicoot02>joelmaxuel, for example how much disk for swap if case i have 4gb of ram???
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17:14<joelmaxuel>i'd say around 6, unless you plan to add ram later. put the plan is to never to have to depend on swap because swapping is a terrible strategy - more for emergfency cases.
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17:15<joelmaxuel>can always see what the guided partitioner sugests too
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17:19<crash_bandicoot02>joelmaxuel, ok but what would happend if i put less or more disk space to swap partition can crash the system? or what?
17:22<joelmaxuel>too much makes for a waste of disk space. too little (less than ram) you lose the ability to hibernate. way too little or none at all and you risk crashes due to being out of memory (in spite of other safeguards in place to prevent that).
17:24<crash_bandicoot02>joelmaxuel, so swap partition is not exactly can be different size
17:24<crash_bandicoot02>?
17:24<jhutchins_wk>Too much swap also gets unmanageable.
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17:27<joelmaxuel>it can be a different size. but if set as a partition, you are pretty much setting it for the life of your install. so if your 4GB PC may get an upgrade to 8GB later on, and you care about hibernate, then you would want something like 9 or 10GB.
17:28<joelmaxuel>personally i don't care about hibernate and generally have enough ram for my workfload to have a small swap space. like 6GB swap for 16GB RAM.
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17:29<crash_bandicoot02>joelmaxuel, so the point is to set more than 1gb to swap in order to the system work good
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17:30<joelmaxuel>depends on what you'll use it for.
17:30<joelmaxuel>TL;DR, even if you want to manage the partitioning yourself, let guided partitioning take a stab first, note the swap size, and then back out for your manual setup.
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17:31<chinju>hello
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17:31<somiaj>joelmaxuel: github is more for hosting code, I'm unsure on github's policy for hosting binary .deb packages there for people to have access too. As far as debian is considerned, it is free software so you can host your own binary packages where you want, but you'll have to check github on their policies for this.
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17:32<joelmaxuel>thanks somiaj
17:32<somiaj>in my experience I have not seen binary packages hostsed on github, but I usually only go there for source.
17:32<somiaj>joelmaxuel: maybe if you host it on a github pages, then it is on your page, as opposed to hosting it in a github repo.
17:32<joelmaxuel>i have come across blobs before, like android libs, but i will check on their end.
17:33<crash_bandicoot02>joelmaxuel, but how can i notice how much space the guided partition give to swap and then do it myself??
17:34<joelmaxuel>cb02, from what i remember, the installer will confirm the sizes befor makign changes
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17:35<crash_bandicoot02>joelmaxuel, i dont think it work that way
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17:36<crash_bandicoot02>joelmaxuel, it wont let you know
17:36<joelmaxuel>hummm, are you in the installer right now?
17:37<joelmaxuel>IIRC, it will ask for destination device first, then special divisioons (like separate /home), then it will confirm calculation
17:38<joelmaxuel>but i use the text installer everytime
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17:47<crash_bandicoot02>lets see
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20:09<M4K1>Hello!!!
20:10<dvs>HI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:10<M4K1>How are you???
20:11<dvs>ok
20:12<M4K1>W0W very g00d
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20:13<M4K1>There are hacker in this chatroom?
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20:15<sney>lol
20:15<annadane>yes. not the kind you're thinking of.
20:16<annadane>also, how did you get here. it says "debian", clearly the victim of a kali irc client channel autojoin
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20:29<bRice>hey guys
20:29<bRice>anyone succesfully get a NP script working with clementine using stretch?
20:29<dvs>where?!?
20:29<bRice>one of the dbus entries went away on me
20:29<bRice>when i updated from jessie
20:30<bRice>the /player to be specific
20:32<bRice> qdbus org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.clementine
20:32<bRice>shows
20:32<bRice>. /
20:33<bRice> / /org /org/mpris /org/mpris/Mediaplayer2
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20:36<bRice>if anyone could assist that would be awesome :D
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21:07<tomane>hello
21:07<tomane>help installing nvifia on parrot for dual screen
21:07<tomane>nvidia drivers
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21:08<annadane>!parrot
21:08<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
21:09<tomane>thanks
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21:09<lisa61095>I installed a debian installation with no desktop environment - only selected tasksel "Standard system utilities" ... But when I reboot, I have no networking ... what would I need to install to have something like network-manager that automatically connects to wifi networks, etc for me? will network-manager even work without X?
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21:12<coruja>lisa61095, apt install network-manager, which can be run by nmcli (or network-manager-gnome for gui)
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21:18<lisa61095>coruja: thanks ... so that I don't have to manually download dozens of .deb packages from the debian website, how would I download network manager and all its dependencies from the command line, into a particular directory?
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21:19<lisa61095>ah nvm - google answered my 2nd question. thanks
21:19<coruja>lisa61095, don't mess around with .deb files yourself, use the fine apt tools
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21:19<lisa61095>coruja: I can't, because I have no network connection
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21:19<coruja>ah, i read over ;)
21:20<coruja>no wired network available?
21:20<lisa61095>no, I could go somewhere with wired connection, but I'm being lazy and want to keep sitting in my cave :)
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21:21<coruja>lisa61095, how (meaning by which media) have you installed debian?
21:22<coruja>netinstall? cd? dvd?
21:23<lisa61095>coruja - I installed from ISO on USB. when tasksel portion of install came up, I unselected everything other than "standard system utilities"
21:23<coruja>the bigger the installation media, the greater chances to install additional packages with apt from there
21:23<lisa61095>yeah, I didn't use netinst -- I used the full cd image
21:23<dvs>How big was the USB?
21:24<lisa61095>I literally just installed, so I wouldn't lose too much time doing a reinstall if there was a way to install all the packages from installer (where I do have connection). How do I install packages like network manager after I finish the tasksel part of the installer?
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21:25<lisa61095>That is, if I wanted to install network-manager from the installer, how would I do that?
21:25<coruja>lisa61095, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin?
21:25<lisa61095>(without installing desktop environment)
21:25<dvs>lisa61095, apt install network-manager
21:26<lisa61095>dvs - is it possible to open a terminal during installer to type that in? there was never a point at which I had a terminal during install
21:27<coruja>you can also install additional packages after installation has finished
21:27<lisa61095>coruja: how? can I do this before reboot - i.e. from within the installer? because after I reboot I have no network connection, and no networking tools (no wireless-tools, etc) ...
21:28<dvs>lisa61095, I think there is one in one of the other terminals (Alt-F#) but it would be better to install packages after the install is finished.
21:28<coruja>network-manager is available on the install cd
21:28<somiaj>lisa61095: the installer should read the list of packages from the cdrom, so just apt-get install foo, and it may ask you to mount the cdrom too.
21:28<coruja>(network-manager-gnome too btw)
21:29<somiaj>I think you need to mount it at /media/cdrom0 or something like that, though it has been a while so I forget the details.
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22:12<razer>Hi, has anyone tried MX Linux and feel it fills that allusive gap between Debian Stable and Debian Testing.
22:13<razer>I tried MX Linux and it seemed pretty good, but I don't think I'll really know unless I try using Debian Stable, Debian Testing and MX Linux for a long time and try a lot of things.
22:14<razer>I do know that the automatic MX Linux packages intallers don't stay in sync with APT, so the GUI doesn't know what you installed/removed with APT.
22:16<razer>I'm using Debian Stable XFCE right now. MX Linux seems to take the job of testing packages and mixing in backports into Debian Stable for you.
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22:17<razer>It would be cool if there was something between Debian Stable and Debian Testing. I saw there was an idea to do that which died off. But a twice a year Debian moderate stable would make a nice version of Debian to offer I would think.
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22:22<razer>I'm also not sure how bad it is to be using old Nvidia drivers.
22:22<razer>Or, if that will be a problem with the next generation nvidia comes out and if you can even run Debian Stable with a brand new Nvidia card.
22:24<coruja>mind debian backports for stable releases
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22:26<furrymcgee>there are backports with nvidia drivers
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22:41<razer>furrymcgee, Yes, I expected that was a possibility. I'm just not sure I'm adventurous to do that.
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22:58<k-man>my laptop did this thing where it sat in my bag getting hotter and hotter. i'm guessing it hung with high cpu usage somehow and couldn't turn itself off
22:58<k-man>it was too hot to touch when i found it
22:59<k-man>anyone had anything like that happen?
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23:10<razer>k-man, I don't have a laptop and not sure what did that. It wasn't plugged into the charger while it was in the bag was it?
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23:29<k-man>razer, no, lid was closed and its supposed to sleep/hibernate i think
23:29<k-man>maybe the hibernation failed
23:30<razer>k-man, Do you run Debian Stable?
23:30<k-man>when i pulled it out, it was off, so i guess the battery had flattened itself. i cooled it off, plugged it in and powered up. no permanent damage as far as i can tell
23:30<k-man>razer, yeah stable
23:31<k-man>also, its never done it before, but i have noticed sleep/hibernation isn't always reliable. sometimems if i don't use the laptop for a few days, the battery will be flat when I pull it out. i think beause it was sleeping and never hibnernated
23:34<k-man>ah, automatic suspend was off
23:34<k-man>interesting
23:34<razer>k-man, Do you use XFCE?
23:35<k-man>no, gnome
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23:47<razer>k-man, I used gnome mostly, but just recently realized that XFCE is great up there with Gnome, but in a different way.
23:47<razer>k-man, Gnome was messing up my sound so it was popping and stuttering. XFCE doesn't even install Pulseaudio I've read, though it seems to be installed on Debian XFCE.
23:54<k-man>yeah i've used xfce a lot on the past but i found the high resolution screen support wasn't good enough for me
23:54<k-man>so i switched to gnome
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