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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-03-18

---Logopened Sun Mar 18 00:00:51 2018
00:02-!-Beowulf [~sanct@24-179-179-137.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
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00:04-!-lupine is "Nick Thomas" on #tor #debian-next #debian #oftc #powerdns #mastodon-administration
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00:06-!-HumanG33k is "realname" on #debian #debian-debsources #debian-desktop #debian-devel-changes #debian-mozilla #debian-meeting #debian-toolchain #debian-next
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00:10-!-caio is "Caio Patricio" on #debian-kde #debian
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00:12-!-HumanG33k is "realname" on #debian #debian-debsources #debian-desktop #debian-devel-changes #debian-mozilla #debian-meeting #debian-toolchain #debian-next
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00:16-!-rbalint_ is "Balint Reczey" on #debian-ruby #debian
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00:19-!-HumanG33k is "realname" on #debian #debian-debsources #debian-desktop #debian-devel-changes #debian-mozilla #debian-meeting #debian-toolchain #debian-next
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00:35-!-awal1 is "realname" on #debian-next #debian
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00:52-!-caio is "Caio Patricio" on #debian-kde #debian
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00:59-!-dust is "dust" on #debian #debian-lxqt #debian-next #debian-science #linux-rt #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #otr
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01:17-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian-next #debian-live #debian-derivatives #debian-offtopic #debian-reproducible #debian-gnome #debian-boot #debian
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01:58-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian #debian-boot #debian-gnome #debian-reproducible #debian-offtopic #debian-derivatives #debian-live #debian-next
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04:08-!-quentusrex is "William King" on #debian
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04:09-!-josgalo is "Jose G. López" on #debian
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04:11-!-geek01 is "realname" on #debian
04:12<geek01>good morning
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04:21-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian-devel-changes #debian-til #debian #debian-kde
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04:22-!-Sander is "blesschild" on #debian-kde #debian
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05:05-!-wCPO is "Kristian Klausen" on #debian #debian-next #debian-lxqt #debian-live
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05:23-!-sunilmohan_ is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-reproducible #debian-webapps #pere #debian-boot #debian #monkeysphere #freedombox #debian-js #debian-in #debian-diaspora #debian-outreach #debian-blends #freedombox-ci
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05:36-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-boot #debian-js #debian-in #monkeysphere #debian-blends #freedombox-ci #debian-webapps #debian-diaspora #debian-reproducible #debian-outreach #freedombox #debian #pere
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06:29<NeedHelp>hello, any experienced debian users here?
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06:32<NeedHelp>hi
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06:37<grove>There are plenty of expereienced Debian users here, but if you have a question: ask
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06:37<grove>!ask
06:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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06:38<NeedHelp>i tried to install debian testing yesterday but after installing it correctly it wont boot (no grub screen). i had this problem with debian stable install 6 month ago (unresolved too). setting the boot flag for the ext4 partition doesnt seem to help
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06:41<NeedHelp>*i also tried to reinstall grub from the recovery mode which results in an error
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06:47<b17>NeedHelp: recovery mode is an option in grub, so if you had no grub that makes no sense? do you mean rescue mode from the installer?
06:47<NeedHelp>yeah
06:48<b17>https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en
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06:52<NeedHelp>okay, thanks. i tried it with the (reinstall grub) menu option on the right partition (should be the same, right?) which result in an error..what do i do wrong?
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07:03<b17>NeedHelp: just guessing, uefi issue? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s06.html.en#UEFI
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07:11<NeedHelp>b17: you could be right, i have to search my bios for that mode but ubuntu worked fine
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07:16<EmleyMoor>I have an audio CD with a filesystem in the track 1 pregap. I have a program on Windows 10 that can rip the pregap to an audio file - I have done it to flac already but could try another. How might I go about extracting the filesystem from that?
07:16<EmleyMoor>(I'm using Debian as my main OS)
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07:22<NeedHelp>im back, my bios was alerady set to legacy mode and i cant open a shell in my debian drive because no shell was found (?)
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07:29<b17>NeedHelp: I have a legacy bios, but gpt disk, and grub needs a smal partition for efi with this setup.
07:29<b17>even though there is not uefi bios
07:30<EmleyMoor>Would ripping the CD to .wav be better if I'm trying to recover this filesystem?
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07:34<NeedHelp>b17: i dont know if debian is installed in gpt but how can i create an efi partition, just shrink the main one and create a new one with 200mb using a live disk like knoppix?
07:36<b17>NeedHelp: the way i solved it was with 1M partition type "BIOS Boot" I don;t recall the type code.
07:37<b17>fdisk -l will tell you what type of disk it is
07:37<NeedHelp>okay ;D
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07:59<EmleyMoor>OK... how can I cut the first 44 bytes off a file?
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08:04<ullbeking>hey all, i have a fairly large-scoped question about how to implement tiered storage in gnu/linux
08:04<ullbeking>i'm not really sure where to begin looking at my options
08:05<ullbeking>firstly, i understand there's a difference between cache and putting io-heavy stuff on fast storage
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08:05<ullbeking>and i do understnd that that this can can happening on different levels
08:06<ullbeking>e.g., the block level, on top of which you write your filesystem, e.g., ext4
08:06<ullbeking>other example....
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08:06<ullbeking>is something lik zfs, which has the tiered storage facility build in to the fs itself
08:07<ullbeking>i've been following the development of bachefs, which is interesting and promising
08:07<ullbeking>and apparently lvm can do it
08:08<ullbeking>the use case is as follows...
08:08<ullbeking>say i'm building a virt host
08:09<ullbeking>the common wisom is that the vms go on the fast ssd storage and bulk data goes goes onto "slower" hdds
08:09<ullbeking>but should the filesystem be smart enough to figure that out for itself, e.g., like ceph does?
08:10<ullbeking>but ceph is overkill for a single node, standalone server
08:10<ullbeking>so i have two questions:
08:12<ullbeking>1. what is the practical different between having tiered storage where where the stuff that needs fast io is literally stored on fast ssd, versus where the stuff that needs fast io ends up in a cachie
08:12<ullbeking>?
08:12<EmleyMoor>How does an ISO9660 filesystem begin?
08:13<ullbeking>2. what are the option that linux offers for both the cachig methid and the actuak method where fast things it's litereally stored and kept on fast ssd storage
08:13<ullbeking>s/it's/are/
08:13<ullbeking>EmleyMoor: i uesd t know to know the answer to this
08:13<ullbeking>shall i go look it up?
08:14<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... 16*0, 1, chars CD001, it seems
08:14<EmleyMoor>So, whatever format this data is in, it's not ISO9660
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08:16<ullbeking>EmleyMoor: apologies for cutting in. i see you weren't addressessing me.
08:16<EmleyMoor>ullbeking: That's fine, though
08:17<EmleyMoor>I want to get at thins data without having to find an "antique" PC to read it on
08:17<EmleyMoor>this*
08:17<NeedHelp>b17: i dont know how you have crated a fat32 partition with 1 mb size but using fat16 didnt work
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08:18<EmleyMoor>I need to run "file" on the 45th byte onwards of this .wav file to see if I can identify what format the data is in... but how can I run "file" on part of a file?
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08:21<ullbeking>speaking of fat32 file systems, is there any way to get it to support ownersip and permissions?
08:22<ullbeking>i'm trying to back up my home directory in a format that can be read by other computers
08:25<b17>NeedHelp: you are confusing partition and filesystem, did you find out if the disk is gpt or mbr?
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08:27<somiaj>ullbeking: when mounting a file system you can set the uid and gid for the whole filesystem for fat32, but you can't set indvidual permisions for files.
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08:39<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... it's just arbitrary "data"
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08:42<Guest910>hi
08:43<Guest910>helllo
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08:49<nightowl>hello everyone
08:50<nightowl>does anybody know where I can find some info on installing Debian on an iMac (mid 2007)?
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09:16<petn-randall>!imac
09:16<dpkg>iMac is a range of Macintosh desktop computers produced by Apple Inc. Intel and PowerPC (G3, G4, G5) models are supported by the Debian operating system, ask me about <install debian>. See also <amd64>, <powerpc>. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/iMac
09:16<petn-randall>!install debian
09:16<dpkg>There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.)
09:16<petn-randall>nightowl: Those above should be a good primer. ^^^
09:17<nightowl> awesome....thank you for this
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12:49<jhutchins>dpkg: Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/OFVv . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jessie" to "stretch" and remove stable-specific lines like jessie-backports. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade.
12:49<dpkg>jhutchins: what are you talking about?
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12:50<jhutchins>Erk, pastebuffer, sorry.
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13:52<sigimac>anybody have to dual boot debian 9 stretch with windows 10?
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13:55<GyrosGeier>I suggest UEFI
13:55<GyrosGeier>then you can select in the BIOS boot selector
13:56<sigimac>yeah the problem is, Grub sees the two of them but if I select windows 10 I have to enter a bitlocker key
13:56<sigimac>I can boot into linux fine but when I choose win10 I have to enter a bitlocker key.
13:56<sigimac>I have secure boot off
13:57<sigimac>when it's on it doesn't recognize anything
13:57<sigimac>sees nothing to boot that is
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14:06<jhutchins>sigimac: secure boot was originally intended to prevent people from running linux. That's probably not related.
14:06<sigimac>hah
14:06<jhutchins>sigimac: iirc bitlocker is an add-on encryption for Windows. You may have had something set up to automatically unlock it, grub is probably bypassing that.
14:07<jhutchins>sigimac: That's what I would search for for a solution.
14:07<sigimac>yeah I'm disabling bitlocker now in windows to see if that will fix that issue
14:07<jhutchins>Yup, lots of google hits on how to dual-boot with bitlocker.
14:08<sigimac>yeah I came across one that said to disable it
14:08<sigimac>giving that a try first
14:08<annadane>i think secure boot these days is largely left up to the vendors whether to provide the option to turn it off or not; i'd have to read up on it
14:08<annadane>irrelevant for a support channel however
14:08<sigimac>yeah
14:09<annadane>my next computer purchase will be a) a linux computer and b) not nvidia :P
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14:14<jhutchins>My point was that's why you can't see anything when secure boot is on. I meant to imply it didn't have anything to do with the bitlocker issue.
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14:15<jhutchins>annadane: It's pretty standard to be able to turn it off, that was part of a compromise Intel reached with some big customers who don't run Windows.
14:15<annadane>yeah, so i hear
14:16<sigimac>annadane: this computer I bought can be shipped with Ubuntu
14:16<sigimac>every single thing works out of the box on it.
14:17<sigimac>Dell i3464 all-in-one with touchscreen. Touchscreen even works perfectly
14:17<sigimac>24"
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14:20<jhutchins>sigimac: Ubuntu distributes some proprietary drivers that aren't available to Debian.
14:20<sigimac>but this has none
14:20<jhutchins>sigimac: You might get lucky installing it. You might also find that you can't download them even for Ubuntu (although I would expect that you could somewhere.)
14:21<sigimac>jhutchins: It's already installed
14:21<jhutchins>sigimac: The only problem you've mentioned is the bitlocker thing.
14:21<sigimac>working 100%
14:21<sigimac>jhutchins: thats the only thing
14:21<sigimac>and it's not a big deal. I'll just have to manually enter a key # if disabling it won't work
14:21<sigimac>not a "huge" issue
14:21<jhutchins>Xlnt. Did you need third party drivers, or was everything in Debian?
14:22<sigimac>jhutchins: only thing needed was the iw wireless driver
14:22<sigimac>but don't need that really
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14:22<sigimac>running debian on this iMac standalone. all works even iSight
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14:23<jhutchins>Dell has been providing some Linux support for a while now. 2009 at least.
14:23<sigimac>yeah that's why I buy dell
14:23<sigimac>all my servers are dell
14:23<sigimac>give them some kick back for being linux friendly
14:23<annadane>dell seems pretty good.
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14:24<sigimac>I like running debian on this iMac so much I decided to get a Dell all-in-one
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14:45<ricardo_>hola :v
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14:48<annadane>!es
14:48<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
14:48<ricardo_>thanks :3
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17:52<pep_>I'm having issues with default-mysql-server, it's supposed to be pulling an actual server (mariadb-server) but it doesn't for me. https://bpaste.net/show/93043b1025e1
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17:57<b17>pep_: default-mysql-server depends on mariadb-server-10.1
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17:57<pep_>Yes, that's why I'm surprised that when I install 'default-mysql-server' it doesn't pull anything
18:00<b17>yeah it tries to pull in all of them here, I'd guess something odd about apt going on
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18:02<b17>pep_: I've never used anything like stretch/main for a release in sources where did you get that?
18:04<pep_>That's how `apt-cache policy` displays it. In the sources file it's "deb <url> stretch main [..]"
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18:06<b17>yeah everything looks the same as here, so it's a guessing game without more info?
18:07<pep_>How can I get more info
18:08<pep_>I'll try removing hetzner's repos, see if that changes anything
18:08<b17>i might try purging the default-mysql-server, apt update and install it again?
18:08<pep_>I did that already
18:09<pep_>removing hetzner stuff and redoing purge/install doesn't help
18:10<b17>I just use http://deb.debian.org/debian for a long time now, but you may need other repos I guess for whatever reason
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18:19<pep_>https://bpaste.net/show/f82a3de845fd changing repo doesn't seem to help :/
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18:32<b17>pep_: I might check if that's the only pkg with problems like this? I don't know how you could get apt to do that.
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18:50<pep_>b17, I found the issue. The package name is mariadb-server-10.1 ..
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21:00<doubledutch>!hello
21:00<dpkg>Hi, doubledutch!
21:00<doubledutch>!ask
21:00<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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23:13<osxfailure445f>My [google/duckduckgo]-fu is lacking or I'm not trying hard enough or both:
23:13<osxfailure445f>I can't seem to get my macbook pro retina late-2013 to want to dual boot debian to save my life. Any ideas on getting it to boot up AND getting the network card to work?
23:13<osxfailure445f>Quick background:
23:13<osxfailure445f>I downloaded .iso and used etcher to put it onto a usb flashdrive
23:13<osxfailure445f>created 50gb partition using the os x disk utilities
23:13<osxfailure445f>booted up computer with option key down and started the efi option of the flashdrive
23:13<osxfailure445f>could not find driver for network card -> skipped step
23:13<osxfailure445f>partition step I selected the 50gb partition I created and deleted in
23:13<osxfailure445f>then guided partition with available space
23:13<osxfailure445f>it seemed to install fine (minus yelling at me for the network)
23:13<osxfailure445f>restarted and tried booting holding down option key
23:13<osxfailure445f>nothing by the os x is even visually available
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