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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-03-24

---Logopened Sat Mar 24 00:01:00 2018
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00:27-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian #debian-boot #debian-gnome #debian-reproducible #debian-offtopic #debian-derivatives #debian-live #debian-next
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01:01-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian-next #debian-live #debian-derivatives #debian-offtopic #debian-reproducible #debian-gnome #debian-boot #debian
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01:06<Net>Hi
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01:07<Net>what is the topic here
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01:07-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian-next #debian-live #debian-derivatives #debian-offtopic #debian-reproducible #debian-gnome #debian-boot #debian
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01:07<annadane>this is a support channel for debian, largely debian stable
01:08<Net>good , tanks
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02:55<tyson>yo
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05:01<ivan_>Saludos desde Venezuela Usando Canaima 5
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06:26<xeon>hello
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08:21<btl_rpi>Hello #debian
08:22<GyrosGeier>avijoni, ask on #debianppc, ideally when markos is around
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08:22<GyrosGeier>he did quite a lot of work on that
08:23<GyrosGeier>as in: got docker to work
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08:23<avijoni>I asked there too, but still waiting ;) thnx for the tip
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08:34<btl_rpi>Hello, i did install Debian Sid on a very old computer, which has no drivers for ALSA, but has support for OSS. So i installed OSS4, which told me i need some kernel modules compiled (DKMS).
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08:34<btl_rpi>So i needed to recompile a kernel
08:35<towo`>no
08:35<btl_rpi>now, after make && make_modules && make modules_install i am confronted with an error message during postind.d/dkms script
08:35<towo`>you need the kernel headers for your running kernel
08:36<btl_rpi>check, got them
08:36<btl_rpi>i needed to recompile to enable the OSS support, which was disabled in my installed kernel
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08:38<btl_rpi>the error message points me to a log file /var/lib/dkms/oss4/4.2-build2010/build/make.log
08:38<btl_rpi>there the fault is that a file Module.symvers is not found
08:39<btl_rpi>that file is present in the root folder of the kernel source
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08:39<btl_rpi>and i don't know why it isn't found
08:40<btl_rpi>any idea?
08:40<btl_rpi>i do not compile in /usr/src but in a user folder
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08:55<uvvtu>кто не русски тот на хуй
08:56<bremner>!ru
08:56<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
08:56<uvvtu>или нахуй
08:58<bremner>yeah no. I still don't speak russian.
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09:06<btl_rpi>Here are the logfiles of make install and the make.log: https://pastebin.com/U76iBM5V
09:06<btl_rpi>it would be great if someone could take a look and give me a hint
09:08<Zimsky>bremner: it's more or less akin to gfy
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09:17<b17>btl_rpi: ? is Module.symvers in the same place as osscore_symbols.inc
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09:19<btl_rpi>b17, probably not, where would osscore_symbols.inc be? ( i am now googling "how to locate a file on console")
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09:22<littlewing>Hi
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09:22<littlewing>I'm trying to configure pulse audio equalizer
09:23<b17>btl_rpi: btl_rpi i never used it but i thought dkms ran automatically maybe you should read up some more about how the pkgs work?
09:24<littlewing>I have one issue with presets. actually I don't have any preset sample include by default in qpaeq. Do you know how I can fix this ?
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09:28<btl_rpi>b17, ok i'll rtfm
09:29<btl_rpi>(although it says "runs automatically", too
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09:31<b17>probably just apt install oss4-dkms
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09:33<hanizam>testing guys
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09:34<Zimsky>test failed
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09:43<btl_rpi>b17, oss4-dkms is already newest version, apt tells me
09:50<b17>btl_rpi: well check to see if the modules are present, probably somewhere around /usr/share/doc/oss4 will have some info.
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09:54<btl_rpi>DEBIAN.readme: "To compile oss4's modules, you should install the oss4-dkms package, which automate the module build."
09:54<btl_rpi>^^
09:54<btl_rpi>funny folks, arent'they?
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09:57<btl_rpi>i'll post for help in the OSS forum now
09:57<b17>btl_rpi: well yeah they are sometimes terse, anyway it looks like there's some oss4=base and other pkgs to make life easier
09:57<b17>good luck, an oss channel sounds like a good isea
09:57<btl_rpi>thx
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10:10<b17>btl_rpi: there's a forum member who did a lot of work on oss for stretch try this if you have time http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=134126
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10:11<btl_rpi>i'll take a look, thanks
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10:14<btl_rpi>an interesting read
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14:34<futune>razer, I use SLIM with slock to lock screen, systemd unit file to lock on lid close/hibernate
14:34<razer>futune, ok, slock. Do you use XFCE?
14:35<futune>no, I use awesome
14:35<duncan>razer: Lock screen can be provided by multiple programs, it's not clear what you're using
14:35<razer>futune, ah, I'm planning on transition to awsome long term. I think awsome also comes with openbox or something, right?
14:35<duncan>e.g. were you using lightdm before, which would perform the functionality of screen lock?
14:35<razer>duncan, I believe it was called lightdm. It was whatever the default was for xfce.
14:36<duncan>razer: In which case, lightdm can no longer perform the function of screen lock, do you see now>
14:36<futune>razer, to my knowledge it does not
14:36<duncan>razer: You'll need to choose another one.
14:36<futune>slim is nice, just install a separate screen lock
14:37<razer>Ok, I forget now when lightdm was replaced by.
14:37<duncan>You'll probably want Xscreensaver
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14:39<razer>woah, I just installed slock and ran it and got stuck and a flashing screen for the last minute.
14:39<futune>slock just blacks the screen
14:39<razer>It was going blue and red
14:39<futune>it goes red when you hit enter after typing an incorrect password
14:39<purple>did u put on 3d glasses
14:39<futune>it goes blue when you started typing a password
14:39<razer>ah
14:40<razer>Ok, It is a black screen. You type the login in. If you get it wrong I think the screen flashes red.
14:40<razer>There is literally nothing on the screen. You just type your login.
14:40<razer>Guessing that is the only way I got back here.
14:40<futune>I was about to type a long message explaining this
14:40<futune>but yes
14:40<futune>that's it
14:40<razer>haha. wonderful puzzle.
14:41<futune>read documentation next time before you install something, hehe
14:41<bremner>ooc, why not just just lightdm with xfce?
14:41<bremner>isn't that the "official" choice?
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14:52<pappeter>Hello
14:52<pappeter>I am Peter... anybody here now?
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14:52<pappeter>almost all of this day I fighted with the fresh installed Debian
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14:53<pappeter>and I can't make a correct xorg.conf file
14:53<pappeter>somebody can help me?
14:53<razer>pappeter, I've never edited it. I was trying to find it to disable compositing though.
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14:54<pappeter>I have an external CRT monitor, and I want to set that 1600x1200@100hz resolution
14:54<pappeter>with my t420 Thinkpad laptop
14:54<razer>What desktop environment are you using? One that you have to edit xorg.conf?
14:55<pappeter>LXDE
14:55<razer> All the DE's I've used have system -> display window you can adjust the resolution and refresh rate. Or, by opening nvidia display settings.
14:55<razer>I don't know LXDE, but I have tried it and don't like it. I recommend XFCE.
14:56<razer>XFCE is wonderful. You can turn off compositing and also don't show window will moving so it just shows outline only.
14:56<razer>I'm running 1920x1080@144hz.
14:56<pappeter>a CRT?
14:56<razer>No, LCD. LG gaming monitor 24 inches.
14:57<pappeter>Yeah.. with modern monitors not so big problem
14:58<razer>I suggest moving to LCD. You can get 24GM79G-B for $250.
14:58<jhutchins>pappeter: xrandr
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14:58<pappeter>VGA-1 connected 1024x768+1366+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.00* 800x600 60.32 56.25 848x480 60.00 640x480 59.94
14:58<pappeter>... so I have to create a "bigger" resolution
14:59<razer>DP-0 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 298mm
14:59<razer> 1920x1080 60.00 + 144.00* 119.98 119.88 100.00 99.93 74.99 59.94 50.00
14:59<razer> 1440x900 119.85
14:59<razer> 1280x1024 119.96 75.02 60.02
14:59<razer> 1280x960 99.78
14:59<razer> 1280x720 60.00 59.94 50.00
14:59<razer> 1024x768 119.99 75.03 60.00
14:59<razer> 800x600 119.97 99.66 75.00 60.32
14:59<razer> 720x576 50.00
14:59<razer> 720x480 59.94
14:59<jhutchins>!paste
14:59<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
14:59<razer> 640x480 119.52 75.00 59.94 59.93
14:59<razer>DP-0 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 298mm
14:59<razer> 1920x1080 60.00 + 144.00* 119.98 119.88 100.00 99.93 74.99 59.94 50.00
14:59<razer> 1440x900 119.85
14:59<razer> 1280x1024 119.96 75.02 60.02
14:59<razer> 1280x960 99.78
14:59<razer> 1280x720 60.00 59.94 50.00
14:59<razer> 1024x768 119.99 75.03 60.00
14:59<razer> 800x600 119.97 99.66 75.00 60.32
14:59<razer> 720x576 50.00
14:59<razer> 720x480 59.94
14:59<razer> 640x480 119.52 75.00 59.94 59.93
14:59<jhutchins>razer: please stop. Use a pastebin.
14:59<razer>yeah. oops
15:00<razer>Sorry, I double pasted too. oops
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15:05<b17>pappeter: I have an old crt, I used gtt to get the modelines. Also cvt seems to work okay.
15:05<b17>*gtf
15:06<pappeter>great.. and how can use that?
15:07<b17>pappeter: either use xrandr newmode/addmode or put them in the monitor section of a .conf file
15:07<pappeter>but I still don't know which modelines is ok for my crt to work on 1600x1200@100
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15:08<grawity>if it's not terribly old, it'll just refuse to work with modes outside its supported ranges
15:08<grawity>that said, 1600x1200 is the mode that I fried a CRT with
15:08<b17>yeah you need the specs HorizSync and VertRefresh
15:10<pappeter>Yes... I googling for hours
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15:10<b17>i think a conf is safer if you puts the right specs in there X will refuse the mode
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15:10<grawity>I'm sure Xorg performs the same checks no matter how you add the mode
15:11<b17>yeah grawity prolly right
15:12<b17>pappeter: so what's the crt brand/model?
15:12<pappeter>Infotronic
15:12<pappeter>no any info from this type on the net
15:12<pappeter>:\
15:13<b17>I have an old nec and learned a few thigns about it from the windows driver
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15:13<pappeter>C10021
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15:15<pappeter>anyway this is my generated xorg.conf file
15:15<pappeter>https://pastebin.com/pjfXmR2y
15:15<pappeter>... and I pasted that modeline 'line' there... whats doesnt work
15:16<pappeter>I am not an expert.. maybe I pasted to a wrong 'place'?
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15:17<b17>I might try 1200x800 @ 60 first and be ready to turn off the power
15:18<pappeter>but where should I put that line in a xorg.conf file?
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15:21<b17>dont use those X -configure xorg.conf files they almost never work
15:21<pappeter>Oh okay :)
15:22<pappeter>Then where can I use the gtf generated modeline?
15:22<b17>test the modes with xrandr and don;t burn it up.
15:24<pappeter>I typed the xrandr command and here the resoult https://pastebin.com/NKwyaAAK
15:24<pappeter>my external monitor is tha VGA-1 I think
15:24<pappeter>but as you see, here have only 3 resoultion option
15:25<b17>https://xorg-team.pages.debian.net/xorg/howto/use-xrandr.html
15:25<purple>what package contains the x config script?
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15:26<pappeter>Okay, I start to read, and try to understand :)
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15:32<b17>pappeter: 85Hz is plenty and recommended for my diamondtron and it was pretty near one of the best at one time
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15:37<pappeter>sudo xrandr --addmode VGA-1 1600x1200 xrandr: cannot find mode "1600x1200"
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15:47<pappeter>Re
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15:57<pappeter>okay the Xranr setting success and thank you
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15:58<pappeter>okay the Xranr setting succed
15:58<pappeter>but if I re-login everything jump in the old settings :\
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16:17<jhutchins>purple: There isn't a packaged config. Most systems run without one these days, but various things can generate fragments or whole config files.
16:18*jhutchins wonders if X starts faster if it doesn't have to scan and test for everything...
16:18<jhutchins>!xrandr
16:18<dpkg>xrandr is probably a command-line interface to the <RandR> extension; used to set the screen size, orientation and/or reflection. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
16:18<purple>jhutchins: what does v86d do?
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16:19<grawity>these days X doesn't do much scanning
16:19<jhutchins>purple: No idea. Context?
16:19<purple>upon update of the system the xserver didn't display the desktop properly
16:19<grawity>because the kernel has already done so
16:19<purple>considering using uvesa for a standard
16:19<jhutchins>grawity: The contents of Xorg.0.log would suggest otherwise.
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16:19<grawity>purple: have you considered using modesetting before that?
16:19<purple>v86d is noted as being used in conjunction with uvesa kmod
16:20<grawity>jhutchins: would they?
16:21<purple>grawity: modesetting is automatic isn't it? possibly why the desktop broke, wrong autopilot attempt
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16:23<grawity>also possibly the experience with uvesa on modern systems will be much worse than anything you get with KMS
16:23<grawity>I don't really know where you're getting "wrong autopilot attempt" from
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16:28<b17>x loads and unloads a few different drivers without a .conf file to tell it which to use, according to the log. I always setup a driver at least.
16:28<purple>grawity: wrong modeset by kernel
16:28<grawity>as in wrong choice of resolution?
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16:30<purple>grawity: the kernel was updated then the desktop was gone at boot though x starts (the mouse cursor works)
16:30<grawity>well that doesn't sound like a video-driver problem so far
16:31<grawity>the mouse cursor doesn't get *much* special handling -- if it's visible, then the modeswitch did succeed
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16:34<jhutchins>purple: What release are you on? What kernel is it runnig now? Can you boot to the previous kernel?
16:34<purple>say I find an interesting website is there any tools which can be used for finding the author and last update (how old it is)
16:34<amnoid>just scrolled up. did you select save defaults?
16:34<jhutchins>purple: Nope. That information has to be included by the author.
16:34<purple>jhutchins: the previous kernel is running now 4.10 (one's?)
16:34<purple>FROM YESTERDAY
16:34<jhutchins>purple: You can find out who owns the domain sometimes, if they haven't masked it.
16:35<amnoid>kde has save defaults as a gui option. gnome.. well who cares its gnome nobody uses that.
16:35<jhutchins>,kernels
16:35<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.15.0-2-686 (4.15.11-1); buster: 4.15.0-1-686 (4.15.4-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.82-1+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
16:35<judd>3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3)
16:35<jhutchins>purple: So does the previous kernel work?
16:36<amnoid>Linux amnesia 3.16.0-4-586 #1 Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) i686 GNU/Linux [what you really really want]
16:36<purple>here is an example of an interesting page which I desire the author in attempts to network: https://lonang.com
16:36<purple>jhutchins: it runs now as it were from install of the livecd
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16:38<purple>amnoid: why do you think I want that?
16:38<purple>are you attempting to wipe anybodies mind?
16:38<purple>so you can turn them into puppets
16:39<purple>amnoid: I have the freebsd cluster don't you have conscern about using such weapons
16:40<amnoid>same reason snowden did.
16:40<purple>did?
16:40<amnoid>did.
16:40<amnoid>notice know more Ian Murdoch?
16:40<purple>and you feel I need it now?
16:40<jhutchins>purple: No info avaialable.
16:40<amnoid>not unless you are a bad-ass
16:41*amnoid looks around for bad asses
16:41<purple>jhutchins: no info about v86d and uvesa?
16:41<jhutchins>no, about lonang.com
16:41<purple>jhutchins: did you do a query against it?
16:41<purple>jhutchins: the facebook page was down but there is a twitter
16:42<purple>if it is not recent its something like a deadline
16:42<purple>not useful for networking
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16:42<jhutchins>There's a "Contact" link, and the About link lists several authors.
16:42<purple>whoever authored the page shares some inbterests so if I can find the authors it is useful for networking
16:43<purple>twitter isnt really thought of as a reliable networking tool, something like wild bird chirps
16:43<purple>for I
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16:45<purple>most communication is not reliable due to hacking
16:45<purple>it is more likely to prove useful to catch an operator live
16:46<purple>say I were to find the page author online during a session
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16:46<amnoid>wild bird chirps heh
16:47<purple>yeah walk outside and a flock starts chirping
16:48<amnoid>safest place to hack from is 200 N.W. 5th Street in Downtown Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
16:48<purple>an occasional loan bird stops to look at one
16:48<purple>then flies away like nelly furtado
16:48<purple>not really a networking tool
16:48<amnoid>a loan bird heh
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16:49<purple>cardinal or bluejay
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16:49<purple>crows usually flock
16:49<amnoid>kill each in unrelated ways
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16:50<purple>kill each?
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16:51<amnoid>Yes.
16:51<intheNOW>Yes
16:51<amnoid>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTZ7iX4vTQ
16:51<purple>what's the context there
16:51<amnoid>casual.
16:51<purple>each what
16:51<amnoid>do not tell anybody
16:52<amnoid>there is no s o l on murder
16:52*intheNOW ok
16:52<bremner>!chat
16:52<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
16:52<amnoid>[x]
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16:53<purple>offtopic is open
16:53*intheNOW kicks himself out
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16:54<purple>!v86d
16:54<dpkg>uvesafb is a generic <framebuffer> driver for Linux systems, providing support for non-VESA resolutions. Introduced at Linux 2.6.24. The v86d userspace helper (v86d package) is required by uvesafb, see /usr/share/doc/v86d/README.Debian after installation. http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/uvesafb.txt
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16:55<amnoid>!cd
16:55<dpkg>cd is probably a Compact-Disc, something that can hold about 650 megs, or a shiny silver thing that glitters, or a good beverage coaster, or change directory. To download Debian CD images, ask me about <iso>. To buy Debian CDs, ask me about <vendors>. To add a Debian CD to the APT system, ask me about <apt-cdrom>.
16:55<amnoid>nice.
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16:55<amnoid>!kldload
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16:57<coruja>please search the dpkg bot's database by /msg dpkg instead of spamming this channel
16:57<purple>!iso
16:57<dpkg>[iso] CD image, a file containing an ISO 9660 standard filesystem. Debian CD/DVD images are available at http://www.debian.org/CD . Also ask me about <netinst> and <check iso image>. To download via BitTorrent or Jigdo, ask me about <bittorrent>, <jigdo>. Debian CD image FAQ: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ See also <vendors>, <cd1>, <missing iso>, <blu-ray disc>, <iso mount>, <iat>.
16:57<coruja>and if you want to troll, pls go away ;)
16:58<intheNOW>True
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17:00<b17>i don;t use the bot much, but according to this it takes a dump nightly https://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot
17:00<purple>what sources of random can debian use?
17:01<purple>most of the installers come with no random
17:01<purple>openbsd, dban, possibly debian this has been noticed
17:01<amnoid>/lib/live/mount/rootfs/filesystem.squashfs/dev/random
17:01<purple>what is that a static file?
17:02<intheNOW>I love dban
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17:09<razer>intheNOW, I love you too.
17:09<intheNOW>Thnx
17:09<razer>intheNOW, Oh, I thought you said you love "debian".
17:09<intheNOW>razer i love debian as well :)
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17:10<intheNOW>and i love you razer as well
17:10<razer>So, I acted like I'm Debian.
17:10<intheNOW>:) thats cute man
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17:11<alnsaay>hi
17:12<intheNOW>Hi alnsaay
17:12<alnsaay>how ican began with theis system t think that its defecule than kali
17:13<dboles>there's definitely something in the air tonight
17:13<intheNOW>alnsaay: i think razer will be able to help you with this
17:14<razer>alnsaay, How can you start with Debian?
17:14<intheNOW>dboles: its the love of the universe
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17:15<b17>i looked up defecule and magic8 bal said "You might be right"
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17:17<b17>or it might have something to do with too much lactose?
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17:22<b17>man i hate languages, i bet it was "difficult" and I couldn't understand...
17:22<dboles>i was going to say... :)
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17:23<b17>i used to have a neat translator online but they took it down, need a dood pkg for debian.
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17:24<b17>good or dood, whatevr
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17:26<hubie>hi
17:27<purple>b17 for which languages?
17:28<b17>I would like to have one for every language
17:28<purple>is that why you want to wipe minds
17:29<purple>you know that requires making the language, no?
17:29<purple>and then there needs to be users of
17:29<amnoid>https://bit.ly/2IPRpvw
17:29<purple>looking to play god?
17:30<purple>how many times do you think human minds can be thrashed before they bottom out into corpses
17:30<dboles>what on earth are you on about. they're only suggesting a translation bot or something
17:30<amnoid>how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop
17:30<amnoid>u got questions we got questions
17:31<amnoid>!top
17:31<dpkg>well, top is a command to "display top CPU processes," but top can handle more ('man top' for more info). Try: `top' and to quit, just 'q'.
17:31<amnoid>!man
17:31<dpkg>man is probably a little guy that knows everything about Linux... just do "man commandname" and he will teach you all about commandname. You can search for the appropriate man page with "apropos term". Enable <tab completion> in your shell to fill in the man page names. Man pages are available online too, ask me about <dmp>. See also <docs> <grounding>.
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17:32<amnoid>dang that man command is handier than one would ever presume
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17:34<purple>if it works
17:37<amnoid>i.4cdn.org/b/1521921302502.jpg
17:38<amnoid>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PobrSpMwKk4
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17:41<jhutchins>Man pages are only as good as the people who write them. Some are great, some are so theoretical you have no idea what they're talking about.
17:41*amnoid agrees.
17:43<jhutchins>The ones that are blank templates are not the most annoying.
17:43<duncan>They are usually OK
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18:19<juniper>Hi everyone. My goal is to install Debian 9.3.0 on a 2008 MacbookPro. Debian installer says “some of your hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate.”
18:19<juniper>Missing firmware files: b43/ucode11.fw; b43-open/ucode11/fw.
18:19<juniper>My first few usb drives that I tried to load as removable media when the installer prompted me didn’t seem to work. It just returned to the screen that prompted me to load the missing firmware. There are a lot of possible problems, outlined below, and nothing I’ve done so far corrected any of them. Not sure where to start.
18:19<juniper>1. the file was not saved to the root of the usb
18:19<juniper>2. the file was not downloaded to a folder called /firmware of the usb
18:19<juniper>3. the file was not downloaded using a package manager as recommended, like aptitude or synaptic
18:19<juniper>but rather was downloaded manually
18:19<juniper>4. maybe the file was only downloadable to a cd and I tried downloading it to a usb drive
18:19<juniper>5.none of the files in the usb drive end in .fw. I couldn’t find any that end in .fw
18:19<juniper>6. maybe the files were not extracted properly
18:22<blast007>what did you download?
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18:28<juniper>Hi blast007 I downloaded the firmware files found on this link: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/stretch/current/
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18:29<juniper>firmware.cpio.gz, firmware.tar.gz, and firmware.zip
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18:32<b17>juniper: i don;t think there's no easy way to get b43 for an install. You can do it on a live cd or something and transfer them manually https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx
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18:38<juniper>Hi b17 I had read that link that you posted before, and I'm such a newbie, I was beyond confused. Do you think this is too much of a task for a newbie if there's no easy way?
18:40<juniper>A live cd with Debian won't run on the Macbook pro. Is that what you meant? Use a live os from a cd and then download them using the live cd os?
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18:42<b17>juniper: you dont have to just download them, it's a crazy system where you have to download a tarball with .obj files froma build and then a fwcutter extracts it.
18:42<b17>i'm not sure what to tell you.
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18:43<b17>install from a wire
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18:44<juniper>well I'll give it a try for at least a little while and if anyone thinks I'm hopeless to help, then they can not reply and move on to help others
18:44<b17>or another machine?
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18:47<juniper>I am curious what they meant though. In the link you gave me, b17, you are meant to install the firmware on another computer and then connect that to the Macbook when the Debian installer prompts you?
18:47<juniper>(The macbook pro is the target machine to get Debian installed on)
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18:48<b17>juniper: no, what I have been doing for years, is install b43-firmware-installer on a live cd, which used to not check for the device because of debconf, and transferring the files needed from /lib/firmware/b43 to the target.
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18:51<b17>i dont know if that still works, if it wasnt illegal i would send you the right ucode11 files i'm right here looking at them
18:53<juniper>You are nice to think of that but I'm in a careful position never to do anything even slightly outside the law.
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18:54<juniper>But it's educational anyway, food for thought, to know there's an easier way that might be illegal
18:55<b17>it's a good device, very reliable, but lawyesr have screwed up the world
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18:57<juniper>Apple helped write the software to get Microsoft on computers. I would have thought maybe they'd make it easier to get Debian on there.
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22:15<purple> how far away from debian main is kali linux?
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22:26<mnuhmnuh>why don't you ask kali?
22:26<mnuhmnuh>!kali
22:26<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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23:40<chrounum>Hellooo
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23:48<annadane>chrounum, helloooooooooo.
23:48<chrounum>hellooo
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