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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-03-26

---Logopened Mon Mar 26 00:00:02 2018
00:04-!-dboehmer__ [~quassel@p5DD9D428.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:04-!-dboehmer__ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:06-!-marijnfs is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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00:07-!-nowhereman is "Pierre Thierry" on #concatenative #emacs #git #erights #lisp #debian-kde #debian
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00:20-!-luizromario is "Luiz Romário Santana Rios" on #debian-kde #debian
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00:20-!-sidmo is "sidmo" on #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
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00:37-!-nick is "realname" on #debian
00:39<nick>hello
00:40<nick>someone help me
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00:43-!-towo^work is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #kernelnewbies #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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00:50-!-j_f-f_ is "J\xF6rg Frings-F\xFCrst" on #debian-voip #debian-hurd #debian-reproducible #debian-ubuntu #multiarch #debian-kbsd #debian #debian-gnome #debian-games #debian-lists
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01:07-!-rjsalts is "Richard James Salts" on #packaging #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian-games #debian-au #debian
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01:51-!-Hobbyboy is "Andrew" on #perl #oftc #msys2 #moocows #mingw-w64 #linode #debian
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03:22<wps>hello
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03:23-!-t3chn0 is "Ubi dubium ibi libertas" on #debian #tor #debian-devel-es #debian-es
03:23<wps>anybody?
03:24<towo^work>!ask
03:24<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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05:33<cef>Now that Alioth has gone, does anyone know where the pkg-llvm-team list is going to/gone?
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06:59<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
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07:33<Snythea>When using in a console ./* it sorts the files in this way: ./1.png ./10.png ./11.png etc, how can I make it sort ./1.png ./2.png [..] ./10.png?
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08:25<edeak>awww found the answer for the above question but they're gone
08:25<edeak>https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/38317/glob-with-numerical-order
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08:28<bremner>and there I was going to grumpily suggest renaming the files ;)
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08:30<Anarka>;)
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08:37<edeak>oooh yeah leading zeroes is the best approach
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09:34<webmind>Hi, when running dual-stack v4/v6 on debian, is there a particular order the interfaces get configged? first v4 adn then v6, or the order of the config file?
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09:54<goonieb>hello, whenever I suspend my computer, it reboot when trying to revert from suspend :/
09:55<goonieb>where should I look?
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10:20<Taiyang>Hi everybody, I've just started using KDE on a fresh install of Debian Sid and I have a few questions/doubts I'd like to ask you about...
10:21<bremner>Taiyang: #debian-next for sid
10:21<Taiyang>1. Doubt about how KDE handles fontconfig settings: some settings I've stated in `/etc/fonts/conf.d/` are not reflected (or differ) if looking through `xrdb -query | grep Xft`.
10:21<Taiyang>Ah, OK sorry
10:22<Taiyang>bremner: Anyway I'm not sure those questions are peculiar of Sid
10:22<bremner>Taiyang: well, feel free to install stable and test ;)
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11:01<Taiyang>After installing the `intel-microcode` package does the the microcode updater gets included in the initrd? (or it produces another additional initrd file?). I'm asking this because I'm not using GRUB (which, IIRC, takes care of this automatically).
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14:22<tgunr>On https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#Native_IPv6 it says "If you already have native connectivity, Debian should pick it up automatically from router advertisements" but in my case it is not. What are the default debian programs used to accomplish that so I can check them. I see ramond radvd and dhclient. Any others?
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14:29<mnuhmnuh>tgunr: ping? can you ping ipv6 addys?
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14:30<tgunr>if I dont have an ipv6 address how can i ping?
14:30<mnuhmnuh>tgunr: ping -c 1 $addy
14:31<tgunr>How will that work if there is no ipv6 bound to the iface?
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14:33<mnuhmnuh>tgunr: perhaps should have suggested ping6.
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14:33<tgunr>even ping6 will not work if no ip address and routing are setup
14:34<mnuhmnuh>tgunr: whatever. if you have ipv6, it'll reach target addy. if not, you should get error msg.
14:35<tgunr>that’s not helping me, I am not getting a router advertisement back from ff80::2
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14:37<mnuhmnuh>tgunr: your router may not have ipv6 enabled. check its webbish config iface.
14:37<tgunr>My other computers all have staeful ipv6 addresses from the router, just not this debian box
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14:39<mnuhmnuh>ah. i thought ipv4 tunneled ipv6 at the very least. beyond me, sorry.
14:39<tgunr>not by default I thnk
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14:41<Brigo>tgunr, any firewall rules there?
14:41<tgunr>no firewall
14:41<tgunr>i tore it down to troubleshhot this
14:41<Brigo>then what can be blocking those packages?
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14:43<tgunr>I see multiple approaches to ipv6, dibbler, wide-dhcp, etc, my question is what is the default way debian supposedly auto accepts an ipv6 address?
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14:44<tgunr>right now I have dibbler off, wide-dhcp off, dhclient off, I do see packets going to the router
14:44<tgunr>DOH!
14:45<tgunr>I have a bridge from eth1 to vmbr0, no wonder, I just saw the mac-address is the same
14:45*tgunr facepalm
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14:47<mnuhmnuh>tgunr: ah, ya learned something. be happy.
14:47<tgunr>not enough cofee
14:47*tgunr brews another pot
14:49<benedict_aw>Hello
14:51<mnuhmnuh>that's not a question.
14:51<mnuhmnuh>!ask
14:51<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:34<amnoid>!man
15:34<dpkg>from memory, man is a little guy that knows everything about Linux... just do "man commandname" and he will teach you all about commandname. You can search for the appropriate man page with "apropos term". Enable <tab completion> in your shell to fill in the man page names. Man pages are available online too, ask me about <dmp>. See also <docs> <grounding>.
15:34<amnoid>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFcGgTkpKyk
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15:41<mnuhmnuh>why should i do that?
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15:41<mnuhmnuh>i'm not going to without a reason to.
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16:08<raspbianguy>hi anyone here?
16:09<amnoid>yes.
16:09<amnoid>!ls
16:09<dpkg>CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1
16:11<mnuhmnuh>that's just, odd.
16:12<mnuhmnuh>!apropos
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16:14<amnoid>!ksh
16:14<dpkg>The Korn shell (ksh) is a Unix shell developed by David Korn (AT&T Bell Laboratories) in the early 1980s. It is upwards compatible with the Bourne shell, also including many features of the C shell (e.g. command history) inspired by requests of Bell Labs users. Packaged as ksh, pdksh (public domain version) and mksh (MirBSD enhanced pdksh). http://www.kornshell.com/ http://web.cs.mun.ca/~michael/pdksh/ http://mirbsd.de/mksh
16:15<raspbianguy>hi, I do have a question, I think this should be much easier than it has been so far for me haha
16:15<raspbianguy>I'm looking for a program to help me choose between two GUI after I boot up
16:16<raspbianguy>something like a GRUB menu but inside the OS, so I can choose between LXDE or EmulationStation
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16:16<raspbianguy>so far I didn't find anything, but I must say I don't know how to look for it beside google
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16:20<annadane>!raspbian
16:20<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
16:20<annadane>raspbianguy, ^
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16:22<raspbianguy>ok, thanks, but if any of you have a quick answer I'd happy to hear it
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16:24<amnoid>KDM
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16:26<amnoid>heh but maybe too bloat for raspbian
16:27<amnoid>try this search: https://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/?q=kdm+vs+gdm+vs&t=hy&ia=images
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16:28<annadane>(assuming they HAVE tor browser in the first place...)
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16:30<amnoid>(assuming you have the internet and access to google)
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16:30<amnoid>otherwise just look for kdm vs gdm vs
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16:31<amnoid>xdm is small and old school. i have never used lightdm
16:31<annadane>raspbianguy, anyway, i'm not sure precisely what you're asking. if you just mean a way to select between desktop environments, most of them come with it already
16:31<amnoid>XFree86 --configure got played out decades ago too
16:32<amnoid>lxdm is a wm so you want a wm manager
16:32<amnoid>lxde*
16:33<amnoid>cool i just hit the dejavu zone
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16:41<mnuhmnuh>raspbianguy: the newer dms offer a picklist of available window managers to choose from. lightdm, gdm, kdm, ...
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16:46<amnoid>kdm ftw imho
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16:49<annadane>kdm is superceded by sddm in debian but of course raspbian may be different
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17:11<mnuhmnuh>!dir
17:11<dpkg>wrong OS, foo. CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1
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17:32<amnoid>!modprobe
17:32<dpkg>Add module to kernel: "modprobe foo"; Remove module from kernel: "modprobe -r foo"; Define module options: "man modprobe.conf", "echo options foo bar=baz qux=quux >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf". See also: "man modprobe", "man modprobe.conf", /etc/modprobe.d/* , <blacklist>.
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17:36<mnuhmnuh>amnoid: yaknow, you can "/msg dpkg $whatever" and it'll talk back to you only. fwiw.
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17:36<mnuhmnuh>but where's the fun in that?
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17:43<amnoid>this is true mnuhmnuh
17:43<amnoid>since i already know what they do too :)
17:44<amnoid>debian is for the lulz. 2.6 kernel FTW except my old Tails
17:44<amnoid>3.16.7
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17:46<mnuhmnuh>!tails
17:46<dpkg>Tails (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) is a live DVD/USB <based on Debian>, with the aim of preserving privacy and anonymity. It is not supported in #debian. https://tails.boum.org/ #tails on irc.oftc.net.
17:46<mnuhmnuh>tails is great.
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18:57<k-man>how can i get an email notification upon hdd failure?
18:58<k-man>i'm not using mdadm
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19:10<sney>k-man: I think theres a SMART daemon that can do that
19:10<sney>or nagios/icinga if you're talking more than one machine
19:13<k-man>sney, yeah, i think smartmontools can do it
19:13<k-man>i've configured that
19:13<k-man>thanks sney
19:13<sney>np
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19:37<mnuhmnuh>whatever happened to Big Brother Network Manager after they morphed commercial? sigh.
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19:46<awal1>wicd does a nice job
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19:57<mnuhmnuh>"wired and wireless network manager" != BBNM, sorry. the latter was a monitor monster for large, networked systems, with a pretty colorized webbish, manager pleasing, report iface.
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19:58<mnuhmnuh>watched everything/anything you wanted to watch.
19:58<mnuhmnuh>offtopic, prob.
19:58<mnuhmnuh>sry.
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20:08<amnoid>!goatse
20:08<dpkg>hmm... goatse is really disgusting, or in ascii-art: (_@_) or (E@3) or (☛⍟☚), or goatse.cx is down :(, or given its own gallery at http://sam.zoy.org/fun/goatse/, or http://goat.cx
20:09<amnoid>!myg0t
20:09<amnoid>boom.
20:09<amnoid>weakness detected.
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20:10<annadane>!ops amnoid
20:10<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: annadane complains about a problem (see above)
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20:11<Guest1482>all hail myg01
20:12-!-mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ
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20:13<annadane>also WHY is that a factoid
20:13<annadane>let me figure out how to delete dpkg factoids...
20:14<themill>already gone
20:15<nevyn>themill: thanks.
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20:24<sney>retro.
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20:25<amnoid>!ops annadane
20:25<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: amnoid complains about a problem (see above)
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20:26<bremner>that person needs a new hobby
20:26<themill>quite
20:27<sney>judging by the myg0t reference it sounds like they found some ancient log and thought "whoa this is how you be a hackerman"
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20:57<mnuhmnuh>annadane: are you re-writing history? you don't want kids to learn about goatse? fool.
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20:59<sney>!snr
20:59<dpkg>rumour has it, signal-to-noise ratio is the ratio of meaningful information to irrelevant, meaningless, and/or random babble, usually used of world-writable knowledge databases, such as Usenet or slashdot.
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21:04<ryouma>disinformation is also noise
21:07*mnuhmnuh i strongly recommend #debian-offtopic for those unaware of it.
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21:18<mnuhmnuh>sney: debian's a community too, don't forget. it lives and breathes. are you seeing lots of noise, or just politically incorrect/proscribed? :-)
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21:19<sney>this is a support channel. you already know where 'community' chat goes.
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22:09<Galaxy>hello who else but me is here? if you are here say aye
22:09<annadane>Galaxy, lots of people
22:09<annadane>!ask
22:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
22:09<Galaxy>oh ok
22:09<Galaxy> yay
22:09<Galaxy>:3
22:10<Galaxy>wait are we all on kanos, just wondering
22:10<annadane>kano is a model of computer i think? well, surely not everyone
22:10<Galaxy>oh ok
22:10<annadane>there are 781 people
22:11<Galaxy>wait ur a girl right
22:11<annadane>can you just ask your question? this is a support channel
22:11<sney>Galaxy: this is a support channel for debian users, if you just want to chat go somewhere else
22:11<Galaxy>what
22:11<sney>!irc primer
22:11<dpkg>"A Short IRC Primer": http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html . See also "The IRC Prelude": http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html
22:12<Galaxy>how do i get to a chat server
22:13<sney>both of the links from dpkg just now will give you that information and more
22:13<sney>but if you are using hexchat, start with ctrl+s
22:13<Galaxy>ok
22:13<Galaxy>then what
22:14<sney>read the screen in front of you and try things
22:14<sney>isn't kano a rpi computer kit to learn tinkering? don't be so uncurious
22:14<Galaxy>ok but how do ik if its a chat room
22:15<sney>under the server menu there is a "list of channels" option that will give you a list of channel names and their topics
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22:15<Galaxy>ok
22:15<sney>every channel has a topic. usually you can figure out from context if it's a serious help or coding channel or just a social room
22:16<Galaxy>how do i do that
22:16<Galaxy>does it tell me
22:17<Galaxy>if so where does it tell me at
22:17<sney>if you actually go to the menu items I'm suggesting, you will have that answer for yourself without asking
22:17<Galaxy>okay then
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22:19<Galaxy>its not working.
22:20<sney>look, this channel is really just for debian users who need help. usually the information & links I've given you so far are enough to help anyone find other irc channels
22:21<sney>you're just going to have to look it up yourself if something isn't going right
22:21<Galaxy>well i havent been on fora long time so dont judge me
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22:22*mnuhmnuh trolling.
22:22<Galaxy>.....whaaa
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22:24<mnuhmnuh>Galaxy: wiki.debian.org. _then_ gawk at me.
22:25<Galaxy>whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
22:26<awal1>ops! Galaxy tolling
22:26<awal1>!ops Galaxy tolling
22:26<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: awal1 complains about a problem (see above)
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22:27<abrotman>mnuhmnuh: please stop making things worse
22:28<abrotman>Galaxy: This is not a social channel. This is a support channel for Debian users.
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22:31<abrotman>Galaxy: If you don't know how to use IRC, try to google "IRC Primer", which should help you with some basic commands for navigating the world of IRC.
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23:40<luizromario>So, I have a usb wifi adapter that uses a chip from Ralink which is only half-supported by the builtin Linux driver (which is mt7601u, btw). In order to make it work, I have to, first, boot into Windows, apparently to load the correct firmware into it, _then_ reboot into Debian -- otherwise, this happens: https://paste.debian.net/1016869/
23:40<luizromario>Someone in the channel suggested trying a newer kernel and, after running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, with Linux 4.15.11, the exact same thing happens
23:40<luizromario>Here's the device identification: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter
23:40<luizromario>Any ideas?
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23:43<sney>,pciid 148f:7601 --release sid
23:43<judd>[148f:7601] is 'Unknown device' from 'Plant Equipment, Inc.' with no known kernel module in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=148f:7601
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