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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-03-28

---Logopened Wed Mar 28 00:00:05 2018
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00:20<ach>Did Sodoku enough equal for a bug tracker?
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00:22<ach>That's it https://www.dropbox.com/s/dset1k1hit3xa1d/Bildschirmfoto%20von%20%C2%BB2018-03-28%2005-22-39%C2%AB.png?dl=0
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00:29<mnuhmnuh>is that spam?
00:32<ach>i played just trhee but it should spend a red X where the cursor is but it's just Jessie so maybe they fixed before
00:33<ach>i wouldn't post up spam
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00:46<LeLutin>I've been having many issues with packages.debian.org recently. it's showing random "package not found in this architecture" pages where there should be information.. anybody know if this is a known situation by maintainers of this service?
00:47<annadane>LeLutin, i think i saw someone talk about that, but try bringing it up on #debian-www
00:49*mnuhmnuh misses tsx-11.mit. ...
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00:57<LeLutin>annadane: ok thanks
00:57<mnuhmnuh>LeLutin: easy enough to test. bang on it.
00:57<LeLutin>mnuhmnuh: like an old TV?
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00:57<mnuhmnuh>i will.
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01:05<mnuhmnuh>https://packages.debian.org/testing/database/pgadmin3 # no problemo.
01:06<annadane>you don't need to include "database"
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01:36<twb>I'm serving NFSv3 from Debian 9 server to Debian 9 netboot kiosks. nfsstat reports ~30% of nfs calls are getattr() --- why? This does *not* include stat() or readdir(), and I'm not using SELinux.
01:36<twb>(Yes, I know I should upgrade to NFSv4. It's on my roadmap, but not today.)
01:36<twb>http://paste.debian.net/1017164/ nfsstat output
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02:04<twb>OK I found some netapp.com page suggesting that NFS getattr opcode is unrelated to VFS xattrs
02:04<twb>NFS getattr checks permissions and locked-ness and stuff
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02:37<twb>Does a11y run on an entirely separate dbus instance?
02:38<twb>It looks from these apparmor profiles like there's the system dbus (created by systemd), the per-uer session dbus (created by systemd --user), and ALSO an accessibility dbus
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02:49<xan>hi
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03:32<lisa61096>f*ck the police
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03:32<twb>coming straight out the underground
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08:03<Cenobium>hello? I have a wierd question, I searched for an answer and it only got more problems.
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08:03<Cenobium>thenever I start the sound properties in gnome to adjust volume, the bass cuts out on all audio
08:04<Cenobium>I tried installing pulseaudio-equalizer, but the window just displays "could not find pulseaudio-equalizer_s8dragon.vn"
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08:05<Cenobium>does anyone know what's going on? I cannot control equalization but Something is controlling it when I start the audio-properties window
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08:05<kurdish>hello
08:06<Cenobium>hello
08:06<kurdish>how are r u bro?
08:06<Cenobium>good, trying to get help for a wierd audio problem
08:06<Cenobium>how bout you?
08:06<kurdish>i am great
08:07<kurdish>also i am here to getting help
08:07<Cenobium>what's your issue?
08:07<kurdish>I want to install parrot os dual boot with win 10
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08:07<kurdish>but I will get problem
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08:09<Cenobium>have you tried steps similar to https://wiki.debian.org/DualBoot/Windows10
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08:10<kurdish>yes
08:10<ilmaisin>the bash-completion package seems to be in need of some love
08:11<Cenobium>can you boot parrot from a thumb drive?
08:11<grove>!parrot
08:11<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
08:11<ilmaisin>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=799064 the pmount reference file apparently has never been tried out before putting it to repository
08:11<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/799064 in bash-completion (open): «bash-completion: "pmount /med" then TAB hangs after upgrade to jessie»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-09-15; last modified: 2018-03-27.
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08:43<kilolinux>Hi guys, the netinst of Debian 9 support UEFI?
08:44<ilmaisin>kilolinux: afaik it should
08:44<ilmaisin>i think i used it to install on a uefi machine
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08:46<kilolinux>in the https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI
08:46<kilolinux>Debian Jessie (8.0) was the first Linux distribution to include full support for mixed-mode UEFI installation on these machines. The multi-arch installation media (available in netinst and DVD form) include the UEFI boot loaders necessary for both i386 and amd64 boot. By selecting "64-bit install" from the initial boot menu, debian-installer will install a 64-bit (amd64) version of Debian. The system will automatically detect that the
08:46<kilolinux>underlying UEFI firmware is 32-bit and will install the appropriate version of grub-efi to work with it.
08:47<kilolinux>so it is supported
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12:44<fre4k_>I did a netinstall of debian with gnome (without task), everything works fine except I can't login wayland session from gdm3. I am using debian stable fully updated machine
12:45<fre4k_>I guess I am having dependency issues
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12:45<fre4k_>What are the logs I should look into what I am missing?
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12:47<fre4k_>I used sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends gnome while installing gnome from tty
12:47<fre4k_>Xorg session in GDM works fine, but in wayland, I am having login loops
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12:47<duncan>Why do you think you are having dependencies issues?
12:48<duncan>Do you have hardware support for Wayland?
12:48<fre4k_>I used wayland in Debian Sid and Arch in this machine
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12:49<fre4k_>I think so, because I had dependency missing for several other components before that I figured out by myself
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12:52<fre4k_>duncan, List of packages I have installed https://pastebin.com/8fhec2Z7
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12:56<annadane>as far as i know wayland is the default in gnome on debian stable
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16:33<helgau>hi, i'm having a weird one, folks: my home network has the same IP range as my workplace, and I'm trying to VPN to my workplace.
16:34<tda>unless you are trying to connect as branch office that shouldnt be a problem
16:34<helgau>i can't reconfigure either my home network's IPs or my workplace's. Can i still somehow connect to an IP that exists on both networks?
16:35<tda>the office vpn should have it's own subnet, an uncommon one unlikely to be in use
16:36<helgau>the vpn does, but the servers at work are at, like, 192.168.1.5
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16:38<tda>hmm. that should work if you are connecting as a client and not providing a remote network for the workplace
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16:40<helgau>i'm suspecting that ssh 192.168.1.64 (example) goes to my home network. Can i change the priority of the network devices somehow?
16:41<tda>i dont know the right way to handle that sorry
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16:42<helgau>do you know a channel that might know?
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16:43<annadane>perhaps ##networking on freenode
16:43<tda>##networking. not sure if openvpn has one
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16:45<helgau>seems like neither openvpn nor networking really have a channel
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16:47<annadane>helgau, ##networking on irc.freenode.net? 1200 people
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16:47<helgau>that's weird, i get 0 people when i join
16:47<annadane>sorry, chat.freenode.net
16:48<annadane>mind the double hash marks
16:48<BCMM>helgau: are you definitely looking on freenode?
16:48<BCMM>helgau: and are you definitely looking in ##networking, not #networking?
16:48<annadane>not #networking, ##networking
16:48<tda>## means you need to register
16:48<annadane>oh does it
16:48<BCMM>tda: no it doesn't
16:49<BCMM>## means it's an "unofficial" channel
16:49<tda>then im pretty sure ##networking requires registration
16:49<BCMM>i.e. #debian has one # because it's officially blessed by the Debian Project
16:49<helgau>it does show the channel on chat.freenode.net, but not on irc.freenode.net
16:49<annadane>yeah, i'm stupid, ignore that
16:49<BCMM>##windows has two #s because it's not officially blessed by microsoft
16:49<annadane>chat.freenode.net ^^
16:50<BCMM>i'm pretty sure ##networking requires registration, but it's not indicated by the ##
16:50<annadane>i wonder what twitter has :D
16:50<BCMM>large channels usually do, because freenode attracts to many kids who just learned to script IRC and want attention
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18:01<ais-admin>yes helgau that will definately be a problem. Even though the vpn subnet is different, openVPN will place routes in your table wihich will conflict with your local subnet. Change your home subnet to anything other than the office subnet and the openVPN subnet and all your troubles will go away.
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18:20<helgau>belatedly: i did that.
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18:56<ais-admin>helgau - you should not have to configure any routes - openVPN will normall take care of that for you. If for some reason its not, then you should add a parameter to the openVPN server to push the route to your client - something like push "route 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0"
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18:57<ais-admin>or more to the point of your office config - push "route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0"
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18:59<ais-admin>but normally the client does the route add automagically - I do not have to push routes to any of my clients - I have a dozen around the planet on BSD, Linux and Winblows. They all just work. OpenVPN rocks. I'm a big fan.
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20:00<winston>I'm on stretch and I'm trying to upgrade my kernel, which is still 2.6.32-042stab125.5, because it got dist-upgraded all the way back from wheezy. I installed linux-headers-4.9.0-6-amd64, rebooted, but I'm still on the old 2.6 kernel. Help please!
20:04<mnuhmnuh>aptitude search linux-image
20:04<mnuhmnuh>what ya got?
20:04<winston>XD
20:05<winston>aptitude: command not found
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20:05<winston>ok, installed aptitude quickly
20:05<mnuhmnuh>sudo apt-get update && apt-get install aptitude
20:05<annadane>don't need aptitude for search
20:06<winston>i know, whatever
20:06<winston>well, it shows me the meta and dummy packages and the 4.9 images
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20:12<razer>I try to do sudo apt install vlc and I get this error: https://paste.debian.net/1017356/
20:12<mnuhmnuh>annadane: i search in many ways; aptitude's one of 'em. :-) "apt search" works too, "apt show", "apt-file search", apt policy, aptitude why ...
20:12<winston>razer: you dud "apt update" before, didn't you?
20:13<winston>*did
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20:13<mnuhmnuh>404 not found is pretty definitive. no network?
20:14<winston>with no network you don't get 404
20:14<winston>if you get 404, connection is working
20:14<mnuhmnuh>winston: ha ha, who knows these days?
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20:16<razer>winston, I thought I did and it didn't work, but update and upgrade worked this time. thanks.
20:16<winston>:)
20:16<razer>winston, What you believe about the best Debian version to run for home desktop? stable+backports, stable, apt pinning, testing etc?
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20:17<winston>stable with some backports is what i use
20:17<razer>winston, I'm running testing right now, but have heard about things like the freeze and other things.
20:17<winston>but the stable packages work mostly fine for me
20:18<razer>winston, And why did you choose stable plus backports over testing?
20:18<winston>because i want stable. but for some games i need the newest java version for example
20:18<winston>such things
20:19<razer>winston, Ah, interesting I wouldn't have thought java would be used much for games.
20:19<razer>winston, I've wondered if the latest generation nvidia gpu would be supported on stable or stable with backports when that comes out.
20:19<winston>testing is just… well it mybe works as well. but i don't like having to worry about anything, so i'm not too experimental
20:19<winston>yes, my nvidia drivers are also backports
20:20<razer>winston, I think debian 9 came out after nvidia 10 gpu, so it was covered. But, I think nvidia 11 gpu will come out before debian 10 is released.
20:20<winston>oh, no they aren't anymore. but they were back when i was using jessie because my GPU was too new
20:21<razer>If testing messes up I think I could re-install and use stable. I kept my home partition seperate from the system partition.
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21:12<duncan>These brand-new Nvidia GPUs are not "supported" by Linux - they require out-of-tree drivers.
21:12<annadane>not surprising. :(
21:13<duncan>Are they even technically supported by Debian?
21:13<annadane>idk
21:13<annadane>nvidia is trash, avoid
21:13<duncan>Just because the package exists does not mean they are supported, which was what I was wondering, is there any "support" at all?
21:14<duncan>They are awful
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21:29<mnuhmnuh>"These brand-new Nvidia GPUs are not "supported" by Linux", so. don't go there. solved.
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21:34<mnuhmnuh>there's noboby cracking a whip behind you dmanding you $BUYTHAT!
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21:39<duncan>I don't care about GPUs, I was commenting on the things people said before
21:39<duncan>but sadly people will go there, so they should understand this
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21:49<ru7n>hello
21:49<annadane>hi
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21:49<ru7n>what is this
21:49<annadane>a support channel for debian
21:49<ru7n>wow
21:50<ru7n>im new in this
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21:52<mnuhmnuh>me too.
21:52<mnuhmnuh>have fun.
21:53<annadane>no you aren't. :(
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21:57<mnuhmnuh>annadane: don't know how to take that. yes i am!!! i just got #oftc mad at me for asking about that recently banned goofball. meh.
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21:58<mnuhmnuh>and yeah, i still am trying to learn irc, ffs.
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23:58<nauticalnexus>Any ops available? It's something on the freenode side but it's important.
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