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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-04-03

---Logopened Tue Apr 03 00:00:13 2018
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01:02-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debianppc #debian-next #debian
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01:08<brynner>How does this work?
01:08<annadane>brynner, hi, this is a support channel for debian
01:09<brynner>cool
01:09<brynner>I just disabled my root ..
01:09<brynner>Still learning
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01:10<brynner>ay
01:10<annadane>!newcomer
01:10<dpkg>Welcome to Debian! Here's some resources to help you on your merry way: The Debian Handbook: https://debian-handbook.info/ Reference manual: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ FAQ: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ - reading https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian is also a very good idea.
01:10<annadane>:)
01:10<brynner>Just like those youtube stream bots
01:10<brynner>!newcomer
01:10<dpkg>Welcome to Debian! Here's some resources to help you on your merry way: The Debian Handbook: https://debian-handbook.info/ Reference manual: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ FAQ: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ - reading https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian is also a very good idea.
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01:16<koriki132piloski>o co tu chodzi?
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01:16<annadane>!polish
01:16<dpkg>rumour has it, polish is spoken in #debian.pl on irc.freenode.net (not here). Or something used to make things shiny, or a really good sausage. polska -> #debian.pl
01:17<annadane>oh. they left. :(
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02:03<ais-admin>annadane how did you recognize that as polish?
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02:09<jm_>it sounded polish + (~koriki132@host-31-135-162-12.inm.net.pl) has joined channel
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02:40<AleksejShilin>Hi! What does apt-ftparchive delink function do? What's it for?
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02:40<AleksejShilin>Looks like it replaces symbolic links with hard links. But why is it needed?
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04:18<Eljotto>Hello there
04:18<Eljotto>no virtualbox on debian9 64bit?
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04:19<jm_>it's available via bpo
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04:19<Eljotto>hwats bpo?
04:19<jm_>!bpo
04:19<dpkg>backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>.
04:20<Eljotto>why not in normal repo?
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04:22<jm_>it's related to security patches
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04:28<Anarka>with snort long gone database support is there any debian way of doing things now ? since barnyard does'nt exist in debian
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05:19<dosierujo>ldapsearch doesn't work
05:19<dosierujo>It says Can't contact LDAP server
05:19<dosierujo>How can I fix it?
05:19<petn-randall>dosierujo: Is the LDAP server running?
05:21<dosierujo>It's active and running
05:22<petn-randall>dosierujo: Is it listening to the address you're trying to connect to?
05:23<dosierujo>I'm executing sudo ldapsearch -x '(objectclass=*)'
05:30<petn-randall>dosierujo: And what is the complete output you get?
05:30<dosierujo>ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)
05:32<petn-randall>dosierujo: Try explicitely passing the LDAP URI with -H.
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05:34<dosierujo>Only with -H?
05:35<dosierujo>It also fails
05:35<jm_>it will go to 127.0.0.1 if you don't specify it so yeah use -H option properly (or -h)
05:35<dosierujo>I changed some things, should I recreate the database or something?
05:35<dosierujo>I'm new to ldap, sorry if I ask silly questions
05:35<petn-randall>Define "some things".
05:35<petn-randall>Also, please tell use where the directory server is running, and on what interfaces it's listening.
05:36<dosierujo>The URI and BASE
05:37<dosierujo>Running on Debian 9 Stretch, I don't know how can I check the interfaces where it's running
05:37<petn-randall>dosierujo: Is it running on the same machine, or somewhere on the network?
05:37<dosierujo>Same machine for now
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05:41<jm_>find out which IP and port it's listening on
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05:44<dosierujo>openldap 15446 0.0 0.5 1288152 6012 ? Ssl 11:22 0:00 /usr/sbin/slapd -h ldap:/// ldapi:/// -g openldap -u openldap -F /etc/ldap/slapd.d
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05:45<jm_>netstat -nap | grep 15446
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05:48<dosierujo>tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:389 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 15446/slapd
05:48<root__>hello
05:48<dosierujo>tcp6 0 0 :::389 :::* LISTEN 15446/slapd
05:49<dosierujo>Hello, root__
05:49<dosierujo>unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 58671 15446/slapd /var/run/slapd/ldapi
05:49<dosierujo>unix 2 [ ] DGRAM 58657 15446/slapd
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05:49<jm_>use the paste site for pasting, http://paste.debian.net/
05:50<jm_>but that looks good - it should be able to connect on 127.0.0.1 too
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05:55<jm_>maybe try running it in debug mode
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06:04<dosierujo>The setup page of LDAP is outdated: https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/OpenLDAPSetup
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06:12<petn-randall>dosierujo: It's a wiki, feel free to update it.
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06:14<dosierujo>I have no idea of LDAP. Maybe when I learn how to use it
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06:15<petn-randall>dosierujo: What makes it outdated then?
06:15<dosierujo>It says so. It must be updated to Stretch
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06:19<ltmy_>你们好
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06:20<bremner>!zh
06:20<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
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06:25<tillows>anyone?
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06:30<bremner>oh, too slow
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09:00<mejo>I'd like to install Debian Stretch on KVM systems using the -kernel and -initrd options. do you have an idea, which files I need to use here?
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09:01<mejo>I found some in http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/ and in http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/, but both seem wrong according to the docs.
09:02<mejo>the ones in xen are for xen and the ones in netboot/debian-installer/amd64 have the description "for use with isolinux to build a CD"
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10:37<mejo>ok, seems like the files from netboot/debian-installer/amd64 work for me :)
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12:38<finn>chmod +x
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12:48<finn>oh wow.. sorry, terminator is being really weird
12:50<dan0>ello
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12:51<dan0>ello? is is me u looking fo?
12:51<annadane>!ask
12:51<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:38<user__>hello every body
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13:38<dboles>!ask
13:38<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:41<user__>ok, im sorry. im having some trouble with parrot os, it doesnt install the grub. Can anybody help me?
13:41<annadane>!parrot
13:41<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
13:41<dboles>probably, but please note that questions about parrot are best asked at its own support locations
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13:41*dboles got beat to it
13:42<annadane>your answer's better though
13:42<annadane>we can maybe try to help but parrot may have differences to debian
13:42<user__>i know what it is, it doesnt help at all
13:43<user__>thank you anyway
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13:44<user__>one more question. need help with pentesting
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13:44<sandy>How to dsiable TLS on Debian?
13:44<sandy>Thanks
13:45<Brigo>user__, and the question?
13:45<Brigo>sandy, TLS? where on debian?
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13:46<cauasysadm>Sandy, the TLS is configure on the webserver, like apache, nginx, etc..
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13:48<sandy>cauasysadm, I see. Thanks
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13:50<racq>hello
13:50<bipul>Hello, where i can download a latest stable debian OS?
13:51<dboles>that seems like one of the main things on the homepage https://www.debian.org/
13:51<cauasysadm>sandy ok
13:51<bipul>How about Jigdo? when it will reach to EOL?
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13:52<Blacker47>!cd
13:52<dpkg>cd is, like, a Compact-Disc, something that can hold about 650 megs, or a shiny silver thing that glitters, or a good beverage coaster, or change directory. To download Debian CD images, ask me about <iso>. To buy Debian CDs, ask me about <vendors>. To add a Debian CD to the APT system, ask me about <apt-cdrom>.
13:52<Blacker47>!iso
13:52<dpkg>[iso] CD image, a file containing an ISO 9660 standard filesystem. Debian CD/DVD images are available at http://www.debian.org/CD . Also ask me about <netinst> and <check iso image>. To download via BitTorrent or Jigdo, ask me about <bittorrent>, <jigdo>. Debian CD image FAQ: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ See also <vendors>, <cd1>, <missing iso>, <blu-ray disc>, <iso mount>, <iat>.
13:53<annadane>i don't understand what you mean by EOL, buster isn't even released yet
13:53<annadane>stretch will probably stop receiving full support in like 2020
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13:57<clamav>Does anyone or has anyone used clamav before?
13:58<annadane>sure
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13:58<clamav>annadane: Do you recommend it?
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13:59<annadane>well... viruses are less likely to propagate on linux systems unless you do silly things you're not supposed to, it's really only if you're scanning windows files for a server or somthing
13:59<annadane>antiviruses are a bit of a... i don't want to say sham but
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14:00<clamav>annadane: I am actually considering using it to speed up scan time for Linux Malware Detect
14:00<annadane>i would honestly not even bother unless you have a good reason
14:00<clamav>annadane: With LMD?
14:00<annadane>ie you think you may have been compromised, even then
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14:00<annadane>i've never used LMD
14:01<clamav>annadane: What about rkhunter?
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14:01<annadane>the problem with all of these things is false positives... i mean sure, you can run clamav and rkhunter but it's basically not necessary for generic use cases
14:02<clamav>annadane: Yeah but if I am using it as a warning system rather then an "auto detect and delete" its better then having nothing
14:02<annadane>i guess. anyway, if it's in the debian repo you can use it
14:02<annadane>just that the culture of blindly using antiviruses and rootkit hunters has got to stop
14:03<annadane>in a debian system where you do sensible things it's really not a thing people absolutely must do
14:03<clamav>annadane: I like the idea of having a tripwire like program to warn you when important packages have been modified
14:03<annadane>sensible things = only run stuff as root unless absolutely required
14:03<annadane>oh well, i think there's a package for that
14:03<dboles>on windows, i've seen multiple AVs that slow things down so much, they had to be removed...
14:03<annadane>i don't remember what it is
14:04<annadane>er
14:04*dboles clarifies that "too much" means it annoyed me and generated too much extra heat
14:04<annadane>s/only/don't
14:04<dboles>i think our work AV is pretty decent perf-wise though
14:05<annadane>it's not that they never have a use
14:05<annadane>it's that people think "scanning for viruses" is automatically a good thing
14:05<dboles>it's essential for business obvs, at least with general users who don't know 'do not open a javascript claiming to be an invoice from someone you've never dealt with'
14:06<dboles>but yeah, i don't think it should be a thing you use by default otherwise; there's no replacement for knowing/thinking about what you're doing
14:06<annadane>for the general question of "i want to use clamav so my linux doesn't get viruses", this is why there are permissions
14:07<clamav>annadane: Yeah thats not the case. Its more to harden production systems
14:07<annadane>yeah, ok
14:07<annadane>just be aware that these things are not a panacea
14:08<annadane>i actually think debian has a "hardening faq"
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14:08<annadane>i read that once somewhere maybe possibl
14:08<annadane>y
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14:10<clamav>annadane: Yeah Ive been looking at those and making changes where needed, never knew that SSH leaks the debian version
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14:23<sky_king>Is the Xfce Weather plugin in jessie broke?
14:24<annadane>in what way?
14:24<sky_king>As of yesterday it wont find my location.
14:24<annadane>i vaguely have a memory of having that same problem (not necessarily in jessie) but have no clue how to fix it
14:25<sky_king>To bad.
14:25<dboles>and did you update yesterday?
14:25<annadane>maybe check the bug tracking system
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14:25<annadane>yeah, any updates might do it
14:25<sky_king>Ok
14:26<sky_king>Thank you
14:26<annadane>again, doing things more properly than me
14:26<dboles>that''s ostensibly the only reason that anything would change, unless you also reconfigured something that you didn't mention
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14:26<annadane>i really need to work on my lack of tech support skills
14:26<dboles>heh
14:26<dboles>so much of it is just getting the user to fill in blanks
14:26<dboles>and going "aaand then??"
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14:28<annadane>well they left without answering the question anyway
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14:32<dboles>support is tough. i'm glad it's only a fraction of my job. most of the time is spent in ekeing out a problem description, and solving it is usually the minority!
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15:26<bipul>If i have to remove the passphrase from the private key. How would i do that? Do i need to use "openssl rsa" ? Is it mandatory to use?
15:26<bremner>what kind of private key?
15:29<bipul>It's RSA private key. I have generated for SSH.
15:30*dboles googles ssh key remove passphrase
15:30<dboles>https://stackoverflow.com/questions/112396/how-do-i-remove-the-passphrase-for-the-ssh-key-without-having-to-create-a-new-ke
15:31<bipul>dboles, I have also uses googles to find it out. But i am not sure why they are using openssl ?
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15:32<dboles>who is, where?
15:33<bipul>dboles, Here https://gist.github.com/agungf/8803512
15:33<dboles>maybe there is more than 1 way to do the same thing
15:33<dboles>try both, ensuring you output to different files, and see if either/both works
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15:37<bipul>Your given link was to change the passphrase of RSA private key.
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16:02<sergey>Привет!
16:02<darina>hi!
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16:03<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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17:26<kasper>what is the best place to report a package bug?
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17:27<grove>In the BTS
17:27<annadane>!reportbug
17:27<dpkg>reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting, or <reportbug MTA>
17:28<annadane>or use the bts (bug tracking system) through other methods
17:28<kasper>or more like, what is the best place to ask if the bug i am going to report is really a bug or not, without being sound like a jerk :)
17:28<annadane>https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
17:28<kasper>i found one in lldb (llvm debugger) package
17:28<annadane>oh, here, assuming it's debian stable
17:30<kasper>i think it is a story of an upcoming or just-stabled package; debian and ubuntu packages for lldb-6.0-dev are missing an important header directory https://github.com/llvm-mirror/lldb/tree/release_60/include/lldb/API, that potentially has LLDB.h (aka an important header). couldn't figure out the right person in past 5 weeks.. tried reporting upstream https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36770, but no dice..
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17:31<kasper>so i am not sure at this point whether it is by design, or which package should have API/LLDB.h, or is it gone forever etc.
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17:31<kasper>or if it really a bug with a big 'b' as i anticipated?
17:32<kasper>all the previous versions of lldb-<versionhere>-dev packages had this directory and sources have it in release_60 branch as well
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17:38<annadane>i'd answer you but i have no idea :(
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17:40<dboles>"in release_60, although the sources have that directory available, Ubuntu package is missing it."
17:41<dboles>*just* the Ubuntu package, or the upstream dist?
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17:43<kasper>debian and ubuntu packages both are missing it
17:44<dboles>is it missing in what upstream distributes?
17:44<dboles>if not, then it's not upstreams problem
17:44<dboles>if both debian and ubuntu are missing it, it's probably debian's problem, and ubuntu just inherits it
17:45<kasper>initially those packages are built by llvm under apt.llvm.org, so they are llvm-provided packages. then ubuntu and debian guys can use the same or create their own packages
17:45<kasper>however, ubuntu folks have elected to port this package from apt.llvm.org as is with a bug for their next LTS (18.04) going to get rtm'd in few days.. debian folks might do the same,
17:46<kasper>so i wonder who i need to lobby to make this an officially-pita scenario...
17:46<dboles>so, upstream provides debian/ubuntu with a package that misses that file? rather than debian/ubuntu losing it?
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17:47<dboles>then yeah, file a bug with whichever packagers are picking it without noticing the problem
17:48<kasper>but if the upstream http://apt.llvm.org has got it wrong, does it mandates apt to get the wrong stuff rather than inspecting and repackaging if needed?
17:48<dboles>no, distro packagers can and hopefully would notice the problem and add a local patch until upstream fix it
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17:48<dboles>if they didn't, help them out :D
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17:49<kasper>just tried 'apt install lldb' on ubuntu:bionic official docker (in beta today, will be rtm'd in couple of days)
17:49<kasper>'find / -name LLDB.h' yields nada
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17:50<kasper>with liblldb-dev, same story
17:50<kasper>is github too trendy for apt folks? :)
17:51<kasper>love how easy these guys have made contributors lives https://github.com/alpinelinux/aports
17:52<kasper>hopefully some day we can contribute to apt pkgs sources on github..
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18:47<bremner>or you know, wouldn't it be cool if there was a way to use git that didn't involve a proprietary commercial service
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19:34<glitchpunk>trying to install intel-microcode but get error intel-microcode : Depends: iucode-tool (>= 1.0) but it is not installable I am only showing one core working
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19:37<dboles>iucode-tool is in contrib. did you add that to sources.list too?
19:38<dboles>(intel-microcode is in non-free)
19:38<dboles>,v iucode-tool
19:38<judd>Package: iucode-tool on amd64 -- wheezy/contrib: 0.8.3-2; wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.1.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 1.1.1-1; jessie-backports/contrib: 2.1.1-1~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib: 2.1.1-1; stretch-backports/contrib: 2.3.1-1~bpo9+1; buster/contrib: 2.3.1-1; sid/contrib: 2.3.1-1
19:39<glitchpunk>contrib *facepalm* thanks!
19:39<dboles>np
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19:57<eli>hi
19:59<eli>... nobody responds for 3 days and counting
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20:50<bremner>responds to what, I wonder. hi?
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20:58<ach>maybe she thinks myths really exist
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23:43<keycollector>Am i able to install golang 2.1.10 from buster backports onto a stable stretch system? anything i have to worry about? just remove the backports from sources list afterwards?
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23:44<annadane>there isn't any buster backports
23:44<annadane>stretch-backports are taken from buster/testing
23:45<annadane>,v golang
23:45<judd>Package: golang on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.0.2-1.1; wheezy-security: 2:1.0.2-1.1+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 2:1.3.3-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:1.3.3-1; jessie-backports: 2:1.5.1-4~bpo8+1; jessie-backports: 2:1.7~5~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:1.7~5; stretch-backports: 2:1.8~3~bpo9+1; buster: 2:1.10~5; sid: 2:1.10~5
23:46<annadane>https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Some_safer_ways_to_install_software_not_available_in_Debian_Stable
23:47<keycollector>I need 1.9+, so i guess the stretch backports wont work. Ill read that link, thanks for the correct direction.
23:47<annadane>or
23:47<annadane>!ssb
23:47<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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23:47<annadane>not sure how well it builds and i forget the command to check
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23:50<blast007>,checkbackport golang
23:51<judd>Backporting package golang in sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch.
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