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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-04-10

---Logopened Tue Apr 10 00:00:23 2018
00:04-!-schoppenhauer1 [~schoppenh@ppp-188-174-103-91.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
00:04-!-schoppenhauer1 is "css" on #debian #debian-a11y #brltty
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00:05-!-dxld is "dxld" on #realraum #debian-hams #debian-boot #debian #bcache
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00:10-!-wget is "wget" on #debian
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00:10-!-thomasm is "toor" on #debian
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00:11-!-troy is "troy" on #debian
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00:13-!-howard is "Howard Baker" on #debian #smuxi
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00:16-!-semeion is "semeion" on #help #oftc #lxde #debian-br #debian #bitlbee
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00:16-!-lupine is "Nick Thomas" on #debian-next #debian #oftc #powerdns #mastodon-administration
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00:22-!-boud is "Boud Roukema" on #debian
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00:32-!-atom[m] is "@atom:matrix.org" on #debian
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00:34-!-imperia is "imperia" on #debian-xen #debian-next #debian
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00:35-!-benages is "Juanjo Benages,,," on #debian-es #debian-next #debian
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00:40-!-launch is "realname" on #debian
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00:42-!-neisen is "neisen" on #debian #linux
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00:43-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
00:44-!-average-guy [~Rob@c-73-108-210-28.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #debian
00:44-!-average-guy is "Rob" on #oftc #debian
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01:01-!-gusnan is "Andreas Rönnquist" on #debian-printing #debian-localgroups #msys2 #debian-multimedia #debian-nordic #debian-desktop #debian-boot #debian-perl #debian-gnome #debian-gnupg #debian-next #debian.se #debian-publicity #debian-devel-changes #debian-i18n #debian-games #debian
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01:01-!-howard is "Howard Baker" on #debian #smuxi
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01:02-!-Nevolution is "Nevolution" on #debian-mozilla #debian-nginx #debian-ubuntu #debian #debian-ipv6 #debian-amd64
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01:05-!-Darcidride_ is "Quentin" on #ceph #debian #debian-boot #debian-gnome #debian-next #gcc #observium #osm #ovirt #qemu #virt
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01:06-!-Darcidride__ is "Quentin" on #ceph #debian #debian-boot #debian-gnome #debian-next #gcc #observium #osm #ovirt #qemu #virt
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01:06-!-lathiat is "Trent Lloyd" on #debian #ceph
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01:11-!-junkmechanic is "junkmechanic" on #debian
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01:12-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
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01:13-!-poogle is "realname" on #debian-gis #debian-next #debian
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01:14-!-isaagar is "I Sagar" on #debian-in #hamara #debian-diaspora #debian-mobile #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-live #debian-azure #debian-boot #libindic #debian-gnukhata #debian-ruby #debian-til #debian-browserify #debian-desktop
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01:17-!-Ninja62-90 is "nOname" on #debian #packaging
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01:21-!-bumpy is "realname" on #qemu #debian
01:22-!-bumpy is now known as Guest2698
01:23-!-kathenas [~kathenas@79-74-75-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #debian
01:23-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian #debian-boot #debian-gnome #debian-reproducible #debian-offtopic #debian-derivatives #debian-live #debian-next
01:30-!-cyberdine198 [~RCgator@mobile-166-170-39-16.mycingular.net] has joined #debian
01:30-!-cyberdine198 is "..." on #debian
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01:34-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian #debian-next #debianppc
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01:34-!-gtristan is "Tristan Van Berkom" on #kernelnewbies #qemu #debian #ninja-build #debian-next #reproducible-builds
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01:38-!-andre_ is "andre" on #debian #smuxi
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01:41-!-francesco is "francesco" on #debian #smuxi
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01:41-!-DrZaius is "realname" on #debian-til #debian-offtopic #debconf16-menzies-9 #debconf16-menzies-12 #debconf16-menzies-10 #debian-lts #debian-devel-es #debconf-subs #virt #tor #freedombox #debian-perl #debian-nl #debian-next #debian-meeting #debian-kde #debian-gnome #debian-games #debian-es #debian-boot #debian #debconf-talkroom2 #debconf-talkroom1
01:41-!-francesco is now known as Guest2700
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01:45-!-wytchmaster is "Andreas " on #debian
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01:46-!-thunderrd is "realname" on #oftc #tor @#GamersOnLinux #siduction #debian #ck
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01:48-!-galex-713_ is "Alexandre Garreau" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:51-!-t3chn0 is "Ubi dubium ibi libertas" on #debian #tor #debian-devel-es #debian-es
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01:53-!-blaecwen is "realname" on #debian #packaging
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01:58-!-marcus is "Marcus Lundblad" on #debian #debian-gnome
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01:58-!-Boulder is "Boulder" on #debian
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01:59-!-chele is "chele" on #debian-next #debian
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02:04-!-gnzlbg is "gnzlbg" on #debian #debian-mips #qemu
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02:04-!-FooBar is "GooWard" on #tor-offtopic #tor-mobile #tor-messenger #redditprivacy #privacytools.io #guardianproject #debian-gnupg #debian-dpkg #debian #cryptoparty #cryptodotis #cryptocat
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02:04-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian-kde #debian.or.at #debian #debian-desktop #security #debian-next #debian-til
02:05-!-FooBar is now known as Guest2702
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02:06-!-blaztek is "blaztek" on #debian
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02:06-!-johndoe is "John Doe" on #osm #debian
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02:08-!-dust is "dust" on #debian #debian-lxqt #debian-next #debian-science #linux-rt #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #otr
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02:09-!-pi is "realname" on #debian
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02:12-!-Krakakanok is "Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker" on #debian-next #debian-es #debian
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02:12-!-billou57 is "Laurent Baillet" on #debian #debian-perl #perl
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02:13-!-galex-713 is "Alexandre Garreau" on #debian-kde #debian
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02:15-!-DonRichie is "Richie" on #suckless #osm #llvmlinux #kernelnewbies #debian #awesome
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02:20-!-anders is "anders" on #C #channel #codesurfers #debian
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02:21-!-u0m3_ is "realname" on #debian
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02:22-!-francesco_ is "francesco" on #debian #smuxi
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02:24-!-t3chn0 is "Ubi dubium ibi libertas" on #debian #tor #debian-devel-es #debian-es
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02:26-!-Delta-One is "P.F." on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
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02:34-!-tt is "chinggis6" on @#latex #luakit #php #debian-offtopic #debian #debian-kbsd #linux-rt #oftc #OpenBSD #gentoo #linux #freebsd #perl
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02:39-!-t3chn0 is "Ubi dubium ibi libertas" on #debian #tor #debian-devel-es #debian-es
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02:44-!-prahal is "Alban Browaeys" on #debian #bcache
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02:50-!-devbaka is "realname" on #debian-gnome #debian-games #debian
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02:59-!-Ganneff is "Joerg Jaspert" on #debian-boot #help #debian-lists #spi #oftc #tor @#german #debian
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03:07-!-hashar is "Antoine Musso" on #debian
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03:08-!-srtu is "Armin M\xFCller" on #debian
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03:09-!-rudi_s is "Simon Ruderich" on #debian-next #suckless #qemu #debian-eeepc #bitlbee #debian-games #debian
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03:09-!-arto is "realname" on #debian
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06:24<jelly>hi, I have a remote wheezy system with 3.2.96-3 3.2.0-5-amd64 kernel. After booting that, sshd and postfix seem to think there's no /proc mounted. Postfix service fails, and sshd fails to provide users with a tty. I can open a shell without a tty via ssh.
06:24<jelly>step 1) how to become root?
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06:25<jelly>step 1: solved with expect. http://pentestmonkey.net/blog/post-exploitation-without-a-tty
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06:29<jelly>that will be good enough to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and boot an older, less problematic kernel
06:33<petn-randall>jelly: Gotta love that perl comment at the end of that blog post. :)
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06:35<jelly>phew, booted older kernel and now I can call off remote support
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06:39<jelly>I did manage to create a tty with screen -dmS foo, but could not access it because... you need a tty to be able to attach screen
06:41<jm_>it's odd that it can't mount /proc - some custom kernel with odd config?
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06:54<jelly>it's actually mounted, but hidepid functionality seems to be broken
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06:54<jelly>and I've noted the kernel version, it's the current one from wheezy-lts
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06:59<jm_>ahh
06:59<jelly>apparently I have to blame myself for triggering a bug in backport of hidepid feature
06:59<jelly>/etc/fstab:proc /proc proc defaults,hidepid=2,gid=4 0 0
06:59<jelly>and simptoms also included #887106
06:59<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/887106 in src:linux (open, patch): «denying ptrace access check without PTRACE_MODE_*CREDS»; severity: important; opened: 2018-01-13; last modified: 2018-01-16.
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07:11<tillows>anyone?
07:11<jm_>anyone is not here
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07:12<petn-randall>!ask
07:12<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
07:12<petn-randall>tillows: ^^^
07:14<tillows>???????????
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07:16<_kab>I have a question regarding GPL compliance. As far as my understanding of the GPL is correct all distributed copies in binary or source form must be shipped with the GPL license text. The debian installer boots a minimal Linux kernel. I know I can find the copyright notice for the kernel that's going to be installed in the package repository, but where would I find information on the components
07:16<_kab>actually used by the installer itself?
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07:22<petn-randall>tillows: Do you have a Debian support question?
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07:43<GyrosGeier>_kab, the licence only requires a licence statement (i.e. "this is licenced under the GPL version x"), typically this is also extended by "you can get a copy by writing to the FSF"
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07:44<GyrosGeier>and even that statement is largely optional (it's there because it is what permits copying the code)
07:45<GyrosGeier>what is required is that if you ship binaries in any form, you need to add information where to get the source
07:45<GyrosGeier>but it's not required that this information is embedded in the binaries
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09:09<AncapDude>Hi all, can anyone help me on this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49754347/debian-jessie-shell-broken-after-apt-installing-from-test-branch ?
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09:15<petn-randall>!bat
09:15<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
09:15<petn-randall>AncapDude: Can you provide *all* of the above in a single paste? ^^^
09:15<petn-randall>Also:
09:15<petn-randall>!localized errors
09:15<dpkg>To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
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09:15<petn-randall>AncapDude: ^^^
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09:16<petn-randall>AncapDude: Ah, you went from oldstable straight to testing? Then I'd restore backups and start over.
09:16<petn-randall>AncapDude: Skipping releases during upgrade is not supported.
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09:21<AncapDude>I cannot provide more information. I lost all shells, the only thing i can do is do chroot into it from rescue
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09:22<AncapDude>Any chance to revert the changes from there?
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09:22<petn-randall>AncapDude: You don't need to provide that info anymore. I say you tried to go from oldstable to testing. Restore all data from backups and do the normal upgrade procedure.
09:23<petn-randall>s/say/saw/
09:24<AncapDude>ok, thx
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12:16<stripe>hi all just done a fresh install with i3, keep getting 'systemd[1]: apt-daily-upgrade.timer adding' then a varying amount of time, also getting 'systemd[1]: anacron.timer: adding' another amount of time (all in the tty) any ideas? cheers
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12:32<makson43>дарова всем
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12:56<jhutchins_wk>!ru
12:56<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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13:54<rockroller3d>Hi I'm having problems with sound on stretch
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13:55<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell rockroller3d about smart questions
13:57<rockroller3d>I keep getting no sound card recognized
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13:58<dboles>is that a message it gives you? when/where?
13:59<dboles>when did the problem start?
13:59<dboles>did you update or reconfigure or anything just before that?
13:59<dboles>etc etc etc
13:59<rockroller3d>I installed stretch on acer switch 10
14:00<rockroller3d>From the start i didn't have audio
14:00<dboles>seen https://gist.github.com/franga2000/2154d09f864894b8fe84 ?
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14:00<dboles>then ctrl+f "sound"
14:00<rockroller3d>I chose the gnome desktop
14:01<dboles>which shouldn't really be relevant for sound
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14:02<dboles>anyway, not many people having luck getting sound work by the looks of it. maybe you will be different! but may have been worth checking that before installing ;)
14:02<ais-admin>rockroller3d, have you done an lspci to see if the hardware is being seen?
14:02<dboles>https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2253934 from the 1st link has some quite detailed info, though it is very old, so may or may not be applicable anymore
14:03<dboles>anyhow, your best guess is to search for experiences of other people who already installed on that model, as i would imagine post people here did not
14:03<dboles>*most
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14:06<rockroller3d>Yes on lspci; no audio shows up just the z37xxx chip set
14:08<rockroller3d>Pulseaudio daemon is running
14:08<rockroller3d>But dummy output is listed
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14:09<rockroller3d>Is this just a problem with the tablet?
14:10<dboles>yes, some people had problems with sound. did you see their posts at those links?
14:10<rockroller3d>I was able to get through the uefi & wifi but I'm not understanding the snd_hda_intel module thing
14:10<dboles>buying things that were only ever made to run windows 8/10 is often asking for trouble with linux, esp the smaller things with less common chipsets and combinations of devices
14:11<rockroller3d>I believe that for sure
14:12<rockroller3d>But with Windows 10 it's just a slick paperweight
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14:13<rockroller3d>I've looked at the links but day they can see audio with lspci
14:13<mnuhmnuh>dboles: i thought things (*all* things) were only ever made to run win*. we just muddle through and make it so if possible. :-)
14:13<dboles>i have an acer tab that is probably older, runs 10, but i never used it much - not for general use, just tested an old version of one of my programming projects on it - i wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't much practical use
14:13<rockroller3d>Yeah
14:14<dboles>mnuhmnuh: indeed! but its harder when the installer doesn't guess everything correctly 1st time :P
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14:14<rockroller3d>I tend to use msys2 mostly anyway
14:14<dboles>haha same. 1st thing i install on windows
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14:15<rockroller3d>My problem is the update assistant for Windows 10 won't stop
14:15<mnuhmnuh>dboles: installer is always going to be playing catchup. avoid bleeding edge hardware if you don't *need* bleeding edge.
14:15<dboles>rockroller3d: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2234219&page=11&p=13508545#post13508545 may be promising...
14:16<dboles>mnuhmnuh: laptop bought in 2013, mfg mid 2012 here!
14:16<dboles>i7 3rd gen, pretty safe hw for everything else
14:16<rockroller3d>But for sound I'm happy with strecth
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14:16<mnuhmnuh>squeaky wheels get the grease. those that squeak quietly, wait.
14:17<dboles>...hm, yikes that link advises using a random binary blob from 2 years ago. maybe not then! unless there's a newer one (and you're into that sort of thing)
14:18<dboles>"Acerium works as advertised, but I still have a sound problem. I have the headphones working and there is some sound from the speakers, but only at headphone volume. You need to downgrade the kernel to 4.8.17-27.29-[blahblahblah] to accomplish this" :-/
14:19<dboles>ahhhhhhL https://gist.github.com/franga2000/2154d09f864894b8fe84#gistcomment-2172968
14:19<dboles>i think if you have any chance, it's that
14:20<rockroller3d>That page gives me some new places to look
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14:22<rockroller3d>I appreciate your advice & comments thanks
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15:31<tda>i need a debian ami with xfs root. how do i declare the accessory functions here? https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2DebianInstaller
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15:46<lids>is there any list of cli-packages?
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15:53<mnuhmnuh>lids: as in Command Line Interface? what do you want to do, specifically?
15:54<bremner>or maybe the .net thing
15:54<lids>I'm working on a srv and I need to check some cli-pkgs for tty
15:54<ryouma>lids: you can use various contrivances to eliminate packages with dependencies that tarnsitively lead to a window system probably
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15:55<ryouma>and daemons maybe
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15:55<ryouma>(not sure)
15:55<jhutchins_wk>lids: There are over 50,000 packages. The majority of them are at least cli compatible.
15:55<ryouma>and of course libraries can be eliminated
15:55<jhutchins_wk>I would guess that the majority of Linux installs don't run a GUI.
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15:56<lids>I'll check it! thx ryouma:
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15:56<mnuhmnuh>methinks bremner has it; .net has re-used "cli" in some webbish way i'm unaware of.
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16:00<mnuhmnuh>"Common Language Infrastructure"
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16:13<furrymcgee>lids: debtags grep interface::commandline | tagcoll reverse | less
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16:30<lids>furrymcgee: debtags should do the trick!
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16:34<furrymcgee>lids: tagcoll reverse groups the packages with same tag
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16:55<mnuhmnuh>hmph. the downside of ca. 30k available pkgs; still leaves you with 500 (often loooonngg) lines of "wtf am i looking at?!?" meh.
16:56<mnuhmnuh>i pity today's noobs. it must be hell starting from zero these days.
16:56<edeak>it sucks a bit.
16:57<edeak>but the automation is nice
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17:01<furrymcgee>lids: also try aptitude search ~sutils
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17:06<lids>'debtags grep interface::commandline' jungle helped
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17:10<mnuhmnuh>wait; are you concerned w command line interface or common language infrastructure? just so's i know what dir. not to bother looking ...
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17:25<lids>mnuhmnuh: cli for command line interface
17:25<lids>thx
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