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00:41<k-man>what is the correct procedure for installing debian on 2 disks in a raid1 array, with uefi booting?
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02:49<rudi_s>k-man: To my knowledge EFI can't boot from a (Linux) RAID1. So you need a EFI partition on each disk (and must install grub on both and manually copy updated kernel/initrd between them in the future). Then create a second partition on each disk with the remaining space, use that as partitions for your RAID1 and put everything inside that md (grub can boot from a RAID1). If you want to encrypt your = ...
02:49<rudi_s>...disks, put the /boot partition on the RAID1 and then the LUKS container.
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02:50<rudi_s>So it might look like this: /dev/sda1: EFI, /dev/sda2 -> md127 -> md127p1 (/boot), md127p2 (LUKS) -> LVM
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02:54<rudi_s>k-man: Ah, just found an interesting solution to keep the EFI partitions synchronized: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/265368/why-is-uefi-firmware-unable-to-access-a-software-raid-1-boot-efi-partition
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03:37<Ziga_Lausegger>Hello!
03:38<Ziga_Lausegger>Does anyone know what is the best way to set multimedia keys on Debian? =) I read this article but it looks like it is only written for the KDE: https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard/MultimediaKeys
03:39<jm_>I rely on my window manager to handle them
03:39<Ziga_Lausegger>I am on openbox. =)
03:40<jm_>have you checked with xev if you already get proper events?
03:41<Ziga_Lausegger>I have. Now that I identified the events, how do I assign commands?
03:41<jm_>http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings
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03:42<Ziga_Lausegger>Thank you. That was fast. :)
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03:44<jm_>no problem
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04:23<desafder>hello
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04:24<desafder>i would like my server to boot no waiting time for network up . is that possible ?
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04:26<desafder>by default it waits 5 minutes. i like to change the value to 1 sec
04:28<jm_>what exactly waits?
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04:47<desafder>jm_: the boot process
04:48<jm_>desafder: yes but which part exactly? are you using systemd?
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04:51<petn-randall>desafder: Is your server serving something over the network?
04:51<desafder>jm_: i just installed debian when i boot now i have to wait 5 minutes for time out
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04:51<jm_>desafder: try running «systemd-analyze blame»
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04:52<petn-randall>desafder: That sounds more of a config issue that needs fixing.
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04:54<desafder>i am convinced it is a config anoyance for those of us that use off line machines . wait 5 minutes to boot wait 1 min to shutdown
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04:55<petn-randall>desafder: Ehm ... it's 100% a config issue on your side, you probably configured a network interface to get its config via DHCP, and it's trying just that.
04:56<petn-randall>desafder: If you configure it correctly, there will be no delay.
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04:57<desafder>yes i put the network up dhcp just when i need webapp acces based on time schedule the rest of the time i have it off so i am looking for the config parameters for this 5 minutes boot time
04:57<petn-randall>desafder: 'systemd-analyze blame' should show you what exactly is stalling. I'm guessing /etc/network/interfaces has a interface configured via dhcp that is not connected.
05:00<desafder>yes the dhcpd server of my network is off on purpose systemd-analyze blame doesn't show those 5 minutes i have to wait as it tries to raise a disconnected the network
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05:04<desafder>petn-randall:sorry i saw it now how do i change 5min 1.867s networking.service to 1s timeout ? keeping dhcp as i will be required once the server need to be online ?
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05:05<desafder>i like to edit manually the config files once i find them
05:06<petn-randall>desafder: As I said, it's /etc/network/interfaces. 'man interfaces' is the man page to it.
05:07<petn-randall>desafder: You likely want to just comment out 'auto eth0', and put it back in when you have network.
05:10<desafder>how will i put back auto eth0 at 10 pm once it has to come back up ? i like to boot fast and have serveur wait trying dhcp until that service is up at 10pm
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05:14<petn-randall>desafder: Then remove the interface from /etc/network/interfaces and configure network-manager.
05:14<petn-randall>desafder: network-manager doesn't care if the device is up or not.
05:14<petn-randall>desafder: e/n/i is for when you want to configure a device, and want everything else to fail if it doesn't come up.
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05:19<desafder>for the records : i found creating /etc/systemd/system/networking.service.d/reduce-timeout.conf maybe the answer trying now hopefully back soon . in any case thanks
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05:21<petn-randall>Ah, they left. They'll be back when they find out that any dependent services won't come up, either ...
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05:51<furrymcgee>there is bug #100886 with dhcp fallback
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05:55<petn-randall>furrymcgee: Look at the timestamps. That is for a dhcp client that hasn't been in Debian for 10 years.
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05:59<furrymcgee>somehow my search algorithm returned this
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06:06<petn-randall>furrymcgee: Probably because the bug for some reason is still marked open. :)
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06:38<furrymcgee>five minutes is quite long timout for network service
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07:39<sonne>hello there!
07:39<sonne>is buster currently closer to being stable or unstable, if the question makes sense?
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07:47<likcoras>sonne: stretch was released just last year, so you can still expect it to be a while before buster is stable, I think.
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07:49<sonne>likcoras: i see, thanks
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08:17<ach>Stretch for best
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08:51<petn-randall>sonne: It's about 5 days behind unstable, give or take a bit.
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12:20<quantum>I'm trying to set shortcut like 'shift + ctrl + alt + arrow' in gnome 3 using default tool for this. But I can use only 2 modificators from shift,ctrl,alt and can't use all of them together. Why and how can i fix it?
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12:35<jhutchins_wk>quantum: Rewrite the keystroke interpreter code.
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12:37<quantum>found the answer https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/333368/gnome-3-22-disable-altshift-keyboard-layout-switching?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
12:37<quantum>it works for me
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12:45<jhutchins_wk>Glad you were able to figure that out, I'm not sure I would have connected the issues.
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14:20<SysGh0st>ceaw
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14:26<SysGh0st>LEL XDD
14:26<Emilgg>salut alex
14:26<SysGh0st>sall
14:26<SysGh0st>xD
14:26<SysGh0st>lel
14:26<SysGh0st>Bine ca mere acum :))
14:26<Emilgg>dap
14:26<SysGh0st>Mult mai bine ;))
14:26<Emilgg>deci cum dau screenshot-uri aici?
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14:27<SysGh0st>nush
14:27<SysGh0st>Nu poti
14:27<SysGh0st>ai rabdare putin
14:27<SysGh0st>sa fac ceva
14:27<Emilgg>ok
14:27<SysGh0st>ca sa fim doar privat
14:27<Emilgg>eu am inchis telefonul
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14:27<SysGh0st>ca aici unde scriem suntem pe un channel public
14:27<Emilgg>ahaaa
14:28<SysGh0st>ai primit mesajele in privat ?
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14:37<slidinghorn>!ro
14:37<dpkg>Pentru ajutor in limba romana va rugam vizitati #debian-ro pe irc.oftc.net. Romanian users: for help in romanian, please visit #debian-ro on irc.oftc.net.
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14:54<scootergrisen>How do i add files/folder to a .deb file?
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15:00<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: /msg dpkg package
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15:02<scootergrisen>Should that tell me how to add files/folders in the .deb file?
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15:03<retrospectacus>it should get you started in the right direction
15:05<scootergrisen>I dont see it
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15:10<scootergrisen>I tried using 7-Zip but maybe it does not support packing ar archive so it dont work
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15:11<bremner>scootergrisen: there might be a better way of accomplishing your actual goal
15:12<grove>scootergrisen: If you want to edit a binary package, the answer mostly is: you don't, what is your real goal
15:12<grove>!xy
15:12<dpkg>Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
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15:15<scootergrisen>I want to test something with the steam package. So i want to add a config file and a folder with translation
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15:15<scootergrisen>Then i want to install it and see if it works as i think
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15:26<bremner>scootergrisen: you might look at dpkg-repack
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15:26<bremner>or find the source
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15:41<scootergrisen>ok thanks i will try later see if i cant make it work
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16:25<K2>I have a problem where Debian 9 (all packages up to date as of earlier today) will sometimes completely hang when running in a VM on VMware ESXi 6.5. By "completely hang" I mean that the VM just stops, with VMware showing "The CPU has been disabled by the guest operating system" in the event log. The syslog on the VM contains no information.
16:26<K2>There's an article on the error here: https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2000542 - but it says to "contact guest operating system vendor". I saved a snapshot of the VM while in this dead state, but I'm unsure how to proceed.
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16:28<Guest2881>I'm having an issue with my mouse freezing after x screen blanking. I'm running awesome with startx on Stretch. By default the screen turns off after a few minutes of inactivity. When the computer wakes, the mouse is frozen for a few seconds. Here's the weird part: if I palm the touch pad, the mouse unfreezes instantly. I'm interested in solutions or at the very least debug steps.
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16:29<K2>The hang seems to occur sometimes during high network/disk activity. I have nothing fancy installed - just SSH, open-vm-tools and apache2/subversion. I've experienced a similar hang on other VMs too, also running Debian 9 on the same host machine.
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16:31<K2>The host system CPU is a, Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1240 v6. Two virtual cores and 8 GB of memory are allocated to the VM.
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16:44<Brigo>Guest2881, i would guess the graphic driver.
16:45<Guest2881>Brigo, are there logs I can check?
16:46<Brigo>Guest2881, if any, there are in /var/log
16:46<Brigo>journalctl can help too.
16:47<Brigo>K2, it looks like a kernel panic.
16:47<K2>That would've been my guess, too, but I would have expected the console to output something.
16:47<K2>It just shows the login screen, except the cursor stopped blinking.
16:48<Brigo>K2, try network logging.
16:48<K2>What do you mean?
16:48<Brigo>or maybe vmware has some kind of cosole you can send logs.
16:49<Brigo>K2, you can send the logs to another box, so you can check the logs after the crash.
16:50<Brigo>if you just want a workaround, try a different kernel version, for instead the backports one.
16:51<K2>I could try network logging, if logs usually aren't written to disk in case of a kernel panic
16:52<Brigo>K2, logs are written to disk by default you just have to send them to another machine.
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16:52<K2>I can boot the VM fine, though
16:53<K2>It's these periods during high network/disk activity that makes it die. I've seen it happen during SVN commits, for example
16:54<K2>(It acts as an SVN server)
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17:39<debie90>hi everybody
17:39<debie90>I can not run X server and I can not find where the mistake is, could somebody help me?
17:41<debie90>I have installed debian 9 from scratch with minimal packages, no xorg, no desktop
17:43<mnuhmnuh>debie90: "I can not run X server ..." and "no xorg, no desktop" sounds kind of conclusive. what am i missing?
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17:48<debie90>i have installed xorg and all the packages, the I run Xorg -configure, after create .xinitrc and then run startx, but no screen appears
17:49<debie90>it says something like backtrace
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17:50<debie90>modeset(1): drmSetMaster failed: Permission denied
17:51<debie90>AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 1
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17:52<mnuhmnuh>debie90: see /var/log/*X* (Xorg.0.log?). maybe --> paste.debian.net
17:52<debie90>ok
17:54<awal1>debie90, xinitrc for start what?
17:54<debie90>http://paste.debian.net/1019804/
17:54<debie90>openbox
17:54<awal1>what have you put in your xinitrc exactly?
17:54<awal1>debie90
17:55<debie90>exec openbox-session
17:57<awal1>debie90, I have had similar issue in the past; it may be bcoz of new xorg not needing root
17:58<awal1>try if installing xserver-xorg-legacy solves your issue
17:58<awal1>I also run openbox
17:58<mnuhmnuh>debie90: "Please also check the log file at "/home/debie9/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" ..."
18:00<debie90>should I remove xorg and then install xserver-xorg-legacy?
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18:00<awal1>nah, just install it
18:01<debie90>ok
18:01<debie90>after that should I run startx or do something in between?
18:02<awal1>startx
18:03<debie90>ok, thanks i will try it
18:03<mnuhmnuh>debie90: what are you running this on, as in hardware? nvidia perhaps?
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18:07<debie90>no, i have just installed xorg-video-intel
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18:09<debie90>ok, i will try
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18:14<debie90>it works if I run it as root
18:15<debie90>did not have to install xorg-legacy
18:15<awal1>Xorg as root? nooooo
18:15<awal1>that is a silly idea
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18:16<awal1>install the wrapper I suggested instead
18:16<debie90>yes, I think so too
18:16<debie90>what is wrapper?
18:18<debie90>i will look for it
18:18<debie90>have to go now
18:18<debie90>thanks
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18:18<mnuhmnuh>debie90: perhaps xserver-xorg-legacy?!? but i agree, "su -" to root, or sudo; don't run/log into X as root.
18:19<somiaj>xserver-xorg-legacy and running xorg as root are two different things
18:19<mnuhmnuh>if it won't work for user == broken.
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18:20<somiaj>xserver-xorg-legacy is setuid root, but you should still run it as a user, as only certain things have root privlages. Using non setuid xorg is safer, but not all things work without messing with permisions, hence that package is around as needed.
18:21<somiaj>oh debie90 quit, the thing I saw that could be the problem was they ran Xorg -congfigure, really one shoudln't need to do that, trying with a blank xorg.conf file may have helped
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18:53<mcstink>Hi guys, need some info, can anyone help?
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18:54<annadane>sure, ask your question
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19:13<bekricyber>hey
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20:03<z>howdoyoudo, ladies and gentlemen!
20:04<mnuhmnuh>z: so far, so good.
20:04<z>https://kodi.wiki/view/Creating_and_using_edid.bin_via_xorg.conf#Method_1:_Snag_EDID_from_plugged_in_device_.28using_read-edid.3B_edid-decode_to_verify.29
20:04<z>why this not work?
20:05<mnuhmnuh>z: you tell us.
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20:05<z>glad to hear you!
20:06<mnuhmnuh>z: log entries, error msgs?
20:06<z>anyone who know how to work with monitor?
20:06<annadane>z, what are you *actually* trying to do, error messages generally don't include website url's
20:06<annadane>you need to be more specific
20:06<mnuhmnuh>z: i don't even know what i'm looking at.
20:07<z>where paste flied?
20:07<z>field
20:07<mnuhmnuh>paste.debian.net
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20:07<z>https://pastebin.com/nygnYkCv
20:08<pastly>https://kodi.wiki/view/Troubleshooting#Getting_more_help suggests going to #kodi on Freenode. How'd you end up here?
20:08<z>well debian is empty at this question:-)
20:08<annadane>oh, sorry. the url wasn't included in an error message, i totally misread
20:09<z>why get-edid does not work?
20:10<z>my finally question:-)
20:10<pastly>"Looks like no busses have an EDID. Sorry!" looks like a reason.
20:10<mnuhmnuh>#kodi ?
20:11<mnuhmnuh>!kodi
20:11<dpkg>XBMC (formerly Xbox Media Center) is an open source media player application. XBMCbuntu and XBMC Live are Linux distributions based on <Ubuntu> containing XBMC, they are not supported in #debian. XBMC v13 ("Gotham") is available from <wheezy-backports>. XBMC will be renamed to Kodi for v14. http://kodi.tv/ #kodi on irc.freenode.net.
20:11<pastly>But I don't think you're asking the correct people. You should ask people who actually use this software.
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20:12<z>pastly, bad reason, windows has all buses for getedid
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20:12<z>i can not set 1280x1024_75hz
20:12<z>only 60 hz:-)
20:13<z>:-(
20:13<z>kodi help me to set up 60hz
20:13<z>debian is empty at all in helping:-(
20:13<pastly>Please go ask for help in the #kodi channel on freenode like we've suggested 3 times
20:14<mnuhmnuh>z: sorry, but you're in the wrong place to find answers related to stuff you're running.
20:14<z>ok)
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20:15<mnuhmnuh>zem_: install debian, and we'd be overjoyed to help.
20:16<annadane>i assumed kodi was a plugin or something
20:16<mnuhmnuh>another happy cust. sry zem_.
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21:11<k-man>is there any tool in the di i could use to modify the uuid of a disk?
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21:15<mnuhmnuh>k-man: you could ignore uuid and do it the old way, by ptn. no.
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21:17<blast007>k-man: is tune2fs available?
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21:18<k-man>blast007, yes
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21:19<blast007>k-man: http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-change-the-uuid-of-a-linux-partition/
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21:52<k-man>where does one discuss debian testing install issues?
21:52<annadane>k-man, #debian-next
21:53<annadane>!install testing
21:53<dpkg>Daily built <netinst> images to install <testing> are available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . The chance of the testing installer being broken on any given day is quite high. Instead, do a minimal installation using the stable installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Also ask me about <testing>, <apt-listchanges>, <d-d-a>.
21:53<annadane>no, not that
21:53<annadane>!testing installer
21:53<dpkg>Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
21:54<k-man>annadane, ah - i'm not sure which i was testing now. thanks
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