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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-04-14

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00:00<rob_debian>if you permit me, annadane, you said you speak french... and you speak english too, right ? english is your native language, I suppose....
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00:00<u235>Are u from EUA?
00:01<annadane>english is my native, yes
00:01<rob_debian>so, you are lucky... the best language all over the world, and you speak it natively
00:02<annadane>"best" is very highly subjective
00:02<rob_debian>british english is beautiful, but american english is faster than the speed of light. so it's wonderful !
00:02<reboot>bien que tel
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00:02<reboot>annadame
00:02<annadane>!best
00:02<dpkg>Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
00:02<annadane>:P
00:02<rob_debian>yes, annadane, in fact, I'm quite subjective, I realize
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00:03<rob_debian>best for learning mathematical logic, technology, debian, sciences, music
00:04<mnuhmnuh>this is offtopic for #debian, but latin --> francais--> english --> espanol are all very related, yet we all only barely understand each other. sad.
00:05<annadane>reboot, es probable que tengas un sistema roto y es probable que necesites reinstalarlo para usarlo correctamente y realmente aprender a usarlo, más allá de eso no hay mucho que nadie pueda hacer por ti en términos de soporte, y nunca entendí tu pregunta sobre tor
00:05<rob_debian>sorry, mnuhmnuh, you are right...please annadane, what should I do now ? what to do with 'zless /var/log/apt/history.log.1.gz | grep linux-image' output ?
00:05*mnuhmnuh i think espanol the most beautiful language. but that's just me. eof.
00:06<annadane>rob_debian, paste.debian.net
00:06<reboot>The best to learn mathematical logic, technology, debian, science, music
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00:06<reboot>better learn art close combat, technology in genetics and electronic technology
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00:08<annadane>i hope grep lists the entire entry
00:09<annadane>i'm not sure if it does actually but whatever, cross that bridge when we get to it
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00:09*mnuhmnuh reboot: imbecile! archimedes was not spanish! idiot. :-)
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00:11<annadane>anyway rob the point is just to find out what got automatically pulled in with 4.15 and (probably) remove those packages, should be safe enough, it really should only be the compiler left at this stage
00:11<reboot>arquimedes not if I know that I am Ecuadorian, not Spanish
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00:13<reboot>you know why I messed up the repositories for having xchat hahahaha good if I reinstall it will no longer exist xchat
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00:16<mnuhmnuh>re-install can hide many/any/all? sins. execute, make it so, the green button!
00:16<annadane>stupidity doesn't disappear with the green button
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00:17<annadane>i should know, i've done approximately 40 or so debian reinstalls...
00:17<annadane>still the same hopeless basket-case
00:19<mnuhmnuh>your green button is mis-connected. "There should be an Earth shattering KABOOM!" -- Bugs Bunny.
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00:50<rob_debian>please, annadane, I was absent here. the outuput for zless:https://paste.debian.net/1020216/
00:51<annadane>rob_debian, okay, you see where it says "apt-get install linux-image-4.15.0-1-amd64" - find that entry in the history.log (should be near the bottom or you can find it depending on your terminal with control + shift + f) and post the output
00:53<annadane>unless grep has a way to see full entries, i should check the manpage
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00:58<annadane>-E doesn't quite cut it sadly
00:58<annadane>well it might
00:58<annadane>better to just have the whole thing though
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04:29<Just-K>How are you every one
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04:31<arto>Fine thanks
04:31<Just-K>very good
04:31<Just-K>what about this chat ?
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04:32<arto>Bit slow during american night
04:32<Just-K>hmmm
04:33<Just-K>all pepple here use linux ?
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04:33<arto>Just-K, well, this is Debian channel
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04:34<Just-K>can i talk here ?
04:34<Just-K>if yes i talk about what pleas ?
04:35<arto>Just-K: if it is something about Debian
04:35<Just-K>very nice arto
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04:35<Just-K>ok, i want to ask you
04:36<arto>Just-K: please, welcome
04:36<Just-K>about VNC on Debian
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04:36<Just-K>can you help me about this
04:36<arto>Just-K: what is your problem?
04:37<Just-K>my problem is when i use meterpreter i can not use vnc
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04:39<Just-K>are you here Arto ?
04:40<arto>Just-K: I have no experience of meterpreter, seems it something like a firewall or
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04:42<Just-K>hmmm
04:42<Just-K>Thank you Arto
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04:43<arto>Just-K: you are welcome :)
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04:43<Just-K>:)
04:43<arto>Just-K: problem seems to meterpreter and its config, vnc needs open port
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04:44<Just-K>port is 5555 or 4444 ?
04:46<arto>Just-K: vnc port is in your vnc-program on its config
04:46<Just-K>hmmmm
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04:46<Just-K>I see
04:46<arto>Just-K: you should make the same port open in meterpreter (if it is what I guess)
04:46<Just-K>good
04:46<Just-K>so
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04:47<Just-K>if i want upgrade kali linux system how can i do it wthout apt-get update and upgrade ?
04:48<arto>Just-K: kali is not debian, and kali is used for professionals for penetration testing only
04:49<Just-K>i use kali with debian also
04:49<arto>Just-K: that's ok, but this channel is for debian only
04:49<Just-K>hmmmm
04:49<Just-K>I see
04:50<Just-K>Thank you Arto
04:50<arto>Just-K: no problem
04:50<Just-K>How can I Joine kali channel ?
04:51<arto>Just-K: just one more question of kali, check kali web site and so on
04:51<Just-K>ok
04:51<Just-K>Thank you Arto
04:52<arto>Just-K: you are welcome, again
04:52<Just-K>^_^
04:53<Just-K>Arto
04:53<Just-K>is you Admin here ?
04:54<Just-K>Are you
04:54<arto>Just-K: i'm not, but that kali question is raised quite often here and in debian user forums
04:55<Just-K>good man
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04:56<arto>Just-K: you are, it's ok to ask, but we debian users concentrate on debian, there are about 130 debian derivatives, kali is one of them
04:56<Just-K>Aha
04:57<Just-K>I understand now
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09:07<live>hi all, today 3 debian installs cannot access the network (ping 'gateway'= network is unreachable) centos install on same hardware still works fine. ISP claim no changes to their network or router settings, any ideas? cheers
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11:22<minikdo>hi, how to switch ctrl and fn in console?
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11:27<spacebug[m]1>minikdo: checkout manual for keymaps: man 5 keymaps
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11:28<minikdo>spacebug[m]1: I've tried xmodmap, but it doesn't work with those keys
11:29<minikdo>xev shows the keycode have changes, but there is no effect
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11:30<spacebug[m]1>of you are in X
11:31<minikdo>now, yes
11:31<spacebug[m]1>and you are not not using wayland?
11:31<minikdo>I couldn't switch that in X, so I thought about lower level
11:31<minikdo>no
11:32<spacebug[m]1>in X it should be xmodmap
11:33<minikdo>spacebug[m]1: there is, but it doesn't work
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11:41<spacebug[m]1>Hum. For me xev also shows keys are changed but nothging happens. But I'm using wayland so thats probably why
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11:41<spacebug[m]1>My other computer is running clean X. I can test there later
11:47<minikdo>spacebug[m]1: oki thanks
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11:50<spacebug[m]1>I tried that now and I was able to remap my right control key to insted be left Window key
11:50<spacebug[m]1>xmodmap -e "keycode 105 = Super_L"
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11:50<spacebug[m]1>that keyboard had a fn key but nothing was sent to xev when fn key was pressed. (I think thats only internal to the keyboard. Nothing is ever sent to the OS)
11:51<minikdo>my fn gives me now: keycode 151 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L)
11:51<minikdo>but no effect
11:53<spacebug[m]1>how do you test that it does not work?
11:55<spacebug[m]1>run command cat and then precc fn+c
11:55<spacebug[m]1>press*
11:55<spacebug[m]1>sorry I have to leave now. BBL
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12:06<live>hi all stretch will not connect to the network (3 instances) neither will the stretch net install medium, but the testing medium will connect to the network instantly, any ideas cheers
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12:11<flappy>oh, lovely
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13:05<smokals>ello!
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13:06<annadane>hi smokals
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13:37<spacebug[m]1>live: Might be that you have such new network card that the kernel/drivers shipped with stretch does not support them, but the kernel/drivers in testing does.
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14:54<nmschulte>When looking at the changelog for apt packages, does the date necessarily coincide with the time the package makes it to the archive?
14:54<zgh>https://www.xtraclass.org/index.php/Main_Page
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14:55<nmschulte>for example, on Sid, which I upgrade on a weekly or sometimes daily basis, I see bluez has an upgrade available, but the changelog from the maintainer is dated mid March.
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15:03<bremner>that's just the bluez maintainer making a mistake
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15:04<bremner>changelog is just a file. There are some checks, but I guess date in the past isn't one. Or the maintainer ignored the warning
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15:05<nmschulte>or it got hungup along the way to archive?
15:05<bremner>oh, it might have been in NEW
15:05<nmschulte>anyway, dating of package release is something I find annoying: there's no actual timestamp for a release
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15:06<nmschulte>in theory the date is irrelevant because the contents of the package should be the same (e.g. reproducible builds), but w/ versioning schemes, I think it would be helpful
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15:11<parrot>hi
15:11<sney>!parrot
15:11<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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15:14<nmschulte>oh joy.
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15:16<annadane>can we just change the entire topic to "GO AWAY!"?
15:17<nmschulte>I clearly don't idle enough -- is that not uncommon?
15:17<nmschulte>(user named parrot implying looking for support for Parrot?)
15:18<annadane>it's relatively uncommon, it's just that oftc is full of "tell me how to hack someone's gmail" or "hi, i'm using kali/parrot and..." or "hi; anyone here? anyone here?? anyone here??? anyone here????" or "hi" followed by leaving 15 seconds later
15:18<annadane>it's not that there are _no_ legitimate questions, but...
15:19<arto>and earlier today one asked about kali: my suggestion #DEBIAN (not any 130 derivatives!) A little longish...
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15:26<nmschulte>lol, what if they'd had a Debian Q and you just put 'em off?
15:26<nmschulte>I mean... not really your problem. But otherwise, sney is like omnipotent or something.
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15:27<sney>what
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15:27<parrot>hi
15:27<annadane>hi parrot, do you have a debian question?
15:27<arto>well, this guy quicky announced, that he also uses debian, but asked about kali...
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15:28<parrot>Howcome I didn't get an imemdiate !parrot thrown my way?
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15:28<nmschulte>that's all I mean.
15:28<sney>this is a weird hill to die on
15:28<arto>too much talk about 3rd person, I'll leave
15:28<nmschulte>don't take it the wrong way, I'm just impressed at how effective you were is all
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15:29<nmschulte>it must be common, or have happened before, that users join "anonymously" with the name of the distro they're interested in asking Q about.
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15:30<nmschulte>I'm just impressed. :)
15:30<sney>yeah, multiple times a week at the very least
15:30<annadane>no you're right, it's better not to just blindly throw commands around
15:30<annadane>i stopped using !ask because someone said it was rude
15:30<annadane>and they're not wrong
15:31<sney>that might have been me. but it's an entirely different situation when it's someone joining with the default username from a "h4x0r" livecd, than it is when it's possibly an actual debian user with a relevant question
15:32<nmschulte>Aha! that's the key I was missing.
15:32<sney>nobody running backtrack/kali/parrot/etc has ever had a relevant question in the years I've seen them join here.
15:32<nmschulte>I'm glad Debian doesn't default a uname like that.
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15:33<nmschulte>I've been using only Debian for too long it seems :)
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19:07<Snythea>How can I disable cache in bind9?
19:10<Psi-Jack>Snythea: Better question: Why would you /want/ to?
19:12<Snythea>Psi-Jack, because for a certain zone it connects to a server that changes often the dns responses
19:12<Psi-Jack>Fix /that/.
19:13<Snythea>I cannot fix that
19:13<Psi-Jack>Care to ellaborate on the overall situation?
19:13<Snythea>What means "ellaborate"?
19:14<Psi-Jack>Explain with detail.
19:14<Snythea>The dns is the tor virtual dns for onion, so I shouldn't cache DNS responses
19:15<Psi-Jack>Ah, Tor. Nevermind.
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19:38<jc>tor just returns what ever dns the current exit node is using. could be anything.
19:39<jc>but no reason not to cache it if you trust it in the first place.
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19:42<blast007>should the .onion domains be hitting a normal DNS server at all?
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19:47<jc>no, they never reach an exit node.
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20:03<Snythea>blast007, if you want them to be disponsable in your network or on your pc why not?
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20:07<blast007>Snythea: what I mean is, I wouldn't think the .onion domains should get passed to bind9 at all.
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20:08<Snythea>blast007, why?
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20:12<linuxlite>spanis?
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20:14<blast007>Snythea: guess I'd think that tor would intercept that itself
20:15<drakonis>hmm, how do i rqeuest an package update?
20:15<drakonis>request
20:15<drakonis>even
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20:17<drakonis>something like elixir is too big for me
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20:20<blast007>Snythea: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#WarningsAboutSOCKSandDNSInformationLeaks https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#AccessOnionServices
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20:56<Snythea>blast007, In my configuration TOR is called only for .onion, and bind in fact doesn't "resolve" them, only asks to TOR what virtual ip address respond to that .onion
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21:16<bremner>drakonis: you can file a wishlist bug using reportbug, but be aware that updates to stable are pretty rare.
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21:18<drakonis>i'm on unstable you see
21:18<drakonis>i brought it up on #debian-next as well
21:19<bremner>ok. well, this channel is about stable.
21:20<drakonis>i'm aware
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22:22<kb3ien>are debian netboot images on the ftp site?
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22:35<awal1>kb3ien, all what you need about debian images https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/
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22:38<kb3ien>yep. I saw some discussion about broken isos not installing, https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2018/04/msg00006.html probabyy i got a broken iso last time.
22:38<kb3ien>downloading a new iso, hoping for the best.
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22:42<themill>netboot ≠ netinst
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