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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-04-20

---Logopened Fri Apr 20 00:00:37 2018
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02:17<umbridge>Hi guys! Can you recommend a very lightweight (but also secure) browser for a very old i686 laptop? If an adblocker were available it'd be ideal. So far, I've been using Chromium, which runs much faster than Firefox.
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02:58<kj>hello everyone
02:59<kj>anyone please tell me what is the best way to create my own distribution
03:00<jm_>try some other channel for that, this channel is used for help with debian only
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05:07<misaka00251>Hello, so I'm using debootstrap to install debian stretch, but i'm stuck at chroot...
05:09<misaka00251>https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MYqd3vxtDS/ Here is my installation process, and when it chroot, everything just not working
05:11<misaka00251>got a 'I have no name!' and whoami says 'cannot find name for user ID 0'...
05:12<blaztek>misaka00251: maybe you need/etc
05:13<blaztek> Need /etc/passwd in the /mnt/debinst
05:13<misaka00251>bind /etc ?
05:13<misaka00251>hmm...
05:14<misaka00251>there is a /etc/passwd after debian installation
05:14<chele>is there a way to search with apt search and show similar compact output as from aptitude search ~i ?
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05:15<blaztek>misaka00251: then just copy and paste the root line to the chroot
05:15<blaztek>misaka00251: good point
05:16<misaka00251>gonna try that
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05:18<misaka00251>Oh no there isn't a /etc/passwd in the /mnt/debinst... :/
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05:19<blaztek>misaka00251: create one
05:19<blaztek>Hold on...
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05:20<blaztek>root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
05:21<chele>found it. to search into installed packages use apt list --installed <packagename>
05:22<misaka00251>that works :D
05:22<misaka00251>but none of 'apt' 'nano' 'curl' is working...
05:23<misaka00251>always command not found
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05:25<blaztek>misaka00251: wow. Maybe you have to copy those over too. Hopefully someone with more experience can help as well.
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05:25<misaka00251>hmm
05:26<misaka00251>Well, thank you for helping me :D
05:26<blaztek>misaka00251: you’re welcome
05:27<blaztek>misaka00251: you can also try the #debian channel on freenode
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05:28<misaka00251>ok then
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09:02<fuzzylaw>Hey, my system crashes when I install a nvidia-driver, It shows the "Oh no page". I am on debain 9.4
09:03<fuzzylaw>From my previous convo here I was told to update the kernel but even that did not help
09:03<fuzzylaw>It still crashes
09:03<fuzzylaw>According to the docs when I type lspci -nn | egrep -i "3d|display|vga", It shows both intel and nvidia
09:04<lupine>I had this
09:04<fuzzylaw>But running nvidia-detect shows no GPU detected
09:04<fuzzylaw>How do I overcome this error?
09:04<lupine>right, the nvidia is a "3D controller", right?
09:04<fuzzylaw>Yeah
09:06<lupine>it was either a missing package or a group permissions problem, I'm not sure which fixed it
09:06<fuzzylaw>Should I just add my user to sudoers?
09:07<blast007>fuzzylaw: is this an laptop?
09:07<blast007>a*
09:07<fuzzylaw>Yeah
09:07<blast007>might be an optimus system then
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09:07<fuzzylaw>Nope It's not an optimus system
09:07<blast007>!optimus
09:07<dpkg>The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net.
09:08<blast007>check the lspci command there
09:08<fuzzylaw>Yeah it gives two lines
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09:09<fuzzylaw>I was wrong, It is optimus enabled
09:09<blast007>so check out that wiki page then
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09:10<blast007>sounds like one thing you won't want to do is allow the nvidia driver to create an xorg.conf file
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09:25<fuzzylaw>Thanks, seems to work. I will restart and check.
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09:36<fuzzylaw>Ah I totally crashed my system after reboot, It shows the "oh no" thing again
09:36<fuzzylaw>I removed all the nvidia drivers and now it boots up fine
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09:39<olspookishmagus>!java
09:39<dpkg>Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>, <java-package>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net.
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13:47<dionisius>Hi all! I am trying to install *snx* on Debian Stretch, but I am having problems with the libraries... I know that on Ubuntu I can do "apt install libstdc++5:i386 libpam0g:i386 libx11-6:i386", but it doesn't work on Debian... Any ideias on how to install those libs?
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13:48<dionisius>(I believe it has to be the 32-bit libs)
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13:49<retrospectacus>what's snx
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13:50<ejr>is it possible to run a window manager/X on one of my dual monitor and a framebuffer/tty on the second?
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13:51<retrospectacus>dionisius: did you do `dpkg --add-architecture i386` ? How does it "not work"?
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13:52<dionisius>retrospectacus: it is a vpn client
13:54<dionisius>retrospectacus: i didn't try it. Checking it right now. (I wasn't familiar with that, but thank you for the suggestion)
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13:54<retrospectacus>then apt-get update
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14:00<dionisius_>retrospectacus: worked perfectly And today I learned about add-arch. My sincere thanks. Have a great one :D
14:00<retrospectacus>Great! have fun
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14:08<jimpop>is racoon still the way to do ipsec in stable?
14:09<jimpop>w.d.o/IPsec is a bit dated..
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14:38<shmeem>hello world
14:38<poogle>Hi, I have a USB stick that when I mount it is owned by root, and I can't write it. Is the correct way to fix this to just chown myuser:myuser /media/myuser/path_to_device? I just wasn't clear if there is a better way to do this, and if the group should be myuser or root
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14:39<poogle>also, is there any way to just make it so that when I insert a new usb stick it's owned by my user? or is that a bad idea?
14:40<petn-randall>poogle: Depends on the FS on it.
14:40<poogle>ext4
14:40<petn-randall>poogle: In that case just fix the permissions once, and you're good.
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14:41<poogle>ok, thanks
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15:05<poogle>petn-randall, When I changed the user:group to my username, and then inserted the drive I cannot write the drive from thunar/xfce but can write from bash. For instance, I can do 'touch foo.txt' in root directory of USB stick, and can see foo.txt in thunar file manager, but I can't delete from thunar because delete/move to trash are greyed out as if it's stil read only
15:06<petn-randall>poogle: Both as the same user?
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15:07<poogle>yes, I did 'sudo chown -R jess:jess /media/jess/baf43928493849284923' and am logged into X as user 'jess' as well
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15:09<poogle>petn-randall, Hmmm ... just noticed that user permissions are set to rwx but group to r-x ... does it need to be rwx for group too for user to write?
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15:11<arto>mine usb-stick: drwxr-xr-x
15:12<arto>so no need to group write
15:12<petn-randall>poogle: no
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15:13<arto>poogle: ls -la /media/YOU/stick, who owns . (first line)
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15:15<poogle>arto, drwxr-xr-x 3 jess jess 4096 Apr 20 12:03 .
15:15<arto>poogle, same as mine, what fs is your usb-stick formatted?
15:15<poogle>ext4
15:15<jc>that's prettt weird unless thunar is running as another user
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15:16<arto>poogle: for reason..? I Use fat16 on removable media
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15:17<poogle>arto, I only use this stick at home to transfer between linux systems ... but no particular reason I'm attached to ext4 specifically
15:18<arto>poogle: can you handle file trough bash: cd /media/jess/stick, and cp file to there
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15:18<jhutchins_wk>poogle: What you need to do is put an entry in the fstab that specifies the permissions.
15:18<jhutchins_wk>I don't know where or why the decision was made to mount media read-only by default.
15:18<arto>poogle:ext4 of course on hdd, but on flash on my mind bit of overkil
15:19<poogle>arto, Yes, I can copy/write/rename/remove files in the stick from the command line
15:19<poogle>jc, How would I tell if thunar is running as a different user. I couldn't find it in ps aux
15:19<poogle>jhutchins_wk, OK, I'll look into that - thanks
15:19<arto>poogle: but thunar not?
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15:19<arto>ps aux | grep thunar
15:20<poogle>arto, Yes - thunar greys out all options like rename, cut, delete, move to trash etc and treats as a read-only directory.
15:21<arto>ps aux grep Thunar, sorry!
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15:22<poogle>arto, ah that's why I could find it ... I tried ps aux | grep thunar but didn't catch it because of the case ... thanks :)
15:22<poogle>arto - but both Thunar processes are running as the same user 'jess' that can write from command line
15:22<poogle>jess 26374 0.0 0.0 12904 1064 pts/2 S+ 12:21 0:00 grep Thunar
15:22<jc>are you sure it's not a thunar setting?
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15:22<arto>poogle: something odd going
15:23<arto>poogle: i'd suggest umounting the stikc, logoff, login and try again
15:25<arto>poogle: and if you stil want to use ext on usb-stick, ext3 would be better
15:26<poogle>jc, Not sure, I looked through the very minimal volume management settings Thunar had in Preferences, but couldn't find anything that seemed related to mounting read/write
15:26<arto>poogle: but try that logoff -login, if that does nothing
15:26<poogle>arto, will do ... brb
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15:27<arto>poogle: it'is not in thunar settings, xfce mounts
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15:29<poogle>arto, Indeed that fixed it ... seems like some kinda bug though, having to redo permissions and logout/in every time I want to use a new stick ... oh well - thanks for your help!
15:29<arto>poogle: good thing happens sometimes :)
15:32<arto>poogle: and if it still happens, maybe change fs, and check xfce => settings => removable media, and ticks in all first five
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15:35<arto>poogle: and if you buy a new stick, that definetely is not ext4 formatted
15:35<poogle>arto, why is ext3 better for usb stick than ext4 btw?
15:36<arto>poogle: journal wears sdd sooner
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15:37<poogle>arto, oh - I didn't realize that. does that apply to the SSD in my laptop too? or only type of SSD used in USB sticks?
15:38<arto>poogle: and all in all, ext is not so efficient in smal disks, lik usb sticks typically are
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15:40<arto>poogle: only usb disks, i have ext4 on my laptop sdd too, trim enabled
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15:41<arto>and ssd that was ...
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15:52<warloc>wine: Bad EXE format for....any solution
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15:54<warloc>am trying to install..wine any windows application but all give the same result Bad EXE format
15:54<dboles>32/64 bit mismatch maybe? (i have no idea whether wine handles that transparently)
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