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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-04-27

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01:35<ach>a short question when dist-upgrade exits unexceptly apt-get install or dist-upgrade?
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01:39<somiaj>how did it exit? What part of the process did it exit in? Downloading packages, or configuring packages?
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01:39<ach>configuring remove systemd
01:40<somiaj>did you explicity ask to remove systemd?
01:40<somiaj>what version of debian are you running?
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01:41<somiaj>anyways, you can reconfigure all unconfigured packages, dpkg --configure -a, you can try to do the dist-upgrade again, but if a dist-upgrade is removing systemd, sounds like something else is wrong.
01:41<ach>removeing anyway as you requested from jessie to stretch
01:42<somiaj>dist upgrade from jessie to stretch should not remove systemd
01:42<somiaj>(unless you have some strange pinning or explicity asked it to)
01:42<ach>i do dist upgrade again?
01:43<somiaj>or apt -f install
01:44<somiaj>there are various things you could do, and part of it depends on what part was intruptied. But as I said, it sounds like you have deeper problems in your system with this upgrade.
01:44<ach>ok
01:44<ach>pre-removal script has the failure?
01:46<somiaj>If you want some more help, share some actual output at paste.debian.net, but as I said, it sounds like you have some issue with your sources.list and or package database if systemd is being removed.
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01:47<ach>at moment i can't even open gedit to paste the error
01:49<somiaj>!pastebinit
01:49<dpkg>A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
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01:50<somiaj>ach: it sounds like you have removed some important packages and your system might be fairly broken. Depending on your knowledge of debian, a backup/reinstall of stretch maybe far easier (and give you a nicer state for your system) then trying to fix this.
01:51<ach>cu
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03:39<pene>hello
03:40<pene>how are you
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04:01<ach>ok
04:02<arto>sure
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04:04<ach>it's my mind
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05:43<gonzalo>hi!! it is posibble to have a system with multiple architecture different kernels?
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05:47<arto>gonzalo:; multiarch suppport, for example I have amd64 and i386
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05:50<gonzalo>arto:; one kernel with multiarch support, no? but I need 2 kernels (amd64 and i386) in the same system...
05:51<arto>gonzalo: naturally both systems need their own kernel
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05:54<arto>gonzalo: in my case you can't run i386 programs on amd64 debian, if you don't have mulitarch suppport and i386 kernel
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05:56<gonzalo>arto: my question is, can I have a computer with 2 differents kernel? kernel1=amd64 and kernel2=i386? and only one system? Is possible? I think no...
05:57<arto>gonalo:; why you insist on kernels, run other virtually how many you like
05:59<arto>gonzalo: but as i said, it is impossible to run i386 compiled in amd64 kernel without multiarch, and multiarch pulls kernel and modules when installed
06:01<gonzalo>arto: thanks a lot!! is a client's question...!! ;) And I think it's impossible what he wants
06:02<arto>ls
06:02<arto> ls
06:03<arto>sorry, wrong window
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06:09<arto>gonzalo: yes, without virtualization, but that is not same kernel, but whan kernel hosting virtual kernel
06:09<arto>one kernel hosting...
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09:18<traumschule>can someone please verify that the registration mail feature works for wiki.debian.org?
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09:19<tesko>anyone know how to get rid of the google to yahoo firefox browser hijack? i cant even look at my browser addons without it going straight to google
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09:54<nicolas17>is de.archive.ubuntu.com down or just me?
09:55<arto>debian is no ubuntu
09:55<nicolas17>... I need sleep
09:56<nicolas17>I know debian is no ubuntu but I didn't even realize that said ubuntu
09:56*nicolas17 crawls back under his rock
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11:57<lhvf[m]>Hello. I tried to contact via PM on IRC (both Freenode and OFTC.net Networks), but the LaMont Jones Debian / Ubuntu Maintainer only read my messages from PM Freenode Chat Room, and don't responded. What is the best way to stay in contact with Debian LTS Team (for Wheezy, nowadays), and Security Repository Tracker?
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11:58<bremner>!lts
11:58<dpkg>Debian Long Term Support (LTS) is a project to extend the lifetime of all Debian stable releases to (at least) 5 years. Debian LTS is not handled by the Debian security team, but by a separate group of volunteers and companies. Ask me about <wheezy-lts> and see https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net.
11:58<bremner>!wheezy-lts
11:58<dpkg>Security support for Debian 7 "Wheezy" from the Debian Security Team ended on 2016-04-25. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive additional long term support (LTS) via <wheezy/updates> until 2018-05-31. See http://deb.li/2aC for excluded packages. No changes to /etc/apt/sources.list are needed for wheezy-lts.
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11:59<petn-randall>lhvf[m]: Why do you need to contact him privately? I'd go with the official channels. Also a reason you need to contact that specific person?
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12:01<lhvf[m]>Hello. I tried to contact via PM on IRC (both Freenode and OFTC.net Networks), but the LaMont Jones Debian / Ubuntu Maintainer only read my messages from PM Freenode Chat Room, and don't responded. What is the best way to stay in contact with Debian LTS Team (for Wheezy, nowadays), and Security Repository Tracker?
12:02<bremner>lhvf[m]: did you read _any_ of the responses to the last time you said that?
12:02<lhvf[m]>Sorry. Here the last message don't registered as sent.
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12:05<lhvf[m]>> lhvf[m]: did you read _any_ of the responses to the last time you said that?
12:05<lhvf[m]>Yes, read.
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12:06<lhvf[m]>The LaMont Jones Developer is the Maintainer of a package of this openned bug ticket that I've open this year: * https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=894180 .
12:06<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/894180 in util-linux (open): «util-linux: Possible still present Bug on "Debian 7/Wheezy" w/ dmesg command on a "SE-208DB/TSBS" External ODD»; severity: minor; opened: 2018-03-27; last modified: 2018-03-28.
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12:07<somiaj>lhvf[m]: wheezy is a frozen system, minor bugs are not going to be fixed.
12:08<bremner>unless you want to sponsor the LTS team, but even then there's only 1 month left of LTS support
12:09<somiaj>even in that case, does policy allow fixing of minor bugs in stable, oldstable, oldoldstable? I thought only security issues and some grave bugs got fixed after the release.
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12:10<annadane>there are bug fixes
12:10<bremner>*shrug* I don't know much about how LTS works
12:11<lhvf[m]>He is the responsible to analyse the code of this Library, and to fix this when needed. Someone can change the severity of this my Bug Ticket if necessary.
12:12<somiaj>lhvf[m]: You may want to read up on how debian development works. Most of the bug effort is in testing/unstable. Once released, stable gets security fixes and some select bug fixes (and these are bugs that are considered serious/grave enough to warnt a fix in the frozen release)
12:12<bremner>lhvf[m]: you got the part of only one month of LTS support remaining right?
12:13<somiaj>In general if a bug is found in stable (unless it is considered grave enough), the report causes the testing/unstable package to be fixed, and is only in special cases backported to stable.
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12:16<lhvf[m]>> lhvf[m]: you got the part of only one month of LTS support remaining right?
12:16<lhvf[m]>Correct. It's my connection being unstable at my side.
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12:17<bremner>I have to run now, but I did not see any security impact there, just some missing functionality?
12:19<bremner>tbh, I couldn't really understand the bug report. I suspect it probably refers to a kernel bug, but then util-linux is the wrong package
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12:20<lhvf[m]>The Bug, as my Report, in the same version of the package doesn't exists on Ubuntu, but exists on Debian.
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12:21<annadane>if you actually look at https://www.debian.org/News/2018/20180310 a few of those bug fixes aren't trivial
12:22<annadane>but yes i get the general approach
12:24<petn-randall>lhvf[m]: Does you bug have a security impact that justifies it getting it fixed within the last month of still having support? If the answer is "no", you can close the bug report. If it's "yes", you're still missing the justification.
12:25<bremner>!br
12:25<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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12:25<bremner>lhvf[m]: maybe the people on #debian-br can help you explain the bug better, in case this is a problem expressing things in Englishe.
12:25<lhvf[m]>> tbh, I couldn't really understand the bug report. I suspect it probably refers to a kernel bug, but then util-linux is the wrong package
12:25<lhvf[m]>The bug is the read (Reported by "dmesg" command) points to a wrong Speed Read Rate (62X in the common USB barrier for External ODDs It's completely impossible). Ubuntu, with the same doesn't presents this issue. util-linux is the package of 'dmesg', right?
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12:26<bremner>so, you're complaining about a silly message in the logs that you could just ignore?
12:26<petn-randall>lhvf[m]: Ok, that's a cosmetic bug at best. However, LTS *only* gets security bugfixes, and even only for a month. So feel free to close that bug.
12:26<bremner>also, you don't need to quote in irc
12:28<lhvf[m]>> lhvf[m]: Does you bug have a security impact that justifies it getting it fixed within the last month of still having support? If the answer is "no", you can close the bug report. If it's "yes", you're still missing the justification.
12:28<lhvf[m]>The TSST-Corp driver for this Model is bad, only in windows I could burn propperly with this External ODD.
12:28<mnuhmnuh>and dmesg is just the message's reporter. it's doing what it's supposed to do.
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12:30<petn-randall>lhvf[m]: Stop quoting in IRC.
12:30<mnuhmnuh>journalctl would likely mention it too.
12:31<mnuhmnuh>network latency? i thought they had.
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12:33<lhvf[m]>The justification is the incorrect / unpropperly disc handling of Optical Discs, maybe. When the ODDs worked to burn, I cannot burnt it on a DVD+DL Medium propperly. Today for burnings this External ODD is broken, only reads, and TSST-Corp discontinued the sector of ODDs.
12:33<petn-randall>lhvf[m]: Again, this has *zero* security impact. Try upgrading to stable and see if that fixes your problem.
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12:38<mnuhmnuh>lhvf[m]: you recognize the diff between proprietary and open? that thing is _proprietary_. debian goes as far as offering firmware blobs. aptitude search firmware
12:39<lhvf[m]>"and dmesg is just the message's reporter. it's doing what it's supposed to do." With "62X" of Read Speed Rate, something is clearly going wrong with this package compilation. Ubuntu with same package version, primarily based on Debian, doesn't have such bug / issue. Could Debian borrow Ubuntu compilation instead, for a fix?
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12:40<petn-randall>lhvf[m]: If you continue quoting on IRC I'll mute you. Stop it. Last warning.
12:41<bejebeever>hello! can I ask here a support question for debian?
12:41<sney>bejebeever: please
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12:41<petn-randall>lhvf[m]: Also reporting 62x is not wrong. It's simply the speed the device reports back. If you expect it to magically know the interface speed and adjust that value accordingly, you have wrong expectations.
12:41<bejebeever>I am trying to wake my Thinkpad with my usb mouse or keyboard and not managing it...
12:42<mnuhmnuh>lhvf[m]: you don't quote irc! :-| your prob. is with Read Speed Rate on _some device_. *that* might be reportable. you're blaming the messenger, dmesg.
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12:42<bejebeever>I have also posted a question on superuser.com... can I paste the link here? as there are all the details?
12:42<lhvf[m]>"lhvf[m]: Again, this has *zero* security impact. Try upgrading to stable and see if that fixes your problem." Jessie, the best release, doesn't have such Bug / issue.
12:42<arto>bejebeever: do so please
12:42<bejebeever>https://superuser.com/questions/1317203/can-i-make-my-latptop-running-debian-resume-from-suspend-with-usb-mouse-or-keybo
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12:44<bejebeever>whooo is a loooong time since I did not used iRC :D
12:45<arto>bejebeer: my last time was 36 year ago...
12:45<bejebeever>I feel old... second time for today... first time was when I saw the iCQ logo on pidgin... :D
12:45<bejebeever>yep... something like this... decades by me also :)))
12:46<arto>bejebeer: miscalculation, irc did not exist in '90:s, it more like 26, but this is offtopic
12:47<bejebeever>suddently I need to get out for a while but i will leave the chat open and will try to read it when I will come back... sorry and thanks!
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12:48<mnuhmnuh>arto: messageing was confined to pagers and landline answering systems back then.
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12:49<jhutchins>IRC existed fairly early in the 90's, 92 or 93.
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12:49<arto>muhmnuh: i remember were well when this thing we call internet took it's first steps
12:50<jhutchins>Pretty sure it existed in the accademic internet before it went public.
12:50<arto>jhutchins: i know, Jarkko Oikarinen wrote it, he is Finn, like I
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12:50<bremner>this sure would be suitable for #debian-offtopic ...
12:50<arto>jhutchins: i was at uni then
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12:51<arto>bremner: so are so right
12:51<arto>you are so right
12:53<mnuhmnuh>it existed for me when someone demanded mosaic installed.
12:54<mnuhmnuh>til then, it had been the net.
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13:23<bejebeever>I am back
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13:23<bejebeever>but nothing new... :(
13:23<bejebeever>would somebody have any recommendation where I could look for additional help on the topic, or patience is a virtue?
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13:25<bejebeever>and another small question: now I entered through webchat... does anybody has any iRC client recommendation for debian?
13:25<arto>benebeever: usb wake up requires bios support, have you enabled that?
13:26<bejebeever>its working in windows... that's how I realized that I am missing it
13:26<arto>bejebeever: i use hexchat
13:26<mnuhmnuh>bejebeever: irssi
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13:27<bejebeever>arto: thanks!
13:27<bejebeever>mnuhmnuh: thanks!
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13:40<jhutchins>bejebeever: Second irssi (in screen).
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13:42<jhutchins>bejebeever: I would definitely look through the BIOS settings for USB, keyboard, and mouse. Sometimes there's a "legacy" mode that helps.
13:43<jhutchins>I use wireless keyboards and mice and don't have any problem, but my systems don't really go to full sleep mode.
13:43<jhutchins>bejebeever: In fact, I've known sleep modes to require a power button press to wake.
13:43<bejebeever>jhutchins: thanks, i will now go down under :D
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13:45<bejebeever>jhutchins: i am referring to suspend from power manager
13:45<bejebeever>manually I am also invoking it with systemctl suspend with the same result
13:45<bejebeever>is there any other "sleep mode"?
13:46<arto>bejebeever: there is some variation, but usually S3 is called suspend, and S4 hibernate
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13:48<bejebeever>and where can is see them? the alternative with cat /proc/acpi/wakeup I understood is deprecated
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13:48<bejebeever>and anyway I did not manage to add any of the usb buses there...
13:49<arto>bejebeever: these are bios settings, but linux supports then fully, I use hibernate, which saves image to disk, and goes power down
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13:51<bejebeever>ok, thanks will check the bios
13:52<bejebeever>can i afterwards check the status in the os?
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13:53<arto>bejebeever: change one thing in bios, check if does help
13:53<bejebeever>this looks like the microsoft solution... :D
13:54<arto>bejebeever: its's hw, not microsoft
13:55<arto>bejebeever: you can surely do many changes, but then you can't know what did and what
13:55<jhutchins>The implementation of suspend-to-ram and suspend-to-disk is not implemented in any standard way by manufacturers. There are conventions, but no standards, which makes it hard for Linux to support all possible variations.
13:56<bejebeever>"looks like" are the key words here
13:57<bejebeever>otherwise thanks for the info... I was expecting to be able to see somewhere the S3 / S4 status of the USB hubs in linux...
13:57<bejebeever>as right now I cannot see is... or I do not know how...
13:57<arto>bejebeever: i'd first check legacy mode
13:59<arto>bejeveever: in linux theŕe are no bells and jingles when something is succesful, your goal is to wake up computer using mouse or keyboard
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14:02<bejebeever>ok guys! thanks for the suggestions... I will go under now!
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14:04<hubot_>hi! i can't send mails on my vps. i use postfix and dovecot
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14:05<arto>hubot_: do you get any errors?
14:06<hubot_>sorry for mistake, i can send but i can't receive
14:07<hubot_>arto, http://dpaste.com/1NM1NM1
14:07<arto>hubot_: usually it's easier to read than send
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14:08<arto>hubot_: Permission denied
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14:09<hubot_>how can i fix it?
14:09<arto>hubot: that tell's quite much
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14:10<arto>hubot_: ls -la for every file /etc/postfix/pgsql-boxes.cf ....
14:11<hubot_>-rw------- 1 root root 110 Apr 24 20:59 /etc/postfix/pgsql-aliases.cf
14:11<hubot_>boxes the same
14:11<hubot_>-rw------- 1 root root 110 Apr 24 20:59 /etc/postfix/pgsql-boxes.cf
14:11<arto>hubot: so only root can read those, that's tight policy
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14:12<arto>hubot_: try chmod 644 as root for every *.cf
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14:14<arto>hubot_: chmod 644 filename (that as root 3 times)
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14:18<hubot_>arto, i'm getting error Recipient address rejected: User u
14:18<hubot_>nknown in local recipient table
14:18<arto>hubot_: what did you do before that?
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14:19<hubot_>chmod 644 filename
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14:19<hubot_>chmod 644 /etc/postfix/*.cf
14:20<arto>hubot_: i remember chmod needs r for recusivity
14:21<arto>hubot: yepp chmod -R 644 /etc/postfix/*.cf
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14:23<hubot_>the same error
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14:24<arto>hubot_: Recipient ...
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14:28<hubot_>http://dpaste.com/2MWB3DT
14:31<arto>hubot_: i'd read program documentation or net for exaplanations of those errors
14:31<arto>i must go, bye!
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14:34<sney>hubot_: sometimes postfix is stubborn about reading new changes. I usually 'postfix reload' twice
14:38<hubot_>i did a stupid mistake! i had wrong content of pgsql-boxes.cf
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14:39<hubot_>sney, do you have any ideas how to fix http://dpaste.com/2J2BT95?
14:39<sney>what are your permissions on that file
14:40<hubot_>-rw------- 1 root root 940 Nov 27 22:42 /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02periodic
14:41<ejr>am i right in assuming that I can easily reinstall a list of packages on the same distro after a new installation when I first export them via dpkg --get-selections > out and then, after reinstalling debian, reinstall the packages via dpkg --set-selections < out ?
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14:43<sney>hubot_: chmod og+r the files in that dir then try again. by default they are -rw-r--r--
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14:47<jhutchins>!debian clone
14:47<dpkg>One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ~/selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup> <apt-clone>.
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14:47<jhutchins>ejr: Why not upgrade instead of a new install?
14:47<sney>aptitude clone is a bit better than the get-selections method since it preserves auto-installed info
14:48<jhutchins>!aptitude clone
14:48<dpkg>To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
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14:54<ejr>jhutchins: it's on a separate computer, I want to basically clone my OS (but the hdd size is completely different and as I am using full encryption, adapting that is more of a hassle than just reinstalling I figure)
14:55<ejr>sney & jhutchins: thank you, then I will use aptitude clone instead
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15:18<hubot_>cron job doesn't work * * * * * daemon test -x /usr/bin/debsecan && /usr/bin/debsecan --cron
15:18<hubot_>it don't send email to me
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15:20<mnuhmnuh>is debsecan installed? aptitude search debsecan
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15:23<hubot_>mnuhmnuh, yes
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15:25<sney>what does the mail log say
15:26<hubot_>http://dpaste.com/3R3Q265
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15:29<sney>looks normal to me
15:30<sney>check in dovecot's actual maildir structure, there may be an issue with your client
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16:13<jhutchins>Dovecot sometimes gets confused about whether it's mbox or maildir.
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16:28<mnuhmnuh>anon: try "!hi"
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16:31<mnuhmnuh>i'm trying to get into postgres. it's installed and running, i'm having trouble initializing, creating a db, getting passworded access, ... what do i do before expecting pgadmin3 to work?
16:34<sney>the postgres website has a lot of docs
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16:44<anon>!hi
16:44<dpkg>hello, anon
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16:44<anon>soy yo r-12
16:45<mnuhmnuh>sney: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/tutorial-createdb.html - create mydb ... bash says -bash: create: command not found - pgadmin3 no help.
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16:46<DNS>!es
16:46<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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16:51<mnuhmnuh>-bash: postgresql: command not foun
16:52<mnuhmnuh>-bash: postgres: command not found-bash
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16:53<blast007>mnuhmnuh: https://wiki.debian.org/PostgreSql
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17:02<mnuhmnuh>blast007: tx, that's working. :-)
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17:06<anon>dpkg You already told me the other time
17:06<dpkg>I resemble that remark!
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22:37<Roadrunner_>Hi all
22:37<Roadrunner_>I am running LXQt as the desktop on Buster/Sid
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22:38<Roadrunner_>and trying to add application icons to the desktop.
22:38<Roadrunner_>How would I do it? The right-click does not bring any menu
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23:24<camilo>hello, i just want to make a question, can someone in ubuntu install packages from debian repos?
23:25<camilo>thx in advance :)
23:25<blast007>mixing distributions/releases is generally a bad idea
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23:26<camilo>yep, just read this: 3 down vote accepted Your mileage may vary. I wouldn't do that. It's not only about dependencies problems, but about binary compatibility (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth#What_about_binary_compatibility_between_distributions.3F): Debian packages are likely built with different toolchain versions, so you may incur in troubles.
23:27<camilo>i use debian, but a university partner that use ubuntu want to know if he can install the same packages that are available in debian
23:28<blast007>most software in Debian is also available in Ubuntu
23:29<camilo>sure, i was searching for python-pandas in ubuntu, in this page: https://packages.ubuntu.com
23:30<blast007>which is available in Ubuntu
23:30<camilo>there is any search query for google, that let me learn how to know about if is available packages in official repos?
23:31<blast007>the page you linked lets you search the Ubuntu package repo
23:31<camilo>wausjauw yep, but sometimes there are names changed
23:31<camilo>ahh, ok
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23:36<camilo>hey, thanks for your help :)
23:36<camilo>you are awesome
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