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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-05-07

---Logopened Mon May 07 00:00:01 2018
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00:04-!-dboehmer___ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:08<ach>is dump bastard Hawai shit inhere?
00:08<ach>!hi
00:08<dpkg>hello, ach
00:08<ach>is dump bastard Hawai shit in here?
00:08<ach>is dump bastard Hawai shit in here?
00:08<ach>is dump bastard Hawai shit in here?
00:08<ach>is dump bastard Hawai shit in here?
00:09<ach>is dump bastard Hawai shit in here?
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01:56<ach>pp
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02:20<rob_slackware>Hi
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02:22<malte>hellp
02:22<malte>hello
02:23<rob_slackware>Please is there anyone who knows how to change my nickname to ‘rob_debian’ in iCloud irc app ?
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02:46<ach>Of Course the point of view matters to us!
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02:51<dudertoad>Hello. Could I ask what tells the system what firmware to load during boot?
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02:51<jm_>dudertoad: drivers load it, they know what to look for
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02:51<m3ercury>hello :)
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02:52<dudertoad>jm: What tells the drivers which ones to load? Is there a list?
02:53<jm_>dudertoad: it's in drivers' source code
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02:54<m3ercury>are we Anonymous to each other guys ?
02:55<jm_>more or less
02:55<dudertoad>jm_: Is there a way for me to tell them not to load specific firmware?
02:55<jm_>dudertoad: what is your actual issue?
02:55<m3ercury>i'm not familiar with linux and hack stuff :)
02:56<m3ercury>but i like to discover new things :)
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02:57<m3ercury>jm_ ??
02:57<dudertoad>jm_: during boot I get a "warning" about missing firmware. I looked up the file it's trying to load and am pretty sure it doesn't exist.
02:58<m3ercury>@jm_: how to use this ? i mean bin a name to send em msg in the global chat ?
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03:01<jm_>m3ercury: please read some IRC guide - I don't have the patience to explain it :)
03:01<jm_>dudertoad: which file is it about? try «dmesg | grep firmware»
03:01<m3ercury>ok bro ,, no harm
03:03<dudertoad>jm_: there's more, but this is the one in mind: i915 0000:00:02.0: firmware: failed to load i915/skl_dmc_ver1_27.bin (-2)
03:04<m3ercury>idk what IRC refer to or where to find but thx anyway bro ,, cya all
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03:05<jm_>dudertoad: are you using debian?
03:06<dudertoad>jm_: yes
03:06<jm_>dudertoad: with debian kernel?
03:07<dudertoad>jm_: yes
03:07<jm_>dudertoad: which kernel version is this?
03:08<dudertoad>jm_: 4.16.0-1-amd64
03:11<jm_>dudertoad: ok, for testing/sid use #debian-next; so I checked and debian only has skl_dmc_ver1_26.bin for now - wait for a new version of the firmware-misc-nonfree and that one will probably go away
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03:12<dudertoad>jm_: thank you for giving me a hand in understanding this better.
03:13<jm_>no problem
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03:14<winlu>Hey, trying to find out why openjdk8 on stretch does not include jawt.h in the amd64 package but does on other architectures. Without it cmake decides JNI is not available which breaks my builds.
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03:16<jm_>winlu: it does include it -- https://packages.debian.org/stretch/amd64/openjdk-8-jdk/filelist
03:18<winlu>jm_: damn i am using headless
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03:19<winlu>which makes sense that it is not included
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03:29<ach>ok
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03:43<winlu>thanks again jm_ , bye
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05:13<enyc>Hrrm....
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05:14<enyc>Anybody know much about the "apt-check -qq" that seems to happen oautomatically on stretch? It seems to happen all a the SAME TIMe on all my dom0/domU vms runnig stretch, and eats up too much ram all at once and things struggle or fall over [!!!]
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05:18<petn-randall>enyc: There is no such command in stable or testing, AFAICS.
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05:31<enyc>petn-randall: I saw SOMETHING like that in ps / top... I forget EXACTLY. ... there seems to be a /etc/cron.daily/apt-compat and /usr/lib/apt/apt.systemd.daily that may be doing this...
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05:35<petn-randall>enyc: Those are randomized and wouldn't run at the same time. If you find the exact process, let us know.
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05:49<enyc>petn-randall: sort-of ;p on a memory-constrande nad resource-constrained system they ended up all runnig at once and grinding to halt ;p
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05:50<petn-randall>enyc: Right now it's just an assumption of yours. Look up the actual process and what calling it.
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05:54<enyc>petn-randall: okies, what sohuld i be using to do decent job of seeing said process-tree, if/when next time it goes bezerk?
05:55<petn-randall>enyc: 'pstree'?
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07:15<martok>I just installed MX Linux 17.1 on my desktop. I ran Ubuntu/ Kubuntu for 9 years. I have been going crazy trying to find how I can manually rearrange taskbar items. Can someone help me? It's been driving me crazy for a week now.
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07:16<blast007>martok: nope, because we only support Debian here. Try https://mxlinux.org/support
07:17<piper>martok: this is a debian support forum, MX Linux may be based on debian but it is not debian, try MX Linux forums or IRC for support
07:17<martok>Blast007: Sorry, this is the room it automatically puts you in
07:18<blast007>yeah, quite a few distributions don't bother changing the default channel
07:18<martok>OK, thanks
07:19<blast007>judging by that page, they might not even have an IRC channel
07:19<bluewater>wow piper still lives as do I
07:20<piper>holy sheepshit, hi bluewater ;)
07:20<martok>blast007: thanks, I was just checking and noticed that also.
07:20<bluewater>piper.. grins
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07:22<piper>bluewater: not to be to OT on this channel, but nice to hear from you again old friend
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07:22<bluewater>piper .. same here
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10:04<vivus>Hello all. I am on Debian Stretch and I have this error: `sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified` . I get this error even after I have added my user to the sudo group
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10:10<webmind>how are you executing the command?
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10:28<vivus>webmind: as root user, I do: `usermod -aG sudo USER`
10:30<arto>vivus: how do you sudo? And adduser $user sudo would do
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10:59<arto>vivus: and sudo usage: sudo <command>
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11:14<aryan>hiii
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11:14<aryan>i want to know sometjimg
11:15<aryan>how can i install wifi usab adapter in linux
11:15<aryan> anyone
11:18<petn-randall>!anyone
11:18<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
11:18<petn-randall>!ask
11:18<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:18<petn-randall>aryan: Try adding some details to your question that makes it answerable. ^^^
11:18<aryan>i have a problem with my tor browser
11:18<petn-randall>aryan: I'd say "just plug it in" but I'm guessing you tried that and it didn't work.
11:19<aryan>it doesn't open
11:19<aryan>ok
11:19<petn-randall>aryan: What OS are you running?
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11:19<aryan>parrot os
11:19<aryan>and u
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11:20<petn-randall>!parrot
11:20<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
11:20<petn-randall>aryan: Try asking in the right channel. ^^^
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11:20<aryan>will u tell me some good chaneel for me
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11:21<aryan>????
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11:22<petn-randall>aryan: Read. The. Factoid.
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11:24<vivus>arto: I do: `sudo apt-get update` and it gives me that error
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11:25<arto>vivus: please write, what groups command gives
11:25<vivus>arto: "debian sudo"
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11:28<arto>vivus: group debian....? Sorry. I've got to go for a while
11:29<vivus>arto: you mean "groups debian" ?
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12:07<arto>vivus: sorry, debian is your username, of course. But after you have added yourself to a group, you have logout and login before it starts working.
12:08<vivus>arto: I did that. error still persists. logged out/in, reboot also
12:08<arto>vivus: try: sudo apt update
12:09<arto>vivus: and when sudo ask's for password, that's your password
12:09<vivus>arto: do you use LXC?
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12:10<arto>vivus: no, xfce, but sudo is command mainly used in bash (cli)
12:10<vivus>arto: this is odd. `sudo -S ..." worked for me
12:11<arto>vivus: something odd, but good you figured out how
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12:11<vivus>ill blame systemd
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12:12<arto>vivus: I do not, debian 9.4 stable, systemd
12:12<arto>vivus: I've used sudo more than 15 years, it has always worked, same now, when debian moved to systemd
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12:17<arto>vivus: I'd suggest you read https://wiki.debian.org/sudo , if you have missed something
12:17<vivus>arto: It was odd because ive always used: sudo <command> and it didn't work this time.
12:18<arto>vivus: when do you think it stopped working normally?
12:18<vivus>arto: it could be an LXC container issue.
12:18<vivus>(container is Debian though)
12:19<arto>vivus: I did not even know what it was, that so stupid answer (xfce), but good point, I'd try without lxc
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12:20<arto>vivus: when I read description for lxc, it may well explain your propblem
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12:26<vivus>arto: no such thing as a "stupid answer" :) just misinformed
12:26<vivus>ty for helping me :)
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12:27<arto>vivus: you helped yourself, good chat, thanks :)
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13:53<annadane>that is incorrect, and your bet was $3000, so that brings you down to $10
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14:09<vivus>annadane: you the same anna in #gnu ?
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14:10<annadane>off topic, but yes
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15:39<jeansen>Hi there. I am using an Intel NUC with a monitor attached via DisplayPort. If the monitor gets turned off automatically (or manually via xset dpms off), it only takes a couple of seconds and it turns itself on again to directly turn itself off again. That is, it stays black, but I constantly see this display messaga (no signal, going to sleep). Any ideas what might be the cause or how I could at least get some more information regarding th
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16:00<amin>hi. gdm3 does not start after fresh install.
16:00<amin>any solutions?
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16:00<amin>lightdm works but gdm3 just hangs
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16:02<enyc>amin: silly question but whats' wrong with using lightdm?
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16:04<enyc>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=stable;package=gdm3
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16:13<amin>enyc, this is crazy. I had Buster with no problem. I upgraded my packages and this problems started. Then I reinstalled stable. But the problem occurs in stable, too.
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16:21<enyc>amin: yes, aybe it is crazy. does your issue match any of the bugs already reported?
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16:28<piper>someone today had this problem in #debian-next and he solved it by doing apt install rng-tools5 it might/might not work for you, won't hurt either, can always purge if not needed
16:29<piper>amin: ↑↑↑
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16:37<amin>enyc, to some extent. piper, let me check, thanks
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17:17<cef>amin: Probably issues caused by the fix for CVE-2018-1108
17:18<cef>!CVE-2018-1108
17:18<dpkg>hmm... cve-2018-1108 is a security fix for a lack of randomness at boot time, which delays the use of the kernel crng by applications till sufficient randomness is ready. This can cause delays (up to to 4+ minutes) in boot time just before or just after login (depending on setup). Short term workaround: Wiggle your mouse (introduces entropy) to shorten the delay.
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17:25<piper>https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/8h9bfq/recent_debian_linux_kernel_update_breaks_my_system/
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17:27<cef>piper: yup. esp since the security update is now in all of stretch/stretch-backports/buster/sid. unfortunately rng-tools5 won't fix it for everyone. :/
17:27<piper>the user earlier (#debian-next) said the wiggle thing did nothing for him rng-tools5 worked
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17:27<piper>cef: yes YMMV is correct ;)
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17:29<piper>for some haveged works :)
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17:35<cef>!CVE-2018-1108
17:35<dpkg>cve-2018-1108 is, like, a security fix for a lack of randomness at boot. Delays the use of the kernel crng by applications till sufficient randomness is ready. Can cause delays (up to to 4+ minutes) in boot time just before or just after login, esp with LUKS enabled. Short term workarounds: Wiggle mouse/tap keyboard a lot, install rng-tools5 or haveged pkgs, or boot previous kernel
17:35<cef>I updated the factoid, so hopefully that'll help some ppl.
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17:37<piper>cef: thanks
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22:52<DarkiYahu>Hello
22:53<DarkiYahu>Do you guys have anything to do with bunsenburn?
22:53<DarkiYahu>It seems the IRC client threw me over here
22:53<DarkiYahu>I have a Question
22:53<DarkiYahu>Is it still possible to have programs startup in different screens?
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22:55<annadane>!bunsenburn
22:56<annadane>is it related at all to bunsenlabs?
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22:57<DarkiYahu>Oh sorry
22:57<DarkiYahu>Bunsenlabs
22:57<annadane>!bunsenlabs
22:57<dpkg>BunsenLabs Linux is a community continuation of <crunchbang> that features the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.bunsenlabs.org/ #bunsenlabs on chat.freenode.net. See <based on debian>
22:57<DarkiYahu>ahh
22:57<annadane>but we love you all the same for not being one of the endless 12 year old kali/parrot people who want to do nothing but hack computers
22:58<DarkiYahu>Nope that is not me
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22:58<DarkiYahu>But it would be nice to be 12 again :)
22:59<DarkiYahu>I wonder why the IRC in BunsenLabs don'
22:59<DarkiYahu>don't go to there own channel
22:59<DarkiYahu>but Debian
23:00<annadane>yeah, i don't know, it's silly
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23:01<DarkiYahu>found it :)
23:01<DarkiYahu>Long time since I was on linux
23:02<DarkiYahu>Had I just grown up with Linux
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23:29<matrix>what up
23:29<matrix>hello
23:29<matrix>hello'
23:30<annadane>matrix, hi
23:30<annadane>if you have a question, best to just ask it
23:30<matrix>cool shit didnt know this os had hex chat
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23:54<DarkiYahu>Hello Matrix
23:54<DarkiYahu>matrix
23:54<DarkiYahu>matrix well it seems it does
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23:54<DarkiYahu>not sure why it don't autoconnect to this channel though
23:55<DarkiYahu>I fixed my 4 workspaces annadane
23:55<DarkiYahu>But I still have not found where the other thing is
23:55<DarkiYahu>Installed most of the Applications to try them out
23:55<DarkiYahu>I wonder how I uninstall them :P
23:56<ran>Hello?
23:56<annadane>ran, hi
23:57<ran>I like this... I'm noob.
23:57<annadane>everyone was, at some point
23:58<DarkiYahu>ran m3
23:58<DarkiYahu>or m2
23:58<DarkiYahu>anyway still don't understand why Crunchbang was discontinued
23:58<ran>m3
23:58<ran>all the way
23:59<DarkiYahu>The best linux distribution I could find even if I was a noob and had issues with most of the things.,
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