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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-05-13

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02:54<parrot>hello
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03:21<umbridge>Hi, may I suggest adding nextcloud to the repositories? Thanks
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03:45<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
03:45<cousin_luigi>Where are build requirements indicated in a debian source package?
03:46<somiaj>by build requirements do you mean the build depends?
03:46<somiaj>the .dsc file should list the Build-Depends
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03:48<cousin_luigi>somiaj: Oh that. I was looking inside the tarball with tha patches.
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03:48<somiaj>in debian/control you can see them too (sortta)
03:49<cousin_luigi>somiaj: What does dh in rules do, exactly?
03:49<somiaj>debian helper stuff
03:50<somiaj>they are meant to ease the build process and contain a bunch of scripts that automate certain thigns.
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03:50<somiaj>you may find #debian-packaging more helpful than here too.
03:50<cousin_luigi>somiaj: I see. Where could I find a description of that?
03:50<somiaj>there are lots of debian helper tools, read the man pages, various things on the wiki. So it might depend on which debian helper script you are talking about.
03:51<cousin_luigi>somiaj: Thing is, I come from rpm and I'm having a hard time figuring out what's implicit and what is not.
03:51<cousin_luigi>somiaj: In other words, where do I find which commands are used to run e.g. the autotools configure script?
03:52<somiaj>auto tools are done by dh_auto_configure I belive, but I'm not that familar on the whole build process, only know the basics, as I said #debian-packaging maybe a better place to be asking such questions
03:52<cousin_luigi>k
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03:53<cousin_luigi>somiaj: on this network?
03:53<somiaj>yes
03:54<cousin_luigi>somiaj: No such channel. But there's #packaging.
03:54<cousin_luigi>Will see what they tell me there. ttfn
03:54<somiaj>oh sorry, yea just #packaging, must have remembered the name wrong
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05:34<umbridge>Hello guys, are there any drawbacks using snap packages?
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05:42<umbridge>I'll just try it out :)
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06:26<desafder>apt-get upgrade is ignoring my block list . how come ?
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06:34<desafder>it ignore also ansering No to to the "Do you want to continue [y/N]?" is that expected beheavior ?
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06:41<arto>desafder: try apt update && apt upgrade (as root)
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07:27<sam5371>hii
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07:35<desafder>arto: i am root and i want to answer no
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08:06<Human_G33k>hello, i want a good email cli, i want it put email and cli file in separate folder (ie ~/.cli and ~/email). i want it support gpg, and maildir.
08:06<Human_G33k>any advice ?
08:06<Human_G33k>if it ncurse cli it s better
08:07<bremner>"cli file" ?
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08:09<Human_G33k>conf file or related needed by the email client, can be in ~/config ;)
08:10<bremner>I thought every client did that.
08:11<bremner>anyway, (neo)mutt is the obvious suggestion
08:11<Human_G33k>not thunderbird :)
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11:05<keycollector>I unistalled network manager on debian stretch kde. I reinsalled it with apt install network-manager, but i cant seem to pull it up or get it to appear in the notifications task bar.
11:05<keycollector>Any ideas?
11:06<b17>try pkg plasma-nm?
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11:11<keycollector>Thanks b17, i tired searching for a similar package, couldnt seem to find this one.
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12:21<capoderra>hello all, I'm using XFCE and I've manually installed Numix Circle Icons in the .icons folder but it doesn't show up in Appearance, only Numix shows up, any ideas?
12:22<capoderra>Also, when using plain "numix" not all of the icons are changing over, some have remained in the "default"
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13:48<crash_bandicoot02>how to give acces to others user on my system to open my virtual machine with vmware
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17:10<rob_debian>Hi all, I'd like a suggestion about mate terminal, which is version 1.16.3 in debian stable repository. Occurs that mate terminal cursor stops after 10 seconds where, despite the fact it's configured to blink always. It looks like a bug, for lxterminal and konsole doesn't have the same behavior when it's configured with the same option of 'blinking always'.
17:10<luisfcc86>It stops showing or stops blinking?
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17:11<rob_debian>hi luisfcc86, nice to meet you !:) well, it stops blinking...
17:12<rob_debian>lxterminal and konsole terminal are perfect, run fine and never their cursors stop with you configure them to always blink
17:12<rob_debian>but, not the case of mate terminal, unfortunately :(
17:13<luisfcc86>rob_debian: hi, rob_debian! let's see... mate terminal, right? so konsole, qt-based, is working right, but gtk-based mate-terminal don't, right?
17:14<dboles>huh
17:14<dboles>can replicate on gnome-terminal too
17:14<luisfcc86>interesting... it happens on gnome-terminal too
17:14<dboles>guess it's caused by vte
17:14<luisfcc86>probably vte, dboles
17:15<luisfcc86>i agree
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17:15<rob_debian>probably if gtk-based mate-terminal is related to blinking cursor with stability,so that's it... oh, by the way, I gave up gnome terminal because of that
17:15<IkeDo>hello guys
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17:16<annadane>all terminals are basically the same but i do tend to like mate-terminal
17:16<rob_debian>blinking cursor always shows the Power of Debian Server f:) That's why I want it always blinking in mate terminal !
17:16<dboles>dconf: /org/gnome/desktop/interface/cursor-blink-timeout
17:16<dboles>e.g. https://github.com/thestinger/termite/issues/494
17:16<annadane>at least the one in unstable; the one in stable doesn't allow you to set your own background from the GUI
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17:17<luisfcc86>dboles: this dconf path manages blinking timeout?
17:17<dboles>that's what the link says, isn't it?
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17:18<dboles>btw this happens right here in polari, too
17:18<rob_debian>Hi annadane ! please, dboles, you've referred about gnome file configuration for gnome terminal... and about mate terminal ?
17:18<luisfcc86>dboles: but it may be just a boolean thing to set blinking timeout to yes/no, or a timer for blinking stop
17:18<dboles>it's the duration, like that thread discusses
17:19<dboles>rob_debian: it is a gnome desktop wide key that is used by vte, gtk+, etc.
17:19<luisfcc86>dboles: didn't read thread
17:19<dboles>i'm trying to teach people to fish here
17:19<luisfcc86>but it's nice to know there's a way to configure that thing. sadly, only by dconf configuration
17:20<dboles>anyway, i just tested changing it to 20, and that works
17:20<rob_debian>fine, dboles. I just would like blinking cursor, so please, teach me how to fish this blinking cursor in mate terminal.
17:20<dboles>so go nuts
17:20<luisfcc86>dboles: i agree and apreciate that, i just hadn't read it this time
17:20<IkeDo>guys
17:20<IkeDo>who is using kali linux
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17:20<dboles>rob_debian: well, i told you that the key gives time timeout after which blinking stops. so change it to a larger timeout, and blinking won't stop so soon. heck, change it to 99999999 secs or whatever for 'infinite' blinking
17:20<dboles>!kali
17:20<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
17:21<rob_debian>Please IkeDo, this channel is only for Debian Support
17:21<IkeDo>yes
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17:21<IkeDo>kali
17:21<dboles>!based on debian
17:21<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
17:21<annadane>kali is sadly not supported here
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17:22<rob_debian>fine dboles, but which is this configuration file in debian for mate terminal ?
17:22<dboles>it's not a configuration file. it is, as i said, a dconf key
17:23<luisfcc86>edit that dconf key and alas! your blinking problem will be solved
17:23<dboles>so use the dconf-editor gui or the gsettings command-line tool
17:23<IkeDo>so what is the network of kali ?
17:23<IkeDo>the network name ?
17:24<luisfcc86>!based on debian
17:24<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
17:24<annadane>it mentions in the factoid
17:24<annadane>#kali-linux on chat.freenode.net
17:26<b17>blinking cursor? far out, what will they think of next...
17:26<rob_debian>dboles, I don't have any idea about dconf-editor gui or gsettings...
17:26<luisfcc86>rob_debian: open dconf-editor, look for that key dboles said and edit its value
17:27<rob_debian>yeah b17, I suspected anyone would have this kind of reaction you had now :)
17:27<dboles>then please google them or wait for someone else to walk you through every single step... i personally find it more useful to give people the directions they need to solve their own problem, than to explain every minor detail
17:27<luisfcc86>dboles: much more helpful, since your way people may learn it truly
17:28<b17>I think it's a great idea, blinking is fun.
17:28<rob_debian>fine dboles, thank you very much for advice :) let me see if I can fix this issue here. Thanks for hint, luiscc86 :)
17:29<luisfcc86>rob_debian: you're welcome
17:29<dboles>rob_debian: you may even have dconf Editor installed if you search, and you almost certainly have the gsettings command ;)
17:30<rob_debian>fine deboles and luisfcc86, I'll try it here. Thank you, Debian Warriors !
17:30<luisfcc86>b17: personally i don't care for blinking stuff... aesthetic pleasure, i guess, but don't prevent stuff being done
17:30<rob_debian>yeah b17, blinking cursor is fun. It suggests how Powerfull is Debian !
17:30<b17>well, my xterm never blinks but i'm all for it, we need bumper stickers
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17:31<dboles>I always configure each new terminal I use to block+blink! No real reason (i.e. I don't think any of the retro computers I used did both :P)
17:32<luisfcc86>rob_debian: well, i come from slack, so i tend to go for funcionality over aesthetics
17:32<dboles>Maybe eventually I'll go BBC Micro style with a blinking underline, or Amstrad CPC with a non-blinking block. haha
17:32<luisfcc86>b17: xterm is life
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17:33<b17>luisfcc86: yeh i agree the colors and detail are so much better
17:33<dboles>rob_debian: the mention of power is funny, as someone says the upstream explanation for the default timeout and stopping blinking was to save energy.... lol, as if blinking a cursor is going to be that significant
17:33<luisfcc86>b17: not only this, xterm get the job cleanly done
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17:33<luisfcc86>dboles: no way they said that!
17:34<rob_debian>I prefer both luisfcc86, not one at the expense of the other. I use slackware too, 14.2, but Debian is my Primary System for everything
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17:34<b17>blinking watses fossil fuels? aw man then forget it
17:34<dboles>luisfcc86: to be fair, no one provided a link to that "upstream bug", and googling doesn't find it, so maybe it was paraphrased (or not and google just doesn't crawl that bug tracker)
17:34<dboles>definitely one of the oddest/funniest things i read today though either way
17:35<luisfcc86>dboles: no doubt it was
17:35<rob_debian>yes, dboles, it's a approach more psychological than technical, but you know ... My fanatic style for debian is like this!
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17:35<b17>i bet it could cause seizures too, maybe?
17:36<dboles>i guess if it meant that blinking could cause the process to wake up, that might stand to reason, but i still wonder whether that is really a practical rationale
17:36<luisfcc86>b17: or it may change whales' migratory habits?
17:36<dboles>i'm all about saving energy, but let's look at things in context haha
17:36<luisfcc86>hahahaha
17:37<b17>i'm going to research this a lot when i'm even more bored
17:37<luisfcc86>i believe if you can save 1 nanoampère by nonblinking you should save it hahahaha
17:38*dboles feeling increasingly guilty for my wasteful eyecandy
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17:38<luisfcc86>my cursor doesn't blink. slackware way of life hehehee
17:39<luisfcc86>so i save some picoampères here
17:39<rob_debian>Of course there are more serious technical issues to be discussed about a Debian system, but the fact that some application or feature does not work as proposed, also has its technical relevance, however it is a small problem ... as the case of the blinking cursor in the mate-terminal.
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17:39<luisfcc86>rob_debian: I must agree. If you can customize it and it doesn't stay customized, something wrong is happening, right?
17:40<rob_debian>if you use kde4 in slackware, so it should blink always, luisfcc86, as it's the case here....
17:40<luisfcc86>on slack i use kde plasma
17:40<luisfcc86>but debian stuff on debian stuff, and let slack for my next time dualbooting hehehehe
17:40<rob_debian>yes, luisfcc86.. oh, never used plasma in slackware... and I always use mate in debian
17:40<b17>konsole is a pretty good term i use that now and then, but the blue and red don;t look right.
17:41<dboles>luisfcc86: it seems to stay customised just fine! i changed it back though... gotta save those amps
17:41<rob_debian>the same here, luisfcc86, dual boot with debian and slackware, in an old machine dell optiplex 210L, from 2205
17:41<rob_debian>oh, 2005
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17:42<alessandro>Hi
17:42<luisfcc86>dboles: editing your dconf looks like a little cumbersome way to do some customizations, dont?
17:43<luisfcc86>rob_debian: my computer wasn't stolen from a museum like yours hahahahaha
17:43<luisfcc86>alessandro: hi, man
17:43<alessandro>hi luis
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17:44<dboles>luisfcc86: there's no clear-cut place to put a setting like this that is used by multiple apps/libs, although i guess putting it in GNOME Tweaks wouldn't hurt
17:44<dboles>you know what GNOME is like about putting settings in GUIs, though!
17:44<alessandro>it's time to sleep, bye
17:44<luisfcc86>dboles: would be the logical place, i guess
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17:45<rob_debian>I mantain it alive here, luisfcc86, I have a laptop dell with i5 2tb hd (not ssd, sadly) 16 gb ram, from 2014, but with debian too
17:45<dboles>that was the shortest irc session ever
17:45<rob_debian>it's fine using an old machine and realize that debian and slackware make it fast, stable and fun :)
17:46<luisfcc86>dboles: we should have some kind of award to that impressive shortness hehehe
17:46<dboles>i always say this, but i use a laptop from 2012 that originally came with win7 and a mechanical hard drive, and when i installed an ssd and put linux on it... suddenly it had achieved its real value! it was so slow and limited before (e.g. the windows touchpad drivers couldn't do more than single tap)
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17:47<dboles>then i maxed out the ram, replaced the cpu, etc., but still! the difference with a proper disk and an os that wasn't constantly monopolising my network/disk with updates and cpu/disk with antivirus scans was just incredible
17:47<luisfcc86>sometime ago i had a toshiba satellite from 2000. with slack it was so fast... sadly its graphic board went to hardware paradise last year
17:48<dboles>at this point, you can pretty much sell linux to me with the line 'it will not do something if you did not tell it to'
17:48<dboles>i.e. it won't assume i'm happy for it to start monopolising entire categories of resource whenever it decides to do some housekeeping
17:48<luisfcc86>and i must agree to that
17:49<dboles>i use other people's low-powered windows 10 machines sometimes and end up flabbergasted so often when they just seize up
17:50*dboles remembers to check for updates
17:51<luisfcc86>man, don't ever remember me how traumatic is using windows 10 on low powered machines after using a good gnu/linux distribution on a good machine
17:51<dboles>"Need to get 2,111 MB" - ah.
17:51<luisfcc86>delete your porn directory, man hahahaaha
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17:52<dboles>is *that* what aptitude has been downloading this whole time?
17:52<luisfcc86>probably
17:53<luisfcc86>think with me... in what is aptitude apt on?
17:56<annadane>dboles, sid, i assume
17:56<dboles>yup [kicks self out of channel]
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17:57<annadane>yeah i don't know with what frequency i want to check for updates, i guess i'll do it weekly
17:58<annadane>every day is a pain
17:58<luisfcc86>normally i use a crontab script to check upgrades, a habit i got with slackware
17:58<luisfcc86>22 years using slackware stable... sometimes we got a month without upgrades
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17:58<dboles>my current setup is working well: update on the rare occasion i remember, and encounter a relatively rare frequency of unstable breakages :D
17:59<luisfcc86>hehehehehe
17:59<luisfcc86>i go with stable all the way always
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18:00<luisfcc86>debian and slackware requires not to much attention on upgrading stuff, so i can be a very happy person this way
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18:01<luisfcc86>well, i must go, real life is calling
18:01<luisfcc86>i'll be back right
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18:02<annadane>i'm careful and it's a desktop, so, unstable for me
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18:27<linuxnewb>anyone around? Had a question regarding UFW (uncomplicated firewall) and how to allow incoming and outgoing connections from within my local network
18:28<annadane>linuxnewb, if you idle for a bit someone will probably get around to it
18:28<annadane>or ask in debian-user@lists.debian.org if it takes forever
18:28<Sveta>there is probably #ufw at freenode
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18:29<linuxnewb>sveta, you mean freenode literally has a channel devoted entirely to discussion/help with UFW?
18:31<bremner>there is channels for many things on freenode, but it looks like no channel for ufw
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18:31<linuxnewb>bremner: dang. oh well
18:31<linuxnewb>think I found one for iptables
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18:38<annadane>did you check the man page for ufw, may be something in there
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18:46<b17>I always ran a firewall back on windows but never set one up on linux. My router/isp pretty much blocks most things. But sometimes I wonder...
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18:48<bb123>Pictures
18:53<somiaj>depends on your use case, but in general in debian you shouldn't have a bunch of things installed listening on the network by default.
18:53<somiaj>and if you install something that listens on an open port you usually want that port open, hence debian doesn't provide a default firewall, though there are plenty of uses for them in debian.
18:55<b17>I used to use this a lot to scan open ports, haven't tried it lately https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
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19:02<somiaj>b17: netstat -a works, though ss I think is the modern replacement. there is also nmap
19:03<b17>somiaj: i decided just to not have any secrets on here, it's easier that way.
19:04<b17>back in the bbs days i used to get a kick out of watching people hack into it.
19:06<b17>i think people are very creative and will find a way to get what they want one way or the other, so I don;t really worry.
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19:10<Eryn_1983_FL>does dnsmasq still work for blocking youtube ads on phone?
19:12<b17>Eryn_1983_FL: I never knew it did that, did you find some documentation?
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19:30<carl8888>Hi I would like to know if there is a way to easily convert a media like a picture or a video in a text like binary code: bits,bytes etcetera and vice-versa.
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19:35<kot>carl8888, there's a lot of binaries encoded to text messages on usenet, software, video, images, music. i'm not aware of what they use to convert it, though. maybe somebody on alt.binaries on usenet could tell you.
19:36<carl8888>Thanks
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19:43<qobi[m]>luisfcc86: I guess you could help me customize my xterm.
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19:46<Eryn_1983_FL>b17: that is what my wide said pi-hole did.
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19:46<Eryn_1983_FL>not sure how they are doing it i thought it was dnsmasq
19:46<Eryn_1983_FL>i tried updating host files but that does not seem to block all the ads on youtube
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19:50<b17>Eryn_1983_FL: i think it depends what browser you use, have you tried xul-ext-adblock-plus extension for firefox?
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19:51<b17>I use xul-ext-ublock-origin myself, but not for youtube I never watch video thru a browser
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