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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-05-14

---Logopened Mon May 14 00:00:10 2018
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04:54<chele>i have two package which use the same directory to copy file from and delete it. If I run them together with dpkg -i *.deb installation fails. If ran separately installation is successful. How can I handle this race condition? both are copying and removing in its postinst script?
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05:30<arto>chele: So poorly done packages, that they probably are not from debian. deb-packages can be extracted without installing, use dpkg-deb -R Read man pages for more info.
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05:46<cef>arto: I think chele created these packages and wants to know how "best" to do it.
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06:36<Guest2646>how can i make firefox work? im new in parrotsec
06:36<bremner>!parrot
06:36<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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06:37<max1204>bremner?
06:38<DNS>max1204: this is the official debian channel and not the official parrot os channel
06:38<bremner>max1204: read what dpkg wrote
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06:40<DNS>i wonder if parrot os links to debian irc chan
06:40<bremner>probably. many derivitives use irc client packages unchanged from debian
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06:51<arto>I did not find any links to #debian from parrot web site, though they recommended debian manuals in doc page
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07:08<DNS>arto: the irc clients in parrot might still have a unchanged config for this channel
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07:24<Makkah> ok
07:27<Makkah>b ok
07:27<Makkah>ok
07:27<Makkah>yeh thats true
07:27<Makkah>yeh thts true
07:28<Makkah>yes thats ok
07:28<Makkah>yes thats ok
07:30<DNS>Makkah: everything ok?
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07:31<Makkah>Yes thanks just testing commands
07:32<petn-randall>Makkah: Please don't do that in the channel, or the bot will kick you.
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07:32<petn-randall>Makkah: Kali or Parrot?
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07:43<liveuser>did anybody notice the dependencies of packages look to be junk not needed by the package asked for?
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07:46<liveuser>did anybody notice the dependencies of packages look to be junk not needed by the package asked for?
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07:48<petn-randall>liveuser: Care to give an example?
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07:53<bremner>what I have noticed is users asking for help being kindof aggressive and rude
07:53<bremner>YMMV ;)
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07:56<Makkah>no need to help people like that
07:56<Makkah>they can go to linux mint and cry
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07:59<liveuser_>hey
07:59<liveuser_>any partners online?
07:59<grove>partners? Of what?
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08:07<liveuser_>grove: first some internet mapping
08:07<liveuser_>then go from there, no limit
08:08<liveuser_>attempting to open up an ssh port, having problems
08:08<liveuser_>this means there are unseen filters
08:08<liveuser_>and when it is ready the entire world is in my hands like pottery
08:09<liveuser_>they keep blocking me apparently so they can do monetary fraud
08:09<liveuser_>I have greater things to accomplish
08:10<liveuser_>long overdue terminations
08:10<liveuser_>genocides
08:10<liveuser_>subdueing death
08:10<liveuser_>on and on
08:11<liveuser_>grove: can you handle networking tools
08:11<liveuser_>ping, tracert etc.
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08:13<liveuser_>that about sums it up as far as partners go
08:14<liveuser_>ask a question then comline halted
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08:16<liveuser_>helooooooooooooooooooooooooo
08:17<liveuser_>guardian: what do you do?
08:17<liveuser_>shim shimma?
08:17<bremner>!chat
08:17<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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08:18<liveuser_>bremner: yeah the querstion about all of the junk apt pulls in
08:18<liveuser_>heres something simple openssh pulls in libcomer2
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08:19<liveuser_>which looks like junk
08:19<liveuser_>is this an ssh tapper?
08:20<liveuser_>these are being pulled from an archive
08:20<liveuser_>archive-7 or something like that
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08:20<liveuser_>though it is supposed to be testing or "current"
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08:23<liveuser_>yet kalilinux seems to trust the repository
08:24<liveuser_>the manual has some line about not adding unknown repos
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08:29<bremner>this is not the support channel for kali
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08:53<grove>!kali
08:53<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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08:54<grove>liveuser_: Yes, I can handle networking tools, but that's not really relevant. If you have problems with Debian (if your problem is with another distribution find the appropriate place to ask for that), ask a clear question
08:59<liveuser_>grove: kalilinux is debian
08:59<liveuser_>it pulls directly from debian
08:59<petn-randall>liveuser_: It's not. Please read the factoid from dpkg.
09:00<liveuser_>yeah then its I and reflection
09:00<liveuser_>so where is the body doing the shadowing
09:00<liveuser_>running the mirror commands
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09:01<petn-randall>liveuser_: Please join the right channel, or feel free to come back and ask support questions when you're running Debian.
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11:31<live>mis graficas corren lentas en los juegos yo uso debian 9
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11:33<petn-randall>!es
11:33<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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11:43<scwizard>Hey, for my work I've been working on CI/CD of debian vagrant boxes
11:44<scwizard>and I notice that this isn't something that ya'll really have set up, so I'm trying to figure out, what's the best way to go about sharing my work back
11:44<scwizard>https://salsa.debian.org/cloud-team/vagrant-boxes <- this is what I've been basing my work on
11:46<scwizard>but there's no way to submit merge requests, or issues and so on
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11:48<scwizard>let me also ask in #debian-cloud
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12:00<petn-randall>scwizard: Yes, you might have better chances getting a response there.
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14:29<berceanu>apt update gives me some warnings: https://paste.debian.net/1024658/
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14:31<Brigo_>berceanu, that's new
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14:31<berceanu>im on debian 9.4
14:32<Brigo>i know. From your source.list :)
14:32<annadane>remove the non free firmware section and just add contrib and non-free to the other lines
14:33<berceanu>will do
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14:34<berceanu>thanks that fixed it!
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14:46<annadane>is there a quick and easy way of knowing which shell commands only work as root?
14:46<annadane>and by work i mean invoked
14:47<bremner>annadane: not really. being in /sbin is a hint, but only a hint
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15:03<Makkah><annadane>: if a command dont work or comes up blank as a Standard user sudo it
15:03<annadane>yeah, i know
15:03<annadane>i just wanted... i don't know, a faster solution, because i'm lazy
15:03<annadane>but that's fine too
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15:12<zoro>my iraqi
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16:55<jackslack2>sup my crackers
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17:59<jhutchins>annadane: privileged commands are usually in /sbin and /usr/sbin which aren't on the regular user's path.
17:59<annadane>mm.
18:00<jhutchins>annadane: As with most things Linux, there are exceptions. A regular user can run /sbin/ifconfig to READ the configuration, but can't issue commands that change it.
18:00<jhutchins>annadane: Basically if it affects the whole system, you need root privileges. If it's just your own stuff, you don't.
18:01<jhutchins>!handbook
18:01<dpkg>The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at http://debian-handbook.info/ and can be browsed, bought and downloaded. From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards, it can also be installed from the debian-handbook package. Also ask me about <books> <docs>. PDF at https://debian-handbook.info/download/stable/debian-handbook.pdf
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18:07<John>Hello, Is there a way to change the mount options (dmask / fmask) used by nautilus when mounting ntfs drives ?
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18:07<jhutchins>Yes, you can set them for a specific drive or mountpoint in /etc/fstab
18:08<jhutchins>!ntfs rw
18:08<dpkg>NTFS-3G is a userspace driver providing NTFS read and write support. "aptitude install ntfs-3g". Usage examples: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/#usage . Also ask me about <user accessible ntfs>.
18:09<jhutchins>!user acessible ntfs
18:09<jhutchins>!user accessible ntfs
18:09<dpkg>To get an NTFS or VFAT file system accessible by users and groups on the local machine, man mount; man 5 fstab; and read about the umask, fmask, dmask, uid, and gid options. You'll end up sticking something like conv=auto,uid=<user>,gid=<group>,dmask=0002,fmask=0003 into your fstab's mount option field.
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18:11<John>If I edit the fstab, the configuration will be ok for internal hard-drive, but not for removable usb drive
18:12<jhutchins>John: Nevertheless, that's your option.
18:12<John>I read that nautilus mount the drives using udisk2, but I dont' know how to change the options used by udisk by default for ntfs drives
18:12<jhutchins>John: You can nail down the removables by UUID or by mount point.
18:13<jhutchins>John: That's the problem with the userspace extensions, they often don't allow any configuration.
18:14<John>True, I can register external drives in fstab...
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18:14<jhutchins>John: Sometimes there's a "mount options" menu somewhere, but sometimes there isn't.
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18:17<John>mistake, the file is /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/
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20:40<davi>hi
20:40<davi>fuck the bus]
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20:56<twb>Me again
20:56<twb>I built chromium with dbgsym and installed it
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20:56<twb>the stack trace that chromium emits doesn't have symbols listed in i
20:57<twb>http://ix.io/1alt
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21:07<twb>Do I have to do anything special to let _gdb_ see the debug symbols?
21:07*twb rereads https://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace
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21:09<rob_debian>HI all, please, I'd like to know which kind of problem it's happening here with this Debian (Jessie 8.10): http://paste.debian.net/1024697/. It uses btrfs
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21:10<annadane>rob_debian, context on the first block of text?
21:10<annadane>i see mount -t on the other two but the first one is just text without indicating where you got it from
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21:11<rob_debian>Hi annadane, nice to meet you ! I can't understand this information yet, annadane. For example, there are several lines in 'red' color (dmesg used), and these two ones at the end of information, are in red also:
21:11<rob_debian>mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun|sunx86|44bsd|ufs2|5xbsd|old|hp|nextstep|nextstep-cd|openstep ...
21:12<rob_debian>>>>WARNING<<< Wrong ufstype may corrupt your filesystem, default is ufstype=old
21:12<rob_debian>I didn't understad why it mentions 'ufs', for I use 'btrfs', not 'ufs' in debian.
21:13<annadane>i just meant, the top of the paste.debian.net entry, starting with [ 609.556627] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 8993488, what command did you type in order to get that
21:13<annadane>anyway, it's above my knowledge, i'm sure someone else knows though
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21:13<rob_debian>used 'dmesg', annadane
21:14<rob_debian>well, generally you fix my issues easily, but thank you very much anyway, annadane :)
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21:15<twb>rob_debian: line 1 is not btrfs, it's an optical drive
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21:16<twb>rob_debian: it's clearly trying to analyse the block device using multiple filesystems - that's why it tried ext4, xfs, fat, minix, hfs+, qnx4 before ufs
21:16<rob_debian>Hi twb, thanks for attention !, Perhaps it's better I use the whole print
21:16<twb>rob_debian: this is probably because it's trying to do -t auto and trying EVERY filesystem type
21:16<rob_debian>ok, twb, but why it should do it ?
21:16<twb>rob_debian: because you didn't specify -t btrfs
21:17<twb>rob_debian: or possibly because the fs is damaged enough that the type can't be guessed properly
21:17<rob_debian>no, I just used 'dmesg' just to check it
21:17<twb>uh... what do you think dmesg is checking?
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21:17<twb>rob_debian: run "sudo blkid"
21:19<rob_debian>oh, so ignorant on it. see the whole output of 'dmesg', please, twb
21:19<rob_debian>http://paste.debian.net/1024699/
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21:19<rob_debian>sudo blkid now
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21:20<rob_debian>blkid output: root@r4:~# blkid
21:20<rob_debian>root@r4:~#
21:21<rob_debian>root@r4:~# blkid
21:21<rob_debian>root@r4:~#
21:21<rob_debian>let me paste it
21:21<rob_debian>please, twb, here you are: http://paste.debian.net/1024700/
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21:24<twb>rob_debian: OK so blkid at least can recognize it
21:24<twb>rob_debian: confirm that /dev/sda1 isn't mounted (check "mount" output)
21:24<twb>rob_debian: then try "sudo mount -t btrfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/nipple-thud-splot"
21:24<sney>except that the dmesg wall of errors was about /dev/sda2, which isn't even listed there
21:24<rob_debian>twb, I never saw such a lot of red lines through 'dmesg' output here
21:24<twb>sney: oh good catch
21:24<sney>also, has rob even confirmed that there is a real problem with the system, or just errors
21:25<twb>rob_debian: what is supposed to be on /dev/sda2 ?
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21:25<twb>sney: I'm betting the mount -t auto is coming from some GUI that tries to automount-all-the-things
21:25<rob_debian>Hi sney, glad to see you again ! sney, apparently, everything is running fine here. But I can't undeerstand why so much red lines referring about errors, according 'dmesg' output
21:26<sney>I would hazard a guess that our repeat customer here pasted something into /etc/fstab
21:26<sney>but that's just my natural cynicism talking. rob_debian, when did this problem start?
21:27<rob_debian>I don't know, twb, only understand swap partition (/dev/sda5) and btrfs partition (/dev/sda4)
21:27<twb>uh... you said 4, did you mean 1?
21:27<rob_debian>fine, sney, I like you lot, no worries :). Well, this old machine has been stopped for some months...
21:28<rob_debian>now, I decided to power on it
21:29<rob_debian>twb, are you asking to me about 1 instead of 4 ?
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21:30<twb>rob_debian: write down in a pastebin what you THINK each partition is SUPPOSED to be
21:33<annadane>rob_debian, in general, you seem to be excessively concerned with messages in red/error messages, rather than first identifying a problem and then checking for said messages
21:33<rob_debian>well, twb, not so sure if I can do it, my skill in Debian Administration is quite limited yet
21:33<annadane>i'd not worry unless there's a specific problem, in general, not specifically related to this
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21:33<rob_debian>I must realize that's exactly what usually happens with me, annadane, what you've observed now
21:34<twb>I agree; the errors in dmesg are not the root problem
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21:35<rob_debian>apparently, everything is going fine here. oh, fine twb, it means, according what annadane observed, I'm too worried for nothing (or almost nothing).
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21:36<sney>rob_debian: your errors mean that debian is trying to mount a partition that does not exist. this implies that it is listed in a config file somewhere. most likely /etc/fstab. maybe you should check.
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21:37<rob_debian>unnecessary configurations in /etc/fstab you mean, sney ?
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21:37<sney>I believe that is literally what I just told you.
21:37<twb>11:37 <twb> Hrm, gdb writes "Reading symbols from /usr/lib/chromium/chromium...(no debugging symbols found)...done."
21:38<annadane>if you can just put on paste.debian.net the output of less /etc/fstab
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21:39<rob_debian>please, seny, twb and annadane, the outuput of nano /etc/fstab: http://paste.debian.net/1024702/
21:40<rob_debian>ok, annadane, just one moment, please
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21:40<annadane>no, you just did that...
21:40<twb>rob_debian: parted /dev/sda print
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21:41<rob_debian>please, annadane: http://paste.debian.net/1024704/
21:42<sney>do you never read your own pastes
21:42<rob_debian>let me proceed now about twb suggestion, just one moment, please.
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21:42<rob_debian>sney, I read, and try to undestand them, but sometimes I don't have the basic idea about what they mean... sorry :(
21:43<sney>the last two were identical
21:43<annadane>less and nano are basically the same for this purpose, you could've also used cat, we just need the output from what it says
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21:45<rob_debian>very stressed here, annadane, sorry, I'll try to study about these questions you,twb and sney has been trying to explain. awfully sorry
21:46<rob_debian>I can't undestand anything what you explain to me anymore. Better trying to do it on next occasion. sorry and thanks for attention and great support you always provide me here !:)
21:46<twb>rob_debian: is english your native language?
21:47<rob_debian>no twb, portuguese and spanish, why ?
21:47<rob_debian>bad english ?
21:47<twb>Your English is OK. However, if you cannot understand us, you can try #debian-es and #debian-pt
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21:48<rob_debian>no, twb, I understand your language, but not your thoughts, because I'm stressed here. I can't think clearly now. Tried but have failed here...
21:48<twb>rob_debian: you should also read this: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html)
21:49<twb>It is OK to be stressed
21:49<rob_debian>I only will be able to make smart questions when I'll be better, sorry twb, and thanks again
21:49<rob_debian>see you !
21:49<rob_debian>Bye ! God Bless you All !
21:50<twb>good luck
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21:50<twb>you can also tr- never mind
21:50<twb>I was going to say "find a local LUG and get face-to-face help"
21:50<dvs>and he didn't solve his problem.
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22:21<vahad>hi
22:21<annadane>hi vahad
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23:10<user>hi
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23:11<Guest2718>how to setup clawmail
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23:27<twb>step #1 is more patience
23:29<dvs>yeah, yeah, yeah patience. How long does that take????
23:31<twb>dvs: I'll tell you after you /quit
23:32<dvs>otay!
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