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00:14<star_tech>Need help with Debian 9.4 installation...
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00:16<somiaj>star_tech: just ask your question
00:16<somiaj>or explain your issue
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00:17<star_tech>Always fails when trying to install grub boot loader....
00:18<somiaj>well lets double check some things, first what install image are you using and second how did you copy the install image to a medium like usb or cd
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00:20<star_tech>File was debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso from debian.org using Etcher to create a USB bootable...
00:20<somiaj>that is most likely your issue, you should follow the suggestion in the install guide on how to deal with debian images (they are hybrid images in which tools like etcher can mangle them)
00:20<somiaj>what os are you creating the image from?
00:20<somiaj>I mean copying the image to a usb drive
00:21<star_tech>I created with Etcher on OSX, but have the option of using Windows too...
00:21<somiaj>on osx just use cp from a shell and copy the image directly to the usb deivce (not partition), on windows use win32diskimager
00:21<somiaj>I don't know osX well enough to tell you what the device name would be though.
00:22<star_tech>So the more generic question is, if programs like Etcher "mangle" the ISO, why would 99% of the Debian install proceed without problems? Seems that creating a bootable ISO ought to be fairly generic these days...
00:23<star_tech>So what is recommended then to create a "correct" Debian bootable USB stick?
00:23<somiaj>the debian iso's are hybird. They support both legacy and efi boot, on top of that they support both cd and usb boot. In essence the image is completely bootable. Programs like etcher don't just write the image to the usb, they try to make it bootable, thus mangling the debian image.
00:23<somiaj>!etcher
00:23<dpkg>Initial testing shows etcher is not a reliable way to copy debian images for installation. instead use cp or dd for linux, or win32diskimager for windows. https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch04s03.html.en
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00:24<star_tech>Okay, will give that a try...
00:24<somiaj>The recommeneded way is to do a raw copy. The image is already bootable, you just need to cpy it to the machine. cp is the suggested way in the install guide. On windows win32diskimager is a tool that does a raw copy
00:24<somiaj>in general none of the 'make a bootable usb tools' work with debian iamges, and they break them in strange ways. Somteimes it is just this, but in all cases the issue is the tool changes the image
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00:25<somiaj>unetbootin, rufus, and so on, all have this problem, because debian iamges are actually already bootable on usb and don't need any help
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00:25<star_tech>hmm...disapointing with considering our current state of technology that someone can't make a good graphic ISO creator...that doesn't mangle things...
00:25<somiaj>in osX, cp debian.iso /dev/foo should work, but I don't know what osX labeles it's evice.
00:26<star_tech>I can use cp on windows....
00:26<somiaj>well usb and cd boot are different, and most other .iso's need help, hence these programs to make it bootable.
00:26<somiaj>I don't think windows cp does direct copy to the device.
00:26<somiaj>you need to do a direct copy
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00:26<somiaj>anyways, this is all in the install guide
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00:27<somiaj>https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid
00:28<star_tech>okay...I see it now...I'll try some other alternatives...
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00:28<somiaj>but this is a common problem people encounter with the images because they are so use to using some fancy software, hence why the first question I asked was how did you copy the image
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00:36<star_tech>Okay, re-downloaded image, created usb with win32diskimager....installation is proceeding...we'll see what happens...
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00:36<somiaj>that should work, feel free to ask if there are any other issues.
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00:37<somiaj>(note the grub thing could have been fixed manually, but that is another story)
00:37<star_tech>So far, installation looks exactly as it did before...
00:38<star_tech>Unfortunately, I'm a little fuzzy about things in grub...so would definitely need some assistance there...
00:38<somiaj>yea, you won't notice any difference, except grub install should now work.
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00:38<somiaj>if it doesn't, I can help manually install grub. But software like etcher can cause strange things to happen, and sometimes they are very subtle.
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00:39<somiaj>and sometimes it works, in the end we just don't recommened using such software because it is hard to say what it did.
00:40<star_tech>While I'm sure we can get it to work, I'm also interested in WHY it didn't work and what was needed to make it work...(part of my learning process)....
00:40<star_tech>probably about 20 minutes at this point...
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00:42<somiaj>a very nieve viewpoint, the installer still thinks it is a cdrom, and looks for things in very specific cases, all it takes is a small tweak to the image, and the installer gets confused. It may seem like something silly, but it is because the image is hybrid and supports many different (sometimes conflicting) things at the same time, so it is quite a complicated iamge.
00:42<somiaj>I don't really know the details of the image, I just know to leave it alone and only use raw copies
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00:43<star_tech>yes, but all contingencies can be accounted for, it's just that often time developers don't bother...
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00:45<somiaj>in this case, it is the tool mangales the image because the tool tries to make it bootable, the dev's cant account for every tool that tries to do this.
00:45<somiaj>the reason such tools exist is most other places don't have premade bootable images, and need some tool to make it bootable.
00:46<star_tech>I see...
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01:22<star_tech>grub install still failed, which indicates that Etcher was NOT the problem, but there is something with my setup...
01:24<somiaj>When you get to the point you want to install grub, what did you slect as the point to install it? Are you using legacy or uefi boot
01:24<somiaj>and yea, seems like it wasn't in this case, but usually I like to rule that out as the first possiblity (because it can often be the problem)
01:26<star_tech>install point sda ? how can I tell if legacy or uefi? That's in the bios settings?
01:27<somiaj>that depends on how you boot at the start. are you still in the installer?
01:27<jm_>check if you have /sys/firmware/efi
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01:28<somiaj>at the very start (when you choose text or graphicall installer) it lets you know, and as jm_ points out you can also test from the system, but at this point it shoudlnt' matter if you are still in the isntaller
01:28<star_tech>no I am not installer anymore, I am at bios setup
01:29<somiaj>lets just fix your sytem, put in the installer, and boot it into 'rescue' mode and point it at your root (/) partition.
01:30<somiaj>this should use the installer to boot into your installed system, from there I can help you manually install grub.
01:31<star_tech>Okay, I selected rescue mode, and it gave me no other options, just started installation, but with a more "text" interface...
01:32<somiaj>it should ask you what your root parition is
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01:32<somiaj>and yes you should be in a a text interface, one second, let me boot this up on a vm to recall what it looks like
01:33<star_tech>okay, I'm now at a point where it's asking me about "rescue operations" and I have an option of execute a shell in /dev/sda1
01:33<star_tech>or installer environment
01:33<somiaj>is /dev/sda1 your root file system?
01:33<star_tech>yes
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01:34<somiaj>okay, execute a shell in /dev/sda1
01:35<star_tech>done...
01:36<somiaj>once you get to a shell, run 'grub-install /dev/sda' and lets see what sort of errors we get
01:36<star_tech>running...
01:36<somiaj>if it returns you to a promt without any errors, grub should be installed
01:37<star_tech>something about //hostdisk//dev/sda appears to contain a ufs2 filesystem.....
01:37<star_tech>but this is what installer would have created...
01:37<somiaj>hmm, that is strange, there really shouldn't be a file system on /dev/sda
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01:38<star_tech>told installer to partition whole drive...it's a fresh install
01:38<somiaj>star_tech: it seems this is a bug due to an artifact of a previous filesystem that was on this disk, looking into the details.
01:38<somiaj>well partition tables don't mess with the mbr (usually) so some artificat is on there from the drives previous use, reading through bugs and fixes
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01:40<somiaj>so besides your install, the disk doesn't have anything else on it? try this command 'grub-install --skip-fs-probe /dev/sda' this will tell grub to avoid that probe and try anyways, this may or may not work, but is worth trying
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01:40<somiaj>(provided you of course don't have a ufs file system on there)
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01:41<somiaj>my guess is you get another error about blocklists are UNRELIABLE
01:41<star_tech>when I do any kind of install on any os I expect that when I say format/partition it wipes any previous info...
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01:42<star_tech>yes...that is the error I get now
01:42<somiaj>still wont' change that the ufs file system has left artifacts in the mbr around, I would suggest not complaing that things aren't working as expected. Lets just track down the bug and fix it.
01:43<star_tech>okay...
01:43<somiaj>anyways, digging through various people's posts who had the same issue as you trying to find what I think the sanest possible fix is
01:44<star_tech>what bothers me about things not working as expected is that if I need to re-create this server for any reason, I have to jump through hoops to make it work....frustrating
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01:44<somiaj>you won't, this is an issue due to what the disk was previous used for, once it is fixed, it should not affect any installs after this.
01:44<somiaj>most likely we'll just have to zero out the mbr.
01:45<star_tech>okay....I guess I don't know how to do that from this point...
01:45<somiaj>it is solvable, I just to track down the right info
01:45<star_tech>so, for future reference, in this potential scenario...if I take the HD out, how should I prep the drive so I won't run into this?
01:46<somiaj>this is an unstandard bug, due to a previous use of the hd.
01:47<somiaj>I would not plan expecting this to happen.
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01:47<star_tech>maybe so...but I can't think of a time that I've run into an installer that didn't completely wipe and prep the drive in preparation for a fresh install....
01:47<somiaj>anyways I would like to find a fix that doesn't require zeroing your whole drive.
01:48<star_tech>well, we can do that if necessary....it's a fresh install....
01:48<somiaj>most installers don't wipe the mbr
01:48<jm_>look if wipefs can help
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01:48<star_tech>they should if it is a requirement for the install to complete successfully....all it takes is a confirmation dialog saying "are you sure"....
01:49<somiaj>it isn't a requirement, as I have said, this is an unstandard issue due to a previous use of the drive. This is the first time I've seen this issue in giving support here for 10+ years
01:50<somiaj>as I said, no need to try to assume that this is standard or complain that it isn't working. It turns out even formatting drives don't clear the mbr.
01:50<star_tech>okay....so going back to square one....I don't care about the drive....how do we prep it for COMPLETE installation of Debian without errors?
01:51<somiaj>this is independent of debian, you would have this issue with any system using grub and legacy mbr boot
01:52<star_tech>I'm open to any other more current standards of booting....I just don't know how to get there...
01:52<somiaj>anyways, lets try one thing and if this doesn't work, we'll zero out the mbr and restart
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01:52<star_tech>okay...
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01:52<somiaj>run this command 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1'
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01:53<somiaj>once that command is done, run this command 'fdisk -l' (does it detect your partition table normally)?
01:54<somiaj>the hard part here is to zero out the mbr without taking out the partition table, and I hope my info on 446 bites is correct.
01:55<jc>if fdisk is available you can write a new mbr with that, iirc.
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01:56<somiaj>I only thought the windows version did that, unless there is new features, or google is just giving me old posts
01:57<star_tech>hm...now shows /dev/sdb1 of 291M and /dev/sdb2 of 416K neither size is near HD capacity...
01:58<somiaj>star_tech: well we didn't touch /dev/sdb so that is irrelevent to this issue
01:58<star_tech>sorry...reading the output wrong....sda1 is 149G which is correct...
01:58<somiaj>since it sounds like the /dev/sda partition table seems fine, run 'grub-install /dev/sda'
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01:59<star_tech>sda2 4G extended sda5 4G swap
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01:59<somiaj>jc: man fdisk, I didn't find a fixmbr option like on the windows version.
01:59<somiaj>(though I could have missed it)
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02:00<star_tech>same error as before, existing UFS2 filesystem
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02:01<jc>been a while, so you may be right. gparted on a live iso can surely do it, though.
02:02<somiaj>star_tech: well since you said you don't care about the data on the drive, 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda' -- depending on the size of the drive this could take a while and it should zero out everything. After that the install should work
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02:03<star_tech>Okay...will do that and report back...
02:03<somiaj>star_tech: that will destory all data, I was hoping I could find a fix without a reinstall. And as for this issue, it is unstandard. But the mbr partition table just works this way, the mbr (first part of the disk) is left alone, even if you destroy the partition table, and 'reformat the disk', the mbr is left alone.
02:04<star_tech>what would be the purpose behind that if one is doing a "fresh" install?
02:04<somiaj>so if some previous use left (such as the ufs file system) put unstandard stuff on the mbr, you have to manually zero it out. As I said, I haven't seen this issue before, and it is quite rare.
02:04<somiaj>that is just how the mbr partition table is defined.
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02:06<somiaj>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record -- partly it is just an old standard. Modern machines use GPT partition tables and uefi partitions
02:06<somiaj>sorry and uefi boot
02:06<star_tech>I would think that considering a lot of people (such as myself) are recycling hardware and servers, that we would run into this almost all of the time....hence my first question of how to prep the drive beforehand....I would gladly take the HD out of the server, format and prep it some other way to avoid this....
02:06<somiaj>I'm sure people recycle stuff all the time, and I guess either those who do that have the knowledge to look this up on google, or this is just a rare issue that most don't run into.
02:07<somiaj>but if you want to prep, you can always zero out the drive with that dd command I gave
02:09<star_tech>I understand that, but considering the various levels of people who might be trying to install this, either a note about it in installation, or simply just having the installer "handle" it makes it worth the while. After all, that "is" why people pay extra money to Apple for OSX...to not have to deal with stuff like this...
02:10<somiaj>even the bug reports I found had little activity, what I see is this is a very rare case.
02:10<star_tech>it's all in the details...
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02:12<star_tech>If I remember right, I think CentOS has an option to "zero" out the disk during the installation...
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02:13<somiaj>well why don't you write a patch for the installer and submit it to fix the issue. Debian is community/volunteer run, but it could always use more support making things more universial.
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02:14<star_tech>unfortunately, I'm not that proficient at that kind of coding....
02:14<jm_>star_tech: as I said, see if wipefs can help
02:14<star_tech>different between wipefs and dd?
02:14<star_tech>difference
02:15<jm_>wipefs can report what it finds, it has --no-act switch
02:15<somiaj>debian devs are already spread quite thin (support 20,000+ packages, on 10 offical archietures.
02:15<jm_>it can make backups etc. -- https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/util-linux/wipefs.8.en.html
02:16<somiaj>as such there are edge cases users need to manually work around.
02:16<star_tech>I see...
02:17<somiaj>apple has it the easiest in this regard, they support a very closed system of hardware.
02:19<star_tech>true...but they have also set a bar that a lot of people expect....and there's nothing wrong with that....I do write code....and the "keeping up with Apple's features" does keep me on my toes...
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02:23<twb>Hey so anybody booting off NFS?
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02:23<twb>I worked out how to make it to NFSv4.2 instead of NFSv3
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02:24<twb>oh wait, this isn't #debian-live
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02:25<star_tech>hey, thanks guys for the help...I'm letting DD run...but I have to get some sleep...I'll try the installer again in a few hours....
02:26<somiaj>best of lucky, hopefully you get around this strange issue and get up and running.
02:26<star_tech>k...thanks
02:27<somiaj>you shoudn't need to zero the hole drive, the bug report I saw, they just canceled the dd after drinking a cup of coffee
02:28<star_tech>eh...whatever...I'll just let it run...catch a few hours of sleep, and see where it's at when I come back down to the shop....
02:28<somiaj>but this was a new bug for me, wonder if it happens whenever ufs was used on the drive, or just in some cases.
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02:29<somiaj>anyways, hopefully zeoring it out works, the bug report I found said it did. The other option is if you have a second disk, put grub there
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02:38<jc>found some info. "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1" will clear only the boot code part of the mbr, leaving the partition table intact. 512 will clear the whole thing. also, apparently lilo installs a new mbr when it installs itself, leaving partitions/filesystem intact. still works on stretch to my amazement.
02:39<twb>jc: you could use wipefs
02:39<jc>i'll look at that twb, thanks.
02:39<twb>You are right that the first 446 bytes are the MBR, the rest is the first 4 partitions, and lilo installs itself directly to those 446 bytes
02:39<twb>extlinux uses a static mbr.bin, and installs itself into the PBR of the /boot partition
02:40<twb>grub has a large number of modules, and tries to guess which will be needed at boot time, then compiles them together and IIRC puts them into the PBR, and a dynamic hook into the MBR
02:40<somiaj>jc: we already tried that
02:41<somiaj>for some reason it didn't clear the ufs error grub-install was having
02:41<twb>refind is EFI-only so it goes into the ESP, which is a small FAT32 GPT partition installed anywhere on the system.
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02:42<twb>I guess from context that you have a disk which has been half-wiped, so it kinda-sorta looks like some filesystems are still there, and the bootloader gets confused?
02:42<somiaj>twb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1360971 -- that is the bug the user ran into
02:43<somiaj>I don't know ufs file system, but it left something in the mbr, that even on a full install (debian isntaller wiped the parition table and created a new one, and new file systems) it didn't wipe the mbr
02:43<twb>Is the problem in os-prober or in grub?
02:43<somiaj>it is grub, grub-install fails
02:43<twb>Ah I see
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02:43<twb>grub was confused because of leftover BSD slice partitioning
02:44<twb>wipefs is the tool designed to solve these issues, without having to zero the entire disk
02:44<somiaj>yea, wasn't sure if this would happen anytime ufs was used, but user seemed a bit annoyed that the debian installer didn't wipe the mbr fully
02:45<twb>wipefs uses libblkid so it should wipe everything that mount/udev/md/lvm can see, at least, not sure about grub
02:47<jc>any problem leaving lilo installed, or should i reinstall grub? i like the retro look :)
02:47<somiaj>I think it still fully works
02:48<jc>great.
02:48<somiaj>and the hooks should reinstall lilo in the mbr each time a kernel change happens. Lilo also isn't good if you move the location of the kernel.
02:48<jc>np, i never move them. it did find both, also.
02:49<twb>lilo MOST of the time
02:49<somiaj>yea, the only issue is each kernel update requires reintalling lilo in the mbr, but I thin it uses the links /vmlinuz, and /vmlinuz.old and hooks to do this, so from the end user should be jsut fine.
02:49<twb>It records a block offset to the PBR, IIRC, or maybe direct to the kernel file
02:49<twb>So it will likely break when you upgrade your kernel unless you re-install lilo
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02:50<twb>extlinux avoids this problem by installing its PBR file with chattr +i
02:50<twb>(Which prevents the fs driver from relocating it)
02:50<jc>np, i can just do that, or boot another way and reinstall grub if need be.
02:50<twb>If your OS is EFI-capable, I *strongly* recommend using refind instead
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02:51<somiaj>but as said, I belive the debian kernel hooks will reinstall lilo each upgrade
02:51<jc>legacy mode all the way.
02:51<twb>I definitely dis-recommend grub because it has caused me many problems and NEVER solved problems
02:51<twb>somiaj: yes, it should, but that can go wrong e.g. if the disk order changed in the meantime
02:51<jc>grub used to be much simpler.
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02:52<somiaj>grub is kinda dead in my opinon with uefi, but so many are use to efi it will limp along
02:52<somiaj>I mean use to grub
02:52<twb>jc: grub was less capable, but was pretty still unreliable
02:53<twb>IMO most of the grief from grub2 is actually os-prober
02:53<jc>lilo brings back a lot of memories.
02:53<jm_>grub2 does not need os-prober for linux booting though
02:53<twb>correct
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02:54<twb>jm_: it DOES if you have >1 HDD, though
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02:55<jm_>twb: I suppose yes
02:55<twb>grub manual explicitly says it
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03:34*grove never understood why people liked grub so much, all the things they claimed it could unlike lilo (which was pretty much the alternative at the time) I could do with lilo, including things people said lilo couldn't do. But as I don't care too mess around with the boot process today, and the installer sets up grub in a working state that's what I use
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03:35<twb>I used to even have problems like, boot Debian intaller from a USB key, the final step, grub would install itself *onto the USB key*
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03:35<twb>So not only does the installed system have no bootloader, but I can't even boot the USB key anymore to repair it!
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03:37<jc>would it not boot your install from the usb key? and i wish there was some way to write the installer to the usb key and preserve the existing mbr on it.
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03:39<jm_>you can probably make that work using grub-imageboot or grml-rescueboot
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03:40<jc>hm, cometo think of it i haven't played with it much because i put the ISOs on my cell phone and boot them using drivedroid app.
03:41<jc>but i'll mess with those. thanks, jm_.
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03:53<annadane>i know this but it's late and i honestly don't remember, is it /user/home/pathtofile or /home/user/pathtofile?
03:53<jm_>/home/<username>
03:53<annadane>yeah, thanks
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05:05<cpaelzer>Hi, I've come by a bug that was hit by spam entries
05:05<cpaelzer>it seems a spammer used a bug update mail as-is and prepended a few spam-links
05:06<cpaelzer>now the bug is full of people hate-replying to stop spamming them
05:06<cpaelzer>is there a way to remove those bad entries to make the bug more readable again?
05:07<cpaelzer>see messages >#180 on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=848890
05:07<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/848890 in strongswan (open): «Revisiting "Ubuntu strongSwan changes"»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-12-20; last modified: 2017-12-06.
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05:22<Guest3499>got a question.
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07:31<danlii>During a dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie, the package database seems to have been corrupted. I have some packages that refuse to install, saying things like "ucfr: Attempt from package autofs to take /etc/auto.master away from package 3:3:3:3:3:3:3:3:autofs
07:32<danlii>What can I do?
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07:37<jm_>maybe inspect files in /var/lib/ucf, ucfr is a shell script, so sticking 'set -x' in it should yield more clues (make a backup first)
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07:38<jm_>ahh it also has -d#, so maybe find out what gets run and run it with -d# instead
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07:39<danlii>Ah, /var/lib/ucf was corrupted, it had all those junk 1:1:1:1, 2:2:2:2, 3:3:3:3 etc in it.
07:39<danlii>I removed those, and now it seems to be working.
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08:17<brod>hay bro?
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13:18<ahmad>hi
13:18<ahmad>hello
13:19<ahmad>is any one there ???
13:19<arto>ahmad: just ask, if it is about debian
13:20<ahmad>oke
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15:33<Ak-Strov72>hi, i've installed nvidia drivers (GTX1060) on debian 9, it runs on 32" (LG full hd), but when i connect to LG 19", blank screen
15:33<Ak-Strov72>can anybody help me? can i change initial resolution? HoW?
15:34<Ak-Strov72>hdmi port specifications (19"): max resolution 1440x900
15:34<Ak-Strov72>resolution on 32": 1900x1080
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15:36<jhutchins_wk>Ak-Strov72: Can you get a console?
15:36<jhutchins_wk>Ctrl-Alt-F1?
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15:40<lavamind>why wouldn't "modprobe crc32c_intel" load the module? there is no error in dmesg
15:41<lavamind>/proc/cpuinfo shows sse4_2 flag, which is the requirement
15:43<tda>you need to do that as root
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15:44<lavamind>tda: yep, doing it as root
15:47<Ak-Strov72>jhutchins_wk: yes, recovery mode option
15:47<jhutchins_wk>Ak-Strov72: You can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what it thinks is happening.
15:47<Ak-Strov72>ok, i'm going to try
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15:48<tda>lavamind: loads for me
15:48<jhutchins_wk>Ak-Strov72: Are you booting with the 19, or are you hot-patching to it?
15:48<tda>how do you check? just looking at output of lsmod?
15:49<Ak-Strov72>booting with the 19
15:49<tda>or might have already been loaded. i didn't check before the modprobe command
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15:53<lavamind>tda: what's your CPU model ?
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15:55<tda>2500k
15:55<tda>no k
15:56<lavamind>xeon e5620 here
15:57<lavamind>hrm crc32_pclmul is loaded
15:57<lavamind>seems its also a hardware accelerated crc32 implementation
15:58<Ak-Strov72>jhutchins_wk: device detected but none match those in the config file
15:58<Ak-Strov72>there are a Xorg.1.log
15:58<Ak-Strov72>too
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15:59<tda>i have that one loaded too. hard to tell what is using it. maybe xfs
16:00<Ak-Strov72>no screens found (EE)
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16:01<Ak-Strov72>Unloadmodule: "vesa", "fbdevhw", "fdev"
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16:02<jhutchins_wk>Ak-Strov72: I'd try it wotjout a cofig file.
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16:02<jhutchins_wk>Ak-Strov72: That sounds like the monitor isn't detected properly.
16:03<jhutchins_wk>Ak-Strov72: Run it on the 32" and see how the output compares.
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16:03<Ak-Strov72>at first installation, on 19",before nvidia drivers it no detected monitor, but rules
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16:04<Ak-Strov72>at 800x600
16:05<lavamind>tda: hrmm, crc32c_intel seems to require the "xmm4_2" cpu flag https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/arch/x86/crypto/crc32c-intel_glue.c#L238
16:05<Ak-Strov72>but, after nvidia drivers, 32"tv was detected correctly
16:05<lavamind>tda: does grep xmm4_2 /proc/cpuinfo work for you?
16:07<tda>no output
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16:07<lavamind>tda: yet lsmod | crc32c_intel shows it loaded ?
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16:08<lavamind>eep, missing grep ^
16:08<tda>yes
16:08<lavamind>huh
16:08<MILY>HOLA
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16:08<Ak-Strov72>hola
16:09<tda>try modprobe -v
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16:09<annadane>!es
16:09<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
16:09<annadane>MILY, Ak-Strov72, ^
16:10<MILY>PERDON ES Q NO ENTIENDO YO ABLO ESPAÑOL
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16:11<Ak-Strov72>jhutchins_wk: can i configure manually, in any file?
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16:11<Ak-Strov72>19" monitor
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16:12<Ak-Strov72>i know a few parameters
16:12<Ak-Strov72>frecuency, v&h sinc
16:13<MILY>HOLA ALGIEN ABLA ESPAÑOL
16:13<Ak-Strov72>algien, abla (eso no es español)
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16:14<MILY>perdon habla
16:14<Ak-Strov72>ejeje, que es broma
16:14<MILY>jjaajajaj ya se
16:14<Ak-Strov72>yo me he venido del canal español, porque allí nadie escribe nada
16:15<annadane>please use the spanish channel
16:15<annadane>por favor, usar #debian-e
16:15<annadane>#debian-es*
16:15<Ak-Strov72>spanish channel is a desert
16:16<lavamind>tda: ok it seems "X86_FEATURE_XMM4_2" means sse4_2 https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/66e1c94db3cd4e094de66a6be68c3ab6d17e0c52/tools/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h#L134
16:16<Ak-Strov72>but, i use english, here
16:16<MILY>no
16:16<MILY>de donde sos
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16:18<Ak-Strov72>i must go, thanks a lot, jhutchins_wk
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16:19<annadane>MILY, si nadie contesta, intente enviar un correo electrónico a debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
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16:20<MILY>dale gracias
16:20<annadane>si su problema es simple, puedo proporcionarle una respuesta a través de un traductor en línea
16:21<annadane>así que puedes intentar hacer tu pregunta, pero generalmente el canal intenta hablar inglés
16:21<MILY>ok
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16:23<ullbeking>Can’t remember if I asked this before, but...
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16:24<ullbeking>Is there a Debian distribution that is designed to be able to be run directly from a usb flash drive?
16:24<MILY>dale gracias
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16:25<ullbeking>I’ve done the thing where you install it onto a flash drive as though it were a hard disk, but it’s so slow and cranky
16:25<annadane>debian has live images
16:25<annadane>but for a limited selection of architectures
16:26<ullbeking>annadane: but can they be written to?
16:26<annadane>i'm not certain
16:26<annadane>here's a link anyway, https://www.debian.org/CD/live/
16:26<lavamind>ullbeking: what do you mean written to ?
16:26<ullbeking>lavamind: is Debian Live a read-only os?
16:27<lavamind>if you mean written to as in "use a browser to download a PDF and print it", then yes you can write to it
16:27<lavamind>ullbeking: it's not read-only
16:27<ullbeking>But it’s not persistent?
16:27<lavamind>but the available space is limited
16:27<lavamind>ullbeking: it's not persistent, correct
16:27<ullbeking>Right
16:27<ullbeking>I need persistence
16:29<lavamind>ullbeking: I think you can acheive this
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16:29<lavamind>you'd need to boot using an extra kernel command-line option: persistence
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16:30<lavamind>iirc that tells Debian Live to look for a filesystem on the computer that has the label "persistence"
16:31<lavamind>try with these instructions and let us know http://www.fabbnet.net/Live_Persistent.htm
16:31<tda>lavamind: i have ssse42
16:32<lavamind>tda: yeah, here too
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16:41<ullbeking>lavamind: thank you!!
16:42<ullbeking>this looks like just what i need :-)
16:42<ullbeking>i'll let you know how i get on
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17:07<lavamind>tda: ok I found the problem, I had "install crc32c_intel /bin/true" in /etc/modprobe.d
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17:08<tda>glad you figured it out and thanks for letting me know. did you figure that out from modprobe -v or something else?
17:09<lavamind>tda: the output from modprobe -v was "install /bin/true" which I tought was correct
17:10<lavamind>my problem stems from https://github.com/camptocamp/puppet-kmod/blob/master/manifests/install.pp
17:10<lavamind>where I assumed the default for kmod::install is to ... install the module
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17:10<lavamind>but the command being /bin/true, that simply *prevents* the module from ever being loaded
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17:11<lavamind>the solution was to just remove everything from modprobe.d: the kernel automatically loads the module
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17:11<tda>cool :)
17:11<lavamind>now I have to re-run 2 hours of fio tests /o\
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17:13<lavamind>I suspect that since I was using data=journal on my ext4 mount, hence checksumming all data being written with a software implementation, my test results are probably quite a ways off
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20:24<jessica523>I'm using networkmanager - is there a way to make it where wifi card is used to connect to all external hosts, and ethernet is static and only connected to one internal net, but have both running at same time? right now, when I plug in my ethernet, it kills my wifi
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20:27<somiaj>I think the issue there is routing, do you want to have access to both networks seperatally?
20:27<somiaj>though I'm unsure about network-manager, maybe it thinks you don't want multiple networks installed. You can check 'ip a' to see what the configuration is
20:28<somiaj>jessica523: https://askubuntu.com/questions/10741/how-to-set-up-dual-wired-and-wireless-connections
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20:28<somiaj>I think that might work, you have to configure the routes you want to use, else it assumes you want all traiffic to route though that connenction
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20:30<jessica523>somiaj, ok, I'll look more into it. I don't have network-manager-gnome, so I'm trying to find a way to do it with nmtui or via command line, but the answers there look like they'll help (the interfaces are similar)
20:30<lavamind>wondering if it's safe to mount an ext4 FS without write barriers when using an external journal device that has powerloss protection (eg. Intel DC3700 NVMe)
20:33<ach>jessica523 the easy way is do it by nat the other way is just with route
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20:36<ach>in even you can program anat just by route but it's a long time
20:37<somiaj>usually doing stuff like that conflicts with nm, so I would try go configue this in nm. But yes, sounds like a routing issue
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20:42<jessica523>somiaj, I figured it out - I just had to set up a custom route for ethernet in nmtui, so that traffic for 192.168.0.0/32 gets routed through wired, and everything else through wifi, and then select "never use this as default route" for ethernet connection. working great now :()
20:43<jessica523>that was supposed to be a :) lol
20:43<somiaj>or you have big lips
20:43<jessica523>haha yeah
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21:51<twosilly>有人没
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21:52<annadane>!zh
21:52<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
21:52<annadane>twosilly, ^
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