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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-06-03

---Logopened Sun Jun 03 00:00:38 2018
00:02<bassie>b17 I have also google and many, many different approaches
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00:03<kane>hi
00:03<kane>kab
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00:09<bassie>thank you guys, goodbye
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00:17<chow>Anybody here?
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01:32<vicky>hi3
01:33<vicky>how are you guys??
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03:30<yash>hay
03:30<yash>anyone
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03:30<annadane>!ask
03:30<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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03:33<Kratos[Debian]>Hi all. I was going to install tor on debian etc,but got a feeling there are files for ir left which idk yet.. How do I search for all the files for tor ONLY and remove only the files for Tor?
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03:47<Kratos[Debian]>MorpheusB: May i ask a question?
03:51<Kratos[Debian]>MorpheusB: Is Debian only for advanced users,even if u choose debian gnome,debian cinnamon,debian mint or w/e?
03:53<annadane>it's not particularly for advanced users
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03:53<Kratos[Debian]>annadane: I just want to use a linux that is for noob like me who dont know anything about it.. which one do u recommend? someone said linux mind cinnamon
03:54<annadane>well... i think mint and ubuntu sort of get recommended a bunch for beginners, but IMO debian isn't all that complicated
03:54<annadane>if you're only going to read one thing it'd be
03:54<annadane>!don't break debian
03:54<dpkg>dont break debian is probably https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
03:54<annadane>everything else you can kind of figure out afterwards
03:54<annadane>!newcomer
03:54<dpkg>Welcome to Debian! Here's some resources to help you on your merry way: The Debian Handbook: https://debian-handbook.info/ Reference manual: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ FAQ: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ - reading https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian is also a very good idea.
03:55<Kratos[Debian]>i just dont know what to do. this is the 3rd time i changed
03:55<annadane>i don't know about mint but ubuntu is based on debian testing/unstable, and people have complained of breakage, so i actually wouldn't recommend it
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03:58<annadane>and i guess the other thing to mention is that the default debian install is 100% free software by default, which can potentially confuse some users if they need non-free firmware for their devices and they don't work without them
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03:58<annadane>but even then, there's a firmware install image, as well as the ability to add the non-free repository later on for other things
04:00<annadane>the sort of general principles are: don't use the root account unless absolutely necessary, don't mix in external repositories, don't mix debian stable with testing/unstable, etc
04:00<annadane>there are exceptions to these rules but it requires you knowing what you're doing
04:00<jc>i think that's the main thing that makes people think debian is "hard", the drivers issues. you can pretty much avoid it by using the installers that include the non-free firmware.
04:02<annadane>but really: if unsure, ask! there are no stupid questions
04:02<annadane>that's what IRC is for
04:03<annadane>and i know a bunch of my debian knowledge just comes from hanging out on IRC channels and reading what people say
04:04<annadane>i've been pretty lazy about reading the actual documentation i linked above using !newcomer
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04:38<Kratos[Debian]>What is the programme called for debian to burn iso to usb?
04:39<annadane>you can basically just use cp
04:39<jelly>if it's a hybrid iso image you can ^
04:39<annadane>for a debian iso you can just cp /path/to/iso /dev/sdX where sdX is either sda or sdb depending on your lsblk output, and then "sync" when it's done
04:40<annadane>i know that basically sounds like greek, but there are install instructions!
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04:40<annadane>https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch04s03.html.en
04:41<annadane>if you mean non-debian iso, and just iso's in general, well, you can still use cp, except you'd have the USB mounted in that case (as opposed to actually putting a debian iso on a USB for installation to a computer, where it must be unmounted)
04:42<jelly>it is unlikely that "burn iso to usb" means "copy .iso file to filesystem already on usb" annadane
04:43<annadane>pfft.
04:43<annadane>you and your logic.
04:43<annadane>i'm going to bed soon so you get to deal with this one :D
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05:55<arosusi>Anyone of you experienced the effect of circling voices?
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06:14<jelly>arosusi: is this a tech question about something a piece of software running on Debian does?
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06:18*jelly points to #debian-offtopic or #moocows for random chat
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06:34<arosusi>jelly: No it's a universal question.
06:39<bremner>!chat
06:39<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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09:50<Orange34>Hello, I got some problem with my tl-wn722n tp-link wifi usb adaptor on debian 9.4 updated fresh install (just installed)
09:51<Orange34>I installed the package "firmware-atheros" and after that I can see the networks near me within the gnome network manager
09:52<Orange34>I can try to connect as it ask my for the network password; but after I write the password it doesnt connect
09:52<Orange34>it just make some time trying to connect but finally it doesn't connecto to the network...
09:55<Orange34>May someone please help me?
09:56<Orange34>btw, I'm sure it's not blacklisted MAC or something like that
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11:33<stripe>hi all, stretch-xfce, trying to mount hard drive with thunar, "not authorised" error instead of asking for password. is there a way to get this functionality back? or should I mount them via the terminal? cheers :)
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12:37<Sp4rkl0n>hi
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12:51<r0mm>is someone here?
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12:53<r0mm>is someone alive here,come
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13:02<amacater>!ask
13:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:37<Darth_Vader>can anyone tell me best way to learn python?
13:38<petn-randall>Darth_Vader: python comes with a good, verbose documentation: https://docs.python.org/3/
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13:41<Darth_Vader>petn-randall: thanks
13:42<Darth_Vader>is university education, college degree necessary for ethical hacking career?
13:43<petn-randall>Darth_Vader: "ethical hacking"??
13:43<petn-randall>Darth_Vader: Are you a Kali or Parrot user?
13:43<Darth_Vader>kali linux.
13:43<petn-randall>I'd say the only end of an ethical hacking career is becoming a script kiddie.
13:43<petn-randall>!kali
13:43<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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13:44<petn-randall>Darth_Vader: You can find the other Kali users in this channel above. ^^^
13:44<Darth_Vader>okay thanks
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13:48<coruja>petn-randall, smart question ;)
13:48<petn-randall>coruja: I've been here long enough to smell them out a mile away.
13:48<coruja>i see
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13:51<Darth_Vader>who ? us newbie? do other newbie ask silly question like me?
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13:52<petn-randall>Darth_Vader: There are a lot of clueless people who watch cowboy hacking movies and want to become hackers, without having a basic clue about computers or Linux.
13:52<coruja>i would rather put it like 'misled user' asking for support at a wrong location
13:52<petn-randall>Darth_Vader: It's usually Kali or Parrot users who struggle with the IRC client and end up connectin to #debian.
13:53<somiaj>Darth_Vader: One thing to note, kali linux may not be the best linux to learn on. Their FAQ even says as much.
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13:55<jelly>Darth_Vader: it's by no means necessary but you need to learn how things work in depth to figure out common vulnerabilities
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13:57<jelly>so an equivalent of a C programming course, data structures and algorithms course, OS design, probably works out to about 1-2 years of useful stuff from a college
13:59<Darth_Vader>no, i have talked to the guys in freenode i just gathering my answer and knowledge i haven't watched any hacker movies yet. in which linux i should learn ? i dont have any idea.
13:59<jelly>it does not matter, pick a good mainstream platform. Doesn't even have to be linux.
14:00<coruja>some people here would suggest debian (not surprising though)
14:01<somiaj>Darth_Vader: one thing you get when choosing a linux distro, is the support community. We here support Debian, but other distros have good communities as well. Kali is kinda specialized, so may not be the best place to start.
14:01<somiaj>Darth_Vader: and with windows WSL, you can learn a lot from inside of windows, or even just on a virutal machine using software like virtualbox.
14:02<Darth_Vader>thanks, jelly. are you guys programmer or security researcher? yes, somiaj i think i'll do that but i never used windows before
14:02<petn-randall>Darth_Vader: Why do you want to become a penetration tester then?
14:03<somiaj>Darth_Vader: I'm just a desktop hobbiest who likes to support debian, and users of debian.
14:03<jelly>neither, but working as a sysadmin have to know something about all of that stuff
14:04<Darth_Vader>i saw a documentation on how security researcher been making world a better place haha
14:05<petn-randall>Darth_Vader: Was that movie "Hackers"? :)
14:05<Darth_Vader>then i research about security researcher
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14:06<Darth_Vader>no no, its not a movie it was a speech
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14:07<somiaj>Darth_Vader: well you need to start somewhere, and maybe just running linux is a good place. But you will have to commit a few years (at least) into learning things well.
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14:10<Darth_Vader>i will watch a movie "citizenfour " tomorrow. yes, somiaj i will start from the basic i guess
14:10<mnuhmnuh>Darth_Vader: wiki.debian.org is full of tutorials, and there's many others. i'm trying https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_Tutorials
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14:13<Darth_Vader>mnuhmnuh: i have it bookmarked,thanks
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14:16<Darth_Vader>anyone watched "citizenfour"????
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14:54<zyperx>hi
14:54<zyperx>can anyone teachme hacking
14:54<zyperx>join pentest
14:54<somiaj>are you running kali linux?
14:54<zyperx>join<linux>
14:55<jalcine>^
14:55<jalcine>100% for sure way
14:55<zyperx>im running parrot os
14:55<somiaj>!parrot
14:55<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
14:55<drakonis>so, why doesn't parrot patch their irc channels to not join #debian or oftc
14:56<drakonis>would save so much effort
14:56<somiaj>drakonis: not for parrot, they would have to apply those patches each time they upgrade the version of every irc client from debian.
14:56<somiaj>it is easier to just pull the debian source, and build the package, and be done with it.
14:56<zyperx>wait
14:57<zyperx>can anyone telll me about hex chat
14:57<zyperx>is it for anonymity
14:57<zyperx>or like a secret group or stuff
14:57<drakonis>oh boy.
14:57<drakonis>hexchat is an irc client
14:57<zyperx>any channels were i can start learning something
14:57<drakonis>i typed channel instead of client
14:57<drakonis>hmmm
14:57<drakonis>did mr robot show linux again?
14:57<zyperx>jeez
14:58<drakonis>okay so
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14:58<petn-randall>zyperx: Do you have a Debian support question? If not, please switch to a more appropriate channel?
14:58<drakonis>hmm welp
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14:58<drakonis>okay look, this isn't a hacking channel, the hacking you're thinking of is normally known as social engineering
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14:59<zyperx>dude
14:59<jalcine>drakonis: lol
14:59<drakonis>lol
14:59<zyperx>social engineering
14:59<drakonis>its what they call it lmao
14:59<jalcine>this is how I'm starting my sunday
15:00<zyperx>do u have brains
15:00<jalcine>it is
15:00<drakonis>i agree
15:00<drakonis>zyperx, certainly.
15:00<jalcine>nah that's legit a whole security field
15:00<petn-randall>!ot
15:00<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
15:00<jalcine>most of the time, the computers are fine; it's the people who are using it that break them down
15:00<jalcine>(but this goes into computer design and design in general, which is #-offtopic)
15:00<petn-randall>jalcine, zyperx, this is a Debian support channel. Please take it elsewhere.
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15:02<Darth_Vader>zyperx: you're with me come to freenode channel
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15:02<jalcine>lol
15:02<somiaj>this would still be offtopic in the freenode #debian channel.
15:04<Darth_Vader>sometime you guys should go off topic. thanks for helping me out everyone.
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15:05<petn-randall>Some people need to learn to read. Especially about the offtopic channel not even 10 messages ago.
15:06<jalcine>annnd this is why people think IRC is dead
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15:51<petn-randall>jalcine: Not sure how this would be related to offtopic discussions.
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16:41<DarkiYahu>was this the offical channel?
16:42<Out`Of`Control>si
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16:43<somiaj>!oftc move
16:43<dpkg>irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html. Operators and bots (see <fact sharing>) will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on one or other network. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html
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16:44<somiaj>in general, outside of the main support channel #debian, all other #debian-foo channels are on oftc.net
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16:47<DarkiYahu>somiaj, hay again :)
16:48<DarkiYahu>main support channel debian would be this one?
16:49<DarkiYahu>Iv pretty much made some stupid moves here on linus the last coupe of 20 minutes
16:49<DarkiYahu>linux
16:49<somiaj>it depends, this and #debian on irc.freenode.net are both support channels for debian stable.
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16:49<DarkiYahu>okay, great
16:50<somiaj>if running testing/unstable, #debian-next, and there are other speciality focused channels on this network as well.
16:50<DarkiYahu>Ahh okay - well not for me. Have enough on my hands then to test unstable stuff
16:50<DarkiYahu>:)
16:50<DarkiYahu>I need to figure out how to make some kind of auto login for irc
16:51<DarkiYahu>I just lost the whole list because the irc program closed
16:51<somiaj>network issues happen often enough, don't expect staying connected to keep logs. If you want to keep logs do so.
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16:52<DarkiYahu>more like thinking of having an auto connect to all the networks and channels
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17:15<grove>DarkiYahu: auto-connecting is a feature of your irc-client, not something that depends on the os
17:16<DarkiYahu>... well, I need to setup the HexChat for doing it
17:16<DarkiYahu>somehow
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17:19<grove>I've never used hexchat, so I can't tell you, but I know I set it up in my irssi a long time ago (and then I've just copied the configuration file since, so I don't even remember how I did it in irssi). But it's still more of a hexchat issue than a Debian issue - maybe you will get help here, but else you might want to look somewhere focused on hexchat
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17:31<jhutchins_wk>I would imagine that reading the docs for hexchat would help a lot, as it does with irssi.
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20:43<twb>I'm seeing very strange behaviour, can someone tell me if it's "everyone" or "just me"?
20:43<twb>In an XFCE desktop, install gnome-games, and set the GTK theme to Adwaita.
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20:43<twb>Some gnome-game windows use light color palette, or dark color palette, depending on whether you choose Adwaita or Adwaita Dark.
20:44<twb>But some gnome-games seem to be "stuck" on the dark color pallette, unless I switch away from Adwaita entirely
20:44<twb>Turning off the computer, erasing $HOME entirely (while off), then trying again, does not help.
20:45<twb>So far my best guess is the gnome-games people have unilaterally decided that games are better off viewed in a dark theme, and are ignoring user preference --- but then why is it only SOME gnome-games?
20:45<twb>http://cyber.com.au/~twb/tmp/32682-gnome-games-inconsistent-WTF.jpg
20:45<twb>http://cyber.com.au/~twb/tmp/32682-gnome-games-inconsistent-WTF-2.jpg
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20:49<twb>src/swell-foop.c: g_object_set ((GObject*) _tmp0_, "gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme", TRUE, NULL);
20:49<twb>WTF
20:49<twb>It's literally overriding user preferences
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20:56<twb>Also apparently irc.gnome.org isn't a thing anymore, so I can't bitch at them directly. I guess they've all moved onto some proprietary closed-source US-controlled fake IRC
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21:18<sdk>twb: ...irc.gnome.org is up and they also use matrix.org. Instead of bitching you could do a quick research next time.
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21:18<twb>sdk: I tried to connect to irc.gnome.org and my client timed out
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21:19<sdk>twb: then there's probably a problem between you and the server.
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21:19<twb>Yeah looks like it
21:19<twb>Maybe my client tried to do ircs by default without me noticing...
21:19<twb>nmap confirms 6667 is open
21:21<sdk>isn't ircs using 6697 as default port
21:21<twb>Yeah my client is definitely defaulting to 6667, no encryption, for irc.gnome.org
21:21*twb tries irssi
21:22<twb>OK it must be my host specifically because another one in my /24 is working fine, with both irssi and emacs
21:22<twb>Which is really weird
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21:37<simo>hi
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21:37<Guest4567>how are y
21:38<Guest4567>no
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