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| 01:09 | <n00b> | Question: Wanting to have transparency in the gnome-terminal in Gnome3, they have thus far removed it from the options. I've heard of devilspie and there is a patch out there from Fedora that adds this in. Has anyone used any of these methods to regain this capability? If so, are there any problems with either or? |
| 01:11 | <somiaj> | use compton |
| 01:12 | <somiaj> | I belive this can do transparence of any window, there are other tools that can make terminals transparent too. |
| 01:12 | <somiaj> | n00b: you can add a patch and rebuild the package if you like, but you would then have to matain it, and deal with any bugs the patch causes. There are also terms like aterm you could use wich support root transparency already |
| 01:14 | <n00b> | alright, i'll give compton a try. Thanks! |
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| 01:16 | <somiaj> | found a post that gave an example like opacity-rule = ["85:class_g = 'Gnome-terminal'"]; for compton config file to set Gnome-termial at 85% opacity |
| 01:17 | <n00b> | link please? |
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| 01:17 | <somiaj> | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/5w6w2f/compton_terminal_transparency_opacityrule_problems/ |
| 01:17 | <n00b> | thx! |
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| 03:17 | <twb> | Can lsof (or similar) tell the difference between files open for reading vs. writing ? |
| 03:17 | <twb> | My goal is to answer the question "what's doing all the writes to the rootfs?" |
| 03:18 | <somiaj> | maybe iotop could tell you that. |
| 03:18 | <somiaj> | I haven't used either much. |
| 03:18 | <twb> | I'm looking at iostat currently which just measures the total reads & writes per blk dev |
| 03:19 | <twb> | urgh perl installed in /home/crappyapp |
| 03:19 | <somiaj> | seems lsof has a FD which is followed by the access, so after the FD it shoudl be r, w, or u |
| 03:21 | <somiaj> | yea under the FD column I se things like 12u or 17w, saing what the access is, though most thigns seem to be u (read+write) on my system, so that may not help much |
| 03:22 | <annadane> | for extra fun install python in /bin/perl and perl in /bin/python :P (or wherever it's usually stored, mentally replace the correct locations for the joke to be funny) |
| 03:22 | <somiaj> | sounds like extra breakage |
| 03:22 | <twb> | most of mine say "mem" or "txt" ;-) |
| 03:22 | <somiaj> | and it is /usr/bin/ |
| 03:22 | <annadane> | yeah yeah yeah yeah that |
| 03:23 | <annadane> | details details |
| 03:23 | <twb> | annadane: see also emacs/etc/jokes/ed.txt |
| 03:24 | <somiaj> | to me, to much system stuff requires on python and perl, messing with the versions of the intrupriter can be enough to break your system, much less switching the interupriters |
| 03:24 | <somiaj> | and i'm bad at jokes, I shoudl goto bed |
| 03:24 | <twb> | $ sudo lsof / | grep -vFw -e mem -e rtd -e txt -e cwd -e DEL | wc -l ==> 1304 |
| 03:25 | <twb> | that's a managable list at least |
| 03:25 | <twb> | there's probably a much less wrong way to do that |
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| 03:27 | <jm_> | maybe something from https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/ can help |
| 03:27 | <twb> | bleh |
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| 03:27 | <twb> | I'm really just waiting for rsync to finish |
| 03:28 | <jm_> | hah tools/filetop: File reads and writes by filename and process. Top for files. Examples. |
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| 07:24 | <dragon12> | hi! |
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| 07:32 | <userAb> | Hello? |
| 07:32 | <bremner> | !ask |
| 07:32 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 07:35 | <userAb> | I have a problem with metasploit framework; The seasons always died after second. How can i fix this? |
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| 07:36 | <twb> | are you using kali? |
| 07:36 | <userAb> | no debian |
| 07:36 | <twb> | OK just checking :-) |
| 07:36 | <twb> | I don't know about metasploit personally |
| 07:37 | <bremner> | what does "seasons" mean here? |
| 07:37 | <duclicsic> | guessing sessions? |
| 07:38 | <twb> | I read that as "sessions" |
| 07:38 | <duclicsic> | is metasploit even packaged for debian? |
| 07:38 | <userAb> | yes it us sessions sorry |
| 07:38 | <bremner> | that was my next question ;) |
| 07:38 | <duclicsic> | seems like a question that should really be directed at their own support channels |
| 07:39 | <bremner> | !metasploit |
| 07:39 | <dpkg> | The Metasploit Framework is a penetration testing system and development platform, used for authoring and executing exploit code against a target machine. Not in Debian, <RFP> in bug #323420. http://www.metasploit.com/ #metasploit on irc.freenode.net. |
| 07:39 | <bremner> | userAb: ^ |
| 07:39 | <twb> | bremner: good catch |
| 07:39 | <dragon12> | I have an error with clamav |
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| 07:40 | <dragon12> | Access to all Sanesecurity mirror sites failed - Check for connectivity issues |
| 07:40 | <dragon12> | or signature database name(s) misspelled in the script's configuration file. |
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| 07:45 | <me> | someone here who can explain how 'ghost phisher' works |
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| 07:47 | <duclicsic> | me: that's another question that has nothing to do with debian |
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| 07:47 | <duclicsic> | this channel is for supporting people with questions/problems relating to debian [old]stable |
| 07:48 | <me> | sorry didn't know that |
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| 07:48 | <petn-randall> | me: Parrot or Kali? |
| 07:50 | <duclicsic> | they already said they're on debian |
| 07:50 | <satta> | there is a dpkg bot shortcut for metasploit?! huh |
| 07:50 | <duclicsic> | but the question is still off-topic really |
| 07:51 | <me> | + |
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| 07:58 | <petn-randall> | duclicsic: How do you know it's the same user? |
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| 08:27 | <bassie> | hi everxbody |
| 08:29 | <webmind> | hoi |
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| 08:31 | <bassie> | I'd like to ask You guys about Google Chrome!!! Can I install this without a problem??? |
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| 08:34 | <peter1138> | The problem is you'd be installing Google Chrome. |
| 08:34 | <bassie> | peter yes |
| 08:34 | <twb> | !chrome |
| 08:34 | <dpkg> | chrome is, like, Mozilla's term for a theme or skin, or "Google Chrome", a web browser by Google based on Chromium, ask me about <chromium>. For VIA UniChrome / Chrome9 support, ask me about <openchrome>. |
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| 08:37 | <bassie> | dpkg , computer! Firefox isn't updated anymore and was crashing more often than google |
| 08:37 | <dpkg> | bassie: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 08:39 | <bassie> | dpkg I don't even understand this word: "unparseable" |
| 08:39 | <dpkg> | bassie: wish i knew |
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| 08:40 | <bremner> | bassie: dpkg is a bot |
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| 08:42 | <bassie> | dpkg and I had today 70.000 viruses (javascript), changed to *.txt(s) |
| 08:42 | <dpkg> | bassie: no idea |
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| 08:45 | <bassie> | Bremner few days ago, you all told me to get debian, so now I have it already!!! |
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| 08:48 | <bassie> | ...and it is fucking 3 times slower |
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| 09:05 | <saprago> | Out of curiosity: are Debian finances public? Like: donations, money spent for conferences, ...? |
| 09:08 | <bremner> | https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Treasurer |
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| 09:12 | <bremner> | I guess the answer is "in principle, yes". |
| 09:12 | <bremner> | in practice, you might have to work a bit to find the details. |
| 09:15 | <saprago> | bremner: thanks :) |
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| 09:34 | <diamond> | hi? |
| 09:34 | <diamond> | someone is conected? |
| 09:35 | <grove> | !someone |
| 09:35 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 10:14 | <Guest4827> | i can't open a .elf file on my ubuntu how to fix this? |
| 10:14 | <Blacker47> | !ubuntu |
| 10:14 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 10:16 | <Guest4827> | how can i change to #ubuntu? |
| 10:17 | <blast007> | /server chat.freenode.net followed by /join #ubuntu |
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| 11:37 | <Solution-X> | Good morning, everyone. This is a question specific to proxmox but as it is debian-based, I figured I'd give it a go here. I'm working on getting openvswitch figured out but haven't been able to get my configs to work. I'm sure I'm missing something basic but haven't been able to track it down yet. Could you please take a look at my configs and tell me if you can spot my error? https://pastebin.com/wTjxGDHN |
| 11:39 | <Blacker47> | !proxmox |
| 11:39 | <dpkg> | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 11:40 | <cascardo> | or look for #openvswitch |
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| 11:40 | <cascardo> | on freenode, also |
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| 11:44 | <Solution-X> | cascardo thanks for the reference, I'll check it out |
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| 13:27 | <denisbr> | Hi, when I try to boot in the debian, I get the error: error: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found ... Anybody can help me? |
| 13:27 | <petn-randall> | denisbr: What happened that lead to this situation? |
| 13:28 | <denisbr> | petn-randall, I only install the debian 9 in my laptop in the EFI Mode (because from win 10) |
| 13:29 | <somiaj> | are you sure it was efi mode, and also did you do i386 or amd64? |
| 13:29 | <petn-randall> | denisbr: How did you prepare the installation image? |
| 13:30 | <denisbr> | petn-randall, I downloaded the iso into win 10 and create a usb image using RUFUS |
| 13:30 | <petn-randall> | denisbr: Ah, that's the problem. |
| 13:30 | <petn-randall> | !rufus |
| 13:30 | <dpkg> | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 13:31 | <somiaj> | It also sounds like you used legacy boot, a reinstall might be best, to avoid any other issues trying to fix this install. |
| 13:31 | <denisbr> | somiaj, but, the installation was using efi mode |
| 13:31 | <petn-randall> | denisbr: Use win32diskimager to prepare the USB stick, and also make 100% sure that you don't boot it in legacy mode. That means setting the BIOS to "UEFI only" and disabling any compat mode, often called "CSM". |
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| 13:32 | <petn-randall> | denisbr: It likely still booted in legacy mode, judging from legacy grub getting installed. |
| 13:33 | <somiaj> | denisbr: are you positive, rufus might overwrite the boot data making it legacy. Though aparentally I found that the error could occur due an efi issue with secure boot. |
| 13:33 | <denisbr> | petn-randall, somiaj But, i can't understand When I installed the debian, display a screen similar to https://i.stack.imgur.com/UzxgF.png |
| 13:33 | <somiaj> | but overall grub issues with rufus is common, so probably some error with installing grub, you could try to recover the intall, but the install is usually quick enough it is easiest to write the image with win32diskimager and restart. |
| 13:35 | <denisbr> | somiaj, ok |
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| 13:35 | <somiaj> | denisbr: the debian boot images are hybrid (they can boot legacy, efi, and usb and cdrom), as such things like rufus can sometimes mangle how they boot (which in terms confuses the grub install) |
| 13:36 | <denisbr> | somiaj, ok |
| 13:36 | <somiaj> | rufus usually assumes the image is an .iso and needs additional stuff to boot on usb, hence magnling the image. |
| 13:36 | <somiaj> | also make sure you boot efi, since the image supports both. The first boot screen should let you know on it if you are actually booted into efi mode |
| 13:38 | <denisbr> | somiaj, Then, it's was first screen when I start the install https://i.stack.imgur.com/UzxgF.png |
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| 13:39 | <somiaj> | oh good, then yes, probably some issue with the grub install. You could just try to fix it |
| 13:39 | <somiaj> | !fixmbr |
| 13:39 | <dpkg> | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 13:40 | <somiaj> | your choice |
| 13:41 | <denisbr> | somiaj, I'm now on the debian (i can do boot using https://medium.com/@froositadwi/how-i-fixed-error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found-b44c5ac7ff31 tips) |
| 13:41 | <denisbr> | The ways for fixmbr is only using debian install disk or I can execute the commands on the my debian installation ? |
| 13:42 | <petn-randall> | denisbr: You didn't download the current installer if that's the picture you got ... :) |
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| 13:43 | <denisbr> | The picture is a sample that I get images google |
| 13:43 | <denisbr> | but is similar for my instalation screen |
| 13:44 | <peter1138> | Maybe you should make sure it's actually exactly what you get. |
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| 13:45 | <denisbr> | peter1138, sorry ? |
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| 13:58 | <somiaj> | denisbr: usually to rescue grub you need to boot into the installer or a rescue image. If you can get into your debian image, you can do that from there too |
| 13:59 | <denisbr> | ok |
| 13:59 | <petn-randall> | denisbr: You can use the installer to chroot into your installation and fix it, however you *must* boot the installer in EFI mode to access the ESP and fix it all up. |
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| 14:10 | <roberto> | hello is possible install metatrader 4 in to me debian new si in formate .exe |
| 14:10 | <bremner> | probably not. Is it a windows program? |
| 14:10 | <somiaj> | .exe files are not for linux. You could see if it runs in wine, and use wine to run it. But you'll have to look into wine and wine support for that. |
| 14:11 | <bremner> | yeah, I included wine support in "probably not" ;) |
| 14:11 | <roberto> | ok thanks |
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| 14:13 | <roberto> | is possible download wine to prove install mt4.exe? |
| 14:14 | <roberto> | pardon pruve |
| 14:14 | <annadane> | you'll need to "dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt update && apt install wine wine32" |
| 14:15 | <somiaj> | you don't install an exe file, and debian provides wine and wine-developent, in stretch and stretch-backports. winehq also has decent wine packages of newer versions built for stretch |
| 14:15 | <annadane> | and then wine has its own installation method for the programs within it |
| 14:15 | <dboles> | https://wiki.debian.org/Wine |
| 14:15 | <annadane> | though generally if you associate exe files with wine i think it does it automatically |
| 14:16 | <roberto> | ok right, ian pruve thanks me bro |
| 14:17 | <roberto> | pardon i am |
| 14:17 | <annadane> | i'd read some of the documentation like that wiki link dboles posted or the official wine documentation on their site, it's a little confusing if it's your first time using it |
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| 15:15 | <osdjla> | From what I've read, firmware update is required for Spectre v2 mitigation, and based on changelogs, only the stretch-backports version has it? This also means that on affected hardware Debian without non-free (due to firmware) is not secure? |
| 15:16 | <annadane> | osdjla, that's kind of the gist, though spectre is harder to exploit than meltdown |
| 15:16 | <annadane> | but yes, the microcode in stable doesn't have the newer fixes, IIRC |
| 15:16 | <annadane> | in backports, as you say, and in non-free |
| 15:16 | <blast007> | osdjla: is you're referring to CPU microcode, some BIOS updates may embed that updated microcode |
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| 15:23 | <somiaj> | osdjla: as blast007 mentioned, by firmware update, it is better to get the update from your hardware vendor and not rely on the micorcode. The new microcode has had multiple bugs so debian is being cautious about putting it in stretch. |
| 15:23 | <osdjla> | no BIOS updates for older motherboards |
| 15:23 | <annadane> | is it? news to me, i've always just installed the intel-microcode (in sid in my case) |
| 15:24 | <somiaj> | ,v intel-microcode |
| 15:24 | <judd> | Package: intel-microcode on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 1.20150121.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 3.20161104.1~deb8u1~bpo7+1; jessie-backports/non-free: 3.20170511.1~bpo8+1; jessie/non-free: 3.20170707.1~deb8u1; stretch/non-free: 3.20170707.1~deb9u1; jessie-backports-sloppy/non-free: 3.20180425.1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports/non-free: 3.20180425.1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 3.20180425.1; sid/non-free: |
| 15:24 | <judd> | 3.20180425.1 |
| 15:24 | <somiaj> | annadane: they only made the new microcode available via stretch-backports. It was never put into stretch as a security fix (though all the meltdown stuff was) |
| 15:25 | <annadane> | right... but typically the answer is "install x package from the repository" so the meltdown/spectre situation is weird |
| 15:25 | <annadane> | like GPU stuff, install the repo package, not from nvidia's website or whatever |
| 15:25 | <somiaj> | and it does depend on the mobo manfacuture, microcode is nice, but if avaiable the firmware update from hardware vendor is prefered. |
| 15:26 | <annadane> | i'd probably get it from the vendor if i knew how and kind of assumed the repo package was from the vendor anyway |
| 15:26 | <somiaj> | it isn't a package |
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| 15:26 | <somiaj> | it is a firmware update, which means you have to flash the firmware on your hardware. This is not part of any os (though more and more the update can be done via os). On some of my machines I had to use freedos, on others the newer efi firmware cna update it from a vfat usb |
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| 15:27 | <annadane> | sigh |
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| 15:28 | <osdjla> | isn't it loaded at boot? assuming it's the package not a BIOS update. and not one-time? |
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| 16:48 | <Synthea> | I have problems with KDE, despite that I've set my laptop so that it won't go into suspension by tweaking energy saving and says that the power management module isn't running |
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| 16:49 | <Synthea> | And sometimes phonon-vlc-backends stop working without reason |
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| 17:07 | <annadane> | Synthea, on debian stable, plasma 5.8? |
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| 17:13 | <mdx0> | I have problems with my network; at boot up I get the following msg: a start job is running for raise network interfaces, |
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| 17:18 | <Synthea> | annadane, yes |
| 17:19 | <somiaj> | mdx0: check /etc/network/interfaces and figure out what interface is either not comming up or taking a long time |
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| 18:00 | <mdx0> | iwconfig tell me that some settings not configured properly |
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| 18:07 | <mdx0> | where is the configure file which i can feed with the right settings? or should i use iwconfig by hand? |
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| 18:09 | <mdx0> | there is a maybe a problem with the networkmanager and a overwritten configure file?? |
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| 18:12 | <Brigo> | mdx0, why are you using iwconfig? |
| 18:13 | <Brigo> | mdx0, there is a config file but not for iwconfig. |
| 18:13 | <mdx0> | because i don't know it better =) |
| 18:14 | <Brigo> | if you are using networkmanager -as you should- you don't need to ise iwconfig or anything else. |
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| 18:17 | <mdx0> | okay, I have the nm-applet but I don't know all of the right network settings, on a other pc I have a working configuration |
| 18:19 | <DennisTheTiger> | Running Stable, wm is xfce. I've got a script I use that should be firing an image viewer within X. The catch is that I want the terminal from which the script fires to retain focus. I'm at a loss for how to do this, and my google fu has failed me. Help? |
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| 18:20 | <mdx0> | there are a few options which i'm not be able to fill in bcz I don't know |
| 18:21 | <somiaj> | DennisTheTiger: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/156515/how-to-forbid-windows-from-stealing-focus-in-xfce4?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa -- might work, though that is for all windows. |
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| 18:21 | <somiaj> | you may have to dive into the window mangaer (xfvwm) and see if you can configure it to not allow certain windows to grab focus. |
| 18:22 | <DennisTheTiger> | soniaj: Yeah, I saw that stackexchnage post, but it doesn't quite do what I want. |
| 18:22 | <DennisTheTiger> | somiaj: The second option may be a better bet, though.... |
| 18:23 | <somiaj> | and you are going to have trouble finding info about xfvwm without fvwm hits, since not many configure xfvwm without using the xfce tools |
| 18:23 | <mdx0> | the networkManager don't shows the interface in GUI but in /etc/network/interfaces, though |
| 18:23 | <somiaj> | oh sorry, it is xfwm -- grr I can't type |
| 18:23 | <DennisTheTiger> | somiaj: Eh, it happens. =) |
| 18:23 | <somiaj> | DennisTheTiger: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/97871/open-xfce-window-manager-s |
| 18:23 | <DennisTheTiger> | And sorry 'bout the name misspelling. |
| 18:24 | <somiaj> | well xfce is the desktop enviorment, xfwm is the window manager that would control the focus of windows. What it is capible of I don't know, but I'm finding various hits on configuring it |
| 18:25 | <Synthea> | annadane, I'm here again |
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| 18:30 | <txt-file> | I just upgraded from wheezy to jessie and therefore from postgresql 9.1 to 9.4. Used "sudo pg_upgradecluster -v 9.4 9.1 main" to copy my databases over. |
| 18:30 | <txt-file> | Sadly I am missing now 2 databases. Even if I connect to 9.1 they are gone. |
| 18:32 | <txt-file> | commands I used to upgrade debian and the postgresql cluster: https://paste.debian.net/1028274/ |
| 18:34 | <somiaj> | did you make a backup first? |
| 18:35 | <txt-file> | somiaj: nope … |
| 18:35 | <somiaj> | I don't know postgresql, so unsure. Go check the actual database files in /var, maybe that can help |
| 18:36 | <mdx0> | Brigo, which is the file i can edit for configuration? |
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| 18:43 | <mdx0> | i guess the interfaces file |
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| 18:43 | <peter1138> | txt-file, were there other databases? |
| 18:43 | <mdx0> | wlp2s0 is not managed |
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| 18:48 | <txt-file> | peter1138: yes. At least one for nextcloud and one for freshrss. |
| 18:48 | <peter1138> | They migrated properly to 9.4? Are they still available in 9.1? |
| 18:49 | <txt-file> | peter1138: They are neither in 9.4 nor in 9.1 |
| 18:49 | <peter1138> | Eh |
| 18:49 | <peter1138> | I meant, are there other databases that are still there? |
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| 18:56 | <txt-file> | peter1138: Some databases got migrated. |
| 19:00 | <peter1138> | Do they still exist in 9.1 or only in 9.4? |
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| 19:00 | <txt-file> | 9.1 and 9.4 are currently identical |
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| 19:02 | <peter1138> | Hmm, ok. Sorry don't have any suggestions then :( |
| 19:02 | <peter1138> | Maybe try a dedicated postgresql irc channel. |
| 19:02 | <peter1138> | Not using autopostgresqlbackup? |
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| 19:06 | <txt-file> | Got help in #postgresql and figured out that I already used 9.4. But one hour ago I have overwritten 9.4. |
| 19:09 | <txt-file> | peter1138: I think I will start today using it. |
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| 19:13 | <peter1138> | Oh that's awkward :( |
| 19:14 | <txt-file> | That is the problem with not doing it full time. Not enough knowledge how to do it right/good. |
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| 19:43 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. |
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| 21:17 | <srg___> | Hello. Is there a preferred ntp daemon (ntpd, openntpd, or chrony) for inside a Debian VM? The VM will be booted and shut down at least once a day (it's not a server). |
| 21:18 | <srg___> | If it doesn't matter I'm inclined to go with openntpd as that's what I've u sed in the past |
| 21:18 | <somiaj> | systemd even has its own default one that is enabled. Use the one you like |
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| 21:25 | <srg___> | Ok sounds good, thanks |
| 21:25 | <srg___> | I wasn't sure if one daemon was particularly useful for a VM that may be paused (when the host machine hibernates) and rebooted somewhat often |
| 21:26 | <srg___> | When the paused VM is resumed, the time is off |
| 21:27 | <srg___> | Maybe a cronjob of ntpdate would be better? |
| 21:28 | <somiaj> | na |
| 21:28 | <somiaj> | the systemd default service should keep the time working |
| 21:28 | <somiaj> | but if you prefer another daemon, use one of the ones you mentioned, ntpdate is a poor choice (it can jump your time to quickly) |
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| 21:30 | <srg___> | Thanks! |
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| 22:07 | <Thespen> | is it possible to use the cp command to overwrite the hdd that your debian install is on? |
| 22:08 | <somiaj> | yes |
| 22:08 | <somiaj> | but maybe ask your actual question, what are you trying to do? Or avoid doing? |
| 22:09 | <Thespen> | I was tryingt o copy the debian 9.4 iso from my hdd to my thumbdrive using the terminal |
| 22:09 | <Thespen> | I used cp debian.iso /dev/sdb |
| 22:09 | <Thespen> | per the wiki instructions |
| 22:10 | <somiaj> | the wiki should have told you to make sure you pick your usb device correctly |
| 22:10 | <Thespen> | Yeah, I was not paying attention admittedly. Which is sad because I have done this a million times and never had an issue. |
| 22:11 | <Thespen> | So would it also mess up the grub install where I wouldn't be able to boot into Windows as well? |
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| 22:11 | <somiaj> | yup |
| 22:11 | <somiaj> | it will overwrite the first X part of the drive with the iso |
| 22:11 | <Thespen> | I tried setting the hdd order in the bios to the windows hdd (on a deperate drive) and it just came up with a black screen and blinking cursor. |
| 22:11 | <Thespen> | Ah |
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| 22:12 | <Thespen> | So the Windows install should be fine as long as I reinstall debian? |
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| 22:12 | <somiaj> | was your windows install on another drive? |
| 22:12 | <Thespen> | yes |
| 22:12 | <Thespen> | I have two drives Debian on one and Windows is on the other hdd |
| 22:12 | <somiaj> | then yea, you just need to reinstall grub/debian and you can recover. |
| 22:13 | <Thespen> | Sweet, good thing there wasn't much on the Deb side |
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| 22:18 | <Thespen> | So what are the benefits of having seperate /var and /tmp partitions? |
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| 22:26 | -!- | galex-713_ is "Alexandre Garreau" on #debian-kde #debian |
| 22:29 | <dvs> | Thespen, a runaway program doesn't write to the entire disk? It's good to have a separate /var partitions for servers. |
| 22:30 | <themill> | /tmp on tmpfs is nice if you have processes that write lots of small temp files |
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| 23:17 | <nibaba> | ping |
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| 23:22 | <LIJINGLIN> | lalalala |
| 23:23 | <huangjundedie> | sb |
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| 23:56 | -!- | annadane is "realname" on #debian-live #siduction #reproducible-builds #privacytech #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-devel-changes #debian-apt #debian |
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| --- | Log | closed Thu Jun 07 00:00:04 2018 |
