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01:35<twb>Is there a way to see how often *sync() syscalls are landing, when I don't know any specific daemon to strace?
01:36<twb>I just want to be like "aha, when the system grinds to a halt, it's always just after the fsync()/min rate jumps from 2 to 1000"
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01:36<annadane>i would answer your question but i don't understand chinese
01:38<rjsalts>could some of the new bpf filters achieve that?
01:39<jm_>twb: as rjsalts said, https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/tools/syncsnoop.py
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01:43<twb>It's actually an oldstable host currently
01:45<rjsalts>how're you figuring the number of *sync() calls now? strace everything?
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01:46<rjsalts>when it has already fallen in a heap?
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01:47<rjsalts>could you backport 4.1+ kernel and install on the host?
01:49<twb>O
01:49<twb>I'm running a 4.9 bpo kernel, I think
01:50<twb>Right now I'm purely SPECULATING, based on past experience
01:50<rjsalts>I think the bpf tools might work then, I've not really used them though
01:50<twb>One time I had collectd running, and then "apt-install foo" would break the system
01:50<twb>Because dpkg would call fsync and collectd was going balls-out writing RRD blocks
01:50<twb>The fsync barriers prevented the kernel from coalescing the randomized writes
01:51<twb>The solution was to tell collectd to buffer in RAM and only flush to disk ever 30min
01:51<rjsalts>oh, yeah, I can see how that would be a disaster
01:51<twb>Which meant that collectd graphs would lag up to 30min behind real time, but that was no big deal because nobody looks at them anyway
01:52<twb>(And you can -USR1 to force flush)
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04:22<themanhimself>how come alsa or alsa-base is not in debian buster?
04:23<themanhimself>i only found alsaplayer variants, alsa-oss and alsa-tools
04:23<themanhimself>and something else. but the base package is nowhere to be found
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04:23<retron>hello
04:24<twb>themanhimself: one of the packages is no longer needed
04:24<twb>themanhimself: it's probably that one you're thinking of
04:24<twb>IIRC alsa-utils is the one you want for alsamixer and "I have no GUI but I still want sound"
04:25<themanhimself>that's pretty much it. but why was it removed?
04:25<themanhimself>so many packages seem to be missing in buster. is that purposeful?
04:27<retron>debsecan says there are fixes for cves available, but apt-get reports the system is up to date
04:27<retron>https://paste.debian.net/1028442/
04:29<twb>themanhimself: ask #debian-next
04:30<retron>themanhimself: maybe running stretch with some backports is an option for you?
04:30<twb>!policy
04:30<dpkg>policy is the document that defines how Debian packages should (and must!) interact with each other and with the user to make sure we have a high-quality, stable distribution. You can find it at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ or in the debian-policy package. Those who fail to understand Debian Policy are doomed to reimplement it, poorly. See also <best practices> <nmg> <mentors>.
04:30<twb>Wrong link
04:30<twb>retron: please pastebin "apt-cache policy" output
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04:34<retron>twb: https://paste.debian.net/1028445/
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04:36<jm_>twb: it's !bat :)
04:37<retron>!bat
04:37<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
04:37<twb>Thanks
04:37<twb>retron: at a glance that looks sane to me
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04:41<retron>maybe they are pending, there are actually just two cves in the list
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04:46<twb>There are tricks to make debsecan report useful info, but AFAIK you found the main one (--suite=stretch)
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04:54<jm_>retron: which systemd package version do you have installed?
04:54<retron>232-25+deb9u2
04:55<jm_>that's the version fixed for the reported CVE https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-15908 :)
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04:55<jm_>i.e. the one reported by debsecan
04:55<retron>ok ... so why does debsecan report it?
04:55<retron>thanks
04:56<pipedream>I have a stretch computer lab with ldap users, nfs, 3 IT admins have sudo. When I open some GUI app that requires sudo, e.g. Users or Printers, and click Unlock, it does not prompt a list of sudo users (as we used to have with Ubuntu 14.04), instead it chooses one of the IT admins and asks for that password only. I obviosuly don't know the other two IT admins passwords, so can't finish my task then.
04:57<jm_>no idea, it's a python script, I would add debugging to it
05:01<twb>are you using sudo-ldap?
05:03<retron>sorry, it is actually 232-25+deb9u3, so seems to have been updated again after ...u2
05:04<retron>well i'll have to take a look at the script then or use something else to find vulnerabilities maybe
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05:42<jm_>retron: maybe that's why it reports it then?
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05:58<Synthea>Often, when I backspace reaching the end of the line (even in hexchat) on my laptop I hear the classical beep of speakers, can I replace this annoying sound with something else?
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06:11<retron>jm_: could be, but i assume when ...u2 fixed it it is still fixed it ...u3
06:11<retron>*in
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06:13<jm_>retron: yeah, normally that is the case
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08:58<aXeton>Hello, does anybody know any info about KPTI patch for x86 only Debian systems? I have now installed Debian Stretch with kernel 4.9.0-6-686 (4.9.88-1+deb9u1) and when I run grep . * at /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities it gives me meltdown: vulnerable, spectre_v1: mitigation: __user_pointer_sanitization and spectre_v2: mitigation: full generic retpoline. thank you for answers
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09:00<aXeton>and I forgot to mention one thing, system is up to date
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09:05<towo^work>there is no kpti patch for 32bit
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09:27<aXeton>towo^work: is a 32bit KPTI patch planned or it actually means that every 32bit system remains unpatched to meltdown forever, do you know?
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09:29<towo^work>i don't know
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09:35<aXeton>towo^work: thank you for answer. I am trying to search another info but for now - nothing...
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09:52<PaulePanter>Hi. Do you know of free software, that does a slideshow, but I am able to set times, when to move to the next slide or load the next presentation.
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09:52<PaulePanter>Like in a lobby of a hotel with a big display, where you want to show the breakfast menu from 5 to 10 and then load the lunch menu for example.
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09:53<ach>!impress
09:54<ach>openoffice has such option
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09:55<ach>!openoffice impress
09:55<ach>!pptx
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09:58<PaulePanter>ach: I do not see it in LibreOffice Impress. I can only set one specific intervall, when slides should be changed, but not configure absolute times.
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10:01<ach>!kpresenter
10:02<ach>i don't know that the three presentation softwares i found
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10:03<ach>you could also use gif and avi seems simliar for your wish
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10:04<PaulePanter>ach: Thankk you for your suggestions. I’ll take a look.
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11:20<dpanter>13 sticker pack, only 1 US$ and free shipping worldwide. dude! limited time offer so wtf go get one now! unixstickers.com
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11:25<dpanter>debian sticker included of c
11:25<somiaj>dpanter: this is not the place to advertise
11:26<dpanter>advertise nothing, i have nothing to do with them.
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11:28<somiaj>it is still not debian support
11:29<dpanter>so would you consider this offtopic then?
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11:29<abhishivpal>hey buddy
11:29<abhishivpal>need help
11:29<somiaj>!ask
11:29<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:30<abhishivpal>how to install chaosvpn
11:30<somiaj>dpanter: yes, but I prefer to direct people to appropiate places, maybe #debian-offtopic would like to know of such stickers.
11:30<abhishivpal>no
11:30<dpanter>somiaj: agreed, cheers
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11:31<abhishivpal>please help me how can install freenet and chaosvpn in in parrot os
11:32<somiaj>abhishivpal: chaosvpn is not a part of the debian repos. It appears this is more a vpn network vs software. I found some instructions on github, https://github.com/ryd/chaosvpn/blob/master/INSTALL
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11:32<somiaj>abhishivpal: but it appears that this is third party, so just make sure you understand what the commands you run do, and you trust the author of the random link I found.
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11:33<abhishivpal>but ihave already cmd use but have problem with installing
11:33<abhishivpal>can you send me prefer cmd
11:34<somiaj>read the install instructions by the software, if that doesn't work, maybe open a github issue
11:34<abhishivpal>i am try many times doesn't work
11:34<somiaj>You need a combination of building third party software and access to a third party vpn network. But those install instructions seem okay to me (though I just quickly glanced over them)
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11:35<abhishivpal>what's name of third party of software
11:36<somiaj>the README on github sends you to a webpage and poitns at github issues, maybe the users of said software can help.
11:36<somiaj>https://github.com/ryd/chaosvpn
11:36<somiaj>that is not something packaged by debian, hence it is third party.
11:36<abhishivpal>okay i will try it
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11:37<abhishivpal>thanks for your advise
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11:47<Synthea^>Why netcat doesn't have the -x option?
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11:50<mnuhmnuh>what's -x do? nc -help
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11:52<somiaj>might not do much good if it doesn't have it.
11:52<somiaj>Synthea^: which netcat are you using?
11:53<Synthea^>somiaj, simply nc
11:53<somiaj>Synthea^: not what I meant. netcat-openbsd or netcat-traditional?
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11:53<Synthea^>somiaj, traditional
11:53<somiaj>the -x option is present in my netcat, but I'm using netcat-openbsd
11:54<somiaj>that is the reason
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12:49<rf>hi
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12:50<rf>has anyone considered the implications of having every planet including ours on the same side of the sun?
12:51<rf>the moon reflects light.... and so do other planets.... and if they are all reflecting together, it could get very bright out, maybe 90,000-100,000
12:51<rf>lumens
12:52<rf>is no one talking ? because im not even going to bother, id rather at how many people will need directions!
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12:53<rf>hi senk are you reading?
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12:55<JakeDaLizard>Hello?
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13:12<mile>Good evening (which is local time) ;-)
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13:13<mile>Anyone here who can help and explain how to install fotowall under stretch?
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13:16<bremner>mile: it doesn't seem to be in debian
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13:16<bremner>usually in that case you should look to the fotowall website (assuming there is one)
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13:17<deadrz>hello
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13:18<mile>bremner: Here is one https://www.enricoros.com/opensource/fotowall/download/binaries/
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13:30<mile>bremner: Too simple! Download and run.
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13:41<mile>Thanks for your help!
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14:54<BouleDeGomme>I Have a noob question, sorry about that. But, is it possible to make a RAID 1 with one logical volum and one physical volume ?
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14:56<somiaj>!cross post
14:56<dpkg>Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
14:56<somiaj>BouleDeGomme: ^^
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14:57<BouleDeGomme>somiaj : Sorry i didn't know
14:58<somiaj>which is why I informed you.
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16:57<wget>Hello everyone, when I install my debian using debootstrap and I install grub, the file /etc/default/grub doesn't exist at all. Do you know if this is a completelly normal behavior on debian?
16:57<wget>I'm an Arch Linux user myself and I'm used to see this file and have it already populated by a bunch of default values.
16:58<wget>Do I need to configure it by myself?
16:58<wget>My configuration is a bit special in a sense that I'm on a RAID1, which is dmencrypted and contains a LVM volume with / /home and swap partitions.
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16:59<wget>The first partition of the raid 1 is a 1Mio BIOS partition (the disk are on GPT, but since I'm on a BIOS system I need that additional 1Mio partition)
16:59<ais-admin>you will find it in grub.d - not grub
17:00<ais-admin>sorry - /etc/grub.d is full path
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17:01<ais-admin>I'm on stretch and I do have a /etc/default/grub file though. Not sure why you dont
17:01<wget>ais-admin: the only things I have there: https://gist.github.com/wget/c15e815d742e13eadfed261f151b007d
17:01<wget>no 'default' file :-/
17:01<somiaj>wget: by install grub, which grub package did you install?
17:01<wget>somiaj: simply the package called 'grub"
17:02<somiaj>there is no packaged called grub
17:02<wget>I'm on debian 9 though.
17:02<somiaj>,v grub
17:02<judd>No package named 'grub' was found in amd64.
17:02<wget>Hum. Damn. Maybe in jessis backports then?
17:02<somiaj>there is no package in debian amd64 called grub
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17:03<wget>somiaj: this is my apt sources.list
17:03<wget>https://gist.github.com/wget/170420d13db47137c5a5c97ae6191f9c
17:03<duncan>Does apt use --verbose for gpgv?
17:03<somiaj>it also appears that there is no package called grub in debian
17:03<somiaj>wget: what was the actual grub package you installed.
17:03<somiaj>wget: dpkg -l | grep grub will list grub packages
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17:04<wget>somiaj: https://gist.github.com/wget/0f6bacf818cb90f5137e0d2b964f78d5
17:04<wget>what's weird is that I 'm used to use the following command when I need to install grub:
17:04<wget>grub-install --target=i386-pc --debug /dev/sda
17:04<wget>but the commands complains there is no arg called --targed=i368-pc
17:04<somiaj>why using grub legacy?
17:05<somiaj>for legacy boot, you want grub-pc, for efi boot you want grub-efi
17:05<wget>somiaj: don't know this is what is installed when I install the package 'grub'. But since there is no package called grub, thi s astonishing
17:05<somiaj>there is no package grub, so no clue what happened, grub-legacy is the old grub 1.0 legacy package, and most likely isn't what you want.
17:06<somiaj>if you have grub-pc installed, then just grub-install /dev/sda should be enough.
17:06<wget>I have a file with notes I tok from my previous server installation, so things might have changed since. The step I'm installing grub corresponds to this one.
17:06<wget>apt install openssh-server dropbear busybox grub
17:06<somiaj>that should have errroed out since there is no package called grub
17:07<ais-admin>if you want to boot from either raid disk - "grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb"
17:07<wget>ais-admin: sure, this is what I do. Actually I run the command in two steps :)
17:08<wget>somiaj: found the culprit:
17:08<wget>apt[...] blablabla
17:08<wget>[...]
17:08<wget>Note, selecting 'grub-legacy' instead of 'grub'
17:08<somiaj>yea you seem to have the old grub installed for some reason, and unsure why installing grub did that.
17:08<somiaj>ahh guess apt tried to guess what you want.
17:08<wget>so yes, this is grub-pc I need instead
17:09<somiaj>I can't figure out what grub package actually creates /etc/default/grub as I don't see it listed as a conffile for any package I have installed
17:09<somiaj>it might be something that is created by the isntaller and only used if it exists (I know with systemd, /etc/default/foo is partly an old sysv hack)
17:10<ais-admin>I think you want grub2?
17:10<somiaj>ais-admin: grub-pc is grub2
17:10<somiaj>grub-legacy is grub1
17:10<ais-admin>oic
17:10<wget>mn. the install failed.
17:10<somiaj>anyways, I'm unsure the best way to track down what creates /etc/default/grub, but I'm not seeing it as a conf file
17:11<wget>this is excellent. first time I see such an issue :D
17:11<wget>https://gist.github.com/wget/ca1bfb09b85f33dd3bc6758c3de31fdf
17:11<wget>"You have a memory leak (not released memory pool):" is particularly interesting :D
17:12<somiaj>ahh there it is creating the /etc/default/grub file, that is good
17:13<somiaj>I think line 23 is the first sign of the error. Some how your /dev isn't fully populated and the install scripts are failing to find devices (and thus reporting missing info)
17:13<somiaj>is this run inside the chroot for your install?
17:15<wget>somiaj: yes it's run in a chroot
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17:16<wget>somiaj: whatr I had in my notes, and this is how I chroot from my archlinux iso to my debian debootstraped install:
17:16<wget>https://gist.github.com/wget/4c5dc931bf658ec409282b0bb8cb2c4f
17:16<wget>am I missing something maybe?
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17:22<ais-admin>you said your raid was encrypted?
17:25<wget>ais-admin: yes it is.
17:27<ais-admin>you are decrypting and mounting the md device to /mnt/install/ and chrooting to /mnt/install/?
17:28<wget>The root logical volume is mounted on /mnt/install
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17:28<wget> /sda and sdb are 2 simple SATA disks with 2 partitions on each: sda1, sda2, sdb1, sdb2. The partition 1 is for the BIOS grub partition on GTP. The RAID 1 is on sda2 and sdb2. On the raid1, one volume group with 3 prtition: root, /home/ and swap.
17:28<wget>This is basically my setup ^
17:29<wget>This is for a full disk encryption on a remote server. The server will be decrypted remotelly via dropbear.
17:31<ais-admin>beyond me. can you access /dev?
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17:32<wget>Yes I can. The whole /dev is strictly identical between the unchrooted and the chrooted bootsraped debian
17:32<wget>because before chrooting I mount /dev with mount -o bind /dev /mnt/install/dev
17:34<ais-admin>yet apt cant access /dev - weird
17:34<ais-admin>sorry you got me. I never encrypt my raids...
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17:53<ais-admin>wget - shouldnt your mount command be the other way round? mount -o bind /mnt/install/dev /dev
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17:54<somiaj>isn't the goal to put the outside /dev into the chroot?
17:54<ais-admin>yeah
17:54<somiaj>so wouldn't your command do the opospite, put the chroot /dev in the outside filesystem?
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17:55<wget>good question, actually I always proceeded like this to charoot
17:56<somiaj>its been a while since I've actually need a chroot to access /dev that I don't mount --bind it.
17:56<somiaj>!fixmbr
17:56<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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17:56<somiaj>but the standard factoid says wget's order is correct
17:56<wget>if I do nothing, the folder on the chroot is basically empty (barely nothing in there)
17:56<somiaj>yea, with udev, /dev is dynmatically created
17:58<wget>Hum. Ok. Reinstalling my system in a VM (I(m in a vm now, in order to be able to reset the config), and when unpacking the kernel of the deboostraped debian, one of the disk raid has again crashed. Device remounted in read only by dmraid. I assume virtualbox has a bug somewhre. This happens quite often.
17:58<somiaj>I'm unsure what your issue is, but I don't use raids or encryption, so no experience
17:59<wget>Ok. I will go to sleep. Maybe I'll get some illumination tomorrow morning :)
17:59<wget>Thanks guys for the help, this alllowed me to make some good progress :)
17:59<wget>o/
18:00<ais-admin>good luck
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18:35<flight>mans
18:35<flight> mans
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18:40<flight>who
18:40<flight>can help my
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18:41<flight>i'm a blind and don't know how active speakup in instalation of debiam
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18:42<flight>who can help my
18:43<somiaj>https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility -- I'd start there.
18:43<flight>thx
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18:44<somiaj>hmm, the speechsynthesis blend task link is dead due to changes in debian infastructure. Unsure where the best place to get info about that task is
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18:45<somiaj>but espeakup and speech-dispatcher might be packages that would be useful.
18:46<dondelelcaro>flight: if you're installing, https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s0jk2.html has some more instructions, too
18:46<ais-admin>flight - if you are trying to install Debian this may help - To enable accessibility and the Orca screen reader on the graphical image, press and hold down the ALT and Command keys, then press S. To enable accessibility if you downloaded the network install image, press S at the boot screen of the image and press Enter. After the image boots, you should hear speech. Follow the prompts from there.
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18:48<flight>lets try
18:49<flight>thx is working lets try
18:50<flight>80%
18:51<flight>dectecting network rarduare
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19:01<ais-admin>good news flight - good luck and enjoy Debian!
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19:20<jc>flight, one of the ops in #freenode on irc.freenode.net is blind and they seem to handle irc useage quite well. they might have some pointers for you. i think it's deedra but i'm not positive.
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19:23<flight>congra
19:23<flight>good bie
19:23<flight>note book
19:23<flight>lol
19:25<flight>thx for good
19:25<flight>good
19:25<flight>wuou
19:25<ais-admin>jc: you may want to post that info again.
19:27<jc>flight, this is a re-post in case you missed my previous post. one of the ops in #freenode on irc.freenode.net is blind and they seem to handle irc useage quite well. they might have some pointers for you. i think it's deedra but i'm not positive.
19:28<flight>i have a blind friend
19:28<flight>but
19:28<flight>don't is hery in the moment
19:29<flight>and my native language don't is available in the first list
19:29<flight>of instalation
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19:30<flight>piiiiiiiii
19:30<flight>lol
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19:33<flight>my language don't is available in first part of list how to look more
19:35<ais-admin>I'm sorry but I dont know. Perhaps the PgUp and PgDown keys scroll through lists?
19:35<flight>sec
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19:37<flight>thx
19:37<flight>worked
19:39<ais-admin>lucky guess
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19:40<flight>i like my language auauauuauauuuuaa
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19:56<flight>trying
19:56<flight>but
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20:03<ais-admin>are you looking for Spanish or Portuguese?
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20:09<ais-admin>There is #debian-es for Spanish - Does anyone know if there is a #debian-pt for Portuguese?
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20:12<somiaj>!br
20:12<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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20:16<ais-admin>oh perfect - thanks somiaj
20:17<ais-admin>I was looking under the ISO 639-1 Language code - not the country code
20:19<somiaj>yea, it kinda varies, I think in this case it is due to the population on oftc vs the language.
20:20<ais-admin>good to know there is one - I have met a lot of people from Brazil on irc - seems popular there
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20:23<flight>good bie
20:23<flight>guys
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20:23<flight>thx for all help
20:23<somiaj>My experience as well, hence a br channel over a portugues one
20:24<flight>i'm fron brasil
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21:33<flight>jhoi
21:33<flight>help
21:33<flight>how to goback for privius option on instalation of debian
21:34<flight>and sorry for bad english
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21:47<flight>guys
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21:57<ais-admin>hi again flight - there is usually a button at the bottom left of the screen labeled back
21:59<pcods>#debian-offtopic
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22:01<ais-admin>flight: In the character-based environment the use of a mouse is not supported. Here are the keys you can use to navigate within the various dialogs. The Tab or right arrow keys move “forward”, and the Shift+Tab or left arrow keys move “backward” between displayed buttons and selections.
22:02<flight>but
22:02<flight>open a terminal
22:02<ais-admin>so basically keep cycling through options with tab until you hear 'back' then press enter
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22:03<ais-admin>To switch to another console, you will also need to use the Ctrl key, just as with the X Window System. For example, to switch to VT2 (the first debug shell) you would use: Ctrl+Left Alt+F2. The graphical installer itself runs on VT5, so you can use Left Alt+F5 to switch back.
22:04<flight>thxc
22:04<flight>thx
22:04<flight>don't is eaze don't have vision
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22:05<ais-admin>I'm sure its difficult. I dont think I could perform an install by sound only
22:07<flight>sec
22:07<flight>i started boot with pendrive
22:08<flight>i listen a bip
22:08<flight>if i press s and enter start speaking but i have a terminal
22:08<flight>but
22:09<flight>how to run in grafic
22:10<ais-admin>the text and graphic installers do exactly the same thing. Does the text installer not give you voice prompts?
22:10<flight>aaaa
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22:11<flight>lol
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22:11<flight>you killed speakup
22:11<flight>lololoolooooooooool
22:12<flight>conecting in network
22:12<ais-admin>The office is closing now - I will check in on you later from home if I can. Good luck.
22:13<flight>ok
22:13<flight>good bie
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22:17<pcods>I need to setup hyper-v within a server16 vm in kvm on debian host. My cpu is flagged with vmx but I'm assuming that I need to do some deeper kvm configuration? Any suggestions?
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22:24<pcods>I'm reading about nested guests in the kvm documentation which seems like what I need to do, minus the hyper-v part
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23:48<gr3nax>hi friends
23:49<scientes>when is buster going to be frozen?
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