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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-06-11

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03:25<edilo>Hello, first time that happens to me: apt-get says that remmina is being kept back, so I do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" but nothing gets updated anyway. I'm on Stretch, so remmina is installed with stretch-backports
03:25<edilo>What should I do?
03:25<annadane>someone just asked in #debian about this exact thing
03:25<annadane>on freenode
03:25<annadane>bug...?
03:25<annadane>anyway,
03:26<jm_>try apt-get install remmina and see what would happen, don't blindly say Y to continue
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03:29<edilo>@jm_ Ok, it says that some dependecies are not ok
03:29<edilo>remmina depends on libssh-4
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03:30<annadane>,v libssh-4
03:30<judd>Package: libssh-4 on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.5.4-1+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 0.5.4-1+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 0.5.4-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.6.3-4+deb8u2; jessie-security: 0.6.3-4+deb8u2; stretch: 0.7.3-2; stretch-backports: 0.8.0~20170825.94fa1e38-1~bpo9+1; buster: 0.8.0~20170825.94fa1e38-1; sid: 0.8.0~20170825.94fa1e38-2
03:30<jm_>are you sure remina is available in backports?
03:31<jm_>ahh spelling
03:31<annadane>edilo, try installing it, go down the dependency chain to see what's broken
03:31<jm_>yeah it needs that one from bpo too
03:31<annadane>apt -t stretch-backports install libssh-4
03:31<jm_>dep: libssh-4 (>= 0.8.0~20170825.94fa1e38)
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03:33<edilo>@annadane ok that command fixed it. I understand now, It need the lib from backports right?
03:33<edilo>that's why it could't proceed
03:33<annadane>yes, i think dist-upgrade won't pull from backports automatically
03:34<annadane>which is... odd, but probably not a bug
03:34<edilo>Right, thank you guys!
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03:48<babilen>annadane: It normally does if the package has been installed from backports (backports sets NotAutomatic: yes and ButAutomaticUpgrades: yes which sets it apart from experimental)
03:48<annadane>ah, ok. was a silly assumption for me to make. i wonder how OP got into that situation, then
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03:50<babilen>Impossible to tell now
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03:52<Ze`>Hi, is system user like tomcat8 will have always the same uid on several servers ?
03:55<jm_>Ze`: looking at the postinst script suggests the answer is no
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04:04<Ze`>jm_: thanks, is there any static uid in debian ? for www-data seems to be static as uid 33 ?
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04:06<babilen>Ze`: /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-passwd.preinst
04:07<babilen>(and /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz)
04:07<jm_>Ze`: that comes from base-passwd like babilen said
04:07<babilen>Ze`: Are you after anything specific? Why do you care about UIDs?
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04:11<Ze`>jm_: thx !!
04:12<jm_>no problem
04:12<Ze`>babilen: because i have several servers with tomcat8 who share directory via glusterFS for Hight Availibility but having two different uid and never happen before :)
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04:30<larjona>hello, something happened with the last updates to stretch, that now my screen shows 1024x768 and it seems I cannot set a higher resolution. I have an intel card, here is my lspci -vvvs and lsmod: http://paste.debian.net/1028739/
04:30<larjona>last updates in stretch*
04:30<larjona>I use KDE Plasma desktop. How can I diagnose/solve this?
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04:35<larjona>and here is my Xorg.0.log: http://paste.debian.net/1028740/
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04:38<lordievader>larjona: Could you also paste your `/proc/cmdline`?
04:39<larjona>BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-6-amd64 root=UUID=edbdd305-c2b4-4f9e-ab9e-3a314625f063 ro quiet
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04:39<larjona>I will try adding acpi=force to the grub line
04:39<larjona>will come back in a minute
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04:40<jm_>would be interesting to compare with old X logfile
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04:42<lordievader>Hmm, no `nomodeset`. Usually that is the culprit.
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04:43<larjona>acpi=force didn't make a difference
04:43<larjona>I will compare the old Xorg logs, thanks
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04:43<jm_>if I compare it to mine (on non-updated stretch), I see EDID info before modelines
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05:20<guruprasad>On my up-to-date email server running exim4 and spamassassin, spamd dies often due to some reason. The systemd unit has 'Restart=always' but systemd doesn't restart it when it dies at all. What could be the issue?
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05:38<larjona>it seems that my problem is that the new Debian stretch linux kernel does not detect well my monitor. In the old Xorg log file I have EDID information : (II) modeset(0): Manufacturer: SAM Model: 22a Serial#: REDACTED (and some more lines) and many different screen resolutions available. In the new Xorg log file there is no monitor-related info after (II) modeset(0): EDID for output VGA-1 and the available resolutions are only the
05:38<larjona>low ones
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05:41<larjona>ah, now it works. I can set a higher resolution. Not sure if this is because of the acpi=force switch
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08:21<microbe>Hello guys. Can someone explain what the "-" character means in that command: curl -sL http://URL | bash -
08:21<microbe>(the last one, after bash command)
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08:22<vale>hellow
08:22<microbe>Hi vale
08:23<vale>im here to solve 1 problem..
08:23<vale>is there any way to convert out payload into picture formate
08:23<microbe>MSF payloads ?
08:23<vale>yes
08:24<vale>someone told me this is possible with hex editior and exiftool..
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08:24<vale>but i cant find any tutorial or video abt it..
08:25<microbe>Idk but there's also a magic character that can make "image.jpg.exe" look like "image.exe.jpg" on a windows machine
08:26<vale>yea i know abt UTF202 cracters..
08:26<microbe>Okay :p
08:26<vale>but im searching the perfect way..
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08:27<vale>sumil shah security expert able to execute his shellcode with open image..
08:27<vale>i convert my shellcode into image but its not executing my shellcode..
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08:28<microbe>I cant help sorry
08:28<vale>ok thanks.. for reply..
08:28<microbe>Np, have fun ;)
08:29<vale>same..
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08:35<petn-randall>microbe: Are you running Kali or Parrot?
08:35<microbe>No, i'm runnng debian
08:36<microbe>Once (long time ago) i tried Backtrack, but i'm a noob
08:36<microbe>I tested some howtos just for fun
08:36<petn-randall>microbe: 'bash -' means "read from STDIN, and execute it as if it was a shell script".
08:37<microbe>Okay, thank you :)
08:37<petn-randall>microbe: Coincidentally, the above command is a surefire way to break your system and loose support in this channel. :)
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08:38<microbe>Yeah, i figure that lol
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08:38<petn-randall>microbe: Feeding things from the internet straight into your shell, without being able to see what it actually is, is a big no-no.
08:38<microbe>I had to do it to install nodeJS
08:39<microbe>I should have compiled it but...
08:40<grove>You never have to do that, you can always save things and look at them before possibly feeding them to the shell
08:41<microbe>Yes i know that i have no excuses lol
08:42<microbe>4 years without getting my hands on a computer, and today i'm gonna copy-paste the entire internet lol
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10:40<markus-k>is overriding parts of a systemd unit by creating a <service>.d/override.conf file in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/ not supported on jessie?
10:40<markus-k>I'm just getting "Cannot add dependency telegraf.service.d to multi-user.target, ignoring: Invalid argument"
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10:45<markus-k>nvm, it has to got to system/...
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10:51<phylophyl>any headphone with mic brand (no usb, jack) that is debian friendly? thanks
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11:09<microbe>phylophyl, using JACK connection ?
11:09<fiete>hehe, according to the 'no usb' i think with jack the physical 3,5mm jack connector is meant and not the jack audio server
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11:10<petn-randall>phylophyl: Since the headset would be 100% analog, the only support Debian needs to provide is for your audio card.
11:10<phylophyl>microbe, i have not installed jack yet, using pavucontrol
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11:11<fiete>so yeah as long as alsa is working for your soundcard every headset should work
11:11<microbe>i approve \o/
11:12<phylophyl>i have a cheap headset, the mic is not recognized and it seems that it is a general problem with laptops
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11:13<petn-randall>phylophyl: What do you mean with 'not recognized'? If it's an analog headset, there's nothing to recognize. Either it's plugged in and conducts electricity, or it's not.
11:13<fiete>so are you shure that you connector is for the combined mic and headphones plug or perhaps it is just headphones only?
11:14<microbe>Or maybe he have to set the correct recording input in his OS parameters
11:15<microbe>Like I have always to change between my soundcard and my HDMI output when i connect my laptop to my TV
11:15<phylophyl>checking the specifics of the laptop
11:15<fiete>so first of all check the 'Configuration' tab of pavucontrol
11:15<phylophyl>configuration is checked
11:16<fiete>there you should choose analog stereo duplex to enable microphone input
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11:16<fiete>then 'Input devices' should show some microphone input
11:17<phylophyl>analog stereo duplex is default for built in audio
11:17<fiete>ok are there perhaps multiple values for Port under 'Input devices'?
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11:18<fiete>and maybe posting the exact model number and manufacturer of your notebook here might help
11:19<petn-randall>phylophyl: Is the problem that the headset doesn't pic up anything on the mic?
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11:20<phylophyl>asus f551c
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11:24<fiete>hmm according to the pictures at amazon it seems that the physical connector jack is for combined headset connectors. so it should™ work
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11:25<fiete>phylophyl: what do you see at the 'Input devices' tab in pavucontrol?
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11:34<phylophyl>fiete, i see builtin audio analog stereo / port microphone (unplugged)
11:35<fiete>ok and there is no other option in the dropdown?
11:35<phylophyl>no
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11:36<phylophyl>i tried running hdajaskretask command from alsa-tools-gui
11:36<phylophyl>not working
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11:37<phylophyl>i will try with a decent headphones, i suspect i have beed sold a fake mic
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11:37<fiete>you can easily test with your smartphone wether the mic works there
11:38<phylophyl>ok
11:45<dfceaef[m]>what happened with dep.debian.net ?
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11:48<phylophyl>fiete the mic is working on android
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11:52<fiete>then I am out of ideas for now. perhaps your soundcard is not entirely discvered by the kernel or so. but its hard to tell that from remote
11:54<phylophyl>fiete, thank you for your time, it was to let you know
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12:02<dfceaef[m]>so where can i find dep3...
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13:27<Synthea>Why after setting the umask from ~/.bash_rc and ~/.profile it isn't applied?
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13:35<Blacker47>Synthea, maybe you need to re-login. and it should be .bashrc and not .bash_rc.
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13:43<Synthea>Blacker47, it was .bashrc I mistyped
13:43<Synthea>I've remade the login tons of times
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13:47<Blacker47>so what is in the file and what do you get running "umask"?
13:47<retrospectacus>works for me
13:48<Synthea>Blacker can acls invalidate this?
13:49<Synthea>Blacker47
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13:54<retrospectacus>Synthea: check whether it worked by the output of "umask". Acl could not affect this.
13:55<Synthea>retrospectacus umask works but not on my home
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13:55<retrospectacus>can you show us what you are seeing: http://paste.debian.net
13:56<Synthea>retrospectacus, what I see using what command?
13:56<retrospectacus>"cat .bashrc", "touch foo", "umask", "umask 002" etc. etc. whatever you think will demonstrate the problem.
13:57<annadane>dfceaef[m], i don't really understand the question though i'm sure others do; you can possibly get what you're looking for somewhere else for now
13:57<annadane>just wanted to address it before it scrolls off screen
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14:02<annadane>!tell dfceaef[m] about snapshots
14:03<Synthea>retrospectacus, https://paste.debian.net/hidden/dc6f0905/
14:08<retrospectacus>seems to be the acl then.
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15:53<ceibal>motpsisvtnirbryt irdort
15:53<ceibal>tyt u7i8oi7u6hrgefe fo9,8mujynhrgfr vgthjuklo→ ↓jyhgrf
15:54<jc>stop being an irdort
15:54<ceibal>vrt r
15:54<ceibal>mlfcdf mrtr
15:54<ceibal> try
15:54<ceibal>ry6u
15:54<ceibal>mi8
15:54<somiaj>ceibal: do you have a debian support question?
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16:30<grummund>Hi, can anyone tell me if RAID1 on LUKS encrypted is something that Stretch debian installer can handle? (i know it will do LUKS on RAID1)
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16:30<petn-randall>grummund: yes
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16:31<grummund>petn-randall: cool. :) because this was not possible in Jessie.
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17:30<grummund>Is cups-daemon package needed to print from lp to remote server? (package cups-client has the lp command afaict does not work standalone)
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17:53<somiaj>yes, cupsd is what lpr calls to then send the info to the printer
17:53<somiaj>or lp
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17:54<grummund>so printing goes via two cupsd processes? one local, and one on the remote server.
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17:54<somiaj>if the remote print server you are calling is using cups
17:54<somiaj>cupsd can also send to printers and other things directly
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17:58<grummund>there is already a server with cups running and printer attached, and the intention is to have working 'lp' command on another server.
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18:19<somiaj>grummund: There might be a way to just forward the info to the other server, but in default setups cupsd would just forward that.
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18:20<somiaj>it could also be interally, lp needs to talk directly to the machine via a non tcp socket, and thus requring cupsd on the client to act as the middle man. I dno't know the details to well, but that is how the basic set ups seem to me
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18:21<somiaj>I guess lp allows hostname, so maybe you can just disable the daemon.
18:22<grummund>well it seems actually cup-cli package alone is all that is needed
18:23<grummund>only files /etc/cups/client.conf and /etc/cups/lpoptions must be hand crafted.
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