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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-06-24

---Logopened Sun Jun 24 00:00:07 2018
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00:04-!-dboehmer_ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:05-!-galex-713 is "Alexandre Garreau" on #debian-kde #debian
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02:48<GamerSwa>hey
02:48-!-hele_ [~hele@88-115-23-86.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:48<GamerSwa>what is this?
02:48<ach>!ask
02:48<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
02:49<GamerSwa>what is this application used for?
02:49<GamerSwa>hey there anyone pls answer
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02:52<Game>whe j
02:52<Game>wtf
02:52<Game>man
02:52<Game>help
02:53<Game>someone
02:53<Game>what is this?
02:53<Game>hello
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02:54<ach>!gnu
02:54<dpkg>[gnu] a recursive acronym which stands for GNU's Not UNIX. The GNU project is dedicated to the creation of a 100% Free Software Operating System. http://www.gnu.org/ #gnu on irc.freenode.net.
02:58<Synthea>How can I assign all addresses from a network interface to my machine?
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03:00<ach>!ip
03:00<dpkg>IP (Internet Protocol) is a connectionless, best-effort packet switching protocol. It provides packet routing, fragmentation and re-assembly through the data link layer. To check yours, go to http://iplookup.flashfxp.com/ or ask me about <myip>. Also <intellectual property>.
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03:00<ach>ip address
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03:01<Synthea>ach, how is supposed that to help?
03:02<ach>!netstat
03:02<dpkg>ach netstat - Prints network connections, routing tables, interface statistics, masquerade connections, and multi-cast memberships. try netstat -pantu to also see which daemon serves which port
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05:40<grummund>Is it possible to have initramfs be more verbose during boot?
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05:44<somiaj>you have already removed quiet from the linux command linie variable in /etc/default/grub
05:45<grummund>somiaj: no, that's probably what i need then. thanks.
05:45<somiaj>rum update-grub afterwards
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06:29<londnoir>hello all, is there someone having trouble with sound system on debian buster these days ?
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06:30<londnoir>since an small update, I can't play any sound from my desktop, but my main sound card still visible to the systeme (lspci) and I can even play sound with it if I use "aplay -D hw:0"
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06:31<londnoir>I noticed the volume application had trouble to list devices
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11:15<xristos>Hello all! Is there a way to find why my eth0 stopped working or to what it has been renamed after an upgrade from 8 to 9 without booting the hdd?(only mounting it)
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11:19<olasd>xristos: you should be able to look at the system logs in /<mountpoint>/var/log
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11:20<xristos>olasd: Nothing found there. dmesg is old, before the upgrade. no kern file..
11:21<b17>xristos: you did an upgrade, but never rebooted?
11:21<xristos>b17: upgraded, rebooted can't SSH to the machine cause of no ip. (can't either connect it to a monitor. it's a wd my cloud)
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11:22<xristos>the debian used is armhf so I guess I can't boot it off from pc
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11:22<dragon12>is there any way to get rid of error 'Access to all Sanesecurity mirror sites failed - Check for connectivity issues
11:22<dragon12>or signature database name(s) misspelled in the script's configuration file.'?
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11:28<b17>xristos: i still dont see why you would not have current logs?
11:29<b17>dmesg isn;t saved anymore i think, but kern and syslog should be there
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11:32<chealer>I built a patched version of stable's akonadi, which fixed, as indicated in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365944#c27
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11:38<grummund>Just checking - should options in /etc/modprobe.d/mdadm be applied during initramfs startup?
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13:03<toad_>Why does debian have libjets3t but not the official amazon library? Is there any way I can easily get it in a way that gets updated short of using Maven?
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13:05<toad_>Also do either libjets3t or awscli support huge files / multipart?
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13:11<somiaj>toad_: what particular tools are you talking about, aws-cli?
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13:14<somiaj>but there is the awscli package
13:15<somiaj>there is also s3cmd and s4cmd, and a libs3-2
13:16<toad_>So I have some code that uploads backups to S3 using the official amazon library ... but I have to update that manually because it's not packaged
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13:16<somiaj>I don't know what you mean by the offical amazon libarary?
13:16<toad_>I'd like to replace it with something that is packaged
13:16<toad_>https://aws.amazon.com/sdk-for-java/
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13:16<toad_>https://github.com/aws/aws-sdk-java
13:16<toad_>"The official AWS SDK for Java"
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13:17<toad_>Some of my files are big enough that they need multipart upload ... I guess I'll need to test each tool/library to determine whether they can do that?
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13:18<somiaj>well awscli is offically amazon, that is just https://aws.amazon.com/cli/
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13:19<toad_>Okay so it probably supports big files then ... hmmm
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13:21<toad_>So the next question is why the hell am I munging filenames ...
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13:22<toad_>I think I'm doing way more work than I need to ... hmmm
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15:09<rain1>http://paste.debian.net/1030571 dist upgrade failed :( what should I do?
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15:21<Synthea>Is there a way to restart a USB device who provides a virtual interface without unplugging it?
15:22<Synthea>In a nutshell what nmcli does but without nmcli and from terminal
15:22<b17_>rain1: running testing/sid?
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15:23<grummund>What's a good way to virtualise debian for the purpose of tracking down a suspected bug somewhere in initramfs (probably) related to RAID startup?
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15:27<rain1>im not sure
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15:28<b17_>rain1: you ver of libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 is from testing/sid, also what does apt-get -u do?
15:28<aguitel>why this error :https://bpaste.net/show/fb0c8166f395
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15:28<rain1>it shows apt-get usage, 1.6.1 is the version
15:29<jelly>grummund: some way you can actually reproduce the same raid setup?
15:29<b17_>#debian-next is for testing maybe they know if it's a temp problem
15:30<grummund>jelly: i just need a stock install with RAID1 + LUKS + LVM, then remove one of the RAID drives and see what happens.
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15:30<grummund>jelly: i suspect a bug and it's taking forever to test on the real hardware with 3 minute buut cycle.
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15:47<b17_>grummund: I never used raid, did you follow some guide to set it up? I see you have been working on it a couple days?
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15:48<grummund>b17_: it worked fine for me on Jessie. i now suspect a fundamental bu somewhere in Stretch.
15:48<grummund>it would be far quicker to track down using virtualisation of some form.
15:50<b17_>grummund: yeah several things have changed since jessie, I miss it sometimes myself. We got to keep figuring things out though.
15:51<b17_>you have a /boot part and installed grub on both drives? is that how it works?
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15:52<grummund>b17_: yes it works fine with both drives present.
15:52<b17_>and it should work if one fails, so removing either leaves you with no boot, right?
15:52<grummund>b17_: in a nutshell, it drops to initramfs prompt if either drive is missing.
15:53<grummund>the array caj be started from initramfsprompt but i consider this to be a bug.
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15:54*grummund has been poking around for a fix/workaround but each boot cycle costs like 5 minutes ;-/
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15:59<b17_>are the drives identical?
15:59<grummund>identical size, different models. like i said it behaved as expected on Jessie.
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16:01<b17_>grummund: swap does not go on raid? or am i wrong?
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16:04<grummund>/boot is RAID /dev/md0. all other partitions including swap are LVM on LUKS on RAID /dev/md1.
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16:25<jelly>sounds like something does not want to assemble a degraded array even if that's kind of the point of raid
16:26<grummund>yes exactly
16:26<jelly>are both md0 and md1 marked as required for boot in "dpkg-reconfigure mdadm"?
16:27<jelly>are there any other ARRAY lines in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf apart from those two?
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16:27<grummund>unsure about that.
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16:28<jelly>you can rerun that command, it's reasonably safe
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16:28<grummund>jelly: i want to try with kvm, it's the only way forward.
16:28<grummund>kvm -hda hda.qcow2 -hdb hdb.qcow2 -cdrom debian-9.4.0-i386-netinst.iso -boot once=d
16:28<grummund>when i do that the installer complains of insufficient memory.
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16:30<petn-randall>grummund: What issue are you trying to fix? IIRC Debian will not boot from a degraded array unless you tell it to.
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16:31<jhutchins_wk>Which might be a feature so you don't ignore a degraded array.
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16:32<jhutchins_wk>I've seen more than one array fail when the SECOND drive failed.
16:32<grummund>petn-randall: in that case, do you know how to tell it to do that, other than manually start the arrays from initramfs prompt?
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16:34<petn-randall>grummund: Don't recall, but have you tried the options in https://serverfault.com/questions/196445/boot-debian-while-raid-array-is-degraded yet?
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16:34<grummund>jhutchins_wk: happy tpo defer to that opinion, but btw there is at least one bug in BTS, now fixed, and several discussion where the accepted view is that refused booting with degraded RAID1 is a broken design.
16:35<jelly>grummund: also, it's a regression
16:35<jhutchins_wk>I would want the system to at least pause for acknowledgment before booting to a degraded array.
16:35<jelly>dunno about jessie, but it worked in squeeze or so
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16:36<grummund>petn-randall: yes, from that thread i tried adding start_dirty_degraded=1 to md_mod module options.
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16:36<jhutchins_wk>grummund: But it's not refusing to boot, it's just requiring intervention.
16:36<jelly>jhutchins_wk: that's what refusing means.
16:36<petn-randall>:)
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16:37<grummund>jhutchins_wk: it's a change in behaviour from Jessie to Stretch (or it will be if I can confirm independently with a KVM).
16:37<jhutchins_wk>I wonder if it's just a different default.
16:37<petn-randall>grummund: Have you tried adding it as a kernel option to /etc/default/grub? Every module parameter can be set there by adding <modulename>.<parameter>=<value> to the kernel command line.
16:38<petn-randall>I'm not sure if the module options are already read in the initramfs.
16:38<grummund>petn-randall: haven't tried that, but i did echo the module options from initramfs script and it was set to '1'.
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16:41<grummund>And actually it's starting to bother me more not understanding *why* it behaves this way, than the actual behaviour itself. ;-)
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17:35<grummund>With a more trivial install (no LUKS, no separate /boot, ...) it *does* boot, unprompted, with degraded RAID1.
17:37<grummund>(that is under kvm, and also different kernel)
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18:14<qtc>Hello. Does the Debian version for Wandboard Quad motherboards contains non-free software ? Thanks
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18:18<chealer>qtc: which version is that?
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18:19<qtc>http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-armhf/current/images/netboot/SD-card-images/
18:19<qtc>firmware.Wandboard_Quad.img.gz
18:19<qtc>chealer : Here is the wiki page : https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Wandboard
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18:22<jesusjesus>Hi there!
18:23<jesusjesus>Hey chealer! What's up?
18:25<jesusjesus>I'm looking for some new user and contributors on LInux systems
18:25<jesusjesus>I want to know how things are going with FSF
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18:27<jesusjesus>Reporting from Venezuela
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19:04<ryuu>Hello all, how can I upgrade from Jessie to Stretch without losing the eth0 names etc? (Predictable Network Interfaces)
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19:10<petn-randall>ryuu: You don't need to do anything, it stays the same on upgrades.
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19:11<ryuu>petn-randall: well I don't know if it's relevant but I don't have any 70-persistent-net.rules file
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19:13<petn-randall>ryuu: You can always generate one to be safe.
19:13<ryuu>petn-randall: trying to do that, but can't do it for some reason.. it doesn't generate
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19:14<petn-randall>ryuu: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
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19:14<petn-randall>ryuu: Put the MAC address in place of the x's and you should be fine.
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19:17<b17_>ryuu: I used net.ifnames=0 for a week or so until i figured out it really doesn;t matter
19:18<b17_>kernel param
19:18<ryuu>petn-randall: done. created the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules anything else I should do? I saw something about /lib/udev
19:18<ryuu>b17_: yeah, can't use net.ifnames=0, no grub
19:19<ryuu>armhf build
19:19<somiaj_>or use systemd.link files, they work too
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19:20<b17_>I figured eth0 is dead and gone, might as well get used to it
19:21<somiaj_>depends, I have software that doesn't work with the new names.
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19:21<petn-randall>o_O
19:21<somiaj_>silly software hard coded to look for ethX to use the mac-address to identify my hardware for licenses.
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19:35<ryuu>so I need some more help. I've got 2 NICs. One is connected with the router the other with another computer. I've checked the "Shared to other computers" but whenever I do 'ifconfig' to find the ip address of the second computer I only get a inet6 instead of inet
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19:37<petn-randall>ryuu: "Shared to other computers"? Where are you setting that?
19:38<ryuu>oops forgot I was in debian ahah. Well atm i'm using Ubuntu to set up a debian pc that I can't hook up to a monitor. sorry!
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19:39<petn-randall>ryuu: That's a setting in Ubuntu? That sounds like Windows. :)
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19:39<ryuu>petn-randall: Yeap it's in Network Manager
19:40<ryuu>or whatever it is called
19:40<b17>ip nowadays can show more than ifconfig, try ip address or so
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19:41<b17>paste.debian.net is cool man
19:42<ryuu>b17: nope still inet6
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22:31-!-balrog is "balrog" on #qemu #oftc #msys2 #mingw-w64 #lldb #linuxfs #kernelnewbies #https-everywhere #gcc #fish #debian-next #debian-games #debian-68k #debian #cryptodotis #bcache
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