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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-06-29

---Logopened Fri Jun 29 09:57:09 2018
09:57-!-mikegrb [~mikegrb@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:57-!-Irssi: #debian: Total of 233 nicks [4 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 229 normal]
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09:59-!-sentriz is "Senan" on #debian
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10:03-!-Blacker47 is "Blacker47" on #debian-til #debian-next #debian
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10:06-!-jacob_ is "Jacob" on #debian #debian-next
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10:11-!-silver is "silver" on #oftc #linux #mm #neurodebian #debconf-cambridge #debian-mysql #debian-kde #debian-science #debian-next #debian #debian-meeting
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10:18-!-blast007 is "blast" on #debian #debian-games
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10:23-!-andre__ is "andre" on #debian #smuxi
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10:25-!-shiru is "realname" on #debian
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10:26-!-llandon is "Andreas Schwarz" on #debian #debian-next
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10:27-!-jhutchins_wk is "Jonathan Hutchins" on #oftc #debian
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10:28-!-Synthea is "Synthea" on #debian #debian-it
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10:30-!-robotika is "realname" on #debian
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10:38-!-Jan\ is "KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://kvirc.net/" on #osm #debian
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10:40-!-ribe is "ribe" on #debian #debian-next #tor-relays #tor-project
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10:41-!-TTwrs is "realname" on #debian
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10:43-!-wytchmaster is "Andreas " on #debian
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10:44-!-TimWolla is "TimWolla" on #debian #packaging #munin #debian-lts
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10:44-!-Cerebral is "user" on #debian-perl #debian-reproducible #debian-ruby #debian-science #debian-tech #debian-welcome #debian-xfce #hackbeach #linux-rt #linuxfs #otr #privacytech #privacytools.io #qubes #subgraph #security #whonix #xen #redditprivacy #python #coyim #Corsair #debian-browserify #debian-apt #debian-gnome #debian-xen #debian-forensics #debian-gnupg #debian-kbsd #debian #i2p #tinc #tor-relays
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10:45-!-drakonis is "realname" on #debian-games #debian-til #debian-reproducible #debian #debian-next
10:47<shiru>bye
10:47<petn-randall>bye shiru
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10:54-!-shirish[m] is "@shirish:matrix.org" on #debian #fsci #debian-in #debian-welcome #debian-games #debian-publicity
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10:54-!-abreu[m] is "@abreu:matrix.org" on #debian #Qubes_OS #subgraph #paradigma
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10:55-!-mujeebcpy[m] is "@mujeebcpy:matrix.org" on #debian #plus #libreuniverse #fsci #debian-browserify
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10:55-!-jhutchin1_wk is "Jonathan Hutchins" on #oftc #debian
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11:04<cereal|bot>petn-randall: I was wanting a memory wipe that would also wipe luks keys which seem to require that the kernel be shutdown before the wipe
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11:06<petn-randall>cereal|bot: `cryptsetup luksClose` already wipes the key from memory, and that is done automatically on shutdown.
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11:31<honey>hi
11:32<petn-randall>hi honey
11:32<honey>hello plz help me
11:33<petn-randall>honey: We can only help if you ask.
11:34<honey>how can hack college website
11:34<petn-randall>honey: swing with the arms.
11:35<petn-randall>honey: How is that related to Debian?
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11:35<Zimsky>maybe it's the University of Debian
11:35<honey>ok
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11:36<honey>soory
11:36<honey>bye............
11:36<Zimsky>goodbye friend
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11:36<silver>how do i get into #debian-offtopic with nickserv down. I'm authenticated with ssl certificate
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11:37<petn-randall>silver: There are a bunch of things that OFTC needs to fix to get nickserv back up. I'm guessing it'll get fixing in the next hours.
11:37<silver>ok thanks
11:38<Zimsky>things like this are exactly why that trend of "no one should keep +o unless they need to do something with it" is silly
11:41<petn-randall>Zimsky: How is that related?
11:42<Zimsky>"There are a bunch of things that OFTC needs to fix to get nickserv back up. I'm guessing it'll get fixing in the next hours."
11:42<petn-randall>Zimsky: How would running around with +o fix that issue?
11:43<Zimsky>the relevant people running the channel can just disable services auth methods like +r or +i ~$a and so on
11:44<cereal|bot>petn-randall: nice I did not realize that luks did wipe the key on shutdown
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12:34<sleepy_>hi, after 3min of uptime my jessie pc goes to sleep and i can't figure out why
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12:40<petn-randall>sleepy_: To sleep? You mean suspend, or does it turn off?
12:41<sleepy_>petn-randall: suspend
12:41<petn-randall>sleepy_: You can check the system logs.
12:41<petn-randall>sleepy_: Is it a server or a desktop?
12:41<sleepy_>which part?
12:41<sleepy_>desktop
12:41<petn-randall>sleepy_: /var/log/syslog and daemon.log.
12:42<sleepy_>i masked suspend.target now i have suspend / cannot suspend over and over in auth.log
12:43<petn-randall>sleepy_: That's probably not a good way to fix the issue.
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12:43<petn-randall>sleepy_: Most desktop environment have settings for power management. Check if it's got suspending set.
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12:45<sleepy_>what am i looking for in logs?
12:46<petn-randall>sleepy_: Anything that hints to what is suspending your machine.
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12:47<sleepy_>rsyslog-2007: action 'action 17' suspended, next retry is ... in syslog
12:48<sleepy_>now i have to reboot again
12:48<petn-randall>why?
12:49<sleepy_>won't come back from suspend, or fills up my hdd with that suspend ... / cannot suspend msg
12:53<sleepy_>petn-randall: i also tried systemctl-inhibit top, but w/o luck
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12:54<sleepy_>increased 'timers' in /etc/systemd/system.conf. had a look at systemctl list-timers --all
12:56<petn-randall>sleepy_: Have you looked into what I said yet?
12:56<sleepy_>since suspend gets invoked thousands of times each minute, i tried ps auxww | grep -i suspend - nothing
12:56<sleepy_>petn-randall: acpi?
12:57<petn-randall>sleepy_: Look in the power management settings of your DE.
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12:58<sleepy_>petn-randall: now i have to reload the page, sorry
12:59<sleepy_>uh no, now it works again
12:59<sleepy_>could you help me with power management?
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13:00<sleepy_>not sure about the commands atm
13:00<petn-randall>sleepy_: What DE are you running?
13:00<sleepy_>no DE
13:00<petn-randall>sleepy_: I thought it was a desktop?
13:01<sleepy_>
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13:02<sleepy_>oh, desktop requieres X? then it's a server ;)
13:02<petn-randall>aaah, that explains a lot.
13:03<sleepy_>it does?
13:03<petn-randall>sleepy_: In that case, unless you have a DE installed, nothing should suspend the machine. Unless you either have bugs in your BIOS, or you installed something specifically to do that.
13:03<sleepy_>
13:04<sleepy_>i'm not aware that i installed anything alike
13:04<sleepy_>so it's a bug?
13:04<petn-randall>sleepy_: laptop-mode-tools installed?
13:04<sleepy_>what to do then?
13:04<petn-randall>(it shouldn't be installed, that is)
13:05<sleepy_>i think they get installed automatically?
13:05<petn-randall>nope
13:06<sleepy_>ok, i did not install them
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13:07<sney>maybe it's interpreting something as a suspend button press
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13:09<petn-randall>^ That's my hunch.
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13:11<sney>seems like clearing /etc/acpi/events would disable that (or just remove acpi-support-base)
13:13<petn-randall>Or watchdog even, though that would reboot the machine, not suspend it.
13:13<petn-randall>*event
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13:17<sleepy_>let me try noacpi
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13:18<petn-randall>yikes
13:20<sleepy_>i start up top and can see, the minute uptime flips from 2 to 3min, systemd and logind startinf filling up auth.log
13:22<sleepy_>is 'noacpi' a valid kernel opt?
13:22<petn-randall>sleepy_: yes, though it kills anything ACPI related, even powermanagement.
13:22<sleepy_>
13:23<sleepy_>but does not help
13:23<sleepy_>same as before
13:23<petn-randall>I'm not that surprised.
13:23<petn-randall>Oh wait, it's acpi=off.
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13:24<sleepy_>ok, let me retry
13:24<petn-randall>sleepy_: What kind of machine is this exactly?
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13:24<sney>also, is it suspending to ram or to disk?
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13:26<sleepy_>
13:26<jhutchins_wk>sleepy_: What release?
13:27<petn-randall>sleepy_: Are you sending empty messages to the channel, or unicode chars?
13:27*petn-randall sees nothing in the message content.
13:29<sleepy_>amilo m7405
13:29<sleepy_>petn-randall: empty
13:30<sleepy_>to fix scfolling issues i have with the webchat client
13:30<sleepy_>ok, with acpi=off it disapears
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13:32<sleepy_>suspending to ram
13:32<sleepy_>uih, pc won't even shutdown w/o acpi
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13:36<grawity>acpi is what makes all those things happen...
13:36<grawity>or apm if you're on a 15-year-old machine, but no
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13:47<sleepy_>lost connection
13:48<sleepy_>anyone said anything after 'apm'?
13:48<sleepy_>8min ago
13:51<blast007>no
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13:51<sleepy_>ok, thx
13:52<sleepy_>bbl
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14:24<pro>i'm new in this chat..someone tell me about this
14:25<retrospectacus>Welcome to debian support. Please ask your debian support question
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16:53<root__>hi
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16:55<retrospectacus>rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
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17:09<root__>yes
17:11<blast007>!root
17:11<dpkg>It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306
17:12<root__>oh
17:12<root__>its right
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17:42<marksmullen>\o Hi all. I'm running into a curious issue and wonder if y'all might have some direction as to what to check out next. I have a Debian 8 system running into iowait locks from rogue devicemapper-created objects. I've been monitoring the system with iotop, iostat, vmstat, and top to track down what's up. I haven't yet been able to find out what's creating or using these devicemapper directories
17:42<marksmullen>(/dev/dm-#) -- the system halts with 100% iowait whenever the issue arises, and the dm items in question don't exist after a restart... not sure yet where to go from here. Haven't seen any results from iotop that indicate high usage, in spite of the high iowait shown in iostat/vmstat/top.
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17:47<sarnold>marksmullen: maybe some auditd file watch rules on those directories would let you see which process created them.. maybe sysdig system recording? that might be kinda heavy..
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17:56<marksmullen>Hmm... I'll have to research both of those, sarnold. Thanks for the thoughts!
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17:59<marksmullen>The system runs a Docker registry (which I believe to be related to the issue, but can't yet prove...), so I think it may be feasible to employ a sysdig system recording.
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18:38<dakemond34>Hola
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18:38<retrospectacus>hello
18:39<annadane>!es
18:39<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
18:39<dakemond34>You speaking English '
18:39<dakemond34>?
18:39<retrospectacus>!English
18:39<dpkg>English as a language (and other uses) has plenty of background on wikipedia, however for #debian support, it's the primary and best supported language here. Please use other specific language channels (even if they're very idle), a related mailing list, or your best English here anyway (we'll try to cope).
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18:43<dakemond34>Hello my Friends
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19:15<Synthea>How can I create something that restart services on a network after that it has gone down?
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19:15<Synthea>Ok not the best explaination
19:16<Synthea>Something like: connection to internet goes down
19:16<Synthea>The server detect it
19:16<Synthea>The server when the connection to the net is available again restart the services
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19:28<ais-admin>Ther are many ways a "connection to the internet" can go down. If you dont need to know WHY it went down then you can simply write a script that pings something "on the internet" on a schedule. Have the script monitor a variable that is set from the ping responses and when it sees it go from down to up branch to take whatever action you would like. (In this case - systemctl restart foo)
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19:57<Synthea>ais-admin, can I get it from responses to services?
19:57<Synthea>For example, there's miredo, when miredo doesn't get answers it assumes that there is no internet
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19:59<Synthea>Or captures packets received from an interface without going in promiscuous mode and when too many icmp bad responses are received it assumes network is down
19:59<bhost>I need
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20:02<Synthea>We live in a society
20:02<ais-admin>Snythea - just read the result code from the ping command - hang on I'm writing an example
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20:09<ach><Synthea> The server when the connection to the net is available again restart the services
20:09<ach>no you couldn't that without risk security
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20:10<Synthea>ach, why?
20:11<ach>cause it's against the normal way the client runs a script to contact the server
20:11<ach>also a server where in some way then a client
20:12<ach>he has an outbount connect
20:12<ach>and that's against the security
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20:16<Synthea>ach, what's supposed to mean
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20:16<ach>the client act always on the server
20:16<ach><.<
20:17<Synthea>Okay
20:17<Synthea>Now
20:17<Synthea>The things are two
20:18<Synthea>Or you explain yourself better, because this seems like Alex Jones talks
20:18<Synthea>Or the only explaination left is that you're writing after 44 hours of programming in brainfuck
20:19<Synthea>Because man it doesn't really make sense what are you saying
20:19<ach>exact that what i said
20:20<Synthea>*headscratchs*
20:21<blast007>Synthea: ach tends to say a bunch of nonsense
20:21<Synthea>I've noticed
20:21<ach>idc.
20:21<ais-admin>Synthea this is a demonstrator script that shows how to read the result code of a ping and take actions based on the resuts. http://paste.debian.net/1031392/
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20:24<Synthea>ais-admin, two questions, does it work well as sysvinit service?
20:24<Synthea>What addresses does it ping?
20:24<Synthea>*address
20:25<ais-admin>its just a bash script - I suppose you could turn it into a service if you really wanted to. It pings google - I just chose that at random
20:25<Synthea>1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
20:25<Synthea>UHM
20:26<ais-admin>if you wanted to implement something like this you could use your upstream gateway ip I suppose
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20:41<Synthea>ais-admin, with -W 1 doesn't work
20:41<Synthea>If I raise to W2 or W3 yes
20:42<ais-admin>ok you must have a very slow connection then. It's not meant to be a solution - it's to demonstrate a concept.
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21:17<hellodarkness>is this the help channel?
21:17<bremner>!ask
21:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
21:18<hellodarkness>i uninstall nvidia* because i was having problems with a second display and was going to reinstall and reconfigure
21:18<hellodarkness>but on restart i cant get a terminal to reinstall it
21:18<hellodarkness>ctrl alt f1-7 doesnt bring up tty, editing grub didn't work
21:19<hellodarkness>just wondering if theres any way to boot to a console without xserver or anything nvidia related
21:21<bremner>can you ssh into the box?
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21:24<hellodarkness>nah
21:25<hellodarkness>i did put init=/bin/bash and got the single user console
21:25<hellodarkness>thought i could do it from there but cant get the network up
21:25<hellodarkness>maybe could turn ssh on from that
21:26<hellodarkness>thing is, not even sure it's booting properly because if i leave it be it just restarts
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21:30<hellodarkness>anyway i just finished making another live cd so... cheerio! o/
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22:04<mnuhmnuh>i want to find stretch ver. of https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-dvd/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.jigdo - help; where?
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22:11<blast007>mnuhmnuh: this? https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
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22:27<mnuhmnuh>trying that, thanks. can't seem to remember how to work jigdo atm. research. never tough before.
22:28<annadane>https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/
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22:32<mnuhmnuh>i've been using it for years. it's never been difficult/complex/deep.
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22:33<mnuhmnuh>pebkac, i'm sure.
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22:41<cef>So, someones irc account got breached I guess?
22:41<sarnold>several
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22:42<cef>:( Related to the freenode stuff too I guess?
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22:42<sarnold>yes, at least one account in common between the two, heh
22:43<cef>Glad I use different passwords on each service.
22:43<sarnold>we are too :)
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22:50<somiaj>#oftc is probably a better place to discuss the issue than here, though it is mostly dealt with and being cleaned up, life cna move on
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22:50<mnuhmnuh>r. p. feynman was proving this flaw back when manhattan proj. was underway. they thought him a magician, or spy. safecracking by surfing shoulders.
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23:03<mnuhmnuh>good old wget. ty, saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se.
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