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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-06-30

---Logopened Sat Jun 30 00:00:15 2018
00:05<mnuhmnuh>stretch/stable is debian-9.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso, yes?
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00:07<annadane>indeed
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00:12<mnuhmnuh>thank you. i've decided to take the advice and try again. slambam jessie-->buster is just wrong (and sound's refusing to work :-). life. it's educational.
00:13<annadane>yeah, figures
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01:09<mrtrue>hi
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01:24<shreyansh_k>Hi guys, what is the recommended way to package a python package? Any pointers/urls would do. thanks
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01:29<@themill>https://wiki.debian.org/Python/Pybuild
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01:30<@themill>also https://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide
01:36<mnuhmnuh>#debian-mentors may help
01:37<somiaj>#packaging would be more appropriate unless this was to get a package into debian (not build one)
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03:48<snrtherock>Hi there
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04:01<shreyansh_k>Hi, newbie here. Trying to install bsdtar. apt keeps on saying: "unable to locate package bsdtar". What am I missing?
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04:06<Nemoder>transitional dummy package for moving bsdtar to libarchive-tools
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04:08<Nemoder>shreyansh_k: what is in your sources.list?
04:09<shreyansh_k>Nemoder: Turns out I was missing some lines in sources.list. I just installed debian, isn't it supposed to be taken care of?
04:09<shreyansh_k>Nemoder: I can install bsdtar now.
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04:10<Nemoder>if you used the net installer it should have been
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04:11<shreyansh_k>Nemoder: I used the net installer but internet was not connected during install.
04:12<Nemoder>I guess that makes sense then
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04:15<shreyansh_k>Nemoder: Don't know. Thank you anyway.
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04:17<annadane>shreyansh_k, well it's a bit late to change this now i guess but did you use the stable installer or the testing installer?
04:17<annadane>!testing installer
04:17<dpkg>Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
04:17<annadane>as dpkg says the usual way to "install testing" is to instead install a minimal stable and update from there
04:18<shreyansh_k>annadane: stable. debian 9.4
04:18<grummund>Hi, Which package provides the man page for 'mailname', or how to find it?
04:18<annadane>wait, what the hell.
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04:18<shreyansh_k>annadane: deb-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso
04:18<annadane>you didn't even try to install testing, i very seriously misread that entire last few lines
04:18<annadane>i'm sorry
04:18<annadane>i should clearly go to bed
04:19<shreyansh_k>annadane: Oh! Don't worry about it. :) Thank you.
04:19<annadane>ANYWAY,
04:19<annadane>!stretch sources.list
04:19<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
04:19<annadane>that's what you should have
04:20<annadane>god i'm an idiot. sorry. :P
04:21<GI-Joe>I can't count. 9.4?
04:21<annadane>9.4 is the latest stable, yes
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04:22<annadane>odd; when i try looking up the manpage for mailname, it's only in french
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04:26<annadane>GI-Joe, though it'll be 9.5 very soon
04:26<annadane>apparently the latest revision of mailname is from 2002
04:26*grummund gets "No manual entry for mailname"
04:27<annadane>yeah i searched for it on manpages.debian.org
04:27*grummund is just curious because it was there in Jessie.
04:27<annadane>,v mailname
04:27<judd>No package named 'mailname' was found in amd64.
04:27<annadane>well it's not a package by itself
04:27<annadane>lemme check the tracker
04:28<annadane>nothing there either, doesn't seem to be part of a source package
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04:28<grummund>/etc/mailname created by the installer, probably. the question is re the man page for it.
04:29*grummund notices that "man mailname" works on Jessie but not on Stretch it seems.
04:29<grummund>which is odd, that's all.
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04:30<annadane>it may be a change in exim4/sendmail
04:30<annadane>i really don't know how to investigate it, though
04:31<annadane>there's https://wiki.debian.org/EtcMailName which doesn't at first glance seem to be especially helpful
04:32<annadane>not every man page has to be a binary package, incidentally
04:32<grummund>apt-file search mailname.5.gz
04:33<grummund>manpages: /usr/share/man/man5/mailname.5.gz
04:33<grummund>manpages-fr: /usr/share/man/fr/man5/mailname.5.gz
04:33<grummund>the first one is absent on Stretch.
04:34<annadane>if i had a jessie vm i could probably answer it
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04:35<grummund>teh above is from Jessie.
04:35<annadane>oh, right.
04:35<annadane>i'm going to sleep. i'm too braindead to do this
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05:19<guilherme>Hi, I was checking my system and I realized that I have 3192 installed packages. It seams too much. How can I look for unused packages? I tried to use deborphan and debfoster to help me.
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07:48<grummund>apt-file search /usr/bin/mail | grep '/mail$'
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07:48<grummund>^ returns nothing, what's the Right Way to search, and actually which package gives /usr/bin/mail anway?
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07:49<grummund>ah, nvm. it's a symlink
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07:52<bremner>dpkg -S is good for installed packages
07:52<dpkg>Badgers ate my is good for installed packages!
07:52<bremner>hush, bot
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07:54<grummund>is there a way to list alternatives (for /usr/bin/mail) or do i just browse the package lists
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08:11<b17>grummund: /usr/bin/mail points to /etc/alternatives/mail here do you know how to use debian alternatives?
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08:13<grummund>b17: figured out it was alternatives but not how to list what those alternative are.
08:14<grummund>b17: ... as in what other packages to consider installing.
08:15<b17>i am only aware of two, bsd-mailx and the other one, forget the name atm
08:15<b17>might be more
08:15<grummund>b17: but Google suggested 'heirloom-mailx', which solved th immediate issue anyway.
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10:07<amacater>!ask
10:07<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:54<guilherme>Hi, I was checking my system and I realized that I have 3192 installed packages. It seams too much. How can I look for unused packages? I tried to use deborphan and debfoster to help me.
10:54<bremner>dpigs might be more interesting, to tell you what is using disk space
10:56<guilherme>my system is quite old (about 3 years) so I might have installed libs and progs that I do not use anymore. I just would like to purge them
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11:00<amacater>apt-get autoremove may wok
11:00<b17>guilherme: that's a good idea, but nobody will know which you use.
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11:01<b17>i like aptitude, then apt-get autoremove every now and then.
11:01<guilherme>I tried the apt-get autoremove, it seams that everything is already done
11:01<guilherme>but if I had installed a lib it will not get it, right?
11:02<b17>no, only automatically installed, that's why i never do that
11:02<b17>dpkg -i is the same way
11:02*dpkg installs is the same way into b17's head with a bone saw and a few screws
11:03<guilherme>I do not usually do that, but I think I did it a few times in the past
11:04<guilherme>so, I can list the manually installed and check for their dependencies manually? Would it work?
11:05<b17>i remember a long thread about it on the forum or mailing list, I don;t think there is an easy way to straighten it out. I do it manually with aptitude, might take awhile with 3,000 pkgs, like a couple hours?
11:06<guilherme>ok, but most of the packages were installed on the right way
11:07<b17>well, in aptitude you can hit i, until the windows shows whether or not a pkg depends on each, mark it with m or M, then run apt-get autoremove.
11:07<guilherme>I mean, checking every package in apt-mark showmanual
11:07<b17>set it to advabce when you press a key, goes pretty fast
11:08<guilherme>ok, ok, I see
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11:11<b17>guilherme: if you get rid of recommends or suggests you can clean out a lot.
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11:13<guilherme>ok, thanks
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15:43<oescolhido>helo men to hero
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16:01<annadane>oescolhido, hi. do you have a debian support question? we can perhaps point you to a channel which speaks your native language
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16:35<simon_>Rats the process apt wants to stop is now a zombie... Just remove the pid from /var/{mumble}/pid? I don't want to reboot just yet - middle of upgrade.
16:39<simon_>Hmm, that seems to have given me another zombie, +1 for consistency. I just want to purge this package without stopping or starting it. It isn't important (postgrey) it is all transient data etc. Heck I might just remove it from the configuration entirely..
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16:46<somiaj>you can edit the install/remove scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info if needed to bypass stuff so they exit correctly
16:46<somiaj>one hack hammer is put exit 0 at the top, though be preapred for any artifiacts left around due to that
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16:56<simon_>somiaj thanks. I have no idea what happened but commenting out the stop in the postgrey.prerm script resulted in the removal command installing a version of postgrey that actually starts without becoming a zombie. I'm not fighting it, this box is in a mess, I just need to get everything back working this evening, and I can plan migrating it to a freshly installed box or moving services off it.
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16:59<simon_>No I tell a lie I just caught it before it became a zombie :(
17:01<simon_>Ah seems I deleted everything in the "if" block, so it was throwing an error, and thus it restarted it.
17:01<somiaj>unsure about the particulars of your sistuation, but maybe getting the packages to think they installed correctly is just the first step, but after that you can start manually trying to fix things.
17:02<simon_>dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq postgrey # worked - yay
17:02*dpkg rips the still-beating --force-remove-reinstreq postgrey # worked - yay from simon_'s chest, leaving simon_ in a coma.
17:02<somiaj>as mentioned a exit 0 at the top makes the package think it removed correctly with no errors
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17:02<highbee>facebook.com
17:03<highbee>tor browser
17:03<simon_>back to the expected 'apt-get upgrade' <- probably should use aptitude, but hey I'm upgrading this from Debian 6, nearly done...
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17:09<simon_>Oh dear, its finally got to trying to install systemd, and bang... ifupdown and udev have to go, and the group systemd-journal already exists (and this stops it installing by the looks of it).
17:09<somiaj>simon_: did you upgrade to 7 first?
17:09<somiaj>7 shoudln't install systemd
17:10<simon_>Yes, 7, and 8 were only expected pain... Although I may be due a reboot....
17:10<somiaj>you didn't reboot after each new kernel?
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17:10<somiaj>anyways, usually upgrades are smoother than this, but not always
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17:13<simon_>Not yet... Mostly I wasn't sure about the booting of this virtual machine. But yeah the upgrades were smooth till it got in a knot with the Perl dependencies for Postgrey. Doesn't look kernel-esque, although I can quite believe systemd is going to demand something new in the kernel.
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17:15<annadane>if you upgrade the kernel you should reboot
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17:23<simon_>Telling apt to fix itself, seems to have got it to carry on. Some weird mutterings from apt, but I think it is going to complete. Yes another kernel just went in.
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17:28<ryouma>this page http://deb.debian.org claims that https will work. i installed apt-transport-https, and got "W: Size of file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/deb.debian.org_debian-security_dists_jessie_updates_InRelease is not what the server reported". i also tried ftp.us. it had even more errors. is https just plain broken for ordinary users?
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17:32<mnuhmnuh>ryouma: no, it's just that https on the servers is a bit hit and miss at this point. still being rolled out.
17:32<simon_>Okay, down to reconstructing my email configuration in the new dovecot format (plus reinstalling the two policy daemons that didn't upgrade), websites are up already, email will take a bit longer. Will ask the nice support people at the hosting company to babysit a reboot on it, as I one of the grub install was wonky, hence the lack of reboots (just in case it didn't).
17:32<ryouma>mnuhmnuh: huh. but i looked up the bugs and they were from 2015...
17:32<ryouma>mnuhmnuh: are you suggesting if i just keep trying, it might work?
17:32<ryouma>(please note that i am using jessie.)
17:33<mnuhmnuh>ryouma: you're waiting for server admins to enable https on their systems.
17:34<ryouma>ok so that website is just talking about hte redirector itself, and fails to mention that the mirrors it pioitns to might or might no work?
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17:34<mnuhmnuh>so i understand.
17:34<ryouma>it seems that replay and freeze attacks, and privacy from all intermediate nodes, are improved by https, so i find it curious that https is not a mature option for ordinary users yet. debian was one of the first to have package signing, so i have high expectations of it. then agian, maybe enabling https is a really big deal or something. i am not an admin.
17:35<ryouma>i tried once with ftp.us. and twice with the recommended one (i added 2 lines, for backports and updates, dunno if that made it fail.
17:36<mnuhmnuh>i found it curious working for clients in 2008 that they still used ftp, rsh, telnet, ...
17:36<ryouma>hehe
17:36<ryouma>but this is debian!
17:36<ryouma>i wonder if i should use apt-transport-tor? or will that carry its own issues?
17:37<ryouma>maybe replay attacks still work there :(
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17:39<simon_>ryouma it is like you are channeling Alec Muffett
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17:39<ryouma>simon_: dunno who that is
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17:43<simon_>he made a similar observation about lack of HTTPS, but I think at the time apt-transport-https worked, he just thought it should be the default (for good reasons).
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17:45<annadane>!whydoesntaptusehttps
17:45<dpkg>https://whydoesaptnotusehttps.com/
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17:49<ryouma>annadane: i read that page, and some of the reddit discussion about it, before posting here. the page makes arguments that seem strange to me, in addition to making good points. i believe the page does not sufficiently address the issues i raised above. therefore, i basically disagree with the page.
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17:50<mnuhmnuh>https is not a magic bullet. the web's a mess.
17:51<ryouma>i am not claiming that it is a magic bullet. i am claiming that it improves replay and freeze attacks and privacy.
17:52<ryouma>(for example, right from the start, "even over an encrypted connection it is not difficult to figure out which files you are downloading based on the size of the transfer". really? with not much more effort? even when you take dependencies into account? even if so, this can't be fixed with chunking?)
17:53<ryouma>(or "There are over 400 "Certificate Authorities" who may issue certificates for any domain. Many have poor security records and some are even explicitly controlled by governments -- so it's 100% useless? really? should we stop using https on regular websites too?)
17:54<mnuhmnuh>that's the mess. i can't believe we settle for that.
17:54<ryouma>well sure. but i do not believe that it logically follows that https provides zero value for apt.
17:54<simon_>ryounma https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/809827191781527552
17:55<mnuhmnuh>we've seen rogue CAs come out of nowhere.
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17:56<ryouma>(another seemingly at least nearly fallacious argumetn on that page: "A switch to HTTPS would also mean you could not take advantage of local proxy servers for speeding up access and would additionally prohibit many kinds of peer-to-peer mirroring where files are stored on servers not controlled directly by your distribution. This would disproportionately affect users in remote locales. " -- really? we can't make h
17:56<ryouma>ttps and http both work?)
17:56<mnuhmnuh>this is likely better in -offtopic.
17:56<ryouma>ok
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17:57<Synthea>There's a way to set apt-get to use wget for downloading packets?
17:57<ryouma>but i guess i discovered that apt-transport-https does not work, and i would like to ask if apt-transport-tor would work any better or worse than http, which i hope is an on topic quesstion.
17:57<simon_>HTTPS is fine it stops easy MITM. The CA issue is a redherring we can add pinning if we care, Muffet just expected transport security he didn't say he cared which CA was used.
17:58<Synthea>ryouma, apt-transport-tor will delay downloads in terrible ways
17:58<simon_>apt-transport-tor is referenced in the twitter discussion, some people use it, so it likely works fine, since it gets you encryption to the end point it will provide similar or better safeguards that apt-transport-https
17:58<Synthea>It's good to be anonymous
17:59<Synthea>But tor uses near-always 3 hop relays
17:59<ryouma>simon_: oh i thought it had http at the exit node, which could be malicious
18:00<Synthea>And with 3 hop relays all the connections are fucking slow
18:00<Synthea>Btw if I'm not wrong the http response "Moved to X" can be given even on https
18:01<Synthea>And for the CA there's always let's encrypt
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18:02<simon_>ryouma I believe Tails uses tor+https, which suggests that at least one transport with https works. That said I don't use tor much, when I do I use tails, I mostly worry it always talks to the same few servers in Germany when starting...
18:02<ryouma>dunno, i'm just sticking with debian for now
18:03<ryouma>interesting though
18:03<simon_>I'm told I should use Brave browser as it now has an private browsing mode using tor under test...
18:04<ryouma>i did try tor through a browser setup. and a lot of the time, the search engine comes up in romanian. idk why.
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18:07<sney>ryouma: exit node
18:10<ryouma>sney: yeah but why would one get romanian exit nodes like 40% of the time?
18:10<sney>availability and lack of state oversight, maybe
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18:11<ryouma>i guess we are ot now but idgi
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18:14*mnuhmnuh "I'd like to change the world, but I don't know what to do, so I'll leave it up to you."
18:16<ryouma>i don't think that applies in this particular case
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18:18<mnuhmnuh>i'm still trying to understand how we've allowed ourselves to be hobbled by this wierd ca ecosystem. who ordered this?
18:18<mnuhmnuh>but, ot. eof.
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18:37<ryouma>what if i did this: find a mirror that supports https. use that. keep apt-transport-https. will that work?
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18:42<blast007>ryouma: deb.debian.org supposedly supports https. (mentioned at the bottom of http://deb.debian.org/ )
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18:51<ryouma>blast007: thanks. this is what i experienced: <ryouma> this page http://deb.debian.org claims that https will work. i installed apt-transport-https, and got "W: Size of file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/deb.debian.org_debian-security_dists_jessie_updates_InRelease is not what the server reported". i also tried ftp.us. it had even more errors. is https just plain broken for ordinary users?
18:52<ryouma>(so i am thinking of just picking a server that supports it. but i have to find one. or i will find a .onion and use that, but to do a dist-upgrade might be slow for that.)
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18:58<ryouma>kernel.org has https. but i tried it and got WFetched 13.7 MB in 19s (699 kB/s) : Failed to fetch https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/debian-security/dists/jessie/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages HttpError404
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21:49<Synthea>How can I create a dummy user with ssh login only?
21:50<Synthea>*ssh cert login only
21:51<ryouma>i finally figured out a more secure package getting. never got apt-transport-https to work. but i got apt-transport-tor to work. but for some reason aptitude's notion of new packages is permanently broken and everything is always new.
21:52<ryouma>that is, aptitude search '~N~Astable' and aptitude search '~N~Aoldstable' on jessie are always both always new
21:52<ryouma>so something i did destroyed that
21:52<ryouma>although all i did was change repos
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21:59<@themill>ryouma: 'new' doesn't mean what you think it means. https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/ch02s04s05.en.html#searchNew
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22:02<ryouma>themill: actually that is exactly what i thought it meant. but it was user error. i think i did not make aptitude forget. but still idk why changing servers changes that. but it's a trifle. now the question is whether it's worth using this apt-transport-tor thing all the time for regular upgrades, or during dist-upgrades only, or during installs only.
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22:06<@themill>apt has to know what sources.list entry packages come from; change the sources.list and the packages are different (aka new(
22:06<@themill>I can't imagine it's worth using tor for this at all
22:11<ryouma>was just reading a paper on vulns in package managers, and it was quite nicely done. the issues with http seem to be replay and freeze attacks and privacy of what packages you get. transport-https would make it a bit better for both (contrary to rumor) but i could not get that to work. but i got transport-tor to work.
22:12<ryouma>idk the real risks of those apt-get operations in practice after any workarounds
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