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00:56<ama>Hi all, Please, how to delete a user that uses process 966 ?
00:57<somiaj>why do you want to delete the user that is running that process, and not just the process? Also what user is running that process? ps faux | grep 966
00:57<ama>I tried to use 'userdel -r ama' and it returned the following message: 'userdel: user ama is currently used by process 966'
00:58<ach>-f
00:58<ama>I just want to delete this user, that's why....
00:59<somiaj>well kill the process first then
00:59<ama>should I use 'userdel -f ama' ?
00:59<jm_>it would be better if you stop those processes first
00:59<ama>ok and how to kill the process then ? newbie in debian and linux....
01:00<ach>kill 966
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01:00<jm_>:)
01:03<ach>^^
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01:03<ama>back again. I used 'kill 966' and it was impossible going on with that user 'ama'
01:04<ama>now, how to delete the user 'ama' ?
01:04<ama>'userdel -f ama' or 'userdel -r ama' ?
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01:05<ach>gnome-control-center
01:05<ach>various
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01:39<rown>hey iam not able to execute sudo nautilus
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01:40<somiaj>that sounds like a poor thing to do, but most likely due to sudo doesn't prserve xorg enviorment fully.
01:41<somiaj>why do you need to run nautilus as root?
01:41<rown>to add icons pack
01:42<jm_>where do you want to add that? (target directory)
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01:42<somiaj>you shouldn't need to do that as root
01:42<somiaj>just put the icson in $HOME/.icons or some directory like that
01:42<rown>i just want to know how to open nautilus with root
01:43<somiaj>I think that is just the wrong approach, but you'll have to ensure the sudo enviroment can correctly access the xorg session.
01:43<ach>!mc
01:43<dpkg>Midnight Commander is a cross-platform orthodox file manager, a clone of Norton Commander. It is a text mode application, with the main interface consisting of two panels which display the file system. Samba (SMB) support is disabled by default since mc 2:4.6.2~git20080311-1 (Debian bug #432324). http://www.midnight-commander.org/wiki/doc/faq http://www.midnight-commander.org/, or The best file manager.
01:43<somiaj>but sudo is a poor tool for running gui apps, there use to be gksu (I think stretch still has that), though policykit is the new tool
01:43<jm_>does it work if you use sudo -E?
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01:44<ach>run su and nautilus
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01:44<somiaj>still su will have the same problem, you need to setup the enviorment so root can access xorg correctly, and often this is a bad approach to doing things.
01:45<jm_>sux is handy for that, or enable pam_xauth.so in /etc/pam.d/su (better options since sux has some problems)
01:45<rob_debian>Hi all, please, my network is not working completely here: I access some websites, specially through main google page, such as youtube, but majority of them aren't reachable
01:45<rob_debian>is that related to process 966 that was killed here ?
01:45<rown>i got like Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
01:46<ach>no u ok
01:46<somiaj>rown: 966 process? pid's are somewhat random and don't mean much, out side of pid 1.
01:46<rob_debian>some minutes ago I tried to access irc channel and couldn't get it. now it is working, but I can't open yahoo main page, for example
01:46<somiaj>966 could be anything, as for network error figure out if it is dns (name resolution) or some firewall/routing issue
01:47<rob_debian>yahoo.com - unable to connect
01:47<rob_debian>why ?
01:47<somiaj>I don't know why, ping yahoo.com, does it return an ip address?
01:47<jm_>PID 966 was from the person trying to use userdel earlier
01:47<rob_debian>and several other sites, by the way, I can't update my sources.list
01:47<rown>any shortcut keys to go to desktop directly
01:48<rob_debian>let me try it here, somiaj, just one moment, please
01:48<rob_debian>From 170.83.39.197 (170.83.39.197) icmp_seq=5 Destination Net Unreachable
01:48<jm_>how does your routing table look?
01:49<rob_debian>but, see what happens to google: 64 bytes from gru06s28-in-f228.1e100.net (172.217.29.228): icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=11.7 ms
01:49<rob_debian>jm_, please, how do I check it ?
01:49<jm_>rob_debian: netstat -nr
01:49<jm_>or route -n
01:50<ach>so you say a double nic
01:50<rob_debian>sorry, but I cant't open 'paste debian' to show you properly: root@debian:~# netstat -nr
01:50<rob_debian>Kernel IP routing table
01:50<rob_debian>Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
01:50<rob_debian>0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlp6s0
01:50<rob_debian>169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 wlp6s0
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01:51<rob_debian>sorry
01:51<rown>where is annadane?
01:51<jm_>rob_debian: don't paste the command, and the first two lines, paste the rest slowly, line by line
01:51<somiaj>rob_debian: you've been here long enough to know to use a pastebin.
01:51<rob_debian>I know I can't put several lines here, but I didn't have any other option
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01:52<rob_debian>ok jm_, thanks a lot. somiaj, if you can't help me, please, don't disturb me, for I have issues here and that's why it has happened
01:52<rob_debian>surely I know how to use pastebin
01:52<ach>ip link set wlp6s0 down
01:53<rob_debian>jm_ please, how to fix this issue I've shown you ?
01:53<ach>ip link set wlp6s0 up
01:53<jm_>rob_debian: I need to see your entire routing table
01:53<ach>so hopefully it flushes
01:53<somiaj>rob_debian: use a channel like #flood (though unsure what is best on oftc.net) for this.
01:54<ach>dhclient wlp6s0
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01:54<rob_debian>somiaj, you should be attempt to help others, please, forget about my issues, ok ?
01:54<rob_debian>jm_ do you refer to netstat -nr output ?
01:55<jm_>rob_debian: yes, just msg me the lines after the "Destination Gateway..." line
01:55<ach>route del -F u
01:55<rob_debian>0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlp6s0
01:55<rob_debian>169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 wlp6s0
01:56<rown>how can i play pubg in debian
01:56<rob_debian>192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlp6s0
01:56<ach>ok
01:56<rob_debian>these are the lines, jm_
01:56<rob_debian>thanks for attention and support :)
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01:57<somiaj>rob_debian: I am helping by, and jm_ said you can msg them the info so you aren't flooding the channel.
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01:57<rob_debian>somiaj, you should help me better if not answered me anymore, please
01:57<jm_>rob_debian: that looks fine to me, you would need to inspect what's going on on your router
01:58<rob_debian>that's a wireless router, jm_
01:58<rob_debian>do you think it's causing such network traffic issues ?
01:59<rob_debian>I powered it off and powered it on but problem persisted
01:59<jm_>rob_debian: you could try traceroute or tcptraceroute to see what happens
01:59<rob_debian>ok, jm_, just one moment please, and thanks again for great support !
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02:00<rob_debian>it requires specific arguments to use them
02:00<ach>!trace
02:00<rob_debian>really don't know how to fix it through them
02:00<jm_>yeah use the same arguments you used with ping
02:01<rob_debian>ok, so for example: 'traceroute www.yahoo.com' for example ?
02:01<jm_>yes
02:02<rob_debian>ok, output for 'traceroute www.yahoo.com' is: 1 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 11.716 ms 15.571 ms 23.559 ms
02:02<rob_debian>2 10.85.99.244 (10.85.99.244) 24.866 ms 26.760 ms 26.771 ms
02:02<rob_debian>3 170.83.39.197 (170.83.39.197) 26.758 ms !N 26.746 ms !N 26.734 ms !N
02:04<jm_>I assume that's not your ISP?
02:05<rob_debian>ISP ?
02:05<jm_>!isp
02:05<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, isp is (Internet Service Provider) An ISP provides Internet access to people or corporations. ISPs generally have pools of modems awaiting dial-up connections. Smaller ISPs buy bandwidth from larger ISPs. There are two basic ways of connecting: one is to get a PPP or Slip account; the other is to get a UNIX shell account.
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02:05<rob_debian>yes, that's my ISP
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02:05<rown>what is the best emulator to run pubg on debian
02:06<rob_debian>that's my own ISP here, jm_, that's why I can't understand what is happening... so, is that possible there is any issue related to my Internet Service Provider, the company that provides me networking traffic ?
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02:07<jm_>170.83.39.197 is your ISP? so if google works, compare traceroute for it
02:08<rob_debian>so, 'traceroute google.com' ?
02:08<jm_>yes
02:08<rob_debian>ok
02:09<rob_debian>now, it was displayed 7 lines for 'traceroute www.google.com' and the the 3rd line is exactly the same:
02:09<rob_debian>3 170.83.39.197 (170.83.39.197) 10.282 ms 10.272 ms 10.261 ms
02:09<somiaj>rown: for window apps, wine (which is not an emulator) is often the best approach. Appears this game doesn't have support in wine, https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=18270, so there really isn't a good way I see to run it in linux.
02:10<jm_>it's not nearly the same, !N means network unreachable, so there seems to be some issues there
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02:10<rob_debian>oh !, I see, jm_
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02:10<rown>why the clock disappears from my sfce panel when i set the time zone and time format
02:10<rown>xfce*
02:11<rob_debian>please, jm_, when you say there seems to be some issues there, do you refer to my ISP ?
02:11<rob_debian>and not my OS here ?
02:11<jm_>rob_debian: yes
02:11<rob_debian>for, I can communicate to you through irc now
02:11<jm_>yeah it obviously works for some traffic
02:12<rob_debian>so, something that can't be fixed for me here, jm_, not now
02:12<jm_>rob_debian: looks like so yes
02:13<rob_debian>I can open youtube page, for example, but not yahoo.com
02:13<somiaj>rown: and you can get the clock back by adding it back to the pannel, but it doens't have any of your changes?
02:13<rob_debian>that's exactly what you said
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02:14<rob_debian>jm_ thanks a lot for your patience and great support in such difficult moment I'm suffering here !
02:14<jm_>rob_debian: no worries
02:14<rob_debian>I'll try to use other ISP now while my own ISP doesn't work properly. Really thank you very much, jm_ :)
02:14<rob_debian>see you !
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02:15<rown>somiaj,yes it doesnt save the changes
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02:15<somiaj>wonder if there is some issue with the config you are choosing causing the pannel app to crash and thus not save its config.
02:16<somiaj>I don't really know much more than that.
02:16<somiaj>does this happen no matter what you change in the config, try something simple, like say just 24 to 12 hour or something like that.
02:17<rown>yes after hitting close
02:17<somiaj>are there any other buttons besides close, almost sounds like you are closing the app.
02:18<rown>no there are no any buttons
02:19<rown>ok thanks i got the solution.Leave it without hitting close just save the session and logout and login again the clock will set itself
02:20<somiaj>hmm, I notice the same bug in my vm, seems the clock doesn't die, it just defaults to a formatting of nothing.
02:20<rown>which virtual machine do you sue
02:20<rown>use
02:21<somiaj>I use libvirt to manage qemu-kvm vms
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02:40<rown>hey guys iam not able to use tab to auto complete the typing in debian how to enable it
02:40<EmleyMoor>I just put an SD card in the card slot on this machine, the light came on, but nothing is happening. Is it likely that something has stopped? It usually works just fine. By "nothing is happening" I mean nothing in dmesg and no sign of it mounting
02:42<EmleyMoor>Ah, no - faulty adapter
02:43<somiaj>EmleyMoor: can you find the chipset of the adapater and see if the module is loaded for it?
02:43<EmleyMoor>somiaj: No, turns out not a problem of that nature
02:43<somiaj>rown: it should be enabled by default, but you can override it if you use your own .bashrc and .bash_profile
02:43<rown>how to do so smoiaj
02:44<ach>!bashrc
02:44<dpkg>~/.bashrc is where you put all your aliases and functions. It's read at start-up time by all interactive non-login shells. To make sure it's read by a login shell, put "source ~/.bashrc" at the end of ~/.bash_profile, or just remove the comment that is placed before the already typed include line that Debian's ~/.bash_profile has by default. Ask me about <bash eternal history>.
02:44<somiaj>rown: check /etc/skel/.bashrc for the default rc file and the info in it to enable tab completion with bash
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02:45<rown>how to enable tab i see no any codes
02:46<rown># ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
02:46<rown># see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files (in the package bash-doc)
02:46<rown># for examples
02:46<rown># If not running interactively, don't do anything
02:46<rown>case $- in
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02:47<somiaj>rown: please use a pastebin like paste.debian.net for pasting multiple lines
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02:48<rown>somiaj: waht is pastebin?
02:49<ach>https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-add-bash-completion-in-debian
02:49<somiaj>rown: I gave you an url for one, but anyways, if you look in the default .bashrc file you will see a comment block 'enable programable completion features', and it should have the info you need there.
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05:45<TotallyNotKim>ayyy, so when packaging a deb.. I have a folder with my compiled files, where should I put it? I'm sure you link the main binary to /usr/bin, but where should the whole folder go?
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05:46<annadane>are you packing for debian? try #debian-mentors, if you're just packing for yourself, try #packaging
05:46<TotallyNotKim>for a private repo
05:47<petn-randall>TotallyNotKim: You should be making a source package that builds your binary package. If you're using the tools to build the binary packages by hand, you're going to have a hard time.
05:47<TotallyNotKim>but thansk
05:47<annadane>damnit. foiled again.
05:47<petn-randall>Then it would be #packaging.
05:47<TotallyNotKim>petn-randall: well, it's .net core stuff, build by gitlab CI
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05:48<TotallyNotKim>it comes with a main binary and tons of more stuff
05:48<TotallyNotKim>about 500ish files
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05:48<petn-randall>TotallyNotKim: The usual approach is to make a source package that builds the binary files, and then wraps it in a .deb.
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06:47<Rockj>Q: I've usually used this for fetching latest netinstall for debian ( https://gist.github.com/norrs/a1e911b312d0ae5ac1ad26b57d7edf7f ) , but even tho I download the firmware-nonfree it doesn't seem to detect my SSD m2 Samsung 970 disk drive during installation. I also tried fetching debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso which finds the disk drive, but not the NIC and also it says it boots up a kernel
06:47<Rockj>without LVM support.. is it supposed to be this hard to just get the installer to just work and detect hardware? :/
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06:48<rown>can i change my debian gnome to xfce without install the another debian xfce installer?
06:48<annadane>rown, yes
06:48<rown>how
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06:49<annadane>rown, but you don't have to remove gnome, you can use both if you want
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06:49<rown>will the resources consumption will be less if u will login with xfce?
06:49<rown>I*
06:49<annadane>a little bit, i think
06:49<annadane>xfce is a bit more lightweight
06:49<rown>Like How much?
06:49<annadane>unsure
06:50<rown>tell me the procedure then how to do so
06:50<annadane>to install xfce, or to remove gnome?
06:50<annadane>(or both i guess)
06:50<rown>to install xfce and remove gnome
06:50<rown>yes
06:50<annadane>well, i'm not entirely sure how to remove all the gnome components; someone else can probably answer that. for xfce you can just apt install xfce4
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06:51<Rockj>https://packages.debian.org/stretch/task-xfce-desktop - is the recommended package if you just want it to autoconfigure the whole xfce4 environment I belive.
06:51<annadane>i think you may be able to just apt remove task-gnome-desktop && apt autoremove, but it will remove some programs you may wan
06:51<annadane>t
06:51<rown>and if i unlike it can i remove it apt remove xfce4.Will it remove xfce completely?
06:51<annadane>essentially.
06:52<annadane>also, task- packages are what the installer installs. meaning, you get the desktop but a bunch of other programs as well
06:52<rown>How to switch between xfce and gnome ig i have both installed?
06:52<annadane>if you installed gnome via the installer it would be task-gnome-desktop
06:52<rown>if*
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06:52<annadane>you can switch by going down to the drop-down menu in the window manager that starts on boot
06:52<annadane>not sure where specifically it is for gdm
06:53<Rockj>https://wiki.debian.org/DisplayManager
06:53<annadane>sorry yes display manager
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06:53<EmleyMoor>I know it's difficult as this isn't exactly on topic... I have an account on which google-chrome-stable fails to start once it has synced with my Google account - but it works fine on my laptop and a test account.
06:53<Rockj>Should be a drop down somewhere in the UI where it allows you to select the different environments.
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06:54<Rockj>EmleyMoor: ~/.cache/google-chrome , could maybe move that out and start from a scratch state? See if chrome works better then.
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06:54<EmleyMoor>It must be *something* in my main account on the affected machine - but how could I track down what? Enquiries with Google aren't helping
06:55<EmleyMoor>Rockj: As soon as it's synced to my Google account again, it's as bad again
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06:55<EmleyMoor>This is complex, not simple
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06:56<Gaijin>hi how to install chrome in antix linux?
06:56<rown>Hey,Why it's showing thath only 34.7 mb will be occupied if i install xfce??as per my knowledge xfce is not that small
06:56<EmleyMoor>!antix
06:56<dpkg>antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. http://antix.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
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06:57<EmleyMoor>rown: Over and above what you've already got?
06:57<Rockj>EmleyMoor: tried reinstalling the google-chrome-stable package? Or even try one of the other branches which is not stable?
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06:58<EmleyMoor>Rockj: Reinstalled it several times and its entire dependency tree. Not tried another branch yet but may well
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07:07<EmleyMoor>Looks like the same story with google-chrome-beta
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07:18<Anarka>does in happen in private mode ?
07:19<EmleyMoor>SIIN
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07:23<EmleyMoor>Anarka: How do I reach private mode?
07:23<EmleyMoor>(do you mean incognito?)
07:23<Anarka>8yep
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07:25<EmleyMoor>Anarka: Do you mean "can I start in incognito mode after it's broken?"
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07:26<jm_>Rockj: I use stretch with bpo kernel with samsung evo 960 m2 drive (it was an old installation which I just copied to the drive)
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07:31<EmleyMoor>Getting any help out of Google for this is proving to be a ballache
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07:34<jm_>EmleyMoor: you said fails to start, so I assume you exited it first - have you checked if there are any stale processes left?
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07:35<EmleyMoor>jm_: When started, it starts processes, but no window appears. I always check they're not there before trying again (in consequence)
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07:40<Anarka>google-chrome-blabla --incognito
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07:44<EmleyMoor>Anarka: Yes, but do you mean "Does it start in incognito mode when it won't otherwise?"
07:44<EmleyMoor>(If so, the answer seems to be no)
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07:50<k-man>i installed debian on this Dell Inspiron 3000 i have, and i and its been randomly locking up. then i noticed the firmware blobs weren't installed. could that be the cause of random lockups?
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07:53<annadane>k-man, well first it depends on the type of firmware but generally my experience is it's not due to missing firmware
07:53<annadane>what is your video card
07:53<annadane>and what desktop are you running
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08:02<k-man>annadane, well, this ws on debian stretch, gnome deskto. I just updated it to buster and still it hangs randomly. ( i know buster is off topic here)
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08:04<annadane>what you can see first of all is see what dmesg | grep -i firmware says, apt-file search the file names that crop up, and see if they're part of anything graphical
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08:04<k-man>and video controller is intel I think: Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
08:04<annadane>dmesg | grep -i firmware should be done as root
08:05<k-man>since then i have now added all the firmware. before it was not loading iwlwifi
08:05<k-man>and also needed the new microcode for Spectre mitigation
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08:05<k-man>it has not hung yet - but that doesn't mean much
08:05<k-man>rebooting, brb
08:06<annadane>k-man, and did you check the usual suspects, .xsession-errors, /var/log/syslog etc
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08:10<k-man>i checked syslog and dmesg
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08:10<k-man>I didn't think to check xsession-errors
08:11<annadane>i guess it's probably .xsession-errors.old by now
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08:11<k-man>when it hung before, video and keybard did not respond at all. even capslock didn't work, but the power button suspend
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08:12<k-man>the power button did suspend and resume. but when resumed the system was still hung
08:13<k-man>and then it wouldn't even suspend any more
08:13<k-man>not that that means much
08:13<k-man>i have no .xsession-errors at file at all
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08:19<annadane>well sorry i don't know :(
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08:28<k-man>annadane, no worries
08:28<k-man>i'll just use it for a while and see if it hangs again
08:28<k-man>i also updated the bios
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08:34<k-man>oh well, that didn't work. it hung again
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08:45<iflema>k-man: have yoi tried another OS? Is this laptop?
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08:46<iflema>tower? maybe check sata cables and reseat video card
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08:50<k-man>iflema, laptop, it did have win10 on it but hadn't been used in a while
08:50<k-man>i may have to put win10 on it again and test if that hangs
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08:54<iflema>k-man: another live linux even save some time.... whatever
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08:54<iflema>k-man: it maybe hardware
08:55<iflema>fans?
08:56<iflema>random freeze? or same time between?
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08:58<k-man>iflema, random, i kind of feel like its graphics realted. like when i'm switching windows or press the volume key and gnome pops up the speaker overlay icon
08:58<k-man>good idea re another live distro
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08:59<iflema>k-man: if you try another live linux try another spin like kde or something also
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09:00<iflema>or another distro
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09:03<k-man>heh ok
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09:05<iflema>greping dmesg for words like error, critical or warning in both upper and lower case may provide some clues
09:06<annadane>in other words with -i
09:06<petn-randall>:)
09:06<iflema>tell them -u
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09:46<jhutchins>rno: irc includes the direct message feature. By using irc, you inherently consent to allow direct messages. Deal.
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09:48<bremner>jhutchins: that's not really the convention on oftc and freenode
09:48<bremner>PMs from strangers -> /ignore
09:49<bremner>also, people asking for help really need to talk to the channel.
09:49<bremner>PPS, he left ;)
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09:50<EmleyMoor>Is there any routine cleaning up of my home directory that runs even a minute chance of fixing Chrome for me?
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10:20<rolf>I'm (as linux newbie) curious about what major security features (like fulldiskencryption, mandatory access control, stack-smashing protection, position-independent executables, effective sandboxing, solid code, and the like) Debian provides out of the box and what can be added reasonably easy on top of that?
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10:24<sdk>rolf: full disk encryption is pretty easy. You can do it during the installation by simply selecting it in a list of choice.
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10:26<sdk>There's also a bunch of people working to include AppAmor out-of-the-box. But it isn't ready yet. It would probably be when Buster will become the stable version.
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10:31<arto>AppArmor can be installed after installation, so SElinux, and many others
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10:33<sdk>arto: Of course, but it needs configuration at the moment and s/he said is a linux newbie.
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10:48<rolf>Thanks for the help thus far. Configuration is a bit of a problem, I guess (though that might be quite a bit worse with SElinux, that seems to require way more configuration).
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10:50<rolf>Does Debians full disk encryption work with dual boot (I'm not a fan of dual booting, anyway, but its good to know) or is it somewhat problematic?
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10:51<arto>works fine
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10:53<user>hello
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10:54<Guest814>Hello!
10:54<annadane>hello
10:55<Guest814>are we political in here?
10:55<grove>When using full disk encryption I would assume other os'es had quite a hard time reading the disk
10:55<grove>Guest814: No
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10:55<annadane>not particularly? this is a channel for debian support
10:55<bremner>dpkg: tell Guest814 about chat
10:55<arto>grove: but as such does not include to dual boot
10:56<Guest814>ah ok
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10:56<arto>and would that be the idea in encryption, that it is hard to read without proper permisssions
10:57<Guest814>in that case why doesn't my sound work with Parrot?
10:57<grove>arto: Correct, but I assume wanting to run other os'es is stil the reason to dual boot in the majority of cases
10:57<grove>!parrot
10:57<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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10:57<Guest814>ok thanks
10:57<arto>grove: yes, but no one talked how acces crypted partitition
10:58<Guest814>have a good day everyone
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10:58<dragon12>should I get rid of TLSv1.1 in nginx conf?
10:59<duclicsic>that info for Parrot really needs an update, the irc server and mailing list no longer exist in those locations.
10:59<grove>arto: Correct - I just guessed and provided a comment that might be valuable to people reading the discussion in the logs later
10:59<annadane>well tell me where stuff is and i'll fix it
10:59<annadane>i'm too lazy to research
10:59<arto>grove: good point, and good to know
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10:59<duclicsic>i don't know where they are, i just know that info is wrong
10:59<annadane>bleh fine
11:00<grove>duclicsic: I tried but I couldn't figure out how to change dpkg's factoids
11:00<grove>(and that being hard might be a good thing)
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11:01<jhutchins_wk>duclicsic: Do you have updated info for parrot?
11:01<annadane>i found their forums i just need the irc chan
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11:02<annadane>_and_ the mailing list is wrong
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11:04<grove>That factoid being out of date has been mentioned before, on a previous occasion someone mentioned a new location, but I can't remember
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11:28<rodan>can i have presentation mode in debian gnome as like xubuntu so that while presentation my screen doesn't go off
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11:35<arto>rodan: I don't use gnome, put propably there are settings where it's adjusted how quicky display will go to power save mode
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11:44<jhutchins_wk>rodan: Isn't xubuntu xfce?
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11:46<rodan>yes i know xubuntu is xfce so iam asking is there any way to get that same feature without knocking out the power manager setting for display
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11:49<rodan>annadane are you there?
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11:49<arto>he left sometime ago
11:50<arto>and annadane uses xfce too
11:51<arto>rodan: have you googled gnome presentation mode?
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11:51<rodan>theres some problem with xfce it looks old and even there are some problems with xfce panels
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11:51<rodan>yes offcource
11:52<rodan>gnome has extensions to do these things
11:52<arto>I have xfce, and there you can just click presentation mode on
11:52<rodan>ok iam leaving now tell annadane i was asking for him .bye
11:53<arto>i'm no post box
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11:53<rolf>Thanks for the provided help. Good night.
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11:59<arto>Good night rolf!
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12:06<rodan>arto i searched google and i found the browser install is not letting me install the extension and for manually iam not finding any location path for .local/share/gnome-shell
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12:10<student>Уле
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12:11<arto>if there is not .local/share/gnome-shell, you can create it
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12:13<arto>mkdir .local/share/gnome-shell
12:13<arto>or if it is a file, then nano .local/share/gnome-shell
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12:15<rodan>yes i have kept that extension folder with other extensions but my gnome version is not accepting that extension
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13:26<rown>why homgren is joining and quitting?
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13:28<retrospectacus>type /ignore holmgren
13:28<rown>okay
13:29<rown>how is it hard to install debian in rasperry pie?
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13:30<rodan>google it bro there will be lot of alternatives even if doesn't work
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13:30<arto>I think the best disto for pi is rasbian
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13:30<arto>yes, you can even install windows to pi
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13:31<jhutchins_wk>Pure Debian can be done.
13:31<rown>how?
13:31<arto>but as such, getting offtopic, I don't know if anyone has installed debian
13:31<retrospectacus>it can but you will have problems; these problems are solved by raspbian
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13:31<retrospectacus>!raspbian
13:31<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
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13:31<rodan>rown,offtopic are not allowed bro
13:32<jhutchins_wk>rodan: How is installing Debian off-topic?
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13:33<rown>iam getting your ips like this is from canada? where are you guus from actually becausr its here midnight at my place
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13:33<retrospectacus>rown: that is off topic
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13:34<rodan>iam just saying offtopic are not allowed guys .iam not telling installing debian is off topic
13:34<jhutchins_wk>!pi
13:34<dpkg>The Raspberry Pi is an open hardware design based on a Broadcom system-on-a-chip, requiring <non-free> <firmware>. Debian's <armel> port works fine, but does not use the Pi's hardware floating point unit. Debian's <armhf> port targets a newer revision of the ARM chip than is in the Pi, so armhf will not work on it. http://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi http://www.raspberrypi.org/ #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net.
13:35<rown>debian is great. it is future and present.but cant compete with windows btw lol
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13:36<jhutchins_wk>It doesn't compete, it compliments.
13:36<grove>rown: Not only can Debian compete with windows, I can guarantee you that it wins in quite a few cases
13:36<rodan>debian is great at some aspects and windows is at other u don't need to compare dude.and who is this holmgren guys he is disturbing alot
13:37<rown>ok lol i was jst kidding
13:37<retrospectacus>Type /ignore holmgren as I said
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13:38<arto>which holgren? Oh I have install plugin to irssi, which ignores automatically those kind of trolls
13:38<rown>are you guys sitting in the same office or you guys are operating from you home pcs
13:39<retrospectacus>rown: go to #debian-offtopic for that kind of question
13:39<rodan>holmgren joins ...holmgren quits he is doing alot
13:39<EmleyMoor>Revolving door
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13:39<retrospectacus>he has been for days. Ignore him
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13:40<rown>are u sure there is debian -offtopic
13:40<retrospectacus>yes
13:41<rodan>is holmgren a bot or something because its kinda boring to repeat these stuffs
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13:42<retrospectacus>you sure are good at writing things and reading nothing
13:43<rodan>yes dude.iam having this bad habit and dont know how to get rid of this.help me if u can
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13:44<retrospectacus>I can't, but I can put you on the same list as holmgren. My ignore list
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13:44<rodan>sorry dude.I was literraly honestly asking
13:45<rown>rodan,i think u should also go to debian-offtopic lol
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13:45<arto>rodan, if it still that gnome presentation, I found: https://github.com/h2akim/Gnome-Presentation-Mode
13:46<rodan>thanks arto let me check in
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13:53<rodan>arto,it didn't work there is no presentation mode coming at top panel
13:54<arto>rodan: that page had clear instructions. What version of gnome are you running?
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13:59<rodan>how to check the gnome version bro
14:00<arto>I'm still not your bro. aptitude show gnome
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14:02<rodan>i just did gnome-shell --version it showed me only version
14:02<rodan>its 3.22.3 so wont work.any other solution?
14:02<rown>why arto is being so rude🙄
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14:05<arto>and that github presentation mode was for gnome 3.2 It should work if you follow the instructions.
14:05<bremner>rown: people expect you to talk like a grown-up here. You will get better responses if you do.
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14:06<rown>what is your age rodan?
14:06<arto>rown: we are supposed to talk only debian support here
14:06<rodan>offtopic dude i cant
14:06-!-mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ
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14:07<jelly>huh, where is debchange
14:07<rown>hey,its asking me for some registration in debian-offtopic
14:08<arto>rodan, you learnd quicky :)
14:08<arto>offtopic, ofcourse
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14:10<arto>rodan: the page says: ' Gnome-Presentation-Mode is a tiny gnome-shell extension that adds a new
14:10<arto>entry to the power indicator (the menu that opens when you click the
14:10<arto>battery icon).'
14:10<arto>rodan: Gnome-Presentation-Mode is a tiny gnome-shell extension that adds a new
14:10<arto>entry to the power indicator (the menu that opens when you click the
14:10<arto>battery icon).
14:10<arto>rodan:Gnome-Presentation-Mode is a tiny gnome-shell extension that adds a new
14:10<arto>entry to the power indicator (the menu that opens when you click the
14:11<rodan__>ok let me check in
14:11<arto>rodan: Gnome-Presentation-Mode is a tiny gnome-shell extension that adds a new
14:11<arto>entry to the power indicator (the menu that opens when you click the
14:11<arto>battery icon).
14:11<jelly>rown: sorry. The offtopic channel requires NickServ identification because of recent spam. If you're going to be a regular on this irc network it's a good idea to register your nick so noone else can impersonate you
14:12<arto>rodan: extension that adds a new
14:12<arto>entry to the power indicator (the menu that opens when you click the
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14:12<arto>Gnome-Presentation-Mode is a tiny gnome-shell extension that adds a new
14:12<jelly>arto: use a pastebin dude
14:12-!-mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ
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14:13-!-mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ
14:13-!-arto was kicked from #debian by jelly [much paste about nothing]
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14:13<rodan__>i too want to register my nickname arto
14:13*bremner didn't see a paste
14:13<bremner>oh, now I do
14:13<retrospectacus>rodan__: type /msg nickserv help
14:14<grove>Type "/msg ChanServ help identify" to have NickServ tell you more about identifying
14:14<jelly>that'd be /msg NickServ help identify
14:14*GyrosGeier usually uses /quote NickServ
14:14<jelly>and they need "/msg NickServ help register" before that
14:14<grove>Yes, I was just about to write that retrospectacus was more right than me
14:14<grove>Just couldn't type fast enough
14:15<rodan__>still no presentation mode arto
14:15<jelly>GyrosGeier: pretty much the same thing, except /quote might open and focus a window to talk with just that bot?
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14:15<GyrosGeier>on OFTC and Freenode it doesn't matter, but on other networks, the name "NickServ" might not be protected, so nefarious people could hijack it during a netsplit
14:15<GyrosGeier>jelly, no, it sends "NickServ IDENTIFY …" as a server command
14:16<rown2>identify
14:16<GyrosGeier>which either causes an error or works
14:16<rown2>IDENTIFY
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14:16<GyrosGeier>but never leaks your password to evil people
14:16<jelly>oh, sorry, I probably thought of /query
14:17*GyrosGeier .oO( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN19oHTv_Vg )
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14:29<rodan>hey i have registered my nick names but it has registered with two underscores how to rename the registered nicknames
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14:30<bremner>rodan: #oftc can help you with registration
14:31<rodan>ok thanks dude
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14:32<sarnold>use /nick to change your nickname to whatever it is you want to register before the /msg nickserv register command
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14:35<GyrosGeier>you can also link nicknames
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14:35<GyrosGeier>to combine two registrations
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14:39<rodan>nick rodan
14:40<rodan>NICK rodan
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14:53<rodan>hey guys it is showing my account is not registered and verify set +r something like that but i have already verified it as per my knowledge
14:55<retrospectacus>say to nickserv: identify <your password>
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14:57<rodan>/msg nickserv identify AiYpWzQp
14:57<retrospectacus>Wolololol
14:58*Wolololol cheers
14:58<retrospectacus>this guy gets it
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15:04<rodan>already changed it dude
15:04<rodan>what gets it??
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15:06<retrospectacus>rodan: you are still not identified
15:06<rodan>i dont know dude how to get it
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15:07<retrospectacus>you have everything you need. Ask in #oftc if you still can't figure it out
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15:39<rown2>hey how to delete the oftc irc account
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15:43<retrospectacus>rown2: Ask in #oftc
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16:16<cowcat>does anyone know why Debian doesn't work well on modern Laptops/desktops.
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16:17<secross32>What's a good channel for discussing diskless booting, aoe-discover never gets executed in initramfs
16:18<retrospectacus>cowcat: it works great. If you are having a problem, be more specific
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16:41<emMode>I forgot the Root password for my debian 8 server, what are my options?
16:42<emMode>I found tutorials on things that I can attempt in Emergency Mode, but I am unsure how to get the system into emergency mode
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16:46<retrospectacus>!ifrp
16:46<dpkg>For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
16:47<retrospectacus>emMode: ^
16:49<Linked>ifrp = I forgot root password ?
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16:49<retrospectacus>yerp
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16:50<emMode>retrospectacus: brings me to the login screen every time
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16:50<retrospectacus>you need to be quick on that e key on step 1
16:51<emMode>Yeah so I get there, I put in init=/bin/sh at the bottom
16:51<emMode>hit Ctrl+x
16:51<retrospectacus>the "init" needs to be on the end of the existing line, not at the bottom
16:52<retrospectacus>the line that starts with "kernel" iirc
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17:11<emMode>retrospectacus: I got it working, Thanks!
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18:16<milad>how are you ?
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19:35<mnuhmnuh>i manage my wired (only) conn. via interfaces file. i've removed network-manager and -gnome. can i "systemctl disable NetworkManager.service" and ModemManager.service?
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19:37<Brigo>mnuhmnuh, if you don't like them
19:39<mnuhmnuh>they're just spurious error messages re: stuff that's not even installed. i know i can just re-enable them if i'm shooting at my foot, but hoped not too painfully.
19:39<mnuhmnuh>i don't grok much systemd yet.
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20:37<mnuhmnuh>still not gone, also need to disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service apparently.
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20:37<mnuhmnuh>hasn't broken anything yet. :-)
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20:54<mnuhmnuh>nope, no joy. all three set to disabled, and systemd's still chatty about them. ah well.
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21:04<hylidae>Hello all, I am wondering why I'm getting these failed services in systemd: http://paste.debian.net/1033177/
21:04<hylidae>I don't have a user with a UID of 120 on my machine...
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21:15<mnuhmnuh>hylidae: are you in a multi-user environment (work, wifi @ coffee shop, ...)?
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21:17<hylidae>nope personal computer at home
21:18<hylidae>hm.. I'm actually on testing, would it be better to ask debian-next?
21:21<mnuhmnuh>mount wrapper? i'd research that first. is your box being asked to allow _something_ network mount privs, or is it trying to do same itself? perhaps connect to your isp's ldap server, or ...?
21:21<mnuhmnuh>yes, batter there.
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21:22<hylidae>thans mnuhmnuh
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21:22<mnuhmnuh>np.
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