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01:26<heini>Hi, what are the state of the art tools to create repositories?
01:27<heini>Should I be using reprepro or is it better to use apt-ftparchive? Maybe there is a 3rd or 4th way that should be used?!
01:29<jm_>!own repo
01:29<dpkg>To feed your own packages into apt, you need to create a repository with a Packages file that lists the packages. If you only have a few packages and don't have very sophisticated requirements, you can use <dpkg-scanpackages>. If you want to be able add/remove packages using regular Debian tools like dput then try <reprepro> or mini-dinstall. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository
01:29<jm_>see if that helps
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01:36<heini>https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git#Accessing_repositories where do i find the debian git repositories?
01:36<heini>the information on that page is outdated
01:38<jm_>salsa.debian.org
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01:42<heini> 502
01:42<heini>Whoops, GitLab is taking too much time to respond.
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01:42<heini>i really understand that people do not want to rely on github
01:44<heini>But maybe if the code was put into gitlab and mirrored to github that would be better than having a dysfunctional salsa.
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02:35<desert>is there a package that i can install that will let me run a terminal command to check all the file names in a folder and remove any chars i don't want in the names?
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02:44<jm_>desert: several
02:45<desert>jm_: i'll take any of them, as long as i don't have to dance a jig while typing out binary
02:46<jm_>desert: I use prename, there's mmv gprename krename mrename pyrenamer etc.
02:47<desert>jm_: ok, thanks
02:47<jm_>no worries
02:48<jm_>I shall switch to file-rename I guess
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03:11<T-ware>hi everybody
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03:26<T-ware>help
03:26<Anarka>!ask
03:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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03:29<T-ware>how can install best driver wi-fi
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03:33<grove>!best
03:33<dpkg>Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
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03:34<grove>!wifi
03:34<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
03:36<Anarka>lol at !best :p
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04:54<arto>furrymcgee: debian has closed ftp.debian.org
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04:59<furrymcgee>rip
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05:05<petn-randall>To be fair, FTP is pretty inefficient compares to HTTP. And because if was hardly used, it was turned off.
05:05<drzacek>Hwat are the ftp alternatives?
05:06<drzacek>I don't mean the debian repos, only for the file transfers etc in general?
05:06<arto>drzacek: none
05:07<arto>drzacek: you can use ftp if you want
05:07<drzacek>well, yeah, but I heard that it is not state of the art anymore in 2018
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05:07<drzacek>I'm using ftp currently to connect to a remote machine and update the files there
05:08<arto>drzacek: thats true, it's up to you, I use only ssh for file transfers
05:08<drzacek>I use scp sometimes too. Is there some gui filemanager-like program for scp transfers?
05:09<arto>drzacek: might be, I dont know, but I think cli usage is quite straight forward
05:09<drzacek>I need to provide solution to unskilled users
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05:10<arto>drzacek: you could write bash scripts, and make gui applet to launch
05:10<drzacek>ok, googled something out, seems there are programs for just that
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05:12<furrymcgee>what makes ftp ineffecient?
05:14<arto>drzacek: check if they are availabel in debian repos, I could not find any using duckduckgo
05:14<drzacek>wine + winscp
05:14<sep>furrymcgee, there is a good explanation at https://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie ; but basicaly due to a shotload of roundtrips per file
05:15<arto>drzacek: yea, winscp, but to only transfer files wine?
05:15<Anarka>most filemanagers support scp, maybe just add a bookmark
05:15<drzacek>arto, I use wine for other stuff too
05:16<arto>drzacek: ok, I don't judge what you are doing
05:16<drzacek>but I need to grant access to my systems for peoples who are working on windows
05:16<drzacek>so I can aswell install same program they will use
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05:17<drzacek>arto, seems like jugding to me :D
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05:17<arto>drzacek: sorry, it was not intentional (;
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05:17<drzacek>nah it's okay
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05:18<arto>drzacek: you need samba or cifs
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05:21<petn-randall>arto: None? Have you heard of sftp yet?
05:21<sep>drzacek, if you use ftp... everyone judges you, it is inevitable
05:21<sep>:)
05:23<drzacek>sep, Didn't found anything else that ftp server for my dos systems
05:24<furrymcgee>sep: please, i dont agree with everything on this wiki. do you have a different link for that statement?
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05:25<petn-randall>furrymcgee: FTP takes many more round trips than HTTP, encryption is not widely supported, it automagically mangles data, etc.
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05:26<drzacek>looks like filezilla works fine with ssh AND is in debian repo
05:26<themill>,i filezilla
05:26<judd>Package filezilla (net, optional) in stretch/amd64: Full-featured graphical FTP/FTPS/SFTP client. Version: 3.24.0-1; Size: 1664.2k; Installed: 6343k; Homepage: https://filezilla-project.org/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/filezilla
05:26<themill>and also works on other operating systems
05:27<drzacek>then it's settled
05:27<drzacek>we all install filezilla
05:27<sep>drzacek, http://sshdos.sourceforge.net/
05:28<drzacek>isit opensource?
05:28<arto>petn-randall: yes I was away for a while, referring to samba was just bull, when we just talked about ssh
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05:28<sep>drzacek, yes
05:28<drzacek>looks nice but it's too late for that
05:28<drzacek>we are migrating from dos to linux anyway
05:28<sep>drzacek, probaby saner :)
05:29<drzacek>wasn't easy
05:29<drzacek>after 2 years still not ready
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05:38<dpkg>hmm... irl is In Real Life, and a really good way to piss off your SO.
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06:17<coolio>Is there a way to force apt to prompt for installs from non-free/contrib? I want microcode but also to avoid anything else there.
06:19<arto>coolio: there is package vrms, virtual Richard Stallman, which show's how mucn non-free you have installed
06:20<arto>coolio: you could install microcode, then remove non-free from sources
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06:21<jm_>I don't think there's a per section prompt
06:21<coolio>arto: Yeah that make sense, cheers.
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06:23<annadane>i'm sure one could write an apt hook for it but understanding those is a bit advanced
06:23<annadane>coolio, apt show <package> will tell you if it's in non-free or not
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06:24<annadane>(and a free package will never have non-free dependencies)
06:24<arto>annadane: to avoid, most efficient is to disable source
06:25<jm_>looks like apt can pin based on component (section), that might also help, but I'd just go with the proposed method of removing it from sources
06:26<iflema>comment with a note even
06:26<arto>iflema: effectively that is same as remove
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06:26<iflema>arto: but no way t forget...
06:27<arto>iflema: yea, but debian repos are not very secret anyways
06:27<iflema>wat
06:28<arto>iflema: propably man apt would show non-free, net search for sure
06:28<arto>iflema: in case you forget
06:29<coolio>Would microcode get readded on kernel update if the source is removed?
06:29<jm_>no, it needs an entry in sources.list to be able to fetch it
06:29<petn-randall>coolio: It's not really a problem because of the following: No package in main is allowed to depend in any way on contrib/non-free packages. This means that every package from those section you need to consciously install, they don't get pulled in by accident.
06:30<coolio>Can I set nonfree like backports where you must specify it in the command to install?
06:30<annadane>packages.debian.org will also have [contrib] or [non-free] next to the name if it is
06:31<jm_>coolio: like I said before - "looks like apt can pin based on component (section), that might also help", so go ahead and try it
06:31<petn-randall>coolio: Not really. But then again you're already specifying the non-free package name when you do.
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06:32<grove>petn-randall: But `apt search` doesn't tell you if a search result is in non-free/contrib, so if you're looking for something and finds that package 'foobar' seems to provide it and then do `apt install foobar`, dependencies doesn't really help you
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06:34<coolio>After all that the microcode does nothing the kernel doesn't in mitigations anyway.
06:34<blast007>coolio: BIOS/UEFI updates sometimes include updates to microcode (which then get loaded onto the CPU automatically each boot before the OS loads)
06:34<petn-randall>coolio: Some mitigations only work with the CPU microcode offering certain features.
06:35<petn-randall>But then again you're already running an older, non-free version of the microcode on your CPU, anyway.
06:35<coolio>My motherboars seems to have been forgotten, so no BIOS update there.
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06:37<coolio>Nothing since 2014
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06:49<Trident_Barclay>Why does linux seem to give me a longer battery? and also a quieter comptuer? Less heat and power consumption?
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06:52<gtristan>Trident_Barclay, that sounds contrary to the status quo, but encouraging to hear :)
06:52<petn-randall>Trident_Barclay: Longer than ... ?
06:52<simula>Trident_Barclay: if you're just idling at a shell prompt marvelling at the glory of your OS, that tends to chew less battery ;)
06:53<annadane>because windows is a veritable bloat-thing of horror
06:53<annadane>even KDE consumes far fewer resources
06:54<arto>but computers are built to use windows
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06:55<arto>also power saving technigues
06:56<arto>but I can't say, because really haven't used windows for years
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09:21<iprok>Hello! Can somebody tell me will php >=7.1 come to official stretch (stretch backports) repos? I'm asking because php7.0 eol if in the end of current years and debian stretch is supported till 2020
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09:28<petn-randall>iprok: That only means that Debian will be responsible for security updates.
09:28<petn-randall>iprok: All software in a Debian release will be supported to the release EOL unless noted otherwise.
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09:33<Anarka>funny example of that is procmail, last version is apparently from 2001... still going strong in debian
09:34<Anarka>probably not only debian :)
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10:27<dishant>hello
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10:33<user__>help
10:33<annadane>!ask
10:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:34<annadane>user__, ^
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10:35<starflare>Hello are you real people
10:35<annadane>no
10:35<starflare>LOL
10:35<annadane>do you have a question?
10:35<starflare>Are you guys using parrot os
10:35<duclicsic>XD
10:35<user__>Sorry! I am working on a server that I rebooted and it will not boot back up. It just boots and says "grub" on the screen. I am not a linux expert so I am not sure what to do. I belive the server is based off of Fedora 9. Any thoughts on what to do?
10:36<annadane>!parrot
10:36<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
10:36<annadane>starflare, ^
10:36<starflare>Yeah wassup
10:36<duclicsic>starflare: read the thing dpkg posted there, we don't use or support Parrot here
10:37<starflare>what do you guys support then ?
10:37<annadane>debian, like the channel room says
10:37<petn-randall>starflare: Take a wild guess.
10:37<duclicsic>fuck me
10:37<annadane>user__, fedora... i guess ask the fedora support people
10:37<starflare>wait i have a question are we talking under tor ?
10:37<arto>user__: channel is #debian, we don't support fedora or it's derivatives here
10:37<annadane>arto, wrong person
10:38<annadane>oh, sorry
10:38<annadane>god i'm an idiot
10:38<annadane>*right* person .......
10:38<petn-randall>starflare: Just ask.
10:38<duclicsic>i think that was the question
10:38<annadane>!fedora
10:38<dpkg>Fedora is the Red Hat-derived distribution of Linux, although it is not supported by Red Hat officially, you can get help from the community: #fedora on irc.freenode.net. http://fedoraproject.org/
10:38<starflare>are we using tor to communicate? is our communication encrypted
10:38<arto>annadane: has happened to me too... :)
10:39<annadane>no it's not
10:39<annadane>channel is in fact publically logged
10:39<petn-randall>starflare: You don't know how IRC works, do you?
10:39<starflare>i just got started
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10:39<arto>starflare: channel is logged, and log is pupblicly available
10:39<duclicsic>i would strongly advise not starting with parrot os. you could always try debian..
10:40<starflare>i used to be on kali linux but now im trying parrot maybe ill try debian
10:40<annadane>debian is general purpose. kali/parrot are specifically for penetration testing
10:40<annadane>and don't make for a very good first linux
10:41<arto>^^^!!
10:41<starflare>so am is my communication encrypted ?
10:41<petn-randall>This ^^^.
10:41<duclicsic>no
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10:41<petn-randall>starflare: no.
10:41<duclicsic>it is free for the entire world to read
10:41<arto>duclicsic: yes
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10:42<starflare>can you guys prefer a anonymous communication system ?
10:42<duclicsic>depends on the kind of communication i'm doing
10:42<annadane>irc is fairly anonymous, really
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10:42<petn-randall>starflare: and who you want to communicate to, also.
10:42<annadane>no one actually knows who i am in real life
10:42<arto>starflare: no, some people might learn about these discussions
10:42<starflare>yeah but i can still get your ip
10:42<arto>and we speak about debian, not any personal secrets, that's off topic here
10:43<petn-randall>starflare: You from Bahrain?
10:43<starflare>no
10:43<arto>starflare: why worried?
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10:43<starflare>im using vpn so it shows that
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10:43<petn-randall>starflare: So what have I gained with knowing your IP address, then?
10:44<starflare>if you talk to my isp you can get info about me
10:44<duclicsic>they just tell anyone that asks? that sounds like a pretty bad ISP
10:45<petn-randall>starflare: I thought you're using a VPN.
10:45<starflare>you can fake a complaint and get the authorities to give you a pardon to know more info about the guys ip adress
10:45<arto>starflare: if you speak about debian?
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10:46<duclicsic>the authorities got him. rip
10:46<arto>:)
10:47<annadane>i feel like putting up a thing in the topic, "it has been 0 days since the last question about kali/parrot"
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10:47<duclicsic>pretty sure it would never get above zero
10:47<arto>annadane: it would always be 0
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12:53<fuzail>how i can install setoolkit v6.5
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12:55<petn-randall>fuzail: Kali or Parrot?
12:55<arto>fuzail: not in debian repos
12:56<fuzail>parrot
12:56<arto>!parrot
12:56<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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14:01<Barteks2x_>how can I install ddrescue when running from livecd?
14:01<Barteks2x_>apt-get doesn't fuind it
14:02<mnuhmnuh>Barteks2x_: did you apt-get update first? try gddrescue?
14:02<Barteks2x_>gddrescue works
14:03<mnuhmnuh>aptitude search $blah
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14:04<Barteks2x_>and now... ddrescue: Can't open input file: No such file or directory
14:04<Barteks2x_>I literally copied the names from fdisk -l
14:04<mnuhmnuh>gddrescue
14:05<Barteks2x_>-su: gddrescue: command not found
14:05<Barteks2x_>ddrescue exists, but can't find input file
14:05<Barteks2x_>oh qwait it has different syntax...
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14:26<hate29>Is Debian Strech enough for Ryzen 1500x or do I need to use testing? I've read somewhere that kernel 4.9.10 is enough?
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14:29<mnuhmnuh>hate29: i'm running 4.16 from backports.
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14:30<mnuhmnuh>on stable, of course.
14:31<hate29>Does anything else work ok? I've had bad experiences with steam etc. earlier
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14:34<mnuhmnuh>not a gamer, never touched steam.
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14:40<Barteks2x_>where would be a good place to find help with ddrescue?
14:40<Barteks2x_>I can't really find what I want with google
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15:06<mnuhmnuh>wow. ddrescue is a googlewhack (_one_ result) on wiki.d.o!
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15:06<mnuhmnuh>and of no help to you.
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15:08<sarnold>I used ddrescue or dd_rescue or gddrescue once ages ago to solve a problem with disk corruption right in the middle of an MS Outlook jet database
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15:16<mnuhmnuh>sarnold: never heard of it, but description looks pretty interesting. merge multiple broken backups into one whole. huh.
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16:33<rifland>holla hello humain
16:33<rifland>dit moi
16:33<rifland>sous parrot os
16:34<rifland>cpomment saopelle le gestionnaire de fichier.
16:34<rifland>?
16:34<rifland>=pliz
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16:34<Trolilolotiste>Bourdel i need help
16:34<Trolilolotiste>!
16:34<Trolilolotiste>Fire in the hole!
16:34<Trolilolotiste>ahahahah
16:34<Trolilolotiste>pliz
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16:35<Trolilolotiste>re ol
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16:35<Trolilolotiste>une rep
16:35<Trolilolotiste>.
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16:36<bullshitParrotOS>:D
16:36<bullshitParrotOS>hi all
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16:40<bremner>dpkg: tell bullshitParrotOS about parrot
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16:54<bullshitParrotOS>hi bremner
16:54<bullshitParrotOS>i need to know how can i be root on daulphin in parrot
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16:55<bullshitParrotOS>i need to C/C some config filex
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16:55<mnuhmnuh>bullshitParrotOS: re-read what bremner told you.
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16:56<blast007>or what dpkg told you
16:56<bullshitParrotOS>mnuhmnuh, i dont fuckG what he said!
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16:56<bullshitParrotOS>dpkg ?
16:56<dpkg>bullshitParrotOS: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
16:56<bullshitParrotOS>for know hows the gestionnaire de fichier
16:56<bullshitParrotOS>lol
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16:56<bullshitParrotOS>dpkg, gestionnairte de fichier
16:56<dpkg>i don't know, bullshitParrotOS
16:57<bullshitParrotOS>fdp
16:57<bullshitParrotOS>some french people her
16:57<bullshitParrotOS>hir
16:57<mnuhmnuh>!fr
16:57<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
16:57<bullshitParrotOS>hei
16:57<bullshitParrotOS>THKS !
16:57<bullshitParrotOS>RRRR
16:57<bullshitParrotOS>* #debian-fr :Cannot send to channel (You are not registered and verified. '/msg NickServ help' to learn how to register and verify)
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16:58<bullshitParrotOS>bulllllllllllships
16:58<bullshitParrotOS>lol
16:58<mnuhmnuh>it's easy.
16:58<bullshitParrotOS>chips in french potatoes
16:58<bullshitParrotOS>mnuhmnuh, ok so i just want to C/c my hexchat conf in my new os
16:58<bullshitParrotOS>but when im cp
16:59<bullshitParrotOS>no work$
16:59<bullshitParrotOS>so
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17:00<mnuhmnuh>cp file new_file # assuming you are allowed to write new_file to where you want it written.
17:01<bullshitParrotOS>thats wat(h i have make before
17:01<bullshitParrotOS>so
17:01<bullshitParrotOS>thks mnuhmnuh
17:01<bullshitParrotOS>im gon bak to KALIù
17:02<mnuhmnuh>cp /full/path/to/file /full/path/to/new_file # also assuming ...
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17:02*mnuhmnuh good.
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18:18<iprok>petn-randall, so about php7.1. Does your words meansthat it will never be in debian stretch?
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18:29<mnuhmnuh>iprok: stretch is stable; it doesn't get new stuff, except for security, bug fixes, and backports.
18:30<iprok>mnuhmnuh, ok and what stuff goes to backports? can php 7.1 go to stretch-backports?
18:31<mnuhmnuh>iprok: i'm running 4.16 kernel from bpo on stable. prior was 4.9?
18:31<mnuhmnuh>.1 version diff sounds pretty trivial to me.
18:32<iprok>mnuhmnuh, ok, I got about kernel. I'm also using some software from backports. But I don't know the rules about how software is being backported
18:34<annadane>i assume php is quite a lot larger
18:34<annadane>i don't know how feasible it is, but i think there's a mailing list for it
18:34<annadane>lemme see if i can find it
18:35<annadane>software first of all needs to meet certain criteria before it can be backported, and then it's volunteer anyway
18:35<annadane>i'm not sure whether one can do a backport request
18:36<annadane>but you can direct queries to debian-backports@lists.debian.org
18:36<mnuhmnuh>iprok: backports are now officially included in debian, so don't worry about provenance/where they came from. :-)
18:36<bremner>you can, but it helps if you have a specific reason you need the new version
18:36<bremner>so "I saw there was a point release, can haz new shiny" will not get a very warm reception
18:37<iprok>Just to be clear I don't think I need php 7.1 in backports. I'm fully satisfied with php7.0. But I'm just interested how is decided which software goes there
18:37<iprok>there==backports
18:37<bremner>"It's complicated" (TM)
18:37<bremner>iprok: there are some docs for contributors on backports.debian.org
18:37<mnuhmnuh>iprok: this is where you step up and volunteer. :-)
18:38<bremner>oh, I just meant you could see the rules there
18:38<mnuhmnuh>heh, heh.
18:38<annadane>unless you have a lot of time, don't volunteer to maintain php in backports
18:38<bremner>not trying to "patches welcome" the newb, for once...
18:38<annadane>"why haven't YOU fixed debian yet?"
18:39<mnuhmnuh>good one.
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18:40<navi>hola
18:40<annadane>!es
18:40<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
18:41<iprok>Thank you guys. Things have just come a little bit clearer.
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18:45<mnuhmnuh>never understood this writing to the point release version of whatever. saw oracle announce a new feature once; didn't work til years later.
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21:23<ycesa>hello
21:24<dvs>???
21:25<ycesa>why ̣̣????
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21:26<dvs>life, in the channel!
21:27<sarnold>probably just a fluke
21:27<ycesa>help me pliz
21:27<ycesa>i m not join channel
21:27<dvs>just ask. People might pop up.
21:28<coruja>!bat
21:28<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
21:28<coruja>just in advance ;)
21:29<ycesa>!bat
21:29<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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21:32<ycesa>YEAHHH]
21:32<ycesa>ez
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21:35<dvs>!next
21:35<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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21:37<trijetscud>https://MattSTrout.com/ Check out this new blog by freenode staff member 'mst'
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