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04:31<SpeedyG>almost :)
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04:56<zuzabrik>526 magic number?
04:58<jm_>it's not really magic
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08:16<Edhil>hey guys
08:17<Edhil>I've an issue with e1000e driver on Debian 9 when running on vmware 6.5 VM (hardware version 13)
08:18<Edhil>the NIC is never up after a reboot, the only way to have it up is either to migrate the VM on another host or to disable / enable it from vCenter
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08:21<Edhil>is there any alternative debian repo for updated intel drivers ?
08:21<petn-randall>Edhil: If this happens, can you run 'mii-tool eth0' on the affected VM?
08:23<Edhil>sure, hold on ...
08:28<Edhil>I'm using the live CD to run my tests, so it take some time to install net-tools
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08:29<Edhil>hmm for mii-tool link is ok
08:30<Edhil>but for 'ip l' I have a state DOWN
08:30<Edhil>and <NO-CARRIER>
08:32<Edhil>petn-randall: ns224: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok
08:32<Edhil>petn-randall: ens224: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN group default qlen 1000
08:35<petn-randall>Edhil: I don't know how the network interfaces are configured with the live CD, but it looks like they aren't.
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08:40<Edhil>well it's the same with a freshly installed VM : vmxnet3 NIC are ok, but e1000e nic are not up at startup
08:41<arto>Edhil: doesn't manually bringin up work?
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08:41<Edhil>nope, I have to disable it from esxi / vCenter and enable again to have it working
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08:42<petn-randall>Edhil: https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/53624
08:42<Edhil>strer thing: if I sniff the trafic I can see the ARP requests coming
08:44<Edhil>petn-randall: yep exactly ... hence my question about any alternative repository for updated or different e1000e drivers
08:44<petn-randall>Edhil: Not gonna happen, I guess. You can try older or newer kernels, but the problem lies with vmware.
08:46<Edhil>I'll try older, that's an idea
08:46<petn-randall>,kernels
08:46<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.17.0-1-686-pae (4.17.8-1); buster: 4.17.0-1-686-pae (4.17.8-1); stretch-backports: 4.17.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.17.8-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-7-686-pae (4.9.110-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.7-686-pae (4.9.110-1~deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
08:46<judd>3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
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08:47<petn-randall>Edhil: So this happen with 4.9? You can try 4.17 from stretch-backports.
08:47<petn-randall>*happens
08:48<Edhil>yup I've the same issue with 4.9.0-6-amd64
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08:51<Edhil>ok I'll try 4.17
08:52<Edhil>or I'll revert to old 3.x kernel, as it's working on CentOS 7 with 3.10
08:53<Edhil>thanks for the kb, I could not find it (even if my issue is somewhat different)
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09:34<Synthea>Someone can explain me how this relates with syslog on debian? https://doc.powerdns.com/md/common/logging
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09:53<petn-randall>Synthea: Care to be more specific?
09:53<petn-randall>!ask
09:53<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
09:54<Synthea>petn-randall, I can't found any syslog.conf and I haven't understand how these settings relate to syslog
09:55<Synthea>A sample syslog.conf might be: yadda yadda
09:55<petn-randall>Synthea: Do you have syslog installed?
09:55<Synthea>What's the logging facility for example?
09:56<Synthea>petn-randall, No I have rsyslog
09:56<Synthea>Idk the difference
09:56<petn-randall>Synthea: https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.syslog.html
09:59<Edhil>Ok, 4.16.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 is working for me
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14:54<RalfJ>I am trying to fix apache2 not starting properly on boot. the problem is that I do not want it to listen to all adresses, just to some of them. the IPv6 address is configured via autoconfiguration. however, apache2 seems to start too early so it fails becuase the address does not exist yet
14:54<RalfJ>ideally apache2 could use dynamic binding to be able to open a socket even when the address does not exist yet
14:54<RalfJ>alterantively, is there some way to delay startup appropriately? I tried "post-up systemctl restart apache2" in /etc/network/interfaces, to no avail. I have added After=network-online.target, that also did not help.
14:55<RalfJ>this is all on stable
14:56<RalfJ>I now have a acron job to check this, but... ugh
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16:06<Tjips>Hi. Since Steam's update a few days ago my PS4 controller isn't getting picked up properly. Has anyone else had this issue? Any pointers as to where to look for the problem? Is it an issue on Steam's end? Thanks
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16:17<sakax>quick question, which is the official debian channel? the one here or the one on freenode? why 2 irc networks?
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16:22<Tjips>Seems to definitely be Steam's fault...
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16:45<Brigo>sakax, this one, though the other has more people.
16:46<grove>sakax: irc.debian.org points here... - the reason for having two channels is mostly history
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17:51<mnuhmnuh>uh, wow. "apt-get install -s -t=stretch-backports mate-desktop-environment" wants to install _a lot_ of stuff. is it worth it?
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17:52<Brigo>mnuhmnuh, there is a new version of mate from few days ago
17:52<Brigo>,v mate-desktop
17:52<judd>Package: mate-desktop on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.1+dfsg1-3+deb8u1; stretch: 1.16.2-2; stretch-backports: 1.18.0-2~bpo9+1; buster: 1.20.3-1; sid: 1.20.3-1
17:52<Brigo>1.18
17:54<mnuhmnuh>huh. wiki says 1.20.
17:54<Brigo>mnuhmnuh, the wiki is from the future. I am sure 1.20 is coming soon :D
17:55<mnuhmnuh>Brigo: yeah, it's in unstable.
17:55<Brigo>mnuhmnuh, and in testing
17:56<mnuhmnuh>and wiki says testing has 1.18. documentation; hmph.
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18:38<mnuhmnuh>wiki fixed.
18:40<Brigo>mnuhmnuh, i'll remember you should fixing it again when 1.20 reaches stretch-backports
18:41<Brigo>maybe next week ;)
18:42<crash_>1.20 is already in backports
18:43<mnuhmnuh>Brigo: yeah, i was considering an "as of" date stamp ...
18:44<Brigo>what?
18:44<Brigo>,v mate-desktop
18:44<judd>Package: mate-desktop on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.1+dfsg1-3+deb8u1; stretch: 1.16.2-2; stretch-backports: 1.18.0-2~bpo9+1; buster: 1.20.3-1; sid: 1.20.3-1
18:44<Brigo>no yet, crash_
18:44<mnuhmnuh>Brigo: no, they're correct: 1.20.0+5~bpo9+1
18:45<crash_>Brigo: yes i have it installed so yeah
18:45<crash_>Brigo: https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/mate-desktop
18:46<coruja>1.20.3-1~bpo9+1
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18:46<coruja>which makes sense as backports take testing's sources
18:47<crash_>:)
18:47<Brigo>right i have 1.20 installed. So stupid of me.
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18:47<Brigo>mnuhmnuh, so the wiki was right, and we can't trust judd any more!
18:48<crash_>judd is from the past?
18:48<coruja>i guess it depends on judd's update cycle
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18:48<Brigo>crash_, juud readd the debian database, so it shouldn't.
18:48<mnuhmnuh>they'r both moving targets, maintained by silly humans. snafu.
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