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---Logopened Wed Aug 01 00:00:58 2018
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01:06<twb>Is there a system-wide way to say "tell me how often fsync()s are hitting the kernel, and which processes are doing it" ?
01:06<twb>I can't just strace -p $(pidof slapd) because I don't currently know which processes are doing it (if any)
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01:18<jm_>twb: https://github.com/iovisor/bcc
01:18*twb looks
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01:19<jm_>specifically https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/tools/syncsnoop.py
01:22<twb>Can I just, like, git clone that repo and run syncsnoop from the clone?
01:22<twb>It's a bit daunting
01:24<twb>nope I need to at least compile libbcc.so.0
01:35<jm_>yeah it's not so trivial
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01:43<maxrazer>Does anyone know how I wasn't able to get any audio without installing pulse audio, but now that uninstalled pulse audio I can still get audio?
01:50<jm_>some apps need to be told to use PA, maybe it was about volume levels, see https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting
01:50<jm_>ahh disregard my first statement, I misread your problem
01:50<jm_>so yeah, maybe sound levels were not set but PA set them
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01:55<twb>maxrazer: in firefox?
01:56<maxrazer>twb, no I'm using chromium. I only tested that, not any other application.
01:56<maxrazer>I'm thinking maybe it set something up when it was installed.
01:56<maxrazer>created some file or something.
01:56<twb>mixer levels start out at 0% in the kernel, but udev triggers should set them to about 80% early on -- it should be hard to mess that up
01:57<maxrazer>I checked the alsamixer and everything. I could get no audio until I installed pulse audio. But I still have it after autoremoving it and restarting.
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01:59<jm_>you should have joined back then to troubleshoot it
02:01<twb>maxrazer: cat /proc/asound/cards --- how many cards are there
02:02<twb>Usually the analogue (speakers + headphones) are separate from the digital (HDMI port), and without pulseaudio, if HDMI is the default, the end result is no audible sound
02:05<maxrazer>twb, and how is the default selected with alsamixer? I see select sound card, but that seems more like a view settings, than set default.
02:05<maxrazer>Actually alsamixer still says that integrated sound is the default, which I'm not using.
02:06<maxrazer>need to restart
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02:15<twb>http://cyber.com.au/.asoundrc
02:16<twb>Oops
02:16<twb>http://cyber.com.au/~twb/.asoundrc
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02:20<twb>I used to do it via modprobe, but nowadays I'm lazy
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02:23<jm_>I just specify sound module index
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02:26<twb>jm_: that's what I meant
02:26<twb>options snd_hda_intel index=1
02:26<twb>in /etc/modprobe.d/fnordfnordfnorfnord.conf
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02:52<maxrazer>I tried a bunch of things and couldn't find any config files created by pulse audio.
02:52<twb>maxrazer: 16:16 <twb> http://cyber.com.au/~twb/.asoundrc
02:52<maxrazer>If I install pulse and and then autoremove it I get audio though.
02:52<twb>maxrazer: 16:26 <twb> options snd_hda_intel index=1 16:26 <twb> in /etc/modprobe.d/fnordfnordfnorfnord.conf
02:52<twb>maxrazer: ^ those are the two ways I know of if you have >1 card and just want to use "the good one"
02:52<maxrazer>I checked in /etc/modprobe.d
02:53<maxrazer>I haven't figured it out, but sound works. I guess that is OK for now.
02:53<twb>pulseaudio probably does some crazy thing
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02:53<maxrazer>I don't see why alsamixer couldn't just add a feature to set default audio device.
02:54<maxrazer>Asuming that is all that is needed.
02:54<twb>alsamixer sets mixer levels, i.e. it talks to /dev/snd/XXXctl only
02:54<twb>changing the default requires write access to /etc
02:54<twb>and it's conceptually a different job
02:54<dtw>Alsa has a concept of name "default" device and mixer.
02:55<maxrazer>I saw the default it shows. Ok, maybe another application to set default then. If it is as simple as these config files then it should be easy
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02:55<maxrazer>Debian with DWM seems to be working well though.
02:56<maxrazer>Does anyone have any idea what could be breaking my system causing network interface to totally stop working and getting "temporary unable to resolve hostname error"?
02:56<maxrazer>I've had it happen with testing and with stable plus backports. I'm not sure if it is the 4.16/17 kernel or what I'm doing.
02:57<maxrazer>I'm getting a broken system where I can't even run apt to repair it.
02:57<maxrazer>I've checked the dns names and the file is blank and adding fixes nothing. I can't even ping an ip. I believe "ip addr" shows no valid ip address.
02:58<maxrazer>Super weird as it has happened multiple times as I've tried to upgrade the system and also tried different desktops.
02:59<maxrazer>There is also this weird bios time clock error I see flash on my screen super fast when I boot. Before that it broke my system too. I kept getting an error saying the last mount time was in the future and I couldn't even get to a terminal.
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03:38<jm_>maxrazer: debug your resolver then?
03:39<jm_>if you can't ping an IP then look at your interface + routing config
03:41<jm_>the first error might be related to the last one though
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05:33<vvug_>Hi. I'm running unstable. How is it that when 'apt upgrade' I get:
05:33<vvug_>The following packages have been kept back: grub-common grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin grub2-common
05:34<vvug_>but if I "apt install <those packages>" they are upgraded without removing any other package?
05:34<vvug_>what is helding them back?
05:34<vvug_>or: how do I check what is holding them back?
05:36<dtw>vvug_, for unstable: #debian-next
05:37<vvug_>dtw: ok
05:39<vvug_>Anyway the question can be made more general. What can hold back packages, beside the removal of another installed package?
05:40<vvug_>A and 'apt full-upgrade' does upgrade them, without installing/uninstalling any other packag3e
05:41<jm_>!held back
05:41<dpkg>somebody said kept back was when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available. This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "full-upgrade" and old packages need to be removed as part of the upgrade. To investigate, "aptitude -s install <kept-package>". See also http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 and ask me about <full-upgrade>.
05:41<jm_>one of the above
05:42<dtw>Or "aptitude why <package" or "aptitude why-not <package>"
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05:44<vvug_>ok, there is an unresolved Recommends
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07:26<mk3pq28>Hi, guys! May someone help me with sftp access? I have a special system user (called listener) to get connected. His shell is /bin/false. His match-section in sshd_config says: PermitTTY yes, ForceCommand internal-sftp, ChrootDirectory /to/somewhere. But...
07:27<arto>mk3pq28: continue
07:28<mk3pq28>sftp listener@host; authenticated; sftp> !cat /etc/passwd - works
07:28<peter1138>! executes it locally
07:29<peter1138>That's not showing you /etc/passwd on the sftp server
07:32<mk3pq28>ohh... Somehow I didn`t notice that and got stucked about 2 hours...
07:32<mk3pq28>peter1138: Thanks a lot))
07:33<peter1138>You're welcome :)
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07:39<petn-randall>heh :)
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08:30<x3dre>hi #debian
08:30<arto>!ask
08:30<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
08:31<x3dre>I have a problem with my install of debian from a cd network install.
08:31<arto>x3dre: that's quite general, what kind of problem?
08:32<x3dre>I got all of the os installed but once I reboot the lptop continually reboots after the menu selection is chosen...
08:32<x3dre>boot loops
08:32<arto>x3dre: did you get any error messages when installing?
08:32<x3dre>no error mesgs
08:33<arto>x3dre: disabled secure boot?
08:33<x3dre>the unit doesn't have that.
08:34<arto>x3dre: secure boot is in bios/uefi, virtually all newer pc:s/laptops have it
08:34<x3dre>this laptop is about 6 years + old
08:35<arto>x3dre: ok, understood
08:35<arto>x3dre: is so fast, that you can't see what is on the screen
08:35<arto>*is it
08:36<x3dre>the booting of sarting up is a bit to fast to see the screen messages
08:36<arto>x3dre: take a picture, can be tricky, but try
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08:37<arto>x3dre: you could also try live-cd
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08:37<x3dre>so far I've gone into grub menu and tried setting the options there ...
08:37<x3dre>I've wiped the disk clean of all kali now too ...
08:38<arto>!kali
08:38<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
08:38<x3dre>so all partitions are gone ...
08:38<x3dre>a virgin install now it is..
08:39<dtw>Kernel option boot_delay=<milliseconds> can delay the time between messages.
08:39<arto>x3dre: perhaps grub installation went wrong, hard to say
08:40<x3dre>arto, I can send an picture of the grub menu config if that will help..?
08:40<arto>x3dre: use some web picture service, then paste the link
08:41<x3dre>dtw, I can press escape to stop the menu from scrolling... Would it be easier to do ctrl+s to pause the screen ?
08:42<arto>x3dre: try if it works
08:42<x3dre>arto, which paste site do you recommend ?
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08:43<arto>x3dre: I've used imgbb
08:43<x3dre>ok
08:43<arto>x3dre: for pictures
08:43<dtw>x3dre, a quick one: https://pic.useful.fi/
08:43<x3dre>dtw thx
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09:03<x3dre>https://pic.useful.fi/SJ0i1E1Hm.jpg
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09:06<arto>x3dre: I expressed my self badly, can you take a picture of what happens just before reboot, perhaps error message
09:07<x3dre>ok :)
09:07<dtw>x3dre, maybe try editing Grub's "linux" command line: remove "quiet" and add "boot_delay=1000" (for 1 second). Then boot.
09:07<arto>^ good ones
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09:13<x3dre>dtw ok will do that ...
09:15<x3dre>dtw is there anyway to slow the screen booting sequence of the commands flying by upwards on the screen?
09:16<dtw>I don't know. How is boot_delay=<milliseconds> working?
09:17<x3dre>dtw it seems to have gone stuck with a blank flashing cursor in the top left of the screen ...
09:19<x3dre>dtw are the "" needed ?
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09:23<x3dre>dtw, is there a way to step through the commands running while booting 1 at a time ?
09:23<dtw>I don't know.
09:23<x3dre>ok
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09:46<x3dre>dtw, is there a video site to show you the video clip instead ?
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10:01<x3dre>found one the scrolling is quick but the last entry in screen is the before it reboots. https://sendvid.com/p3bgk6f1
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10:04<EmleyMoor>Can complessed NTFS be read on Debian?
10:05<EmleyMoor>compressed *
10:06<Blacker47>EmleyMoor, should work.
10:06<EmleyMoor>Blacker47: Thanks. Church secretary's PC is in a bit of a mess and I want to take a backup of the disk before I go further
10:07<arto>x3dre: last line I could read was something reached udev..
10:07<x3dre>arto, I saw that too...
10:08<arto>x3dre: and there was nothing unusual to my eye
10:08<arto>x3dre: udev should no cause reboot
10:08<arto>x3dre: so getting more difficult to solve
10:09<x3dre>arto, I scratch my head too
10:09<arto>x3dre: I'm sorry, but only I can recommend is reinstall
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10:10<x3dre>tried that 4 times now ...
10:10<arto>x3dre: ok, weird, hw problem?
10:11<arto>x3dre: was it kali that was previous os, it run fine?
10:11<x3dre>arto, I think it is too as I just tried booting off a tails usb and the same thing happened :o
10:11<arto>x3dre: that's rare, but has happened to other too, sometimes laptops do break
10:13<x3dre>I've just changed in the bios to IDE instead of ACHI ...
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10:14<arto>x3dre: the boot actually goes quite far, before problem occurs
10:14<x3dre>I'll try reinstalling again and see what happens ... I think the mbr might be corrupt or something...
10:15<arto>x3dre: 5th time, you got good nerver!
10:15<arto>nerves*
10:15<x3dre>arto, its my mum's machine I gotta have good nerves lol
10:15<arto>x3dre: let's knock on wood, and hope it will boot nicely
10:16<arto>x3dre: :)
10:16<x3dre>yes plz I ask the heavens above lol
10:18<arto>x3dre: try installing minimal system, if that boot, install the rest then
10:19<arto>x3dre: if that makes any sense to you
10:22<x3dre>arto, will do :)
10:23<arto>x3dre: select Expter install, then install just base system, try to boot, if boots, you can install gui like: (as root apt install gnome OR kde OR xfce OR whatever
10:23<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... not really practical to get the disk out anyway
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14:53<mnuhmnuh>damn debian's cool. mate-desktop-environment 1.20.3, from bpo. tres slick, no prob's, can't see any diffs between it and 1.16 yet, but slick!
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15:34<SpeedyG>fwiw, Debian has been my fav for over 15 years now... and i'm really happy to see that two of the 'targets' in the Offensive Security labs that are considered the most difficult targets, are debian boxes... 'most secure distro' :D :D
15:38<Brigo>mnuhmnuh, i checked the changelog, not that much changes you can see.
15:39<Brigo>SpeedyG, interesting, any link, please?
15:39<mnuhmnuh>Brigo: which is cool. clean up, fix extraneous bugs, i'm happy. :-)
15:41<Brigo>mnuhmnuh, see for yourself: http://mate-desktop.org/blog/
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15:44<SpeedyG>Brigo: https://www.offensive-security.com/information-security-training/penetration-testing-training-kali-linux/
15:45<SpeedyG>Brigo: they keep as much behind closed doors as possible, also to keep the challenges up, so no write-ups of the actual breaking into the systems is allowed... (except for the exam reports that have to be handed in)
15:46<SpeedyG>Brigo: but if you google for OSCP and 'Pain', 'Sufferance' and 'Humble', you'll find loads of write-ups as far as they're allowed
15:46<SpeedyG>(only non-deb of those three is Pain)
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15:47<Brigo>SpeedyG, thanks.
15:50<mnuhmnuh>Brigo: some of that blog's quite amusing. good for kazakhstan, poland, novosibirsk, and puero rico; i'm happy for them. hooray for bug reports! intl effort.
15:52<mnuhmnuh>"actually *check* the $GIO_REQUIRED variable’s value"; "Oh, weren't we doing that?"
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15:53<Brigo>XD
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16:28<maxrazer>I couldn't get audio to work without pulse audio installed (though I could remove it and audio would still work). I installed debian sid/buster and audio works fine with just alsa now.
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16:47<mnuhmnuh>"debian sid/buster"?!? we have an unstable/testing release? noobs.
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16:55<Myon>mnuhmnuh: cat /etc/debian_version
16:56<Myon>buster/sid
16:58<mnuhmnuh>i have a bash alias i can't change. or, i've changed it in .bash_aliases, but it still uses the old def'n, even after reboot. is mate saving aliases somewhere i don't know of?
16:58<mnuhmnuh>Myon: i'm on stretch, so 9.5
16:59<Brigo>mnuhmnuh, not mate. Maybe it is defined somewhere after that file is procesed, like .profile or .bashrc
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17:02<mnuhmnuh>Brigo: no .profile here, just .bash_profile which calls/runs .bashrc, which runs .bash_aliases
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17:03<mnuhmnuh>curious.
17:04<ach>!hm
17:04<dpkg>I wonder...
17:04<mnuhmnuh>tried unalias; didn't work. may unalias and reboot; see if that sticks.
17:05<mnuhmnuh>well, it worked and deleted the alias, but i still end up back in the same place.
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17:07<mnuhmnuh>!weird
17:07<dpkg>hmm... weird is #del#
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17:16<mnuhmnuh>crap. found it in ~/.bash_net - happy dance. # "grep " blah=" ./.*
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17:25<maxrazer>How do I list all the installed applications in a category like? Shouldn't there be a command like "apt list --games" ?
17:28<maxrazer>I don't have an application menu. I'm just using the dwm window manager.
17:30<Synthea^>I have a recursor set so that it will send dns queries from 127.0.0.5 to a dnscrypt-proxy on 127.0.0.8, the recursor makes the query, the resolver answers (on ipv4) and it gets an icmpv6 administratively proibited response
17:30<Synthea^>This problem doesn't show up when the resolvers send queries from 127.0.0.1
17:31<Synthea^>*the resolver
17:31<grawity>sounds like your firewall rules don't allow all of localhost correctly?
17:32<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: i know you can find like apps w debtags; you could check that against aptitude search | grep ^i # debtags search "(protocol::db:psql || devel::lang:sql) && (interface::graphical || interface::web)"
17:33<Synthea^>grawity, I've check my firewall through iptables -vL on both filter and nat on both ipv4 and ipv6 and none of the rules who should block that has activated
17:33<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, Ok, thank you
17:33<Synthea^>Otherwise it should show the number of packets who has matched that rule
17:34<Synthea^>Also I've set it so it sends to syslog the reject packets
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17:35<Synthea^>So if nfilter is working properly it should not be him
17:36<Synthea^>But if you can say something that can help me or maybe clarify that there are cases when the precautions I've taken doesn't apply theyre welcome grawity
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17:51<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: you could just "aptitude search game | grep ^i"; that'd likely show what you're after.
17:52<ach>!dpkg
17:52<dpkg>methinks dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>.
17:53<ach>!HELLO
17:53<dpkg>Hi, ach!
17:54<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, I'm trying that. I don't know the name of the game.
17:55<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: you don't need to know the game's name; aptitude will find anything with "game" in its name.
17:56<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, I tried that and got some interesting results for game. However the games I'm looking for won't had the word game in the name.
17:56<retrospectacus>maxrazer: dpkg -l |less
17:57<retrospectacus>then look for it (press / to search)
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18:18<maxrazer>Ok, but I know the category.
18:19<retrospectacus>!aptitude search
18:19<dpkg>aptitude search is a powerful searching facility that by default only searches package names, but can be made to search priorities, installation status, dependencies etc. See /usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/ch02s04.html (aptitude-doc package), https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/ch02s04s05.html or ask me about <aptitude docs>.
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18:43<lisandro>dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable ← has anyone else bein experiencing this? I saw a user complaining while using sudo, but I'm logged as root and have the same issue
18:43<dpkg>lisandro: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
18:43<lisandro>he, convenient name for the bot :-)
18:45<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: "aptitude search '~dfluxbox ~i'" searches for all installed fluxbox related pkgs. try '~dgames ~i'
18:47<mnuhmnuh>lisandro: install pastebinit, and you can do command | pastebinit or pastebinit file
18:48<lisandro>mnuhmnuh: no need, I actually write all the necessary stuff in that line
18:48<lisandro>:)
18:48<lisandro>the error just happes to start with the "dpkg" string
18:48<lisandro>s/write/wrote/
18:50<mnuhmnuh>lisandro: default user PATH doesn't contain /sbin, which is where ldconfig resides. use "su -" to go to root, not bare "su"
18:50<lisandro>"I'm logged as root" :-)
18:50<mnuhmnuh>lisandro: how?
18:50<lisandro>ooh, su -
18:50<ach>!?
18:51<lisandro>did not see that
18:51<lisandro>I know get it
18:52<lisandro>so either ldconfig moved to /sbin or something else changed
18:52<maxrazer>Multiple chromium windows work too?
18:52<maxrazer>nevermind
18:52<mnuhmnuh>lisandro: bare su drags in user env logging into root. su- clobbers user env w root's env.
18:52<lisandro>right
18:52<lisandro>but somehow it did work until yesterday
18:52<lisandro>and broke my chroot usage
18:53<lisandro>mnuhmnuh: thanks a lot non the less, indeed I now see why it is happening
18:54<lisandro>now ideally I need to find what changed ;-)
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18:55<mnuhmnuh>i doubt ldconfig has been moved recently.
18:55<lisandro>yeah, me too
19:03<lisandro>s/know/now Not my day, clearly ;-)
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19:07<mnuhmnuh>touch typing never helped me with c & perl programming; half the code's punctuation chars.
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19:09<maxrazer>Is there any way to adjust alsa volume using keyboard volume controls? Perhaps even an onscreen volume indicator?
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19:14<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: i've a volume control in mate, and gkrellm's volume plugin; i don't mind pulseaudio though; works.
19:15<mnuhmnuh>alsamixergui ?
19:15<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, Yeah, the keyboard keys worked in mate and xfce as long as the volume plugin for the task bar was added.
19:15<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, I've run that but I don't think that will help with physical buttons dedicated to audio.
19:15<maxrazer>I think some sort of daemon would be needed to run in the background. I don't want to have to start a program to adjust the audio. I want dedicated keys.
19:16<maxrazer>Normally most keyboard have dedicated volume function keys.
19:16<maxrazer>I press function-N,M or , for up/down/mute
19:17<maxrazer>There are also play/pause, stop, next back keys
19:17<mnuhmnuh>i was shocked to see the tiny multi-media control thingy on my keyboard fired up vlc when i accidentally leaned on it. i thought i need to define what those buttons did. nope.
19:17<maxrazer>With a desktop environment you probably had a default media player.
19:18<maxrazer>application preferences
19:18<maxrazer>And those shortcuts must be pretty standard with their commands. That is the Mate team though I guess. It wasn't a file you clicked on though, so that is sort of special. I'd be a bit shocked too.
19:19<maxrazer>I don't have media player button though. I don't have any application shortcut buttons.
19:19<maxrazer>just media controls.
19:20<maxrazer>Actually I think I have a calcuator button. That is the only one I see.
19:20<mnuhmnuh>well, vlc was already running, but iconified (?). still thought those buttons were no-ops/undefined.
19:20<maxrazer>Volume is super important though. It is a pain to have to open a terminal just to change volume.
19:22<mnuhmnuh>i have three xterms open at all times. the cli's a feature!
19:22<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, have you tried DWM?
19:23<mnuhmnuh>yeah, tres cool. wanna change how it works? edit source and recompile. smiple[sic].
19:24<mnuhmnuh>prob. the smallest of the lightweights.
19:25<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, Yeah, I've heard. It may not be too difficult. There may be better ones based on DWM which don't require that. I know awsome uses config files but it is lua.
19:25<maxrazer>I'm trying to remember if i3 is based on it
19:29<mnuhmnuh>dwm is very easy to use. just what one would hope for from a wm in the early '80s to replace twm.
19:30<maxrazer>I never used linux/unix in the 90's but I used Motif in the 2000's
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19:31<maxrazer>Looks like MWM (motif) is in the Debian repository
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19:31<maxrazer>I think I'll give it a try!
19:32<mnuhmnuh>also see lesstif
19:33<mnuhmnuh>which doesn't appear to exist ...
19:35<maxrazer>MWM works. The menu is really deep to get to a terminal though.
19:36<mnuhmnuh>motif reminded me too much of decwindows, which worked great, but i'm allergic to vms.
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19:37<maxrazer>I tried to open chromium in the other virtual terminal session and it said it opened it on my original one.
19:37<maxrazer>I can't open it in two different window managers on different tty at the same time it seems
19:37<maxrazer>Other applications seem to work though
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19:41<maxrazer>Ok, running two window managers at the same time and exiting the second one crashed debian.
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19:48<ach>!bad luck
19:48<ach>!rofl
19:48<dpkg>from memory, rotfl is Rolling On The Floor Laughing, something you're rather unlikely to be able to type in while you do it
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19:48<x3dre>finally got debian installed... Booted once ok and I was using it... Now second reboot (initramsfs) appears ... What do I do now ?
19:49<sney>that is not an error message, what else is happening?
19:50<x3dre>sney, nothing else it's waiting for a command to be issued from me ..
19:50<x3dre>flashing cursor
19:50<ach>!eight
19:50<ach>.>
19:50<x3dre>underscore _
19:52<ach>simply have you tried the boot option in grub for secure?
19:52<ach>>.>
19:52<ach>!draconat
19:52<x3dre>ach, how do I do that ?
19:53<EmleyMoor>x3dre: I don't think it should be doing that. Have you tried resetting?
19:53<x3dre>yes rebooted twice & it keeps dropping to this...
19:58<x3dre>ach, I'm in grub> now
19:58<ach>i would first try boot option with grub then just reinstall initramfs from dvd/cd shell from fails ->
19:58<mnuhmnuh>update-initramfs
19:58<ach>!dracut
19:58<dpkg>i heard dracut is a "cross-distribution" <initramfs> (a cpio archive of the initial filesystem that gets loaded into memory at boot time) which looks to replace the initramfs patchwork. http://lwn.net/Articles/317793/
19:59<ach>meh
19:59<ach>!failsafe
19:59<ach>!filesafe
20:00<ach>hm
20:00<ach>i don't know the command
20:00<x3dre>ok
20:00<mnuhmnuh>update-initramfs *should* be called by apt-get upgrade & friends.
20:02<x3dre>mnuhmnuh, now It's working on the 4th reboot wtf :o
20:04<x3dre>now all I need to find is skype 32 bit for linux :)
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20:06<mnuhmnuh>https://wiki.debian.org/skype
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20:06<x3dre>mnuhmnuh, cheers :)
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20:08<mnuhmnuh>https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-skype-on-debian-9-stretch-linux
20:08<x3dre>cool
20:08<mnuhmnuh>no, ixquick.
20:09<mnuhmnuh>i haven't googled in years.
20:10<x3dre>I use ddg
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20:34<mnuhmnuh>i thought ddg was attached in some way to MS. not according to their wikipedia page. looks great, now that i've looked.
20:34<mnuhmnuh>don't believe everything you hear.
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22:28<Synthea^>!netiquette
22:28<dpkg>from memory, netiquette is a set of guidelines that makes the people on the Internet live together in peace and harmony, well, at least in theory, or at http://www.fau.edu/netiquette/netiquette.html, or found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/rfc/rfc1855.txt
22:38<ach>!gnu
22:38<dpkg>well, gnu is a recursive acronym which stands for GNU's Not UNIX. The GNU project is dedicated to the creation of a 100% Free Software Operating System. http://www.gnu.org/ #gnu on irc.freenode.net.
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22:52-!-ttelford is "Troy Telford" on #debian-next #debian #debian-voip #debian-ipv6
23:01<mnuhmnuh>ach: if you're just surfing dpkg, use "/msg dpkg $whatever"
23:06<ach>!GG
23:06<dpkg>i heard gg is good game
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23:13-!-kengyu is "Keng-Yu Lin" on #debian #debian-amd64 #debian-desktop #debian-i18n #debian-next #debian-qemu #debian-riscv #debian-xen #debian-zh #debconf18-taiwan
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