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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-08-15

---Logopened Wed Aug 15 00:00:06 2018
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08:27<Synthea>When opening konsole I get Warning: Could not start program '/bin/bash' with arguments '/bin/bash'. Warning: chdir: permission denied however gnome-terminal works fine
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08:58<keycollector>When running find, i get a error of "find: File system loop detected; ‘/usr/bin/X11’ is part of the same file system loop as ‘/usr/bin’." ls on the file shows "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 May 3 2017 /usr/bin/X11 -> ."
08:58<keycollector>Is this suppose to be pointing at "." ? The current directory? Does this make sense?
09:00<petn-randall>keycollector: Yes, that's normal. It's probably provided for legacy reasons.
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09:04<keycollector>petn-randall: It seems like that would make sense. Had to do some quick reading on the history. Thanks!
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12:53<znoteer>jitterstick: I shouldn't post questions so late at night. I fell asleep shortly afterwards. I reinstalled flash-kernel like you suggested and that allowed update initramfs to finish (remember the extra "("?)
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13:03<jitterstick>Yes.
13:04<jitterstick>I'm glad it worked.
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13:04<jitterstick>I should not have called it a frown though.
13:05<znoteer>no matter, I understood you :) thanks
13:05<jitterstick>You are welcome. I learned about plug computers. Tiny little things.
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13:58<ullbeking>Hello
13:59<ullbeking>Has anybody had experience using the ASUS ZenDrive U7M on Debian?
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14:00<ullbeking>I’m thinking of buying an external DVD-RW and that one looks like the best option so far, pending Linux compatibility.
14:02<arto>ullbeking: I have external Buffalo DVD-rw stattion, at it works great
14:03<arto>ullbeking: if it is usb-connected, I would say it's good change it would work
14:03<ullbeking>Thank you arto
14:03<ullbeking>I suppose booting is a more delicate matter, however..?
14:07<arto>ullbeking: I've also booted, you just have to enable it in bios/uefi
14:08<ullbeking>arto: ok, cool. It might be a different matter after I flash coreboot, however ;-)
14:09<arto>ullbeking: :)
14:11<arto>ullbeking: and to write dvd:s, my Buffalo requires it's bot usb-connectors plugger, for readin using one is enough
14:11<arto>*both
14:11<arto>*plugged
14:11<ullbeking>arto: is it USB 3?
14:11<arto>ullbeking: no, older, usb2
14:12<arto>ullbeking: good point, usb 3 can transmit more power
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14:21<ullbeking>arto: yes I read many reviews and it was common to see USB 3 drives’ requirements for two USB cables to supply enough power
14:25<arto>ullbeking: that's a bit suprising for me, have to check that. Maximum power incereased in usb => usb 2 transition, I'd suppose the same would happen also from 2 to 3.
14:26<ullbeking>arto: maybe “common” is a slight exaggeration, but it was written in at least a couple of reviews
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14:29<arto>ullbeking: okay, maybe some devices still need two cables, some do not
14:30<ullbeking>arto: I’m having a related conversation in #coreboot and another nice recommendation is to use a SATA drive with a USB-SATA adapter, which is a more flexible solution.
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14:32<arto>ullbeking: that's on option, but you can't use Asus ZenDrive for that
14:32<ullbeking>arto: oh? Why not?
14:32<ullbeking>Oh ofc
14:32<ullbeking>It’s USB lol
14:33<arto>ullbeking: I understood it has only usb-connection
14:33*ullbeking slaps himself mockingly on his forehead
14:34<arto>ullbeking: that's just what you need to with it, I have a notebook which has not internal dvd, so usb dvd-drive has been valuable
14:35<ullbeking>Yes, the implicit thing I didn’t state was that with this option I’d look for a SATA drive, and in fact, I think I already have some that just arrived (for installation in a different machine)
14:36<arto>ullbeking: ok, so basically you can forget what we just discussed
14:36<ullbeking>arto: I have an external Apple SuperDrive, but I don’t know if that’s going to work on Linux.
14:37<arto>ullbeking: can't say, you have to try. But I think even Apple follows usb standards.
14:37<ullbeking>And I still will probably want a fully usb solution for ease of use for my partner and me, when we want to watch movies without too much fuss.
14:37<arto>ullbeking: if it has usb-connection
14:37<arto>ullbeking: it's up to you
14:38<ullbeking>arto: my current use case is for data, lots of it. But for watching DVDs then the fully USB solution would be advantageous.
14:39<arto>ullbeking: ok, usb then.
14:40<ullbeking>Cool, thanks for all your help arto
14:40<arto>ullbeking: try that Apple SuperDrive, or check from internet
14:40<arto>ullbeking: you are welcome
14:42<ullbeking>arto: the Apple SuperDrive is even incompatible between different laptops/versions of OS X :-( you literally have to hack around on some of the system configuration files to get it to work, which is ridiculous but not surprising. Nevertheless, I’ll try the SuperDrive tonight on my X200 and see how it goes, as an interim solution.
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14:43<arto>ullbeking: that's not a suprise, it beeing from Apple, but it will not cost anything trying
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14:45<arto>ullbeking: https://christianmoser.me/use-apples-usb-superdrive-with-linux/ seems possible, but requires a little hacking
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15:06<arto>ullbeking: I got to go, hope you find a working solution
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15:38<Kohlrabi>Hi, when I follow this guide https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed/EditIso to edit the initrd of my debian 9.5 ISO, the resulting ISO file can not be booted in (U)EFI mode anymore. Is there another guide how to create EFI compatible ISOs?
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15:50<mdx0>can someone hear me?
15:51<sarnold>o/~ is there anybody out there o/~
15:51<mdx0>had to register me
15:51<mdx0>sorry
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16:02<Brigo>sarnold, wha'ts that? a flag?
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16:12<sarnold>Brigo: little musical note :)
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16:52<Brigo>sarnold, :D
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18:12<cob>is there a way to build a kernel module package? I've read pretty much all of the maint-guide till the Advanced packaging Appendix, but there's no mention of that
18:13<cob>I'm really building for ubuntu, but their docs are so broken that I had to go to the source :)
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20:18<poz2k4444>hello, I'm struggling with a sudoers file that I'm trying to modify (after make it work I'll use /etc/sudoers.d), what I want to do is to let www-data user to run a specific script, but I don't know why it is not working, not even `www-data ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL` is working, can somebody help me here? thanks!
20:19<peb>what do you see when you type sudo -l as www-data?
20:20<poz2k4444>peb: I can't login to www-data => `www-data❌33:33:www-data:/var/www:/usr/sbin/nologin`
20:20<peb>yes you can : "sudo su -s /bin/bash - www-data
20:20<peb>"
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20:21<sarnold>well that's an interesting glyph..
20:21<sarnold>www-data❌33
20:21<sarnold>giant red x. maybe you knkow what that is :)
20:22<poz2k4444>heh, yeah... peb, nice, I didn't know I could do that, I see:
20:22<poz2k4444>https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Vtlnb9RC/
20:22<peb>try sudo echo "slam" as www-data?
20:23<poz2k4444>https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MpV0233z/
20:23<peb>then your sudoers file works.
20:23<peb>that said
20:24<peb>a nopasswd entry in a sudoers file is quite dangerous
20:24<peb>you should consider seriously finding alternatives
20:24<poz2k4444>peb: but, for instance, I set a file with 640, when I try to cat the file it says permission denied
20:24<poz2k4444>peb: I will use a custom script, with nopasswd, and all that in mind, but I haven't been able to run some commands
20:24<peb>poz2k4444: can you give me an example?
20:25<poz2k4444>https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/onvR3G44/
20:25<poz2k4444>peb: wait, it is working now
20:25<peb>and your "cat" attempt?
20:26<poz2k4444>peb it did work
20:26<peb>hm
20:27<peb>then you're all set ^^
20:27<poz2k4444>peb: ok... I probably missed something with all the stuff I tried, thanks for your time, it is working now...
20:27<poz2k4444>peb: yes, thanks a lot :D
20:27<peb>you're welcome
20:27<poz2k4444>peb: and to be clear, I'll make it secure with a custom script even tho I'll use nopasswd and www-data will be able to only run that command
20:29<peb>ack
20:29<peb>:)
20:29<poz2k4444>peb: :D
20:29<poz2k4444>thanks, have a nice day!
20:29<peb>you too
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22:32<Synthea>How can I get a copy of the debian.org zone?
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