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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-08-23

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07:02<danlii>I have a problem with nfs that I feel a bit stupid about not being able to grasp, but anyway. I can't change group ownership of files and directories on an nfs share, although I'm a member of those groups. root seems to be able to, if I enable no_root_squash, but my user cannot.
07:04<petn-randall>danlii: Maybe the uid/gid on both sides don't match up.
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07:04<eirc>also take a look at options no_subtree_check,all_squash may be useful
07:04<jimpop>:q
07:04<jimpop><sigh>
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07:05<danlii>petn-randall: I tried two different shares, one from a server where the uid and gid didn't exist, and one where it matched the client, but I got the same error on both.
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07:07<danlii>eirc: Tried, didn't work.
07:07<blast007>are you supposed to be able to change ownership of files you own or are a member of? can't seem to do it here on a file I created
07:08<danlii>blast007: If I own a file, I am supposed to be able to change group ownership on it to any of the groups I'm a member of. It works on local fs, but not on nfs.
07:08<petn-randall>this ^
07:08<danlii>And I'm pretty sure I haven't had this problem before.
07:09<blast007>danlii: okay, that's a bit more of a specific situation that you didn't mention initially
07:09<danlii>I also have the exact same problem on an nfs share from a NetApp appliance, so I'm beginning to think it's client related somehow.
07:10<blast007>actually, I guess you did mention it, my bad
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07:21<grawity>how many groups are you a member of?
07:21<grawity>wireshark it and make sure all of them are sent over rpc (I think the limit was 16 or so)
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07:39<danlii>grawity: I tried with both being a member of 16+ groups and then less, neither worked.
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11:53<tony_was_taken>i shrinked the size of my root partition
11:54<tony_was_taken>when i try to reinstall grub using rescue mode It says Bus error
11:54<tony_was_taken>i use dualboot and windows works fine
11:56<tony_was_taken>i shrinked usign a live CD with gpart
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12:00<mnuhmnuh>tony_was_taken: what's your partiton layout scheme? lvm, luks, discrete/traditional partions, other?
12:02<mnuhmnuh>tony_was_taken: is this a vm? encrypted? using stretch/stable?
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12:03<tony_was_taken>stretch stable no vm , no enc
12:03<tony_was_taken>i am not sure about partition layout, i am checking
12:04<mnuhmnuh>tony_was_taken: why rescue mode? won't boot?
12:06<tony_was_taken>no, Debian gives a lot of wired fails, i thought was a grub error
12:07<mnuhmnuh>weird fails -> paste.debian.net
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12:18<tony_was_taken>https://unsee.cc/8ad34e8f
12:18<tony_was_taken>i cannot copy and paste, i am using my phone
12:19<tony_was_taken>and i didnt get how to know which part layout my HD is
12:19<petn-randall>" Deleting after first view or in 23 : 57 : 33 "
12:20<petn-randall>That's not very helpful if several people are helping to debug your issue.
12:20<petn-randall>!paste
12:20<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
12:20<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: Try picpaste ^^^
12:20<tony_was_taken>https://ibb.co/hkqvqz
12:20<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: From that error I'm assuming you hosed your filesystem by shrinking it in the wrong order.
12:21<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: You can run fsck, as the error says, and see if the data is still there.
12:21<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: However, if you forgot to shrink the *filesystem* before shrinking the partition, you can kiss your data goodbye and restore from backups.
12:22<tony_was_taken>says fsck from util-linux 2.29.2
12:22<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: You know that you need to pass a filesystem as parameter, right?
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12:23<tony_was_taken>sorry I cannot use these tool and i am afraid to make some stupid mistake
12:23<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: it shouldn't be an issue, since you have backups.
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12:25<tony_was_taken>with fdisk /dev/mypart It says inodes block passes check, but checksum dont match
12:26<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: If you don't have backups, I'd take the system offline and use forensic tools to recover as much data as possible.
12:26<tony_was_taken>It asks me to fix
12:26<tony_was_taken>should i fix ?
12:27<tony_was_taken>Yes, in the worst case i can do It from windows
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12:28<tony_was_taken>seems Logic, inodes block seems ok, gparted moved inodes and files in the right place
12:28<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: Well, did you shrink the filesystem before shrinking the partition?
12:28<tony_was_taken>but It didnt change the checksum
12:29<mnuhmnuh>tony_was_taken: "fsck /dev/sda7" then say y until done. bon chance.
12:29<tony_was_taken>no, i didnt, i though that gparted was doing everything
12:30<mnuhmnuh>tony_was_taken: did you shrink filesystem before shrinking partition? if not, recover from backups or reinstall.
12:30<petn-randall>Ok, in this case I wouldn't touch anything, put the partition size back to the original, and then shrink the filesystem.
12:30<petn-randall>If you already said yes to fsck, I'd recover from backups.
12:30<tony_was_taken>oh
12:30<tony_was_taken>ok, then
12:31<tony_was_taken>thank you
12:33<tony_was_taken>after saying Yes the debian seemed to start normally
12:35<tony_was_taken>i was using top much space and probably no disk sector on the removed space had file blocks
12:35<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: Hopefully, yes.
12:36<tony_was_taken>now my home is in another partititon, but i didnt touch that After shrinking.
12:37<tony_was_taken>should i resize the partititon and then shrink the fs before shrink ? what is the command to shrink the fs?
12:38<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: No, you shrink the fs first, ideally to the minimum size because you don't trust the partitioning tools how they calculate sizes (1024 vs 1000, and rounding errors), then shrink the partition, then expand the partition to the full partition size.
12:39<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: You can use debsums to verify your system partition.
12:40<tony_was_taken>ok, thanks
12:41<tony_was_taken>if i move the partititon after that, the boot loader will not work properly, right?
12:42<mnuhmnuh>tony_was_taken: i'd fix what you have to working order before thinking of anything else.
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12:43<petn-randall>tony_was_taken: I don't think gparted actually moves any data on the partition, so I'd double check that.
12:45<tony_was_taken>i was thinking to move them at the end of the HD in order to expand the previous partition
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12:59<jhutchins_wk>tony_was_taken: Do you have a backup of everything on the drive?
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12:59<tony_was_taken>yes
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13:38<jhutchins_wk>tony_was_taken: Simplest thing is to just repartition and restore.
13:40<tony_was_taken>what about boot loader if the root dir changes sector
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13:42<jhutchins_wk>!fixgrub
13:42<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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14:01<mnuhmnuh>damn, that looks ugly.
14:04<jhutchins_wk>mnuhmnuh: ?
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14:08<mnuhmnuh>jhutchins_wk: it does! i'd rather just re-install. others may have less wiggle room than me though, so it'd look better to them. i have another drive in my box i can back up to and not touch on re-install, so easy (heh, heh, so far, heh, heh).
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14:23<jhutchins_wk>mnuhmnuh: It's really easy if you just follow the checklist.
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14:25<jelly>if that's ugly, perhaps using linux in current state isn't the right option for you right now, or you need someone to take the role of an admin
14:27<jhutchins_wk>Ugly is trying to figure that process out by yourself without the checklist.
14:27<annadane>also probably less ugly than 20 other hypothetical solutions i can think of
14:28<jelly>eh, you get it after a couple tries
14:28<jelly>I took maybe 5 to come up with basically the same recipe. And then UEFI happened.
14:31<mnuhmnuh>perhaps just my congenital laziness showing yet again.
14:32<annadane>yeah well we're all guilty of that, but the nice thing about debian (stable) is it allows one to be lazy in the first place
14:32<annadane>and not have to fix 25 broken ubuntu/fedora packages
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19:19<wizofe>anyone knows how to convert a debian native to non-native package?
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19:42<bremner>I seem to have broken apt-key on a stretch box, but I'm not sure how. "apt update" wails about "NO_PUBKEY" but I can see the corresponding keys in the output of "apt-key list"
19:42<sarnold>owner? permissions?
19:43<bremner>all owned by root, permissions 644
19:43<sarnold>hrmph. :/ I liked that answer. I had good hopes for it.
19:44<bremner>heh. sorry. /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d has permissions 755
19:53<bremner>possibly related: https://paste.debian.net/1039083/
19:56<sarnold>ohhhhhkay. that's odd. dmesg?
19:56<bremner>nothing new when I re-run the command
19:57<bremner>I moved /root/.gnupg out of the way, just in case
19:59<sarnold>but you don't see any sata errors reported there?
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20:00<bremner>no.
20:01<bremner>if I run gpg directly on the wheezy-foo.gpg in question, it seems fine
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20:03<bremner>ah, got it. So annoying. I added my own pubkey to trusted keyring (because I sign a private repo with it), and all hell broke lose
20:03<bremner>loose, even
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20:06<bremner>blah. It was ascii armoured but called .gpg, and that broke apt-key, I guess. Or maybe just being ascii armoured
20:07<wizofe>if i change my d/s/format to 1.0(native) and run debuild I get "error: source package format '1.0 (non-native)' is not supported"
20:07<wizofe>ideas?
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20:10<sarnold>bremner: OH! aha! thanks for reporting back the fix :)
20:10<sarnold>wizofe: try 3.0 (quilt)
20:10<sarnold>wizofe: you'll probably also need to change the changelog version to include a -1 or similar
20:11<wizofe>sarnold I've changed already to -1 following random words online.
20:12<sarnold>:)
20:12<wizofe>sarnold: dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../fsdiff_0.7.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}
20:13<wizofe>Now, I don't understand how the packaging works and I've read half of the Debian Wiki :) So, if I just tar.gz my directory, sbuild will be happy?
20:13<wizofe>I don't think that's the case. As I understand it's about having two different branches, one with the debian folder, one without etc etc
20:15<sarnold>wizofe: I think tar all but the debian/ directory
20:15<wizofe>sarnold OK,I'll try.
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20:16<sarnold>wizofe: .. and once you get this thing converted, it would probably make a pretty great stackoverflow question/answer of some sort :) I've wondered before how much work it would be to switch types..
20:16<sarnold>you're right, it's pretty poorly documented
20:18<wizofe>the problem is how you start with non-native package? all the debian tools support just native. e.g. sbuild -s, can't run with non-native, or quilt.
20:24<wizofe>i think i did it. thanks for your help sarnold
20:24<sarnold>wizofe: nice!
20:28<wizofe>let's say what lintian on mentors says. it always gives different errors. running it locally with --pedantic gave only that I dont have a CHANGELOG on the root folder :) :)
20:29<wizofe>*see
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