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---Logopened Wed Aug 29 00:00:26 2018
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00:30<sqrt{not}>re-entrant code written entirely in macros, no comments
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01:12<twb>GRARGH. After writing .xpdfrc, it appears to cancel out urlCommand
01:13<twb>So I probably need to just put "include /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc" in my ~/.xpdfrc
01:13<twb>Indeed, the comments in /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc say exactly that
01:14<twb>And when I do *that*, my rebinding of the arrow keys breaks
01:14<twb>Fixed at last
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04:33<twb>can debian run on a chromecast?
04:34<twb>I assume they ship coreboot+gentoo as the OEM install, so the main problem is the GPU
04:35<twb>Ah, Google *claimed* the chromecast ran chromeos (gentoo) but it's actually android (nightmare fuel)
04:40<twb>https://www.xda-developers.com/flashcast-makes-chromecast-rooting-easy/
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04:46<avar>I have two Debian machines on the same arch, using the same exact version of a package, but the object's 'ldd -r' output is different, i.e. they're linked to different things: http://paste.debian.net/1039753/
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05:05<Edhil>avar: dynamic linking is dynamic. Check what libssl and libgnutls packages are installed on each system
05:06<Edhil>then you can use ldconfig to rebuild links
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05:28<lomig>Hi, anyone know if it's possible to prompt the user during a pre install script in a preseeded install ?
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05:54<AciD`>hey guys
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05:57<AciD`>how come whenever I install Debian with a usb key (live or non-live), it inevitably tries to mount the cdrom, instead of just using...the usb key?
05:58<AciD`>you then have to jump through hoops to find the correct device name, and use that instead
05:58<peter1138>Did you create the USB key correctly?
05:59<AciD`>I did not know there was an incorrect way to create a linux usb key ;)
05:59<AciD`>it happens whenever I use either dd, or fancy tools like etcher
06:00<peter1138>dd, cp or cat is correct.
06:00<peter1138>I don't know what etcher is or if it does anything extra to the images.
06:00<peter1138>(Crazy, a whole Electron app for writing USB sticks...)
06:01<peter1138>((55MB of .deb file... oh my))
06:03<AciD`>well, not everybody knows there way around the CLI
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06:12<TotallyNotKim>I got a somewhat broken hdd I'd like to copy with dd, but dd manages to freeze the whole system if it encounters a part it can't read. Rebooting, calculating seek & skip and going further from there works, till the next unreadable part
06:12<TotallyNotKim>is there a way I could get dd to just pad with zero's without freezing?
06:12<peter1138>Have you tried ddrescue?
06:13<TotallyNotKim>nope
06:13<TotallyNotKim>now that ia am thinking about it, I connect the hdd to an external sata -> usb controller. Maybe I should try again directly attached to the mb controller
06:14<TotallyNotKim>ddresuce looks good too, might try that one too
06:15<peter1138>It should handle the read errors better. Skipping the USB adapter may also help.
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06:37<TotallyNotKim>peter1138: it is stuck, but at least doesn't freeze anymore
06:37<TotallyNotKim>im getting rid of the usb
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07:05<TotallyNotKim>looks good
07:05<TotallyNotKim>probably some cheap sata controller in that usb thing
07:05<TotallyNotKim>ata*?
07:05<TotallyNotKim>whatever
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---Logclosed Wed Aug 29 07:27:36 2018
---Logopened Wed Aug 29 07:27:43 2018
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07:54<TotallyNotKim>annnd it froze
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10:56<`lm`>Hi! I just installed Stretch on a dell latitude 7390 and I'm having trouble getting the touchpad button mapping right. By default, single/double/triple-tap work correctly (left/right/middle click), but the left physical button right-clicks and the right physical button middle-clicks.
10:56<`lm`>I've tried changing the button mapping with xinput but it changes the mapping for both tapping and physical buttons
10:56<`lm`>is there a way to change the mapping for just the physical buttons?
10:56<`lm`>using libinput btw
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11:08<mnuhmnuh>`lm`: i vaguely remember needing something like xserver-xorg-input-synaptics at one point to make touchpads work sanely. that was long ago however.
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11:10<`lm`>mnuhmnuh: I'd try that out but I'm not even sure if this is a synaptics touchpad
11:10<`lm`>it's this: https://certification.ubuntu.com/catalog/component/input/5288/input%3ADELL081A%3A00044E%3A120ATouchpad/
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11:28<`lm`>mnuhmnuh: uhhhhhhhh for what it's worth I managed to get things configured more-or-less right by a combination of setting "left-hand" mode, swapping touchpad lrm -> lmr, and then changing the button mapping
11:28<`lm`>but this feels Extremely Wrong
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11:41<`lm`>hmmm, ok, I think the problem is that the driver doesn't actually report a left mouse button at all. evemu-describe shows BTN_RIGHT and BTN_MIDDLE but no BTN_LEFT
11:43<ach>!hello
11:43<dpkg>Hi, ach!
11:43<`lm`>hello ach
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11:48<mnuhmnuh>`lm`: pointer handling on linux is psychotic. i'm left handed. i do "pointer = 3 2 1 ... 9" in ~/.Xmodmap, and it works. but then all gui mouse config dohickies don't; they think i'm right handed (i am, Right handed :-).
11:49<mnuhmnuh>you'd think these things would talk to each other, letting each know what's what, but no.
11:49<`lm`>mnuhmnuh: I think there's a config option in libinput for that kind of thing but it's probably per-mouse-like-device which isn't fun if you have a bunch of them
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11:53<mnuhmnuh>i once horrified a silly tech. support guy by forgetting to swap mouse back to right handed when i was done. he assumed malware had invaded! idiot.
11:58<mnuhmnuh>we should have stuck w mb-1 ... mb-3. instead, win* gave us left-click and right-click, and now we're stuck with madness.
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12:29<mnuhmnuh>man 4 libinput - "libinput is an Xorg input driver based on libinput." well, duh.
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12:41<mnuhmnuh>so, i can use Option "ButtonMapping" "3 2 1 ... 9" in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf and maybe then *everything* will recognize i'm a lefty, no xmodmap required.
12:42<`lm`>mnuhmnuh: try Option "LeftHanded" "on"
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12:43<mnuhmnuh>`lm`: guess i should read the *whole* manpage.
12:43<`lm`>down that path lies madness of its own, though
12:45<mnuhmnuh>`lm`: true. xman doesn't allow cut+paste, nor does pinfo, but stock man does.
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12:50<lostone>hi all, would really appreciate some help with a tricky/weird ssh issue I'm having - pretty much I can connect to some hosts, but it times-out for others. the hosts in question are up and running though (github.com for example)... anyone seen anything like that before? thanks
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12:51<`lm`>lostone: does ssh -vvv <host> reveal anything interesting?
12:52<mnuhmnuh>lostone: lots of people running sshd are sick and tired of script kiddies hammering them, so lots of them throw in waits that kiddies/bots can't handle.
12:54<lostone>lm: not really, it just waits some time after "debug1: Local version string" and then straight "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
12:56<lostone>mnuhmnuh, having this problem with github, not with bitbucket. weird enough, sometimes it works just fine with github as well
12:56<mnuhmnuh>that is odd.
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12:58<mnuhmnuh>maybe timing, as in, it's just really busy at the moment?
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13:08<lostone>sorry guys, phone call...
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13:08<lostone>mnuhmnuh, dunno if that's the case, it's like that most of the times
13:09<lostone>tried other hosts as well and they're fine, I can connect there
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13:12<lostone>ha! just tried from my work laptop and it's the same, must be environmental (as in my stupid isp)
13:14<lostone>...and works fine if I connect my laptop to our office vpn. f**ing great!
13:14<`lm`>mnuhmnuh: by the way, a newer libinput (1.10 vs my 1.6) seems to work right so I think I just need to upgrade that
13:16<mnuhmnuh>lostone: i don't understand why we don't hear of assassinations of isp execs more often.
13:16<lostone>:)))
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13:19<mnuhmnuh>some of their actions (throttling firefighter's connections) ought to be fatal. in a perfect world.
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13:24<mnuhmnuh>`lm`: you're not running stretch then?
13:25<mnuhmnuh>ignore that.
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13:25<mnuhmnuh>libinput10 is 1.6.3-1 here.
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13:47<lostone>`lm` mnuhmnuh : in case you were wondering - it was the "child safe" filter from my ISP, had to manually add 'github.com' in the allowed list. must be something new, have that filter on for more than a year now but this issue only started recently.
13:49<`lm`>lostone: wow that's a new one for me
13:51<mnuhmnuh>lostone: so, we can't blame this on sociopathic isp execs. damn.
13:51<mnuhmnuh>self-inflicted.
13:51<lostone>no, but we can on the network engineers though, why would github.com be on a child-friendly block list in the first place?! :D
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13:52<mnuhmnuh>'cause a net eng. saw something evil.
13:53<lostone>yeah. all that code, goddamn it!
13:53<mnuhmnuh>i would never filter reality from my children, but then, i don't have any. easy for me to say.
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13:55*itd wonders. Did something happen with github recently?
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13:56<mnuhmnuh>maybe someone uploaded (accidently) goatse?
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13:58<lostone>mnuhmnuh: yeah, they were bought by microsoft recently (well, fairly recent)
13:58<mnuhmnuh>lostone: there you go.
13:59<mnuhmnuh>some ms win weenie saw some perl code and freaked out.
14:00<lostone>ha! good one :D
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14:02<mnuhmnuh>and likely not far from the truth too.
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14:24<mnuhmnuh>wouldn't it be better for "ssh_exchange_identification: ..." to say "child safe filter denied." or something? "Connection closed by remote host" is pretty bland/uninformative.
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19:01<mnuhmnuh>augh! my PATH in ~/.bash_profile has stuff i added to it. they're not there, demmit! mate-terminal, login shell enabled/checked. it shouldn't take months to learn of weirdness like this.
19:01<NotLarry>I selected install with speech synthesis (doh) and I found no place to turn it off (after the system is going).
19:02<mnuhmnuh>that should be an option on lightdm login bar.
19:02<NotLarry>mnuhmnuh, I thought the same. I will look again.
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19:19<somiaj>man bash, .bash_profile is only read during a login shell, not interactive shell.
19:20<somiaj>Personally this is my .bash_profile: if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then source "$HOME/.bashrc"; fi
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19:20<somiaj>though I don't have a setup where I want my interactive shells to be different than my login ones.
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20:16<mnuhmnuh>i've been clicking that option on for years and it's always worked as expected.
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20:29<mnuhmnuh>just logged out and back in, with login shell un-checked, still not running my .bash_profile
20:31<lhvf>Hi to all! I've noticed that #debian at OFTC.net now needs authentication, and exclusivity for nicknames. Why this was done? For ensure the security for the Support Channel?
20:34<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: lots and lots of abusers showing up, for whatever reason. freenet too.
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20:52<mnuhmnuh>damn. may be self-inflicted. some bug report suggested "custom command 'env TERM=xterm-256color /bin/bash'"; i suspect it _should_ be bash -i. what's mate-terminal do as default?
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21:14<sarnold>lhvf: five weeks ago the spambot problems were crazy. most channels moved to requiring registration before joining or speaking or both
21:17<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: sarnold: The Matrix.org Client Bridged to OFTC.net then isn't allowed anymore, right? The status of the error trying to access on my Mobile Phone, using Matrix.org Bridge, is not very useful for debug the origin of the problem (Riot Mobile App Client).
21:18<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: don't know what that, but i can add tor is no longer welcome.
21:18<sarnold>lhvf: if you wind up with a nick like lhvf[m] then you'll need to register and verify that nick with nickserv and the website, and then be sure to identify to nickserv when you join
21:27<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: sarnold: Was a little difficult to me access the #debian today with this current used account. I've needed the assistance of Support of OFTC.net.
21:28<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: sarnold: If be more difficult register another nickname (like @lhvf[m]), this will give more troubles, and in respect to my IP, it could still be the same, and I'd be blocked. I'll only try, one day. But @petn-randall needs still to unmute this mutted account, now more complicated account.
21:32<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: it's very easy to register; there's a web page on oftc, and once you login, proving you're not a bot, no trouble afterwards.
21:33<mnuhmnuh>see #oftc if you need help.
21:35<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: And on Android, for Matrix.org Bridge, with this error: Reason: err_needreggednick.
21:36<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: See this → : https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/458
21:36<lhvf>?
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21:37<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: blame the abusers. if you're real, easy to work around.
21:37<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: it's very easy to register; there's a web page on oftc, and once you login, proving you're not a bot, no trouble afterwards.
21:39<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: History: I've been 'mutted' by @petn-randall. And now excluded by the new policies applyied on the OFTC.net. The lhvf[m] is Matrix.org Bridged. I don't know how to handle this cenario properly.
21:46<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: It's the same for Matrix.org Bridge, or a a bit more difficult to register at OFTC.net at this situation? *My another account mutted by the Admin.
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21:49<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: Is it the same or Matrix.org Bridge, or is it a bit more difficult to register at OFTC.net at this situation? *My another account mutted by the Admin (Matrix.org Bridge to OFTC.net).
21:49<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: *same for
21:49<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: (Sorry)
21:50<sarnold>lhvf: login via matrix doing whatever it is you do with matrix. then register the account with nickserv. then go to https://services.oftc.net/ login and verify the account. then re-identify with nickserv.
21:51<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: it's not a lot to ask. register, a one-time operation, and you're good. or, don't use oftc irc. simple.
21:52<sarnold>or don't use matrix.
21:52<blast007>fwiw, I've not seen the chat spam on Freenode in a few days
21:53<sarnold>the spambots appear to be focusing on mozilla irc at the moment
21:55<mnuhmnuh>abusers abuse; email, usenet, the web, ... who knows why? don't care. at least we learn to secure by their abuse.
21:55<lhvf>sarnold: Then, after be excluded, the 'mutted' setting was cleared, and now can I use this account with the Matrix.org Bridge again, without any problems? I was added to #debian via an Bridge provided by some user on "Unofficial Debian Support Channel". Convenience would be use with the Mobile Phone sometimes.
21:56<lhvf>sarnold: Whats the address for OFTC.net? I could access with Riot, using another Server, else the Matrix.org.
21:56<sarnold>lhvf: irc.oftc.net
21:57<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: or irc.debian.org
21:57<sarnold>lhvf: here's the current quiet and ban lists for #debian -- do you see yourself on these lists? http://paste.debian.net/hidden/3df97fc6/
22:00<sarnold>of course matrix may have their own access control mechanisms. you'll have to ask someone who knows matrix about that.
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22:01<lhvf>sarnold: No, I don't see me on this list. Thanks for the url address reference.
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22:15<lhvf>sarnold: mnuhmnuh: I'm several minutes trying to connect on my Phone, and it don't work. Guess I need to register on vector.im this nickname from OFTC.net, so that I could use it on Riot.
22:15<lhvf>sarnold: mnuhmnuh: I'll learn the way for consert this, for stay knowing what is occuring. The link that sarnold passed, is refused (only stays loading on App, without any result). Maybe some register is missing. I'll learn how to fix it, thus can discover what's the solution.
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22:29<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: i can only guess you're making it hard on yourself; prob. is at your end. run an irc client, point it at irc.debian.org, register, shazaam!
22:30<mnuhmnuh>it works from here. if it doesn't for you, you are doing it wrong.
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22:36<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: Is there a Mobile Client with the ability to roll and store old conversations, like Riot.IM does? Then I would switch to this. HexChat-like for Android?
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22:38<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: no idea, never owned a "smart phone", never wanted/needed one. google has an app store, yes?
22:39<sarnold>this might not suck https://quasseldroid.info/
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22:44<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: btw, your prob. has nothing to do with debian or #debian. you should be asking these questions in #oftc
22:46<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: Thanks for the assistance. I'll see our conversations on the log (thegrebs.com) if I needed to view something already passed. Thanks anyway.
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22:48<mnuhmnuh>thegrebs.com; yet another wtf is that and how is it related?
22:48<mnuhmnuh>rhetorical, ignore.
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22:48<sarnold>mike logs a ton of stuff
22:48<annadane>hi mom!
22:52<dvs>mom is offtoic here!!! ;-)
22:52<aidalgol>darn, they're gone. I was going to tell them to go ask in the IRC Matrix bridge channel on matrix.
22:53<annadane>mom/stable,stable 0.5.1-3 all
22:53<annadane> Dynamically manage system resources on virtualization hosts
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23:00<lhvf>sarnold: I'm with problems on my connection, or in the quality of the cable. Just for note: For don't have to install anything on my Debian (EOL), I'm using the WebChat: https://webchat.oftc.net/
23:05<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: And I like to revisit old conversations when needed. If I had the HexChat, logs are a feature on this App. But this App isn't present on Wheezy (I still not updated the Debian);
23:05<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: only will do that after some Thumb Drive Tests, for ensure the stability of Stretch and the stability newer Kernel for my Graphic Card.
23:06<lhvf>*newer Kernels.
23:07<lhvf>That conversation about GPU Lockups. I feel fear to update, and, by many reasons the system crash. Kernels 3.7+ has this problems for my GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a.
23:09<lhvf>Will test Stretch firstly on Thumb Drives (Classe 10 or USB 3.0), and the system stay light, flash and stable, and if the result be good, I'll install it to the PC, but next year in my intentions.
23:10<mnuhmnuh>lhvf: what is there about "Debian Stable" that you don't understand?
23:10<lhvf>Like I'd do with Ubuntu, because it is Debian Unstable based. The problem, many times, is the DE. The Kernel, one hour will be fixed.
23:12<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: I'll test Stretch on a Thumb drive, using or MultiBootUSB or MultiSystem. I don't have any doubts. I was preocupated with problems on GNOME 3.4, but today I got it fixed (problems with idle time on gnome-screensaver -- Gsettings command solved this).
23:13<mnuhmnuh>next year, buster will be stable, and stretch will be oldstable. bite the bullet so we can help you with current debian.
23:15<lhvf>mnuhmnuh: I'll have to encounter another distribution that applyied a patch, in the same Kernel of the same version (openSUSE, Fedora etc..). My father will shutdown the PC. Thanks. Tomorrow I'll be back. He is enforcing this.
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23:15<lhvf>For External DVD eg. .
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