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06:00<TristanBomb>Occasionally, something will happen on my system (usually an application opens), and my resolution is forcibly lowered - and it can't be changed back to the monitor's native resolution in the display settings or via xrandr. This also kills the sound. I suspect this is because something caused an error with the graphics drivers, and X engaged in some sort of fallback. Is there a way to restore full functionality without restarting X or
06:00<TristanBomb> GNOME?
06:01<TristanBomb>I can't find anything useful on the subject, since all of the results are for users whose system's default resolution is too low (usually because they haven't installed drivers). That's not the case here - my resolution is perfectly fine on startup.
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06:30<at0m>TristanBomb: look at gnome's settings for desktop resolution - if they're still set correctly maybe force them down then back up again in size? otherwise, xrandr.. i occasionally have the same, say a game forces a resolution on start then doesnt restore on quit
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06:33<TristanBomb>They weren't set correctly, and the proper resolution (1920x1080) isn't even in the list anymore. As I mentioned, xrandr fails to set to 1920x1080, though it can with other resolutions.
06:35<at0m>TristanBomb: hmm, maybe the display failed to communicate its possible resolutions via gpu/..? turn it off and on again, so EDID (Extended Display Identification Data) gets sent again? if that fails, disconnect then reconnect the display?
06:36<at0m>after that, i think xrandr will accept the 1080p.
06:37<TristanBomb>at0m: Aye, that worked. Audio's back too. Thanks!
06:37<at0m>if this happens often, there's a way to override/spoof the EDID, but you'll need to investigate further
06:38<TristanBomb>It's uncommon, butt it does happen, so it's nice to know that it's pretty easy to fix
06:38<TristanBomb>*but... oops :P
06:38<at0m>probably dont want to go over this 10x a day, so depends on how often this happens
06:39<TristanBomb>I only encounter it once every few weeks, if that
06:39<at0m>ah, not too bad then
06:39<at0m>TristanBomb: and how did you fix this? power cycle of the monitor? or cable replug?
06:40<TristanBomb>Actually, I don't know :P I tried unplugging, checked the GNOME settings (they didn't change), then did a power cycle. GNOME settings still didn't change, so I used xrandr
06:41<TristanBomb>The application that caused this in the first place isn't doing it again, so I can't check
06:41<at0m>reason i asked is cos i dont know if the display, even when powered off and then on, sends the EDID, or only on re-connect
06:41<at0m>power cycle is often easier than fiddling with cables
06:42<TristanBomb>In my case, it's not really a big difference
06:42<TristanBomb>I accidentally unplug my monitor more often than this happens lol
06:42<at0m>=)
06:42<TristanBomb>If it was VGA or something it would be a colossal pain, granted
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06:50<cppmonkey>Hey, Im running stretch and I want SNMPD to allow smuxpeer, but "-I -smux" keep appearing in the daemon details. I'd removed it from the default file and restarted the daemon... any ideas? Believe it needs recompiling with an extra option?? Just seems odd it won't start without the "-I -smux"
06:51<grawity>systemctl daemon-reload
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06:54<cppmonkey>The systems been rebooted since the snmp option was removed from /etc/default/snmpd
06:55<cppmonkey>I've just given that a try and restarted the service
06:56<cppmonkey>"Warning: Unknown token: smuxpeer."
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07:07<BCMM>i wondered if i could get some help with the wiki. i've got a problem with the instructions on https://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel/GitBisect but i'm not really sure how to go about correcting them. specifically, it tells me to use fakeroot, but on my machine, fakeroot invocation seems to be automatic
07:08<BCMM>(meaning that it works fine without, but if i follow the wiki instructions it fails because nested fakeroot isn't supported)
07:09<BCMM>but i don't know if this is due to a change in the kernel make file or a change in dpkg-dev, and i don't have wiki access
07:09<BCMM>(and if i can get wiki access, i don't want to change it without noting that users on old versions of *something* presumably still need the fakeroot command)
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08:51<pdo_fn14>Any related apt bug about this: https://imgur.com/a/OiZ2Ufs ?
08:52<pdo_fn14>It's quite strange, because it's fixed on sid.
08:52*pdo_fn14 (Tested sid in docker image)
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09:59<mnuhmnuh>"apt edit-sources"? why's that necessary? manpage says it's a work in progress (in stable). instead, open a terminal, and "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list"
10:01<mnuhmnuh>and i can't see anything at that imgur link in w3m, so imgur sucks.
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10:08<abrotman>Maybe it works like visudo, where it checks syntax .. does vi do that?
10:10<cc>vim has syntax for sources file
10:10<cc>if you have syntax hl on
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10:40<mnuhmnuh>that imgur link says (vim) it's complaining of attempts to use features not supported. could this be vim vs. vim-tiny vs. vim-full ...?
10:41<mnuhmnuh>and when i say vi in linux, i assume everybody would assume i mean vim. :-)
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11:00<mnuhmnuh>now i see vim-full is no longer there. i have vim-tiny. installing vim. :-)
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11:10<mnuhmnuh>good grief; neovim: "... focused on modern code and features, rather than running in legacy environments." what does that mean?!? gui (gvim) vs. *term?
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11:58<jelly>mnuhmnuh: it meant they might care less about performance on your DEC VT serial terminal
11:59<jelly>or being able to build the code on Ultrix with gcc 3.3
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12:09<mnuhmnuh>jelly: as i remember it, vms' edt (and even eve) on my vt100 (mid-'70s) ran just as snappily as vim in my xterm does today. however, i can well understand wanting to ditch code intended to support hardware nobody would use today.
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13:23<jimpop>is there a way to force "apt-get install <package>" to not prompt to overwrite an existing <package> config file?
13:25<mnuhmnuh>jimpop: why would you want that?!? maintainer's file clobbers your locally configged changes? noooooo!
13:29<jimpop>i want to push rsyslog.conf to a server and then install rsyslogd. If i do it in that order I don't end up with 20 other log files that have to be deleted (mail.error, mail.debug, news, messages, etc, etc. etc.)
13:30<jimpop>yes i know i could build my own rsyslog.deb with my own custom files... but that's overkill for this
13:30<jimpop>i want to script the push of rsyslog to a server(s) and not have to deal with the manual prompt
13:33<mnuhmnuh>how about install rsyslog then scp configs and SIGHUP rsyslogd
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13:42<jimpop>when rsyslog installs it gets started and creates ~20 log files in /var/log
13:42<jimpop>so even after sighub those log files would remain
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13:45<mnuhmnuh>your script could blow them away.
13:46<itd>jimpop: mask the (non-existent) service, install the package, configure the service, unmask the service, start the service?
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13:52<jimpop>itd: ok, thanks. Looks like I have some reading to do on that.
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16:57<Synthea>Why debian hasn't that problem but raspbian yes? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14635999/jna-native-support-com-sun-jna-linux-arm-libjnidispatch-so-not-found-in-resou
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16:58<danopa>Synthea: shouldn't you ask the raspbian devs?
16:58<Synthea>Already done
16:59<danopa>Synthea: they should know what they changed
16:59<Synthea>The package seems the same
16:59<Synthea>*packages
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18:04<mnuhmnuh>shoot devops.
18:04<mnuhmnuh>next.
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18:56<mnuhmnuh>itd: i'll bet there's a lot of slackware types who would think going your maskinstallconfigureunmask (researchmanpagewebdocswebsearch...) proc. is by far the wrong way compared to scriptblowawayfiles way.
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20:53<blast007>if you have a support question regarding Debian Linux, best to just ask and wait for a response
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23:05-!-}ls{ is "nobody" on #debian-nginx #debian-welcome #debian-localgroups #debian-lan #debian-kde #debian-gis #debian-django #debian #osm-de
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---Logclosed Tue Sep 04 00:00:35 2018