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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-10-09

---Logopened Tue Oct 09 00:00:17 2018
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00:05<ricardo>Buenas noches desde rosario
00:05<annadane>!es
00:05<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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00:33<mario>can an iso file be a virus?
00:33<annadane>well sure, but viruses don't affect linux the same way
00:33<annadane>basically any file can be a virus
00:34<mario>can it be active before I put it into a vm?
00:34<annadane>i don't know?
00:34<annadane>it's a very general question
00:34<mario>ok)
00:35<mario>just curious
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00:37<mario>so viruses can be in pinterest pics or google/duckgo image search and downloaded in cache??
00:38<annadane>i mean this isn't really a debian question
00:38<annadane>are you trying to infect someone, we don't really answer questions like that and yes because partially they're off topic anyway
00:39<annadane>also i am away from keyboard for like 20 minutes
00:39<mario>alright
00:39<mario>just being curouse
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01:06<ach>!mario
01:06<dpkg>mario is probably the main character in Super Mario Bros.
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01:45<ach>!hello
01:45<dpkg>Hi, ach!
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02:29<spande>I installed debian 9 on a laptop some time ago, a fairly standard install except for some hairy windows booting workaround. Now getting back to it, I want to connect with it from debian. I'm a bit confused about the interface. ifconfig shows docker0. lspci shows I have an intel corporation wireless 7265 (rev 61).
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02:30<ach>!ap
02:30<spande>I want to have a wlan0 up and running. What are the options forward?
02:31<jm_>!wifi
02:31<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
02:31<jm_>follow the wiki
02:32*spande reads wiki
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02:36<spande>okay, gotta add non-free repo to get iwlwifi
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04:18<Cerebral>Hello.
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04:18<Cerebral>Is Debian Stable considered half-rolling?
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04:20<Anarka>Cerebral: nope
04:20<Anarka>it only gets security updates
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04:28<Cerebral>Anarka: So the fact it does needs new sources every couple of years doesnt make it half-rolling?
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05:28<PTheunissen>Can anyone please assist or direct me in the right direction on the following:
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05:32<PTheunissen>We have recently upgraded our fleet of servers from Jessie 3.16 to Jessie 4.9 ( Debian 4.9.110-3+deb9u4~deb8u1 ) and are now running into unpredictable IO problems on our servers. Server load would spike massively but top would so show hardly any cpu load. iotop would show processes with 99% usage, but hardly any read/writes happening. memory o
05:32<PTheunissen>n the servers are sufficient and not running out. While in this state there is not much we can do except to reboot the servers. This behavior started about 3 - 6 days affter the new kernel was applied.
05:33<PTheunissen>Has anyone experienced similar problems or that can direct me to resources on the topic?
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05:44<jm_>PTheunissen: maybe try some i/o related traces from https://github.com/iovisor/bcc, i.e. biolatency biotop biosnoop (or fs specific ones perhaps)
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05:52<PTheunissen>thanks for the suggestion jm_ - we can definitely try to debug more. Im trying to establish if there is a known issue with IO when upgrading to 4.9 or if this is something specific to our setup
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06:01<jm_>PTheunissen: slow IO can result in huge load numbers, hence my suggestion - anything in logs when it happens?
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06:43<Cerebral>Hello.
06:43<Cerebral>Why isn't Firefox-ESR 60 in buster?
06:44<arto>Cerebral: testing does not get security updates
06:44<arto>!Debian-next
06:44<dpkg>#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
06:45<Cerebral>arto: I wanna use Testing as my everyday OS.
06:45<Cerebral>Shall i add security repo of stable?
06:45<arto>Cerebral: that's your choice
06:46<arto>Cerebral: they do not work in testing
06:47<Cerebral>I see.
06:48<arto>Cerebral: testing has newer programs than stable
06:48<Cerebral>I know thats why i want testing.
06:48<Cerebral>I mean i could use backports i guess
06:49<arto>Cerebral: yeap, but that's same time the reason why security updates do not work
06:49<arto>Cerebral: not every package has backport version
06:50<Cerebral>I see.
06:50<arto>Cerebral: there is for example Mint, which has rolling relaese, if that's what you want
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06:50<Cerebral>The apps i mostly use do though so idk.
06:50<Cerebral>Nah.I could just pin the testing repo no?
06:51<arto>Cerebral: those are the facts, do what you want
06:51<Cerebral>If backports doesn't have the thing i want.
06:51<Cerebral>Ye i see.
06:51<arto>Cerebral: mixing testing and stable, that's the worst option
06:51<Cerebral>Probably gonna pin the testing repo.Sounds ok.
06:51<Cerebral>How come?
06:51<arto>Cerebral: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
06:53<arto>Cerebral: I've been trying to tell you testing has newer programs, libraries, etc. mixing produces conflict, which library version to use
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06:54<arto>Cerebral: it would be FrankenDebian, as mentioned in the link I gave
06:54<nuovolnx>After installing pulseaudio in debian 9.5, I modify the volume values in alsamixer. When the PC is restarted, alsamixer does not maintain the configuration. Is there a particular configuration for pulseaudio?
06:54<arto>nuovolnx: what DE?
06:54<nuovolnx>arto, mate
06:55<arto>nuovolnx: I don't know mate, but XFCE has pulseaudio apllet in panel, volume can be adjusted there
06:55<nuovolnx>arto, I can install this applet on mate?
06:56<Cerebral>arto: I see.So if i want security updates Stable is a must..
06:56<jm_>there's always pavucontrol
06:56<arto>Cerebral: yes
06:57<jm_>Cerebral: in some cases you can also try to install it from sid
06:57<jm_>just make sure to stop if it wants to upgrade too many packages
06:57<Cerebral>arto: But in a stackexchange answer i noticed this: deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
06:57<Cerebral>The hell is that?
06:58<arto>Cerebral: it's the package maintainers responsiblity to aply security updates, they are slower than stable security team
06:58<Cerebral>jm_: I see.
06:59<blast007>Cerebral: that's proably someone that just swapped 'stretch' for 'testing' in their file.
06:59<arto>jm_: that's risky bisnes, would not recommend for novice
06:59<Cerebral>arto: So there are testing security updates?
06:59<blast007>no
06:59<arto>Cerebral: you can hope and pray
06:59<Cerebral>blast007: Ya looks like it tbh
06:59<jm_>arto: in general yes, but probably OK just for firefox
07:00<Cerebral>arto: That answer was....scary.\
07:00<jm_>or just grab it from mozilla, or their snap package, but that's a bit more painful to use
07:00<arto>jm_: I can agree to that
07:00<blast007>Cerebral: are you basing that off the stackexchange post, or on what is in the actual mirrors?
07:01<Cerebral>The first one.
07:02<blast007>Cerebral: do you see any packages listed here? http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
07:03<Cerebral>It asks to dl something?
07:04<blast007>so download it and zcat it or something - but spoiler alert, there isn't anything inside
07:04<blast007>unlike the stretch one, which does have packages listed
07:04<Cerebral>Ah.BTW what does that mean?
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07:05<blast007>so no, there are no security updates for testing
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07:05<Cerebral>Ah blast007
07:06<Cerebral>Thanks people blast007 jm_ arto
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07:06<jm_>no problem
07:07<arto>Cerebral: you are welcome
07:07<Cerebral>One last question.
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07:08<Cerebral>I want to install FF Quantum which is in Sid.Now i;ve installed it from theior website(the tar file or what is it)
07:09<bremner>quantum is in stable now also.
07:09<Cerebral>To install from Sid i just add the repo and add APT::Default-Release "stretch"; in apt.conf?
07:09<arto>bremner: he is using testing
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07:09<bremner>ok.
07:09<bremner>so why are we talking about it here?
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07:10<Cerebral>arto: No i am using Stretch.I was just thinking of going to testing.
07:10<arto>Cerebral: you said something else before
07:10<Cerebral>And Quantum is not in Stable afaik?
07:11<Cerebral>arto: Misunderstood.
07:11<jm_>Cerebral: no, sid and stretch don't mix well, for stretch simply use the firefox-esr package
07:11<likcoras>,v firefox-esr
07:11<judd>Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; wheezy-security: 52.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 52.9.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 52.9.0esr-1; stretch-proposed-updates: 60.2.2esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 60.2.2esr-1~deb9u1; sid: 60.2.2esr-1
07:11<likcoras>huh.
07:12<jm_>in the past mozilla.debian.net helped for this exact case :)
07:12<Cerebral>Ya ESR is based on Quantum.
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07:22<Cerebral>Ok thanks again people
07:22<_kab>I'm having issues preseeding partman with raid1 and lvm
07:23<_kab>The installation aborts half way through the setup and what has been done looks nothing like what I configured in the preseed
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07:23<_kab>https://pastebin.com/i9nfnhnc
07:23<_kab>Does anyone have any idea what I'm missing?
07:24<_kab>The installer's error messages are crpytic, e.g. it claims it can't find sda2 even though it's clearly there
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07:25<_kab>Also I get a swap partition despite not having configured one at all
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07:28<test>hello guys
07:29<arto>hello test
07:29<Cerebral>Why isnt FF Quantum in Stable or Testing?
07:30<test>is anyone hacking expert here
07:31<petn-randall>test: Yes
07:31<petn-randall>Cerebral: In stable and testing you'll only ever find Firefox ESR.
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07:32<Cerebral>Why though?
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07:33<test>great, i would like to learn in deep.. do you something online... that i can refer
07:33<test>do you have something online
07:33<petn-randall>Cerebral: It has to do with the support cycle. Firefox regular is only supported for a couple of weeks by upstream. That's far too short for the life cycle of stable.
07:33<petn-randall>test: Yes, swing with the arms, and you'll cut down the tree in no time.
07:34<Cerebral>petn-randall: Ah i see.
07:34<test>oh yeah
07:35<petn-randall>Cerebral: Even ESR is not supported long enough for stable, as stretch recently got an update from ESR 52 to ESR 60.
07:36<test>petn-randall: i search many sites but no luck
07:37<Cerebral>I see.
07:37<petn-randall>test: You're also failing to find the wrong channels, too. Have you had a look at the topic yet?
07:37<petn-randall>*right
07:38<test>ohh yeah man
07:38<test>in the wrong direction
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07:39<petn-randall>!who hacked you
07:39<dpkg>I'm self-hacked, petn-randall
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07:48<Cerebral>petn-randall: After enabling multiarch with dpkg shouldnt some packages be install with dist-upgrade?
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07:52<petn-randall>Cerebral: No, why?
07:55<Cerebral>I just remember i did some years ago,in a Debian derivative though i think,and dist-upgrade installed some new packages.
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08:06<Cerebral>Thanks petn-randall
08:08<petn-randall>Cerebral: You're welcome. It might have been back when there was the package "ia32-libs", but I don't recall if that ever was in any Debian release.
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08:12<itd>judd versions ia32-libs
08:12<judd>Package: ia32-libs on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:0.4
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08:14<itd>time flies
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08:30<Guest93>salut
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09:17<cookins>Hi
09:17<arto>hi cookins
09:17<cookins>Anybody can help me a bit with webmin?
09:18<cookins>Just a bit need of assistance
09:18<arto>cookins: never used, but ask
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09:20<cookins>I got problem with default webpage going on 80 port.. it was located on var/www/html when I installed Apache and now i deleted this folder and need so default page is on var/www/test, there is inside index.php and php installed
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09:20<cookins>But it keeps telling me there no page to show
09:23<arto>cookins: I think that's more apache problem, to change default page:
09:24<arto>cookins: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19322345/how-do-i-change-the-default-index-page-in-apache
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10:18<Blacker47>cookins, check also the apache logs. maybe apache daemon have no rights to read the index.php or to change to the directory.
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10:22<archer>I have a debian 7.11 only able to run off command line from a chroot; I cannot get systemd to install using aptitude. Are there alternatives to systemd I can use to enable / disable services I would like to have?
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10:22<arto>archer: still fighting with chroot?
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10:23<archer>arto: well, aptitude has to be spelled out still among other things, xephyr didnt give me a display other than a black screen and a heads up on how to activate / deactivate use of mouse and keyboard.
10:24<arto>archer: I have no more to say, bremner and nyov yesterday told very hevy reasons not to use chroot
10:24<archer>I am able to access internet which is a +
10:25<archer>arto: everyone says not to because theyre smart and dont want to negatively impact their host during configuration which is a non issue to me, i have a live boot ready to rock and ill do it as many times as it takes
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10:26<archer>Maybe, help would be a good few commands to run to see if things are in line, or if you or anyone has experience with display share that would be nice as well.
10:26<themill>There are merits in starting with a supported release, btw
10:27<archer>themill: my linux terminology is nearly nonexistent; i've only been running a linux distro as a primary OS for a little over a month
10:27<themill>Picking a release that lost security support 2 years ago isn't the best plan, then
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10:28<arto>archer: I generally stop helping ppl when they are going to shoot their own leg
10:28<archer>themill: Maybe that is causing some of the issues, I used the debian chroot wiki and thought it was the 9.5 that "installed" but what displays when i check is 7.11
10:29<Anarka>was even there systemd in 7 ?
10:29<archer>Anarka: i dont have it lol so i assume no
10:30<itd>archer: https://wiki.debian.org/chroot ?
10:30<arto>Anarka: if I remember right, there was not
10:30<archer>itd: yes, among that and the gentoo one it got the command line to open up
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10:32<archer>i was having proc/mount issues so i mounted (i believe) using the LFS book but again, i have no idea of how to check on any of this
10:32<archer>themill: is it possible to upgrade from 7.11 to 9.5 via command line?
10:33<itd>archer: wheezy is Debian 7, 9 is stretch. If you want 9 you need to replace some words on that page.
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10:33<archer>itd: well, thats nice to know :) no wonder i thought 1 thing and got the other lol ty
10:34<Anarka>you should be able to install a stetch chroot, btw just curious why do you need a chroot ?
10:34<archer>when i started i just wanted to work out of it as to not have any adverse effects on my host while i learn
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10:35<themill>yeah, so you don't want a chroot
10:35<archer>now, i want to use it to do that and eventually create a LFS, learn what i can self teach on linux
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10:36<itd>archer: Step 1: listen to advice.
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10:39<archer>themill: would you mind to explain?
10:39<blast007>archer: why are you not using a virtual machine?
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10:41<archer>blast007: i could use a virtual machine, but i would literally be doing exactly what im doing right now but inside a vm that takes resources from my host
10:41<blast007>but it would actually isolate what you're doing from your host
10:42<archer>everything i've read suggests that a chroot is completely autonomous from the host (respecting it being a directory) unless otherwise specified
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10:42<blast007>for the filesystem, mostly
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10:44<archer>blast007: am i able to build a chroot in vm and use it from my host?
10:44<archer>not through the vm
10:44<blast007>why would you need a chroot in a VM?
10:45<blast007>you would just install whatever OS you want in the VM and mess around with it there
10:45<blast007>either via a graphical session, a serial console, or SSH
10:46<archer>blast007: i am doing this to learn
10:46<blast007>and
10:46<blast007>and?*
10:47<archer>and what i want to learn has nothing to do with a vm unless i use a vm to waste my resources to simply do exactly what im doing now but the endstate i cant use in my host
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10:48<blast007>a chroot and a VM don't do the same thing, but whatever. doesn't sound like we're gonna change your mind.
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10:49<archer>blast007: as it sits right now my chroot does exactly what i want minus a graphical display
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11:02<itd>archer: What is your host?
11:03<archer>xfce mint
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11:06<itd>archer: Okay ... no idea if Mint supports this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-nspawn
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11:07<archer>itd: wow thanks! this is why i am using chroot https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/c/chroot.htm
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11:10<archer>this seems to be the exact same thing, but with less config by "spawning" a complete virtualization of the host
11:10<archer>pretty neat
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12:34<stephan_>hi, i wonder what the debian way for jdk11 would become?
12:34<stephan_>since there might be a major version every 6 month
12:35<stephan_>and currently i cannot figure out a good way to get openjdk 11 on debian 9
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12:39<stephan_>maybe i found it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2017/11/msg00028.html
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13:04<bloobier>Hi I just installed Debian but now windows can not load
13:04<bloobier>Says boot configuration data is missing
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13:08<sqrt{not}>bloobier: You might be able to fix that if you get your hands on a "Windows 7 Rescue Disk" CD, and a CD reader to boot that rescue disk.
13:08<bloobier>Yikes
13:08<sqrt{not}>bloobier: and if you do get it working again, read about disabling Windows "fast boot"
13:08<bloobier>So otherwise no right
13:09<bloobier>Well are there some good packages to install in the meantime because I currently have a very basic installation
13:09<sqrt{not}>well, that's one method that I have personnally seen to work, there are probably others.
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13:10<bloobier>Ok, thank you
13:11<sqrt{not}>bloobier: anybody with a working windows 10 can create such a rescue disk for you....
13:11<bloobier>Alright cool
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13:13<mnuhmnuh>bloobier: look for hirens boot cd. it'll fix win10 at least.
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13:14<psyndrome>hi
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13:15<ach>!win 10
13:15<dpkg>Congratulations, 10! You have won a one way ticket to Baghdad!
13:15<mnuhmnuh>sqrt{not}: thanks, didn't know that. don't know win*.
13:15<ach>kill it at the logo to come repair options.
13:16<psyndrome>Im getting some strange msg in the terminal
13:16<ach>?
13:16<ach>!meh
13:16<dpkg>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meh&f=1
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13:16<psyndrome>Possible missing firmware and repeat itself multiple times for different locations or something
13:17<petn-randall>psyndrome: Can you share that with us on https://paste.debian.net?
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13:18<archer>petn-randall: https://pastebin.com/PckvaQx6 how to :)
13:18<mnuhmnuh>psyndrome: is anything not working? do aptitude search firmware and decide if you want any.
13:19<bloobier>ok I will try putting that on a flash drive and booting from it
13:19<mnuhmnuh>psyndrome: you may need contrib and non-free in sources.list
13:19<bloobier>If I recover my windows system what will happen to my existing Debian system
13:20<psyndrome>I just reinstall the system and i added 32 bit architecture and i upgraded thats all
13:20<mnuhmnuh>bloobier: what controls boot? grub?
13:20<bloobier>Right now grub
13:20<ach>use grub boot the old
13:21<ach>> psyndrome
13:21<mnuhmnuh>fixing win should have no effect on grub & linux.
13:21<bloobier>It didn’t even give windows 10 option though only windows recovery
13:21<bloobier>I wonder if I do the installer again maybe there was something I did wrong with that
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13:22<mnuhmnuh>install often. you learn more each time.
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13:23<psyndrome>If i add non free contrib do i need to do anything else because i went to a site which generate some lists and says atention blabla
13:23<ach>!paste
13:23<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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13:25<mnuhmnuh>apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install $firmware # IFF you think they'd be welcome.
13:25<petn-randall>archer: What are you sending me? I don't recall talking to you yet.
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13:27<archer>trying to figure this xorg thing out to give a display to a chroot
13:27<archer>thought maybe you could help
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13:29<sqrt{not}>mnuhmnuh: learning about dual boot only by necessity for wife's work situation, trial/error. not personally a fan of M$ products
13:31<mnuhmnuh>archer: that's where X has always excelled. from a small box/terminal/ssh, tell a honking big & powerful box to run &app there, displaying gui interface here.
13:31<archer>mnuhmnuh: music to my ears
13:31<petn-randall>archer: Then I recommend asking the channel instead of picking random people.
13:32<archer>mnuhmnuh: my problem is, 100% dont know what im doing let alone how i created this chroot in the first place
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13:33<psyndrome>Is this shroot was something important to boot windows?
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13:34<mnuhmnuh>archer: well, there's your problem. see the wiki to get intro'd, and get debian-handbook and debian-reference (apt-get ...).
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13:34<archer>Does anyone know how to enable display to a chroot from host machine + enable it in the chroot?
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13:35<mnuhmnuh>archer: maybe #debian-welcome
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13:35<archer>mnuhmnuh: i've already built the chroot, i just need to open the sockets to the display
13:36<psyndrome>Should i follow this?
13:36<psyndrome>https://paste.debian.net/1046536/
13:36<psyndrome>after i add non free contrib
13:38<mnuhmnuh>dunno why dirmngr, but sure, do that.
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13:39<mnuhmnuh>sources.list --> paste.d.o if you want verification.
13:39<mnuhmnuh>pdn, oops.
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13:40<psyndrome>I have no idea i just dont want to break this sensitive system again :D
13:41<mnuhmnuh>ah: GNU privacy guard (dirmngr).
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13:43<maxrazer>So, from what I remember is that about 75% of corporations that use Debian are small to medium sized businesses with 50% being small <10 people for example.
13:44<maxrazer>Then the large corporations like to use Redhat because it essentially gives a corporate liability with the contract.
13:45<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: and support. they employ linux devs.
13:46<maxrazer>I do find it hard to believe Debian even without the contract and liability insurance can fix bugs or compete with Red Hat, but I don't know from experience.
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13:47<maxrazer>I find it hard to understand how a company would choose to or go with trusting their own sys admins and use debian rather than relying on their sys admins plus a corporations backing them up.
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13:48<petn-randall>maxrazer: It's probabl because support with Redhat costs a bunch of money.
13:48<maxrazer>petn-randall, That would explain it. I don't know how much it costs though.
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13:49<maxrazer>I kind of know though. I used to do contract renewals for maintenance support contracts and approve invoices though.
13:50<maxrazer>Perhaps environments that are productuion and real-time would rely on redhat more. Wheras development environments would be more likely to use Debian.
13:51<maxrazer>That would seem to give a better trade off for the value.
13:52<maxrazer>petn-randall, Do you work as a sys admin with Debian?
13:52<petn-randall>maxrazer: yes
13:53<maxrazer>petn-randall, Ah, and is it a small business and are they used more for internal purposes rather than real-time customer services?
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13:56<psyndrome>this synaptic manager is so helpful
13:57<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: last i heard, nasa used debian.
13:57<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, Ok, that is interesting as it is a big organization. However, what type of use is of great significance.
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13:58<maxrazer>Just need to crunch a bunch of numbers for example, use Debian.
13:58<maxrazer>If you have a bank transaction system that loses 1 million dollars every second it is down then maybe Redhat. At least in theory.
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13:58<petn-randall>maxrazer: Different companies, all small to medium enterprises.
13:59<petn-randall>maxrazer: for internal and internet facing applications.
13:59<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: last big corp. gig i was on, in-house geeks had deved a system on debian. corporate moved forward (?) with rhel. meh.
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14:01<mnuhmnuh>it worked, sure, but why?
14:01<mnuhmnuh>corps.
14:02<petn-randall>There are also several companies that give consulting/support around Debian, but they're nowhere as huge as Redhat. Which is why most large companies go with RH.
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14:04<maxrazer>petn-randall, Yeah, I've researched such consulting companies. I see nothing that stands out. I think the whole point is to have an internal support with Debian.
14:04<maxrazer>Then the sys admin leans on Debian community for additional support if needed, and perhaps email out a bug that might need to be fixed.
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14:09<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: remember too, we've got all that cannon fodder out on the front lines running *buntu. four year old *buntu fixes are mentioned here from time to time.
14:10<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, Are you saying that Debian has to deal with Ubuntu problems because Debian is upstream?
14:11<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: no, debian benefits from *buntu running into it first and documenting it.
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14:12<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, Ah, documenting the errors and then they can be fixed in Debian if that is where they originated? How is that information passed back to Debian?
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14:13<mnuhmnuh>canonical employs linux devs, they know what they're doing. usually.
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14:15<t1ze>privet
14:15<maxrazer>Do you Debian sys admins work as a general purpose IT person doing more than Debian system administration?
14:15<t1ze>yes
14:16<maxrazer>t1ze, What other sort of things?
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14:18<t1ze>Кто нибудь разговариваети на русском языке
14:19<annadane>!ru
14:19<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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14:22<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: i was re-working a 1600 line decade old ksh script, trying to upgrade ram in a hacmp server (failed, no outage in 1.5 a. trying) and bitching at vendors' tech support for failed features.
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14:24<mnuhmnuh>and re-working the debian built system on rhel. :-P
14:24<annadane>ugh, that factoid is wrong
14:25<annadane>dpkg, no, ru is <reply> Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.oftc.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
14:25<dpkg>okay, annadane
14:26<annadane>t1ze, #debian-russian on oftc (this network) - #debian-russian в этой сети
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14:28<maxrazer>Is there a list of debian channels by language?
14:29<maxrazer>Is there a Debian Deutsch?
14:29<annadane>not officially but if that one is on oftc it makes sense to search the same network for related channels, i don't remember how you can view it as a command line
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14:29<annadane>if you have hexchat then i know how
14:29<maxrazer>I was just looking through a channel list with hexchat searching for debian.
14:29<annadane>deutsch is... german or dutch?
14:30<maxrazer>Deutsch is German.
14:30<annadane>!de
14:30<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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14:30<maxrazer>Ah, I tried Debian-de, not debian.de
14:31<mnuhmnuh>https://wiki.debian.org/IRC#Debian_IRC_channels
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14:33<maxrazer>Good irc links, thanks.
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14:34<mnuhmnuh>yeah, makes me want to lurk in #debian-au. :-)
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14:35<psyndrome>Done i reached to the point before i break the system
14:36<archer>psyndrome: congrats
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14:37<psyndrome>Thank you and thank you for the help
14:38<archer>psyndrome: i wish i helped, im lost myself in a chroot haha
14:38<mnuhmnuh>'swat we do.
14:40<mnuhmnuh>lots quicker than rhel support.
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14:49<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, What exactly is faster than rhel support?
14:49<mnuhmnuh>this.
14:49<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, The IRC channel support?
14:50<mnuhmnuh>free too.
14:50<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, I know there is an email distro too, but maybe for bugs, not sure.
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14:51<mnuhmnuh>reportbug is always welcome.
14:51<mnuhmnuh>see tracker.debian.org for package bugs, maybe update there.
14:52<maxrazer>What about the forums for support? http://forums.debian.net/
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14:53<mnuhmnuh>i was addicted to debian-user mailing list for a long time.
14:53<mnuhmnuh>very helpful.
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14:54<psyndrome>I like instant communication
14:56<maxrazer>psyndrome, I think I do too. Forums and email are good for some things.
14:56<maxrazer>How slow is RHEL support?
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14:58<mnuhmnuh>i've never needed to use their tech support; dunno. i assume they can text like anyone, and answer a phone or email.
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15:08<psyndrome>Is this compiz any danger for 9.5 Debian?
15:09<mnuhmnuh>the other day, there were ca. 470 nicks in here. i'll bet a lot of them use rhel too.
15:09<annadane>danger? what danger?
15:09<psyndrome>danger in a sense to break my desktop environment which is MATE in this case
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15:10<mnuhmnuh>apt show compiz-mate
15:10<annadane>no reason for it to
15:11<mnuhmnuh>isn't compiz that horrifically memory hungry eye-candy cube of desktops thingy?
15:12<psyndrome>yes but why memory hungry?
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15:14<mnuhmnuh>try it and run top.
15:14<mnuhmnuh>... assuming your system isn't swapping on its knees.
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15:16<psyndrome>hmm i have been using it long ago and i dont know about consumption but when i browse around i didnt feel it
15:16<psyndrome>Besides im using an old pc
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15:19<mnuhmnuh>meant to say there's a backport - Package: compiz-mate
15:19<mnuhmnuh>Version: 1:0.9.13.1+18.04.20180302-1~bpo9+1
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15:35<mnuhmnuh>i just did apt-get install compiz compiz-mate compiz-plugins compizconfig-settings-manager libcompizconfig0 and it seems to have worked fine. now, i just have to figure out what it does.
15:36<psyndrome>i installed it i love this so much but
15:37<mnuhmnuh>ahh. compiz config settings mgr. shows up in mate menu. slick.
15:37<psyndrome>my borders
15:37<psyndrome>my theme borders changed to something else
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15:42<psyndrome>do you know which command should i use to remain with my window theme borders
15:43<psyndrome>in the window decoration settings
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15:47<mnuhmnuh>system prefs look&feel appearance?
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15:48<psyndrome>no i mean when i activate compiz the appearance window border is removed
15:48<mnuhmnuh>or in ccsm somewhere.
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15:48<psyndrome>not removed but replaced
15:49<kiteless>Hi. I'm trying to find a work-around for the following bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=838503
15:49<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/838503 in debian-installer (open): «debian-installer: mdadm should not start syncing RAID1 arrays at full speed during installation»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-09-21; last modified: 2017-11-27.
15:49<kiteless>I've found that when imaging a host, if I `echo 1000 > /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max` I can throttle the raid sync and greatly speed up package installs. But I have thus far only been able to do this manually. I'm trying to find a way of setting this value early enough in preseed that it applies throughout the bulk of the package install
15:49<psyndrome>in ccsm there is window decoration command
15:50<mnuhmnuh>i didn't see much change, perhaps haven't activated it yet? it's there, just don't know how to use it.
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15:50<psyndrome>compiz --replace activates the program
15:51<psyndrome>its very hard not to notice changes :D
15:51<psyndrome>it is so powerful program
15:52<psyndrome>Lol people asking for some real things here im just always complaining about my visual environment :D
15:52<kiteless>Is anyone here able to help with a preseed issue?
15:54<psyndrome>I dont know just may be someone pro have to see this im just an ordinary user
15:54<mnuhmnuh>why are all the plugins disabled? hmm.
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15:54<psyndrome>because they mess with the system very hard may be
15:54<psyndrome>so you should apply carefully some of them
15:55<psyndrome>there are so much nice things to play with
15:55<annadane>kiteless, if nobody knows the answer in IRC try the mailing list. debian-user@lists.debian.org
15:56<mnuhmnuh>ah. just did compiz --restart, and window borders & controls gone. mouse auto-raise, disabled. sigh.
15:57<psyndrome>exactly those type of things im afraid of
15:57<mnuhmnuh>mate toolbars still functioning.
15:57<psyndrome>very nice program but sometimes make a mess
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15:58<psyndrome>I usually dont setup the program to start on login and if something bad happen i restart the computer and i hope to get back to normal state :D
15:59<mnuhmnuh>ah, now i see enable window decoration in effects window decoration, borders and control are back.
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15:59<psyndrome>can you tell me the location of my regular themes?
16:00<psyndrome>cause window decorator command is redirect to something else
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16:00<psyndrome>or its just a glitch idk
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16:42<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
16:42<cousin_luigi>It's unclear to me where to find the source packages in deb-multimedia.
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16:46<cousin_luigi>sorry, nevermind
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17:38<spande>trying to connect my laptop via wifi. iwlist wlo1 scan shows me the network essid I want. But wicd-gtk does not show me a list of essids
17:40<spande>network-manager is off.
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17:40<Mikaela>Hi, I just noticed that the package gocode in Debian has no upstream maintaining anymore and there is advice to moving to a fork. Should this be reported somewhere? https://github.com/nsf/gocode/blob/master/README.md I didn't see any bugs reported against that package or vim-gocomplete which is how I endeed up there.
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17:48<dpkg>The wireless-tools package provides utilities for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions (wext), including iwconfig and iwlist. It also provides wireless-* ifupdown hooks to /etc/network/interfaces, read /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian for more information. To connect to networks which use WPA encryption, ask me about <wpa>.
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18:45<kiteless>Hi
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19:40<kiteless>I figured I'd give it one last shot before the end of the day: Anyone good with preseed here?
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19:49<themill>kiteless: better to ask your real question; your current approach will never worjk
19:49<kiteless>Ok. I'm trying to set dev.raid.speed_limit_max during preseed. How?
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19:51<themill>does it need to be set prior to installation or just prior to first boot?
19:52<kiteless>I want it set immediately prior to package installation.
19:53<themill>"d-i preseed/early_command" should be able to do that early on by calling sysctl; "d-i preseed/late_command" can make be used to make this a permanent setting by adding it to sysctl.conf
19:54<kiteless>So, like "d-i preseed/early_command string 'sysctl -w dev.raid.speed_limit_max=1000'"? I don't care about making it permanent.
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19:57<themill>I don't think you need the single quotes there, but otherwise, yes
19:57<themill>hmmm assuming sysctl is available as a command that early
19:58<kiteless>Yeah, that's kind of the trick. I've tried a number of different approaches, none of which have worked
19:58<kiteless>I'm happy to give that one a shot but when I console in sysctl isn't in the path
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20:01<themill>have you tried writing to /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max from that spot? (is that virtual filesystem mounted yet?)
20:02<kiteless>I try it right after the partitioning and raid creation. I've tried to echo into that file in a variety of ways
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20:02<kiteless>preseed/early_command preseed/include_command preseed/late_command
20:03<kiteless>I've tried setting the value in /etc/sysctl.conf and that doesn't even show up
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20:18<kiteless>Well, thanks for responding, themill. I'll try using sysctl in my next attempts.
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22:55-!-linux_ is "linux" on #debian
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23:18-!-mode/#debian [+l 482] by debhelper
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23:43-!-ikram is "realname" on #debian
23:43<ikram>hai
23:44<ikram>fuck you
23:44<ikram>wkakwkaka
23:44<ikram>wkwkwkw
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23:58-!-epony is "Eponymous Pseudonym" on #virt #qemu #otr #munin #debian #C #bitrig
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---Logclosed Wed Oct 10 00:00:19 2018