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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-10-22

---Logopened Mon Oct 22 00:00:36 2018
00:00-!-awal1 [~awal1@modemcable251.103-162-184.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
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00:05-!-dboehmer___ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:15-!-_cr_ is "Carsten Rosenberg" on #debian
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00:18-!-Gromit_ is "Jan-Hendrik Palic" on #debian
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00:18-!-musca` is "musca" on #ecryptfs #debian.de-offtopic #debian-perl #debian-next #debian-mozilla #debian-libreoffice #debian-ipv6 #debian-fedmsg #debian-derivatives #debian-cinnamon #debian-blends #debian #bash #aptosid
00:19<nyov>whats PMF?
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00:22-!-SeekCodes is "s33kc0d3s" on #linux #python #debian
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00:23-!-BCMM is "BCMM" on #oftc #linux #debian-kde #debian #debian-next
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00:27<sqrt{not}>Protected Management Frames, i.e. slightly more secure wi-fi protocol
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00:28-!-towo^work is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #kernelnewbies #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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00:40-!-fusulbashi is "fusulbashi" on #debian #smuxi
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00:41-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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00:43-!-Se-bash^2 is "Sebastián Coca" on #debian-next #debian-es #debian
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00:48-!-_cr_ is "Carsten Rosenberg" on #debian
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01:06-!-Tempesta is "ChoiKyuSang" on #debian #smuxi
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01:41-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debianppc #debian
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02:17-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on #debian #debian-es #debian-ve
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02:53<jay_>ehy how do i connect ssh to my android phone? How is the command sshroot@""
02:54<kts>xfce screen brightness reset to 100 every reboot.
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03:28-!-Natureshadow is "Dominik George" on #skolelinux.de #debian-remote #debian-lego #debian
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03:32-!-hde is "purple" on #openvas #debian
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03:33-!-jmux is "Jan-Marek Glogowski" on #debian
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03:35-!-}ls{ is "nobody" on #debian-nginx #debian-welcome #debian-localgroups #debian-lan #debian-kde #debian-gis #debian-django #debian #osm-de
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05:33<giorgio_>hi, is there anybody who can help me to make wifi work?
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05:34<dreamer>giorgio_: state your problem, not if someone will help with the problem (aka: don't ask to ask, just ask)
05:34<sep>just ask. nobody knows if they can answer your question when it is so vauge
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05:37<giorgio_>I apologize. I am trying to make my wifi work on debian stretch. I updated to kernel to 4.18.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 and added the firmware for the intel 9462 card. Still wifi is not detected
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05:46<grummund>Hi all, should update-alternatives --set editor be run as root (it does not complain if not), and should this determine the editor used by crontab -e (because it isn't) ?
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06:12<jm_>grummund: crontab -e should respect it if VISUAL or EDITOR env vars are not set
06:14<jm_>grummund: as for not complaining if run as root, update-alternatives: error: error creating symbolic link '/etc/alternatives/editor.dpkg-tmp': Permission denied
06:14<jm_>sorry, if run as non-root
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06:23<grummund>jm_: sorry, i just reminded myself the system is raspian and not debian. but it's interesting because neither VISUAL or EDITOR are set, also there is no error (or any output) when run as non-root.
06:29<jm_>grummund: hmm maybe ask in their channel
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06:29<grummund>jm_: i am, but fwiw, on debian for me it does not complain as non-root either.
06:30<grummund>that is, update-alternatives --verbose --set editor /usr/bin/emacs24
06:30<grummund>(no output)
06:31<jm_>grummund: what is your current editor alternative?
06:31<grummund>/usr/bin/emacs24
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06:31<jm_>that's why you don;t get an error :)
06:31<jm_>you'll get an error if you change it to a different one
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06:34<grummund>very true :)
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06:57<grummund>jm_: it appears release specific - debian 9 has the same - it is using ~/.selected_editor instead of /usr/bin/editor
06:59<jm_>grummund: what is? crontab command?
06:59<grummund>yes, crontab -e
06:59<grummund>"The -e option is used to edit the current crontab using the editor specified by the VISUAL or EDITOR environment variables. ... If neither of the environment variables is defined, then the default editor /usr/bin/editor is used."
07:00<jm_>grummund: yeah it runs /usr/bin/sensible-editor, which indeed honours that file
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07:02<TobiX>~/.selected_editor is a feature of sensible-utils
07:03<TobiX>See the manpage of select-editor(1)
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07:07<grummund>TobiX: yes i found that thanks, it is not mentioned by man crontab.
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08:09<mc68040>hi all, i found a bug that only appears when php-imagick and php-gmagick are both installed - to which package i should file it?
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08:16<mcastillo>Hello, I have installed Debian stable in a PC with a very basic graphic card that comes in the motherboard. The X system is running in software rendering mode. Some apps are not being shown. For example, gedit is running and it is in the taskbar, but it is not being shown. The only way to get it shown is by maximizing it in its context menu in the taskbar.
08:16<mcastillo>if I unmaximize it, then it gets hidden again.
08:17<mc68040>short form of the bug: phpinfo() triggers an "php': malloc(): memory corruption: 0x0000562b133ded50" resulting in an SIGABRT
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08:33<petn-randall>mcastillo: That usually happens when you accidentally moved the window outside of the display zone. You can select "move", then use the arrow keys to get it in (or out) of the displayable area.
08:33<petn-randall>mcastillo: This is likely not an issue with your graphics card.
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08:37<mcastillo>petn-randall: Thanks. The unmaximized window was out of the display zone as you said.
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08:56<aario>Hi Folks, Just did apt upgrade on debian sid and faced following errors. Any idea? Thanks in advance.
08:56<aario>dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of dh-strip-nondeterminism:
08:56<aario> dh-strip-nondeterminism depends on debhelper (>= 9.20151004); however:
08:56<aario> Package debhelper is not installed.
08:56<aario>dpkg: error processing package dh-strip-nondeterminism (--configure):
08:56<aario> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
08:56<dpkg>aario: that's not the complete error. Please pastebin the command you gave and the entire output. Ask me about <pastebin> <bat> <localised errors>.
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09:00<aario>I'm not sure if my previous message is received. Here is my pastebin of debian sid after recent upgrade: https://pastebin.com/TUXmwcdr
09:01<bremner>aario: try #debian-next for sid support
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09:02<aario>sure. thanks.
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10:39<Guest1071>hi, folks. I' m trying to reinstall pulseaudio, need help. Thanks
10:39<danopa>!ask
10:39<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:39<danopa>Guest1071: give details ;)
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10:41<Guest1071>Debian 9. When I try apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio I also get gnome* and a lot more will be remove, so I answer no.
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10:41<danopa>Guest1071: you can reinstall without removing first. what problem are you trying to solve?
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10:43<petn-randall>Guest1071: As danopa said, what problem are you trying to solve? Because reinstalling might not give you the effect you're hoping for.
10:43<Guest1071>A very wired issue, sounds coming only from one speaker when using GUI applications, speaker-test makes sound come up but very unbalanced.
10:43<petn-randall>Guest1071: Then reinstalling won't do anything.
10:44<petn-randall>Guest1071: Have you tried running pavucontrol and setting the speaker balance in there?
10:44<Guest1071>I have to set on pavucontrol like 145% Right - 90% Left if I want balanced sound. Only through speaker-test command
10:44<petn-randall>Guest1071: Have you also verified it's not a hardware issue (broken speaker)?
10:44<Guest1071>I dissambled and tested the speaker with multimeters, are both ok.
10:45<petn-randall>Guest1071: Unbalanced sounds might also be when the audio jack is not properly seated.
10:46<Guest1071>I think is a alsa or pulseaudio stored config issue, since Important (just put in a diferent machine hardware, the Hard Drive from another machine)
10:47<petn-randall>Guest1071: "since important"? What does that mean?
10:47<Guest1071>Everything esle is already working
10:48<Guest1071>Means that is an important detail to say that the whole system came already setup in the Hard Drive from another hardware. just switch Hard Drive from machine
10:48<petn-randall>Guest1071: And the issue was also on the old machine?
10:48<Guest1071>Nope
10:49<petn-randall>Guest1071: You can check with `alsamixer` if the left/right speakers are unbalanced. My guess is a HW issue (cabling, connections) somewhere, though.
10:49<Guest1071>It Came from Gateway Laptop to a lenovo s400
10:50<Guest1071>I did play a lot with alsamixer and had no success.
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10:52<Guest1071>But, what is wired is.1- Test Speakers with multimeter is OK, 2- Test using speaker-test command result in working both speakers but unbalanced. 3- Play audio from Any application from GUI, only one speaker work
10:52<petn-randall>Guest1071: If you have a USB stick spare, I'd put a live image on it, and check if the issue is there, too. That way you can conclude if it's an hardware issue or not.
10:53<Guest1071>I do have a LIVE USB already, will try and come back, thanks guys. I'll be back.
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11:18<samu_>hi folks, I'm back. unfortunately I got the same results through the LIVE USB. Seems like the Left speaker got damaged, despite I can get sound from it from speaker-test command and get a reasonable volumen with pavucontrol.
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11:20<samu_>But there is no way to get sound from it using for example youtube from firefox, or rhythmbox, etc
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11:22<samu_>So, it must be an hardware issue as you said before, I just was hopping to get at least some sound from it, headphone jack is OK, so I don't think is gonna be the audio chip.
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11:39<tda>where do you set what email server things like logcheck, cron, root, etc... use to send email?
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11:50<peter1138>They use the local mail system.
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11:54<tda>but if they're set to send to another server, where is that done?
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11:56<peter1138>Via the local mail system.
11:56<peter1138>That depends on which local mail system is installed.
11:57<retrospectacus>!which mta
11:57<dpkg>To see which <MTA> you have installed: dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail . See also <mta comparison>.
11:57<peter1138>Default on Debian is Exim.
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11:58<tda>it says postfix
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12:06<mc68040>tda: if your system can send mail to extern you can set an alias for root in /etc/aliases followed by "newaliases"
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13:23<nyov>or it could be satellite system using a relayhost, which would be set in /etc/postfix/main.cf
13:23<nyov>oh wow. way late
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13:29<annadane>does anyone know why the emacs metapackage default to emacs 24 instead of 25?
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13:30<annadane>i know it's more than just emacs and a number of packages are... "built on it" (i don't know how to phrase it)
13:31<annadane>oh actually that may not be the case. i'm thinking of sid where emacs 26 still isn't in it because they have to bump certain other packages, or something
13:31<annadane>but i thought emacs wasn't just the program, there was a whole framework, maybe the maintainers built that with 24 in mind
13:32<Synthea>How can I put a newer cmake version in /usr/local/?
13:34<jhutchins_wk>,v emacs
13:34<judd>Package: emacs on amd64 -- wheezy: 45.0; jessie: 46.1; stretch: 46.1; buster: 1:25.2+1-11; sid: 1:25.2+1-11
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13:40<annadane>maybe jessie had 24 and they left it at that so ensure a smoother upgrade transition
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14:33<cadburn>is it possible that a fstab -bind on a ZFS drive will fail?
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15:03<cadburn>i would like to run mount --bind command before network.target in a systemd *.service
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15:06<cadburn>or rather i want to start [Service] ExecStart=mount --bind /pool0/Gridcoin/ /home/homeserver/.GridcoinResearch/ before i run [Service] ExecStart=/usr/bin/gridcoinresearch
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15:06<itd>cadburn: why *.service? why not *.mount? (man systemd.mount) I think you want 'Before=' (man systemd.unit).
15:08<cadburn>well i'm using webmin to do this, the second command starts as i want to
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15:09<cadburn>i'm mounting a ZFS path so it all needs to happen after ZFS is started
15:10<Brigo>webmin! i thought that was dead as it should.
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15:12<cadburn>how should it be done than? both commands need to start after ZFS is ready so basicly ZFS -> mount --bind -> program starts
15:13<itd>cadburn: what mounts zfs?
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15:15<cadburn>sorry got disconnected for some reason has anyone responded?
15:16<annadane>itd said "what mounts zfs?"
15:16<annadane>and that's it
15:16<bremner>cadburn: did you check that your bind mount was after the underlying volume is mounted in fstab?
15:17<bremner>sixth field, fs_passno
15:17<bremner>oh, that's just for fsck. dunno then.
15:17<cadburn>according to this old thread fstab starts before zfs https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/issues/971
15:18<bremner>sounds broken, but ok.
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15:23<cadburn>i actually dont know how the ZFS drives are mounted, not through fstab at least what i can tell
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15:29<itd>cadburn: Guess I'd try something like: https://askubuntu.com/a/1056442 , then a '*.mount' unit with 'After=' to bind mount that directory and finally your '*.service' also with 'After='.
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15:37<cadburn>itd I'll try this tomorrow, thanks bye
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15:38<ach>some special to mount zfs?
15:40<itd>ack
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15:41<ach>!rofl irl
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15:48<tda>please don't roll on the floor. that's where we get schwifty
15:49<ach>!idc
15:49<dpkg>from memory, idc is "I don't care" or "I don't give a fuck"
15:56<bw>I have a question regardig apt. When i do apt-get update i get serveral errors. 'Read error (-5: DATA_ERROR_MAGIC)' among other. Version:debian 9.
15:56<bw>i recently deleted all files in /var/lib/apt/lists/
15:56<bw>(and dirs)
15:58<bw>ok. I just deleted the files again and that particular error is gone
15:58<tda>why did you delete those?
15:59<bw>It was a measure taken due to another error (wich is still persistent)
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15:59<bw>wait a second...
15:59<bw>last time it was listed as error. Now i get:
15:59<bw>W: GPG error: http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553 NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010 NO_PUBKEY EF0F382A1A7B6500
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16:00<tda>are you using non-debian repos?
16:01<jhutchins_wk>tda: deb.debian.org looks like debian to me.
16:01<ach>don't delete dir's
16:02<ach>the software afford them
16:02<jhutchins_wk>!sources.list
16:02<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
16:02<bw>you mean 'partial'?
16:03<bw>yes jhutchins_wk allthough i recently removed 'stretch/updates main' because i had issues with those
16:03<ach>try figure it out by reinsatll apt aptitude by downloading the package even i wouldn try ever delete folders in not can't
16:05<bw>ach you mean reinsall aptitude?
16:06<ach>if folders gone?? but i think just a apt-key and some new key option and you should have back apt
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16:09<ach>https://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html
16:11<bw>thank you ach
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19:56<marmarek>hi
19:57<marmarek>is there anything wrong with cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org? I get 404 on http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/Release (but works when manually prefixing with cdn-aws.)
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19:58<annadane>known issue, yeah
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20:00<marmarek>something worked on, or should I simply switch to cdn-aws and ignore cdn-fastly?
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20:01<rodrigc>annadane: is there a ticket or log of the issue somewhere that I can refer to?
20:01<annadane>that was suggested in the other debian channel so i guess you can use that or just use one of your country's mirrors
20:02<annadane>dunno rodrigc. it's a known issue and they were discussing it, you can join #debian-mirrors for discussion
20:02<rodrigc>annadane: thanks, I just want to have something to point to, because this is breaking docker builds of some images I have which inherit from debian stretch
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20:22<sylvester>HI
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20:23<Guest1112>Hello. Is there curretnly an issue with: http://deb.debian.org/debian ? I am trying to build deply and part of the process is /bin/sh -c apt update -y && apt install -y nginx and getting an error that's returning a non-zero code of 100
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20:24<Guest1112>For me i get 404, but not sur eif this is just coicendental
20:24<annadane>known issue
20:24<mnuhmnuh>yup, looks sick to me.
20:24<Guest1112>as of a few hours ago?
20:24<annadane>just wait a bit or change the mirror
20:24<Guest1112>OK, thank you!!
20:24<annadane>they're redirecting now i think
20:25<rodrigc>Guest1112: known issue, being tracked and discussed on #debian-mirrors
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20:27<Synbios>anyone had problems accessing freenas 11.1 (stable) shares with debian 9 (stretch)?
20:27<Guest1112>seems like the same issue I was having and why I came here.
20:27<Synbios>it used to work fine, but freenas implemented an update that disabled SMBv1 which I think is the problem, I think Debian is stuck on SMBv1 and can't figure out how to get the client to use SMBv2
20:27<Guest1112>"[20:25] <rodrigc> Guest1112: known issue, being tracked and discussed on #debian-mirrors"
20:28<Synbios>are you using SMB as well? for testing I tried an NFS share and it is working ok
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20:29<Synbios>but I have some shares that are SMB already and can't really enable NFS access for those simultaneously, I heard you can run into a permissions disaster
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20:31<mnuhmnuh>#debian-mirrors
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20:32<annadane>i have no idea what smb is or whether it even relates to the mirrors, lol.
20:33<annadane>i'd hazard a guess it's not the same issue
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20:35<mnuhmnuh>i do this so seldom, i don't know what to use. banshee works, but not to my taste. how to rip music cds from command-line? cd /scratch/tunes && $rip /dev/sr0 > $album ?
20:35<annadane>ffmpeg i guess
20:35<annadane>but that's not really helpful
20:36<Synbios>annadane: took me a second to figure that out, but yes I see Guest1112 was responding to someone else. and SMB is server message block which is used for sharing media across a network using Samba
20:36<bremner>I used to use abcde, but it's not instable
20:38<annadane>oh rip cd's? hmm. not really sure
20:38<mnuhmnuh>bremner: yes it is - "A Better CD Encoder"
20:38<annadane>,v abcde
20:38<judd>Package: abcde on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.5.3-1; jessie: 2.6-2; stretch: 2.8.1-1; buster: 2.9.2-1; sid: 2.9.2-1
20:38<bremner>oh, ok. right, I just searched wrong
20:38<mnuhmnuh>tx. :-)
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20:39<Synbios>I haven't ripped a CD in years but I think I did use abcde and rip it to FLAC
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20:47*mnuhmnuh grr. gahddamned "Suggested packages:", geez. i don't know what any of that stuff is!?! :-| do i need/want any of that? augh! rhetorical. atomicparsley!
20:47<annadane>apt show foo
20:47<alfoofedes>is debian repo down?
20:47<wasabicode>seems to be
20:47<annadane>they're in the process of fixing it
20:47<annadane>it either should be already, or change your mirror
20:48<wasabicode>https://twitter.com/NorikDavtian/status/1054513101935013888
20:48<wasabicode>I came to the IRC look for any updates on the status. It's still down for me.
20:48<annadane>just change the mirror for now, then
20:49<annadane>https://www.debian.org/mirror/list
20:49<wasabicode>it's for docker image
20:49<wasabicode>so it's not a good idea to change the mirror inside the image
20:50<annadane>oh, okay
20:50<wasabicode>Here's the error I am receiving as of my last test 30s ago
20:50<wasabicode>E: Failed to fetch http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/dists/buster-updates/main/binary-all/Packages 404 Not Found
20:50<wasabicode>E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
20:50<bremner>pretty sure that's not going to help anything
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20:52<wasabicode>bremner: ok, just came here looking for an update as to when they expect it to be resolved
20:52<mnuhmnuh>pretyy sure it's working as it should. as in, it's down so is ignoring us.
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20:56<ais-admin>I use mirrors.namecheap.com - they are currently up and working
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20:58<mnuhmnuh>sneaky devil.
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21:01<alfoofedes>dns is up problem is that subdirectories aren't, which makes dns failover not to work
21:01<alfoofedes>accesting http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org works, but http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian doesn't
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21:02<alfoofedes>accessing*
21:04*mnuhmnuh wait for it. have a nap. take a walk. starbucks! smell roses.
21:04<wasabicode>mnuhmnuh: perfect plan!
21:05<mnuhmnuh>never do today what you can put off til tomorrow, next week, year, ...
21:06<wasabicode>between this outage and github it'll be weeks before I work again :)
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21:08<mnuhmnuh>backups?
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21:09<mnuhmnuh>Linus: "the net backs up for me."
21:10<annadane>Linus: "back up, you're in my way"
21:10<mnuhmnuh>he'd never be that polite. :-)
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21:14<mnuhmnuh>well, he's usually polite, but no if you're in the way.
21:15<annadane>or if you break userspace
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21:17<mnuhmnuh>abcde -a [-d /dev/sr0] # good grief, -N (just go ahead!). research.
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21:27<mnuhmnuh>ah, abcde -d /dev/sr0 is working.
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22:07<mnuhmnuh>and maybe some of "abcde -U -x -w tananas -d /dev/sr0" worked, but wth, it plays, thanks. still need to "mv Unknown_Artist-Unknown_Album/ Tananas-'Alive in Jo\'burg'" afterward, why? meh.
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22:09<annadane>case sensitive?
22:09<annadane>idk. not familiar with abcde
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22:11<mnuhmnuh>mostly works, good enough.
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22:12<annadane>someone was too lazy to spell "Johannesburg"
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22:14<AciD`>hey, what would be the best way (if any) to install the kdepim suite from buster onto stretch, while trying to only update the necessary kde packages?
22:14<AciD`>I haven't found any backport, but perhaps I missed those
22:14*annadane screams and runs away
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22:23<mnuhmnuh>annadane: suspect tananas is from there, so dissing the town is native privilege.
22:23<annadane>maybe try asking #debian-kde
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22:50<finn>wasabicode: have you found any further information?
22:50<finn>i just started running into this
22:51<wasabicode>afaik it's been resolved
22:51<finn>(the fastly mirror 404ing, causing docker breakages)
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22:51<finn>oh hrm
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22:51<finn>ah, so it has
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23:38<woddf2>What could cause NetworkManager to lose its Ethernet connection after locking and then unlocking XScreenSaver twice?
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23:57<petn-randall>woddf2: I don't think those events are related.
23:57<petn-randall>woddf2: Is the issue reproducible?
23:57<woddf2>petn-randall: Yes
23:57<petn-randall>woddf2: On which OS?
23:57<woddf2>petn-randall: Debian 9
23:57<petn-randall>Hmm.
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23:58<petn-randall>woddf2: xscreensaver has no bindings to network-manager, so I don't see how that could happen.
23:58<petn-randall>woddf2: Did you install any 3rd party apps that would do that maybe?
23:58<woddf2>petn-randall: Not to my knowledge...
23:59<noxious>what a channel
23:59<petn-randall>noxious: ?
23:59<noxious>i am noob
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