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00:01<woddf2>petn-randall: Wi-Fi isn't affected, and rebooting the repeater bridge fixes it... until I lock and unlock XScreenSaver twice again.
00:01<petn-randall>woddf2: You can check /var/log/daemon.log and kern.log for any clues in that matter.
00:02<petn-randall>woddf2: Only thing I can imagine is that you're triggering suspend.
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00:03<woddf2>petn-randall: I tail -f'd the former, and nothing relevant appeared when I reproduced the issue.
00:03*woddf2 tries kern.log
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00:04<petn-randall>woddf2: You should see n-m triggering any events in there.
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00:13<woddf2>After unlocking XScreenSaver just now: Oct 22 21:13:13 nomad kernel: [21328.404219] e1000e: enp0s25 NIC Link is Down Oct 22 21:13:15 nomad kernel: [21330.801817] e1000e: enp0s25 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: Rx/Tx
00:14<woddf2>(Ethernet wasn't even "connected" that time!)
00:14<woddf2>Oct 22 21:14:36 nomad kernel: [21411.547926] e1000e: enp0s25 NIC Link is Down Oct 22 21:14:37 nomad kernel: [21412.129988] [drm:i965_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun
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00:24<petn-randall>woddf2: So do you see anything from n-m in daemon.log?
00:25<petn-randall>woddf2: What kind of Ethernet bridge is this?
00:25<woddf2>petn-randall: A router I repurposed into a repeater bridge with DD-WRT as per https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge
00:26<woddf2>Oct 22 21:26:37 nomad dhclient[944]: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.109 on enp0s25 to 255.255.255.255 port
00:27<petn-randall>woddf2: Can you paste the complete logs around the event from daemon.log and kern.log to https://paste.debian.net?
00:29<woddf2>petn-randall: daemon.log: https://paste.debian.net/1048578/
00:31<woddf2>petn-randall: kern.log: https://paste.debian.net/1048579/
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00:34<petn-randall>woddf2: And at what time did you lock your screensaver?
00:35<woddf2>petn-randall: At about 21:36:37, 21:14:36, 21:13:13, and possibly others (all times PDT)
00:35<woddf2>petn-randall: (I locked and then immediately unlocked shortly thereafter when testing, but the problem has appeared when locked longer.)
00:40<petn-randall>woddf2: What I can say is that it's not triggered by n-m, you'd otherwise see events starting with 'nm-dispatcher:'.
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00:46<mome> woddf2: What Desktop Environment ae you using?
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00:48<woddf2>mome: None
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00:48<mome> woddf2: So you work only text mode?
00:48<woddf2>mome: No, I use X just a window manager and some other tools.
00:49<woddf2>mome: s/X just/X with just/
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00:51<mome> woddf2: Ok, so NetworkManager is suposed to keep alive the connection when you lock the screen or reconnect in case of disconnection?
00:51<woddf2>mome: It's not supposed to do anything related to locking the screen.
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00:53<mome> woddf2: So you you don't expect disconnection at all.
00:53<woddf2>mome: Yes, I don't.
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00:54<mome> woddf2: Can be related to power management?
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00:54<woddf2>mome: ?
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00:57<mome> woddf2: You can try an alternative to NetworkManager, for example wicd. just to discard NetworkManager from the equation?
00:58<petn-randall>We already established that it's not related to network-manager.
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00:59<petn-randall>woddf2: It's a thinkpad, right? Is Ethernet plugged into the laptop directly, or is there a dockingstation?
01:00<woddf2>petn-randall: It's connected to the docking station.
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01:01<petn-randall>woddf2: Can you try plugging it directly to the laptop and reproducing the issue?
01:05<m_g_lewis>Does a USB hard drive have disks and heads like an internal hard drive? What's the best brand of USB hard drive?
01:06<m_g_lewis>Can I boot from a USB hard drive and partition it with different partitions for different OS's?
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01:12<woddf2>petn-randall: I'm trying, but I'm having trouble even connecting via Ethernet.
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01:15<mome>woddf2: The ethernet connection is also to the repeater (dd-wrt)?
01:15<woddf2>mome: Yes
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01:16<mome>woddf2: Can you try to connect direct to the main router, either wifi or ethernet, and try to reproduce the issue?
01:16<woddf2>mome: That doesn't have the issue.
01:21<mome>woddf2: Just to discard options. I have seen som many thinks installing dd-wrt and setting up Repeater Bridge. By the way, I love it.
01:23<mome>woddf2: I meant, flashing routers
01:23<jm_>m_g_lewis: depends on the drive, you can get classic magnetic disks or flash disks in them, as for boot, sure, modern computer can boot from USB, whether the OS supports it is another question (with Linux it should be OK if configured properly)
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01:56<woddf2>mome: Ethernet does not work with the main router, either. That rules out the repeater bridge being the problem.
01:57<mome>woddf2: Sorry, at least you are getting close.
01:59<jm_>does ethtool show link
01:59<jm_>sorry, what does ethtool show for its link status? or have you already been through this?
01:59<mome>woddf2: I guess you tried what petn-randall suggested about to connect directly to the laptop ethernet port?
01:59<woddf2>mome: Yes, but I couldn't get it to connect.
02:00<woddf2>jm_: "Link detected: yes"
02:00<mome>woddf2: Did you try a different cable?
02:00<woddf2>mome: Yes
02:01<mome>woddf2: And restarting network-manager service?
02:02<woddf2>mome: After restarting NetworkManager, Wi-Fi continues to work, but the Ethernet section reads "device not ready".
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02:03<jm_>woddf2: does it show expected speed/duplex too? have you tried ignoring it in NM and configuring it manually?
02:03<mome>woddf2: Mmm, did this ethernet work fine before?
02:04<woddf2>mome: At some point, probably
02:04<woddf2>jm_: "Speed: 1000Mb/s" "Duplex: Full"
02:04<woddf2>jm_: I tried disabling NetworkManager, and then using dhclient manually. That didn't work either.
02:05<jm_>woddf2: and its uplink is definitely gigabit capable? how about using ifconfig to configure it?
02:05<mome>woddf2: Did you try to reload the kernel module for ethernet?
02:05<woddf2>jm_: I've used ifconfig to bring down and then back up enp0s25.
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02:09<jm_>woddf2: and if you assign it an IP, it doesn't work either?
02:09<woddf2>jm_: I haven't tried that.
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02:12<mome>woddf2: Did you paste the dmesg. Mabey driver issue with new kernels.
02:13<jm_>woddf2: try «ip a add your_ip/netmask dev enp0s25»
02:13<libregeekingkid[m]>what would be the best place to ask questions regarding the New Member process for Debian Developer.
02:13<libregeekingkid[m]>?
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02:34<jm_>libregeekingkid[m]: tried #debian-mentors?
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02:39<kts>I want to hibernate.
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02:41<jm_>your computer or yourself?
02:41<kts>jm_, my computer
02:42<jm_>kts: back when I used that feature I used s2disk, but I recommend you wait for someone else to tell you howdo it with currently recommended tools
02:43<jm_>ahh https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation
02:43<kts>I'm enjoying stability even without hibernation you know.
02:43<jm_>kts: ^^^^^
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02:54<libregeekingkid[m]>jm_ (IRC): nope, I was not able to decide the appropriate channel to do so. Will head there
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03:11<woddf2>jm_, mome, petn-randall: I tried with a LiveUSB environment, and noticed no issues, again ruling out the repeater and further implicating my configuration.
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03:18<jm_>woddf2: did you try the ip command to assign an IP? did you compare what the kernel says in a working case vs. non-working case?
03:19<woddf2>jm_: That's next.
03:19<jm_>woddf2: are you sure it doesn't require a firmware to operate? should be visible in kernel messages
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03:20<woddf2>jm_: Here, it should be just Wi-Fi that requires additional firmware (firmware-iwlwifi in that case).
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03:21<jm_>woddf2: OK, just amking sure it's not something simple
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06:06<oo_miguel>in htop, multithreaded processes list as many entires each using memory on its own. However in reality they all share the same memonry. How can I see which belong together?
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06:08<oo_miguel>aaah I can switch this with 'H'
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09:04<tarzeau>how could i steal the screenshot direct link from a page like https://screenshots.debian.net/package/fonts-league-spartan ?
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09:05<SpeedyG>you mean this link: https://screenshots.debian.net/screenshots/000/016/043/large.png ?
09:05<tarzeau>SpeedyG: exactly
09:05<tarzeau>ahhh lynx maybe can help
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09:06<SpeedyG>in chrome I could just 'view image' with a right mouse button ...
09:07<tarzeau>SpeedyG: i want it scripted :) but i got it now, thanks
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09:08<SpeedyG>grep the .png, cut it to the src="" stuff and then prefix it with sc.rdeb.net ;)
09:08<tarzeau>SpeedyG: there's gnome-software, there's apple app store. and where's debian app store? NO WORRIES! i'm working on it: http://phd-sid.ethz.ch/appstore/
09:08<tarzeau>once i have it for one package, i can make it for all packages!
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09:10<SpeedyG>tarzeau: isnt that like packages.debian.org, but with some pics? :P
09:10<SpeedyG>or synaptic like?
09:11<tarzeau>SpeedyG: yes but packages.debian.org is PAINFUL! but yeah it's p.d.o with pics :)
09:11<SpeedyG>yeah, a decent search function there wouldnt hurt anyone I guess ;)
09:11<tarzeau>bah, that sentence makes me want to stop
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09:12<tarzeau>SpeedyG: plan was to also add changelogs as in What's New: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/modizer/id393964792#?platform=iphone
09:12<tarzeau>but heck, even getting the Description only from a package is painful! grep-dctrl and that stuff i just don't grasp it
09:13<tarzeau>looking at https://appstream.debian.org/sid/main/index.html i want to puke. so many errors and warnings. that's not the fault of the people creating the packages! it's the appstream guys!
09:13<tarzeau>and screenshots.debian.net it's so empty!
09:14<tarzeau>and the appstream font image generator is really ugly too
09:14<tarzeau>wherever you look: a mess!
09:14<SpeedyG>for a description (at least a short one) you could parse https://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages?format=txt.gz
09:14<tarzeau>like a room full of lego, you can't take a step anywhere without hurting yourself severely
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09:29<charon>anyone here
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09:30<DNS>you arent in hackint if you think so
09:30<charon>is this irc server of chaosvpn
09:31<DNS>nope
09:31<petn-randall>charon: No, this is irc.oftc.net.
09:31<DNS>this is OFTC IRC
09:31<DNS>and this chan is for debian support
09:31<DNS>:)
09:32<charon>i want to connect irc.hackint.net with hexchat how can i do that
09:32<DNS>charon: https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html
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09:56<grove>Are there are good tools to manage (Open)VPN connections as an ordinary user (manage meaning establish/destroy tunnels - setting up can require more privileges) that doesn't want to save my passphrase and is usable when you don't have a DE running (I just use i3, and believe my head to be a better storage for that passphrase than gnome-keyring)
09:57<petn-randall>grove: network-manager-openvpn
10:00<grove>petn-randall: Is there any documentation on how to use that somewhere? (/usr/share/doc/network-manager-openvpn/ doesn't seem helpful)
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10:28<grove>When I install that nmtui doesn't offer anything new. nm-connection-editor starts to offer OpenVPN as a connection type when I click "Add", but selecting that results in a dialog with an error message (http://paste.debian.net/1048638/), that disppears if I also install network-manager-openvpn-gnome, but then I get a dialog where I can only save the configuration if I enter the passphrase
10:34<petn-randall>grove: I can select "ask for this password everytime" in the GUI version. Does the TUI version have this?
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10:48<grove>petn-randall: What TUI version? nm-connection-editor is graphical here (but I have X running, so that's not a problem, but it's annoying that I then have to use nmtui to attempt to activate it), and the only checkbox on the VPN tab is "Vis adgangskoder" (danish for "show passwords") - if you want to see, please supply me with the name of a good image pastebin (paste.debian.net is for text)
10:48<mcastillo>I need to run a i386 program under amd64. I have enabled multiarch, but I don't know which package may I have to install. The program that I need to run fails with the message "Could not mmap".
10:50<duclicsic>mcastillo: presumably this application did not come from the official repositories then? is there no documentation on what dependencies it has?
10:51<mcastillo>There is no documentation. It is a BIOS flash tool for an IBM x3200 (an old server).
10:51<mcastillo>it should run in a i386 linux
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10:52<mcastillo>but I have installed amd64 on it :/
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10:56<duclicsic>mcastillo: is the tool named "lflash" ?
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10:57<mcastillo>duclicsic: yes
10:57<mcastillo>I see a lflash64 in the folder also
10:57<duclicsic>yes i was about to mention that
10:58<duclicsic>the docmentation says that should work on x86_64
10:59<duclicsic>it does have a section on dependencies but it's blank, so either it has none or the documentation is incomplete
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11:01<mcastillo>duclicsic: running lflash64 ends up with: Could not mmap, error 9 Segmentation fault
11:01<mcastillo>:/
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11:05<duclicsic>hmm. google is failing me on this one.
11:05<duclicsic>or, my google-fu is failing me
11:08<tarzeau>SpeedyG: http://phd-sid.ethz.ch/appstore/?jumpnbump now it's fun to browse clickcing on "Random package"
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11:15<SpeedyG>tarzeau: nice, but the images dont work yet?
11:16<tarzeau>SpeedyG: depends. if there's an icon, it's shown: https://appstream.debian.org/data/sid/main/icons-128x128.tar.gz if there's a screenshot it's shown, otherwise add it: https://screenshots.debian.net/
11:17<tarzeau>SpeedyG: i should probably also check the package for desktop files and steal all icons from there
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11:17<tarzeau>SpeedyG: this one is complete: http://phd-sid.ethz.ch/appstore/?fonts-blankenburg
11:18<tarzeau>SpeedyG: feel free to add patches :) if you miss anything... icon can be clicked, no idea if it really installs
11:18<tarzeau>SpeedyG: rtfm link works if there's manpages for that packages
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11:44<AndroUser>Hi everyone. Do you know if there's a stance on PHP 7.0 security support after EOL from upstream (Dec 2018)?
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12:07<WPSNY>Is there a good command to send a signal to a pin on a RPi?
12:07<WPSNY>For testing purposes?
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12:12<annadane>AndroUser, i guess try asking #debian-security
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12:13<AndroUser>Will do, thanks annadane!
12:14<petn-randall>AndroUser: It will be supported for the lifetime of stretch, just like anything else.
12:14<petn-randall>(no need to ask there, it's been asked many times before)
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12:18<AndroUser>Ok, petn-randall. Can I ask if that decision is documented on a file in debian's php doc or at least on debian's website?
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12:20<AndroUser>As we're thinking in upgrading some of our apps from jessie & php5.6 to stretch
12:20<petn-randall>AndroUser: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases and https://www.debian.org/security/faq
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12:21<petn-randall>To clarify: PHP is not a special case. This rule applies to all packages in stable.
12:21<AndroUser>Great
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12:27<AndroUser>Understood. I assumed it was a special case just as some Web browsers, owncloud and other sw
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12:28<think>hi
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12:31<petn-randall>AndroUser: For LTS there special cases, but how that's handled is documented on the LTS page.
12:34<AndroUser>Uh ok. Green light to upgrade to stretch, then
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12:42<anarcat>what's the canonical way to deal with linux-image upgrade failures because /boot is too small? (gzip: stdout: No space left on device)
12:42<anarcat>but then i *do* have *some* space on /boot:/dev/sda1 126M 90M 33M 74% /boot
12:42<anarcat>i tried removing older kernels, there's only the currently running one and the upgrade
12:42<petn-randall>anarcat: I usually make sure all the other kernels get removed over time.
12:42<petn-randall>ouch
12:43<anarcat>yeah
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12:46<anarcat>sigh
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12:47<anarcat>how is 33MB not enough for a frigging kernel
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13:01<nyov>anarcat: that must be temporary use while unzipping. maybe you can just move something out for that time, or use a tmpfs blockdevice overlay
13:01<nyov>but I know that feeling. hehe
13:01<anarcat>yeah
13:01<anarcat>thanks for the tips - i found an old BIOS .iso file i could remove
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13:14<Bodiro>Hi! I do not find a clear answer so far, so I like to ask my question here: Which groups should a normal user be in at the beginning?
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13:18<petn-randall>Bodiro: It's own group.
13:19<baniy>hey
13:19<petn-randall>For everything else I'd say "it depends on what you want to do with the user".
13:19<petn-randall>hi baniy
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13:20<lord_rob>Hi! I'd like to temporarly allow ssh as root. How do I do that?
13:21<Bodiro>I mean, can a user use the desktop like browse the internet, use printer, watch videos without being in a special group?
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13:22<petn-randall>lord_rob: `man sshd_config`, look for "PermitRootLogin"
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13:23<Bodiro>petn-randall: Especially, is it necessary to be in group lp to use printer as user?
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13:24<petn-randall>Bodiro: no
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13:24<Bodiro>petn-randall: A clear answer ;-) Thank you!
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13:28<lord_rob>thanks petn-randall
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13:30<petn-randall>lord_rob: you're welcome!
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14:01<petn-randall>hi zyrgo
14:01<zyrgo>how are you pentn
14:02<dboles>!ask
14:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:04<zyrgo>I have a problem with grub installation on parrot
14:04<petn-randall>!parrot
14:04<annadane>!parrot
14:04<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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14:04<petn-randall>zyrgo: Try asking in their support channel. ^^^
14:04<petn-randall>This channel only supports Debian, no derivatives.
14:05<zyrgo>what about kali
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14:06<petn-randall>!kali
14:06<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
14:07<petn-randall>zyrgo: Kali's support channel is there. ^^^
14:08<zyrgo>do they have any chat forums on hexchat?
14:09<bhh>did you read the message?
14:09<annadane>you're confusing irc clients with irc channels
14:09<annadane>everything in irc can be accessed with hexchat
14:09<annadane>!tell zyrgo about whynotpentesting
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14:16<bhh>now i'm curious
14:16<bhh>!whynotpentesting
14:16<dpkg>For some reasons why Kali/Parrot/Other based-on-Debian penetration testing distributions shouldn't be used as a home desktop, see https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/399626/why-is-kali-linux-so-hard-to-set-up-why-wont-people-help-me
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14:18<annadane>i don't want to constantly spam that because yeah derivatives contribute to the ecosystem of free software but if you have to ask about grub and that question about hexchat you're almost certainly not using kali/parrot for their intended use
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14:23<bhh>oh yeah absolutely
14:23<bhh>i was just curious what dpkg had to say about it
14:24<annadane>i'm just saying it because i've tried to dissuade people from using pentesting things and have been told not to, users contribute to the ecosystem, etc
14:24<annadane>but really, it's safer for me to be a bit bitchy about it
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14:24<annadane>if they know what they're doing, fine, but then they wouldn't be asking about parrot/kali in a debian channel... (unless that's still the default irc chan, but even then)
14:24<bhh>makes sense!
14:25<bhh>it very well could be the default chan
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14:46<mnuhmnuh>annadane: i'm with you. they should be running a decent sort of linux to learn what they're doing before they even go near kali et al.
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14:47<sqrt{not}>you wonder, if they're that newbie, how they got onto kali or parrot or whatever, in the first place
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14:48<mnuhmnuh>boutique distros are fun to play with, but treat 'em as toys.
14:49<mnuhmnuh>intartubes told 'em!
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14:52<mnuhmnuh>kali and parrot are only convenient wrappers around what a pro could do with any linux/unix.
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15:08<chaos>hi
15:09<chaos>it seems my 8169sb/8110sb network card isn't working with 4.9.0-8 amd64 kernel
15:09<chaos>help plz
15:10<chaos>r8169 is listed in /var/log/syslog but lspci doesn't show the device
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15:10<annadane>was it working before? maybe it's a firmware issue. what does dmesg | grep -i firmware say? paste.debian.net
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15:11<chaos>just radeon stuff
15:11<chaos>annadane: yes it was
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15:13<chaos>it's a gigE card on the motherboard
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15:20<minikdo>hi, debian 9.5, hard time trying to make udev rule run a command on yubikey insert: ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{ID_VENDOR_ID}=="1050", ENV{ID_MODEL_ID}=="0407", RUN+="/usr/bin/touch /tmp/something". The same with ACTION=="remove" works fine. Any ideas?
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15:35<petn-randall>minikdo: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/178341/udev-rule-action-add-is-working-but-action-remove-isnt-working
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15:38<minikdo>petn-randall: thx, I've just discovered that rule naming change from 20- to 85- helped...
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16:20<lord_rob>Hi! I've finally managed to clone my two debian machines (well I hope so :). Last step is to install grub. I'm using a kubuntu live cd and I'm chrooted in my cloned (using rsync) debian / partition. Now last step is install grub.
16:20<lord_rob>I get the error : "cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted ?)
16:21<lord_rob>any help please?
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16:23<nyov>lord_rob: well, is /dev mounted ?
16:25<lord_rob>I guess not ... Hence the message
16:25<lord_rob>how do I mount it?
16:26<lord_rob>ok I see mount -bind
16:26<nyov>usually before you chroot, and then like `mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev`
16:27<lord_rob>ok thanks
16:27<nyov>also `mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc`, `mount -t sysfs sys /mnt/sys`
16:27<nyov>and then chroot /mnt
16:27<lord_rob>ok I'll do that then
16:28<lord_rob>thanks nyov
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17:35<larbob>Does anyone have experience with the sparc64 port? I'm having issues booting the installer on my Blade 2000.
17:36<larbob>It begins booting and at the part where it seems X is starting, it goes to a black screen
17:36<larbob>I tried boot: install DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text and it hangs after I believe USB is initialized
17:41<larbob>Actually, after starting system log daemons
17:41<mnuhmnuh>see https://wiki.debian.org/Sparc64 - if you've not already.
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17:43<mnuhmnuh>doesn't mention blade 2k.
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17:44<blast007>it does in one spot, talking about how an issue might also happen with the Blade 1000 and 2000
17:44<blast007>but that was for a kernel panic
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17:52<mnuhmnuh>loved sun hardware. earlier stuff. built like battleships.
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17:55<tarzeau>larbob: i've only used it on some old ultrasparcs
17:55<tarzeau>10 years ago :) with silo
17:56<tarzeau>mnuhmnuh: i've only loved the non-sparcs, and only because they ran openstep
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17:56<tarzeau>non-ultrasparcs, that is
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17:58<mnuhmnuh>"The qla2xxx module (for the builtin Fibre Channel (FC) controller) should be blacklisted ...", fwiw.
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18:04<larbob>alright, tried boot: install DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text modprobe.blacklist=qla2xxx
18:05<larbob>and it kernel panics, but variably
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18:18<ais-admin>I have a vm running Debian using the VirtIO ethernet paravirtualized network adapter. What can I use to change the various settings of the virtual adapter? i.e. power saving modes, various offloads, etc. I can use ethtool for some generic behaviours but cant seem to access the VirtIO driver specific settings. suggestions?
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19:11<larbob>What's the best course of action for this issue on the Blade 2000? Should I submit some kind of bug report or keep trying things
19:11<larbob>The only documentation on the B2k on debian seems to be that one little note about a potential kernel panic
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19:13<mnuhmnuh>larbob: i'd hunt for a -sparc64 channel, see if you can connect with those using them. freenet/node/?
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19:19<larbob>mnuhmnuh: ah yes, there is a debian-sparc channel, thanks
19:19<larbob>there are only 8 people in it though :P
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20:03<twb>I have an offsite server with /srv an ext4 directly on a md RAID1 array. I believe one drive has died (array is degraded). Boot is failing (I *think* after switch_root), when systemd fails to fsck /dev/disk/by-label/datasafe-backup
20:04<twb>Is that expected behaviour on Debian 9 if the array is degraded?
20:04<twb>I have fuzzy memories of needing a "bootdegraded" option for the ramdisk, but I think that's only if the rootfs is on the array?
20:07<twb>quacking around a bit, it looks like I am remembering an ubuntu-ish thing in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm, i.e. it's specific to the rootfs's array, and irrelevant in this case
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