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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-10-26

---Logopened Fri Oct 26 00:00:41 2018
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00:05-!-dboehmer___ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:27-!-cyphase is "Cyphase" on @#lost #ceph-devel #ceph @#PrisonBreak #quodlibet #qemu @#house.md @#heroes @#p4xriddle #virt #guardianproject #debian
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00:40-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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00:44-!-aerostitch is "Joseph Herlant" on #debian #debian-ruby
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01:48-!-Strife89 is "Michael Carr" on #debian
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02:49-!-Strife89 is "Michael Carr" on #debian
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02:57-!-cpaelzer is "Christian Ehrhardt" on #virt #debian #debian-qemu
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06:06<teddy>hey lads
06:06<teddy>how we doing
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06:14<dreamer>only the lads?
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06:28<kts>Cinnamon resets laptop screen brightness when idle screen lock.
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08:53<towo^work>premoboss, if you want it like teamviewer, why not using teamviewer?
08:54<premoboss>towo^work, good question. Answer: because teamviewer does not exist for ARM architecture.
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08:55<towo^work>premoboss, https://liquidat.wordpress.com/2008/11/13/short-tip-access-a-running-x-session-via-x11vnc/
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08:58<premoboss>towo^work, thanks!
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09:16<hammam>Hello
09:16<arto>hi hammam
09:16<hammam>Cool, How is it going?
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09:17<arto>hammam: this is Debian support channel, only Debian related questions please
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09:21<hammam>Alright, I have debian Unstable (sid) installed and i want to make use of my graphics card which is "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]" as lspci outputs, However i can't seem to see it being used in games nor blender or 3D Applications and the fglrx drivers for this card do not work on the newest xserver, i had tried downgrading to jessie and trying to install an old version of
09:21<hammam>xserver and fglrx but nothing has worked so far, Also i had tried installing ubuntu 14.04 to try and fix the problem but nothing worked, What shall i do in this situation ?
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09:21<arto>!debian-next
09:21<dpkg>#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
09:22<hammam>Oh ok, Thanks for the help! And sorry if i had bothered anyone.
09:23<arto>hammam: no problem
09:23<hammam>And are you a human?
09:24<towo^work>and btw, fglrx is dead since ages
09:24<arto>hammam: last time I checked from mirror, I would say pretty close
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09:24<towo^work>non-free firmware is all, what's needed for amd graphics
09:24<grove>hammam: dpkg is a bot, the rest of us (?) are humans
09:25<hammam>Oh ok, Also i had enabled "non-free" in sources.list but i still don't know how to make debian use my amd card properly
09:26<mcastillo>I'm having a similar problem in Debian Stable. I have a Radeon ES1000. Firmware is loaded as can be seen in dmesg
09:26<premoboss>grove, maybe someone here is already a IA learning behaviour to beat Turing's Test, who knows :-)
09:26<towo^work>hammam, apt install firmware-amd-graphics
09:26<hammam>Alright!
09:26<mcastillo>glxgears shows libGL error: failed to create dri screen and libGL error: failed to load driver: radeon
09:27<grove>premoboss: That was sort-of included in the follow-up I was typing
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09:28<grove>(it seems our other semi-resident bot: judd, is absent at the moment)
09:28<hammam>i had installed it, But how do i know if my card is working?
09:28<premoboss>grove, mmm someone beat you on time. Interesting...
09:28<arto>hammam: sid for gaming, hmm, I'd say not the best combination
09:29<hammam>Why not?
09:29<arto>hammam: you know what sid is?
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09:30<hammam>Yes, It's the unstable version of debian which provides me the latest versions of the programs. Correct me if i'm wrong..
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09:30<arto>unstable/experimental
09:31<hammam>....So ?
09:31<arto>hammam: well, your mileage might vary
09:32<arto>!sid
09:32<dpkg>from memory, sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that when it breaks, you get to keep ALL the pieces!!
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09:35<hammam>Well, The worst thing that happened to me is that i had removed apt because something didn't work well then i downloaded it again and reinstalled, I have a bunch of errors in it but i'll talk about it later...
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09:35<hammam>Yeah i remember moving from buster to backports to sid, That was a stupid move
09:37<hammam>Anyways i only came here to find a solution to my AMD card, Ok so now i just wanna test it, If you don't think you can help me with that i'll try looking it up online..
09:38<arto>hammam: we support stable here, debian-next is for testing and unstable, but you got adviced already anyway
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09:40<hammam>Alright thanks for the help! I really am glad for installing this great OS! See y'all later! <3
09:40<hammam>!debian-next
09:40<dpkg>#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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10:21<user>yo
10:22<user>when i am going to get my money
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10:22<Guest1424>send it over my bitcoin account
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10:22<Guest1424>bye
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10:25<traumschule>is it safe to kill python3 /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade
10:25<traumschule>noticed the ugrade because of an amazing load and wont to stop it asap
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10:26<traumschule>*want
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10:28<traumschule>(dpkg doesn't perform well when apt/archives sits on drive connected with a pre-usb3 port)
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10:30<traumschule>mh, it ignores a normal kill, so i guess not. probably waiting for dpkg to finish
10:30<traumschule>killing dpkg leads to havoc, so i wont touch it
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10:31<traumschule>it was friendly enough to stop in the meantime :)
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10:41<nezoriel>Hey, i have a short question. I am identified on freenode and login me succesfull but i cant join the debian-kde channel.
10:43<itd>nezoriel: ask #freenode on freenode?
10:44<nezoriel>okay thanks
10:44<blast007>"This channel is closed. Please join us in #debian-kde on OFTC: irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-kde"
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10:45<blast007>(that's the chanserv entry message for #debian-kde on Freenode)
10:46<nezoriel>okay, now i understand why it not work. Its closed.
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13:53<premoboss>hello, i export X11 session with x11vnc, it work ok and i can control the remote PC from my PC. i wish to do more: when i take controll of gui, on the controlled pc (running x11vnc) the monitor must be black, or if possible, to show a image that i choose (i.e. "WORK IN PROGRESS"). is it possible? o look onside trhe several option of x11vnc (man x11vnc) but i did not find a solution.
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14:23<jhutchins_wk>premoboss: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2018-14665
14:23<jhutchins_wk>GUIs are inherently insecure.
14:24<premoboss>jhutchins_wk, i am not looking for security.
14:25<arto>vnc
14:25<premoboss>im am working on a peer-to-peer situation with direct cable connection between the 2 PCs.
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14:39<arto>premoboss: I've not used x11vnc, but usually vnc's just provide the remote control procedure, not more. If that function you are seeking is not in the man page, then there most likely is not such option.
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14:42<somiaj>Though if all you want is some warning, you could create some sort of notification window with this warning and place it somehwere. Though it will be shown in both locations.
14:43<somiaj>You could then automate your login to bring this window up, then close it when disonnected (in theory)
14:43<premoboss>arto, do you know some tricks? i trued to "oscurate" the display using "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fb0": the device is filled (no memory left) but nothing change on the display.
14:44<premoboss>somiaj, the targed dsiplat should be disabilitate/freezed to avoid the person in front of it play with.
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14:44<premoboss>i was trying to oszurate it wit dd without success.
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14:45<arto>premoboss: ssh is enough for me, sorry, don't know any tricks
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14:45<premoboss>arto, ok thanks the same.
14:47<somiaj>premoboss: such a feature might not be possible, since you are sharing the same xorg session.
14:47<somiaj>I was just suggesting a way you could at least notify the user of a remote user connecting.
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14:48<somiaj>do you really want to connect to the same xsession or just have a remote gui? Though I to use ssh + tmux (or screen) for this, because I really don't need to connect to the same gui, and things I need to access from different terminals live in screen/tmux
14:48<premoboss>somiaj, i can run a ssh command on target PC if needed.
14:48<premoboss>my need is to take remote control of a running gui.
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14:49<premoboss>also i will like to "obscure" or place a "advise of "men at work" on the remote display while i am working on it.
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14:53<arto>premoboss: so you would need remote gui to show you normal gui, but blank screen/warning locally? That sounds like a challenge
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14:56<premoboss>arto, let me explain better: PC_A = remote pc (the one that i need to control) PC_B = my PC. the need is to export the current session running on display :0 on PC_A on PC_B (an this is done with x11vnc). furter need is to place an advise "MAN AT WORK" (text or image no matter) of pphisical displat of PC_B an at the same time avoid ani kint of mouse/keibord activities on PC_B unstil i finissh to operate on it. as soon as i "get out", display and control
14:56<premoboss>of PC_B are restored back in the hand of local user.
14:57<retrospectacus>You'd have to use a different VNC client, one that starts a new remote session instead of capturing the existing display like x11vnc does. Then augment your script that runs it, to run some full screen dialog on the existing display
14:57<retrospectacus>This has a disadvantage that it does not capture the current remote session.
14:58<premoboss>arto, let me explain better: PC_A = remote pc (the one that i need to control) PC_B = my PC. the need is to export the current session running on display :0 on PC_A on PC_B (and this is done with x11vnc). further need is to place an advise "MAN AT WORK" (text or image no matter) of phisical display of PC_A and at the same time avoid ani kind of mouse/keibord activities on PC_A unstil i finissh to operate on it. as soon as i "get out", display and
14:58<premoboss>control of PC_A are restored back in the hand of local user.
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14:58<retrospectacus>The issue you will have with what you are trying to do is that if you have only one session, appearing on both, then they will show the same thing
14:59<premoboss>retrospectacus, ti start a new session is not possible because i must operate on those applications opend on that current session.
14:59<blast007>is it possible to disable local keyboard/mouse inpu?
14:59<arto>thatäs
14:59<blast007>input*
14:59<arto>that's exactly what I'm thinking, how would you make two display out of one
14:59<premoboss>blast007, i thin yes. i can enter into PC_A in ssh as root and plan with dbus or some else dirty tricks.
15:00<arto>and select the right one for vnc..
15:00<premoboss>arto, that is the challenge.
15:00<arto>good luck!
15:00<premoboss>newer tried before, came here to search for help if possible.
15:01<blast007>http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/fit-headless/ potentially, with that you could make the system running x11vnc think you have two screens attached, but only have one active at any time (switched with xrandr?)
15:01<blast007>dunno if x11vnc would get cranky about that
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16:46<ashen>hey, I'm trying to set up a second screen with my Thinkpad laptop, not sure where to start. basic issue right now is that my machine does not recognize the TV I've plugged in
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16:54<ashen>anyone have an idea of what to do? currently not finding much useful info
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16:57<ach>can you post a dmesg output?
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17:01<grove>ashen: What have you actually tried, when you say it doesn't recognise the TV? Does xrandr see it?
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17:10<madonius>ashen what are you expecting to happen when you plug it in?
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17:50<ashen>grove madonius, it seemed to work after turning the TV on and off, it was that simple. xrandr had not been able to see it before. always the simple things for some reason...
17:51<somiaj>maybe that triggered your system to be able ot read the EDID of the monintor.
17:51<somiaj>that should happen when you plug it in, but not all TVs are that good.
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21:12<wintercatfish>Hello
21:12<mnuhmnuh>try "!hi"
21:12<wintercatfish>!hi
21:12<dpkg>hello, wintercatfish
21:12<wintercatfish>nice
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21:13<wintercatfish>I'm having problems installing Debian
21:13<wintercatfish>I just get black screen when I try to boot from USB
21:13<wintercatfish>I already turned of secure boot and fast boot
21:14<wintercatfish>Anyone knows what it could be?
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21:14<mnuhmnuh>wintercatfish: describe your hardware; nvidia graphics?
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21:15<wintercatfish>It's a laptop, onboard graphics
21:15<wintercatfish>Celeron x64 processor
21:16<mnuhmnuh>lspci | grep -i graphics
21:16<wintercatfish>It's Windows
21:16<wintercatfish>I can't boot from the USB
21:17<wintercatfish>I just get black screen with the white underline on the top left
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21:17<mnuhmnuh>i just ran into a box which wouldn't boot usb; had to resort to cd/dvd.
21:18<wintercatfish>No CD drive unfortunately :/[
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21:19<awal1>how you burned your image into your usb
21:22<wintercatfish>Rufus
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21:22<mnuhmnuh>there's good and bad ways in win* for cp'ing iso's to usbkey. wiki.debian.org
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21:32<mnuhmnuh>which i cannot find. how best to iso --> usbkey via win*?
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21:33<awal1>!rufus
21:33<dpkg>rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
21:33<awal1>!win32diskimager
21:33<dpkg>win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details.
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21:34<awal1>wintercatfish ^
21:34<wintercatfish>ty
21:35<awal1>and be sure to use amd64 image bcoz of uefi support
21:35<wintercatfish>I'll try it out
21:35<mnuhmnuh>well, there's your problem.
21:35<awal1>i386 too should have support for uefi
21:36<awal1>dpkgÑ uefi i386
21:36<awal1>dpkg: uefi i386
21:36<dpkg>awal1: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
21:36<awal1>dpkg, peace
21:36<dpkg>awal1: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
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21:38<mnuhmnuh>dpkg stfu
21:38<dpkg>it has been said that stfu is Shut The Fuck Up
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22:00<mnuhmnuh>crap. the only hit on the wiki for win32diskimager is https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/RaspberryPiWorkstation?highlight=%28win32diskimager%29
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22:06<wintercatfish>win32diskimager didn't work
22:06<wintercatfish>:/
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22:26<mnuhmnuh>define "didn't work"
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22:42<gera>|HOLA
22:42<gera>ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL?
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22:43<awal1>!es
22:43<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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