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00:02<mnuhmnuh>sytsem sounds? that's high level de/wm/theme stuff. control center..
00:09<m_g_lewis>mnuhmnuh: What do you mean control center?
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00:12<mnuhmnuh>i run mte. top left menu system, "System --> Control Center"
00:12<mnuhmnuh>i run mate. top left menu system, "System --> Control Center"
00:13<m_g_lewis>I'm running Debian 9.5 with LXDE...
00:14<mnuhmnuh>it should have the same thing, but different.
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00:15<mnuhmnuh>i'm going to bed now, others may help.
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00:26<coding_>Hello everyone
00:27<coding_> Is anyone here?
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02:45<silver>!debian
02:45<dpkg>methinks debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
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02:45<silver>debian is the center of the universe http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
02:46<silver>^ how to make revision to DpkgBot?
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02:51<silver>the factoids are locked
02:57<silver>dpkg, debian <reply> debian is the center of the universe http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
02:57<dpkg>silver: i already had it that way
02:57<silver>dpkg, debian is <reply> debian is the center of the universe http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
02:57<dpkg>silver: cannot alter locked factoids
02:57<dpkg>silver: You are person #3 to send an unparseable request
02:58<jm_>you can talk to dpkg the bot via /msg
03:01<silver>yes i have been but im hoping someone with supercow powers can do it since the factoids are locked. Now its noted in the logfile and easily searchable. Seems this task is on my top ten things todo before i pass away list.
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03:30*jelly wonders what silver was trying to accomplish, apart from vandalizing the "debian" factoid
03:31<jelly>silver: while dpkg's database has some silliness, maybe keep the major stuff free of it?
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03:33<silver>seriously? i'm being serious.
03:33<silver>not silly
03:33<silver>Dont you get it
03:33<silver>Debian, the universal operating system.
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03:34<silver>dont forget it
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03:36<silver>Then when you actually do the math, ALL of the derivatives are debian... add the sum and debian is the largest portion of the linux/unix operating system pie
03:37<silver>compare that with the non unix like operating systems and debian still comes out on top
03:37<silver>how much of debian is in android?
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03:40<silver>obvisouly the only competitor is the butterfly but considering the overall cost and the fact butterflys are only momentary... debian will indeed be the center of the universe... especially if/and when quantum computing finds its first mainstream operating system
03:41<SalveMundus>Hi, I had a crash on debian testing last week. Is it right, that /var/log/syslog is the best point to start searching for the reason?
03:41<itd>SalveMundus: testing support is in #debian-next
03:42<SalveMundus>I thought its only for unstable, but thanks. :-)
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07:53<user_>kech
07:53<KSDJBGF>ei
07:54<user_>ya esta
07:54<KSDJBGF>enga
07:54<KSDJBGF>hello
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07:54<user_>waw
07:54<grove>!chat
07:54<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
07:55<user_>okey
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07:56<KechKech>ahora
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07:56<Scoprion>e
07:56<KechKech>ACTION
07:56<KechKech>me &2
07:56<Scoprion>ban KechKech
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07:58<DNS>!ban Scoprion
07:58<DNS>;)
07:58<Scoprion>rh
07:58<Scoprion>hi
07:58<grove>Please stop it!
07:58<Scoprion>do you speak spanish?
07:58<grove>!es
07:58<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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07:59<Scoprion>como puedo hacer un canal privado
07:59<abrotman>Scoprion: This is an English channel, you might want #debian-es
07:59<itd>Scoprion: Kali, parrot or Debian?
07:59<abrotman>Scoprion: /join #debian-es
07:59<Scoprion>parrot
08:00<itd>dpkg: parrot
08:00<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
08:00<grove>!parrot
08:00<Scoprion>parrot is best
08:00<abrotman>oh, well, then ..
08:00<itd>Scoprion: Read what dpkg said.
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08:00<grove>No, parrot is not the best, Debian is the best!
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08:01<KechKech>can you send me a list commands?
08:01<bremner>please don't feed the trolls.
08:01<Scoprion>?
08:01<abrotman>KechKech: commands for what?
08:01<grove>We can ask you to go somewhere else
08:01<KechKech>commands for hacking
08:01<Scoprion>comand hacking please
08:02-!-mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ
08:02<SpeedyG>!best
08:02-!-KechKech was kicked from #debian by abrotman [you should know better]
08:02-!-mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman
08:02<dpkg>Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
08:02-!-mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ
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08:02<DNS>Scoprion and KechKech = the same
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08:02<SpeedyG>sure as hell looks like it yes
08:02<abrotman>I'm sure one of thtem will understand they're not wanted here
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08:03<SpeedyG>doubt it.. but your approach is sufficient ;)
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10:07<mome>Hi folks, we are having some spam at #debian-es channel for the last days, is there a way to ban or avoid this, some chat administrator?
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10:13<abrotman>mome: you'll have to talk to the channel admins
10:13<abrotman>Unfortunately, they have to allow others to take action (they haven't done so yet)
10:14<mome>abrotman: I need some help. How can I know who is an administrator in that channel?
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10:18<abrotman>mome: /msg chanserv info #debian-es
10:18<abrotman>that's a good start
10:19<mome>abrotman: Great, thanks a lot.
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12:05<sqrt{not}>I succeeded to install systemd 239-11 from stretch-backports. aptitude VERY helpful to find the several parts needed. running now, seems OK.
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12:19<mitsugu>yo
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12:20<mitsugu>does anyone knows hot to put a user in the sudoers file?
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12:22<toto-ID-465>Use visudo command for that
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12:23<arto>mitsugu: you need only add user to sudo group: as root 'adduser $USER sudo', logout && login
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12:25<mitsugu>already done,but when i try "sudo -i" as user, still say is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
12:25<arto>mitsugu: groups
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13:30<shellhost>so, I'm having issues with pcieport. This is what shows in dmesg: https://paste.debian.net/1049595/
13:32<shellhost>this is the output of lscpi | grep 1c.5: 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #6 (rev f1)
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13:33<petn-randall>shellhost: And what issues do you have with it besides the log entries?
13:35<shellhost>petn-randall: I can't determine if I'm having any issues other than log entries
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13:38<shellhost>It could be related to some WIFI power management issues, but I can't tell if they're related
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14:27<LoRez>I'm attempting to get tinyproxy to run as a different user. The init script seems to dig around in the config to get the correct user/group combo and apply it to the PID dir, but something else is messing around with that and causing it to not be able to be considered configured by dpkg. Anybody have any pointers as to where I should look to fix this better?
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14:45<someusername>does anyone know how to properly setup my headphones (with integrated microphone) on debian? on pulseaudio mixer, they work for playing audio, but the microphone isn't recognized anywhere. my laptop audio card just has one input for headphone with integrated mic. it worked properly under windows with a realtek software, is there something of that alike here with pulseaudio to make it work? the
14:45<someusername>integrated mic is crappy...
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14:47<mnuhmnuh>someusername: you may need firmware-realtek?
14:47<someusername>hmmm
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14:47<someusername>but my audio works fine as is for playback
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14:47<someusername>and the integrated mic works as well
14:48<someusername>"Binary firmware for Realtek wired and wireless network adapters"
14:48<someusername>and it doesn't really seem fit for audio driver
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14:55<TobiX>someusername: Which desktop?
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14:58<TobiX>someusername: In KDE you can configure PulseAudio's idea of inputs and outputs the control center, otherwise you can use pavucontrol for that
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15:25<someusername>TobiX: laptop, asus laptop
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15:25<someusername>And I'm using xfce, there is input on pulseaudio mixer
15:25<someusername>put it only lists the monitors integrated microphone
15:25<someusername>not my headphones (earbuds) integrated mic
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15:28<TobiX>someusername: Start pavucontrol, open the configuration tab and select the correct duplex mode for speakers & microphone
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15:30<mnuhmnuh>someusername: you sure this isn't bluetooth related (why i suggested firmware)? perhaps that's where you should look. go with TobiX' suggest for now.
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15:35<someusername>mnuhmnuh: the earbuds are analog...
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15:37<someusername>TobiX: https://i.postimg.cc/3J91RSK0/Screenshot-2018-10-29-19-36-37.png
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15:37<someusername>It's what I said I had, it only shows one microphone
15:37<someusername>the integrated
15:37<someusername>it doesn't show the one that comes with the headphones
15:37<someusername>(one port for headphones+microphone on my laptop (combined))
15:37<TobiX>someusername: Next tab "configuration"...
15:39<someusername>https://i.postimg.cc/jSp7dPJJ/Screenshot-2018-10-29-19-38-55.png https://i.postimg.cc/2SZ1JyXj/Screenshot-2018-10-29-19-39-09.png
15:39<someusername>TobiX
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15:42<TobiX>someusername: Looks like your audio hardware is not properly supported... There are just so many configurations...
15:43<someusername>but it recognizes the headphones in output, any reason why it fails on input devices? :-/
15:44<TobiX>someusername: This is how it looks for my X230: https://i.imgur.com/DQgAgUV.png
15:44<TobiX>someusername: Because audio routing is hard and plentiful and undocumented
15:44<someusername>yeah, that's what i wanted to get
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15:48<fredg>Bonjour, j'ai un soucis avec opengl 4.20 sur debian quelqu'un pourrait m'aider svp?
15:49<bremner>!fr
15:49<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
15:49<TobiX>someusername: Here is the big table of "oh my god, this hardware doesn't tell us anything": https://lxr.missinglinkelectronics.com/linux/sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c#L1065
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15:50<fredg>Hello, i have a problem with opengl 4.20 on debian, who to help me please?
15:50<TobiX>someusername: Your best bet is probably finding some ALSA developer who can help you find the correct "quirks" for your hardware, so every feature is usable...
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15:51<TobiX>someusername: Starting point: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/HDA_Analyzer
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15:55<fredg>Hello, i have a problem with opengl 4.20 on debian, who to help me please?
15:55<towo`>fredg, as long, as you don't tell your problem, no one will or can help you
15:56<fredg>what?
15:56<TobiX>someusername: Is this your hardware? "ALSA: hda - Fix headphone pin config for ASUS G751"
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15:57<gintonyc>He said don't ask for the problem and tell us what is your problem ;)
15:57<jhutchins_wk>fredg: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead?
15:58<TobiX>someusername: If not, can you tell me the pciid (lspci -nn) of your sound card?
15:59<TobiX>fredg: And what is OpenGL 4.20? The newest version of OpenGL is 4.6
16:00<fredg>i have a problem with Intel HD Graphics 4000
16:00<fredg>the driver is the generic in debian non intel
16:01<fredg>i don't find the intel driver
16:01<someusername>TobiX: yes, it's my hardware
16:01<fredg>or a solution to work opengl
16:01<towo`>fredg, apt install xserver-xorg-video-intel
16:01<someusername>it's an asus x555l and 00:03.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller [8086:160c] (rev 09)
16:02<someusername>surprisingly, the only thing realtek here is the ethernet controller.
16:02<someusername>not sure why a control panel used to be installed on windows
16:02<fredg>cxserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version (2:2.99.917+git20161206-1).
16:02<fredg>xserver-xorg-video-intel passé en « installé manuellement ».
16:02<fredg>:/
16:02<someusername>and this thing 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller [8086:9ca0] (rev 03)
16:02<towo`>fredg, debian is using modesetting by default for X
16:03<towo`>fredg, if you want to use the intel ddx, you have to create a minimal x-config for it
16:03<fredg>what is modesetting?
16:03<fredg>yes
16:03<fredg>how to
16:03<gintonyc>xserver-xorg-video-modesetting and remove intel
16:03<towo`>gintonyc, no!
16:03<fredg>(sorry my english is poor)
16:03<towo`>hie want intel
16:03<towo`>*he
16:04<gintonyc>?
16:04<TobiX>someusername: Funny thing you need Realtek software under windows, since this is an Intel chipset...
16:05<jhutchins_wk>Possibly more than one card?
16:05<towo`>fredg, mkdir -p cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and create there a file called 20-intel.conf with the following content: http://paste.debian.net/1049620/
16:05<towo`>grr
16:05<someusername>it's seriously weird
16:05<jhutchins_wk>fredg: lspci -nn, post just the VGA line.
16:05<towo`>fredg, mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and create there a file called 20-intel.conf with the following content: http://paste.debian.net/1049620/
16:05<someusername>maybe they were using the control panel to do some fuckery to make the integrated microphone work
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16:06<gintonyc>towo, i don't undertand, official wiki : https://wiki.debian.org/GraphicsCard#Intel
16:06<gintonyc>it said to remove intel and install modesetting, his car is an HD 4000
16:07<towo`>gintonyc, he is using modesetting
16:07<towo`>gintonyc, it's the default in debian
16:07<TobiX>someusername: Well, that looks like a bog-standard Broadwell integrated audio controller, supported on Linux since v3.15-rc6-572-g54a0405dda57
16:07<fredg>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [8086:0166] (rev 09)
16:07<gintonyc>ok
16:07<towo`>gintonyc, and again, he wants to use the intel-ddx
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16:10<fredg>i have create the file with "http://paste.debian.net/1049620/"
16:10<fredg>and after?
16:10<towo`>restart x
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16:10<someusername>TobiX: the audio itself works, what doesnt is the microphone
16:10<someusername>is there a separate thing for it?
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16:12<fredg><towo`> restart x --> it's for me?
16:12<towo`>sure
16:13<fredg>just "http://paste.debian.net/1049620/" in the file?
16:13<fredg>no command?
16:13<someusername>whoah, didnt know debian had a pastebin
16:13<towo`>that's a config file, what command you want to see?
16:14<mnuhmnuh>someusername: install pastebinit
16:15<mnuhmnuh>someusername: "pastebinit $file" or "$somecommand | pastebinit"
16:16<fredg>it's too difficult
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16:16<towo`>fredg, what is difficult?
16:16<fredg>i have do touch for the file
16:16<fredg>and gedit
16:16<fredg>and paste the line
16:17<mnuhmnuh>fredg: you're just trying to force x to use intel driver.
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16:21<mnuhmnuh>fredg: no, that paste.debian.net is not to go in the file. surf to that page and you'll see what goes in 20-intel.conf
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16:22<towo`>!nvidia dkms
16:22<dpkg>For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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16:23<towo`>fredg, mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "intel"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-imtel.conf
16:23<fredg>it's intel
16:23<towo`>fredg, if you want a command
16:24<fredg>ok i have tried you command
16:24<fredg>mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
16:25<fredg>echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "intel"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-imtel.conf
16:25<fredg>root@pc:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d#
16:25<mnuhmnuh>imtel.conf
16:25<towo`>now restart x and your system is using the intel ddx
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16:26*mnuhmnuh shouldn't matter.
16:27<towo`>mnuhmnuh, for hd4000 you are right
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16:27<fredg>ok thank you i rebbot
16:27<fredg>restart
16:28<towo`>for any later as skylake, modesetting-ddx is suboptimal
16:28<mnuhmnuh>towo`: i meant the name of the file, imtel instead of intel
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16:29<towo`>mnuhmnuh, oh, i thought you mean the ddx doesn't matter ;)
16:29<mnuhmnuh>proofreaders r us.
16:29<towo`>mut yes it's only a name
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16:29<towo`>ant could even be named 30-freaking.conf
16:30<towo`>as long it has a number in front and .conf as extention and is living in thet directory
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16:43<fredg>re
16:44<fredg>after restart
16:44<fredg>argument non valid in the file
16:44<fredg>starx no valid
16:44<fredg>i have remove le line in file
16:44<fredg>always the problem
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16:47<mnuhmnuh>fredg: send /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf (or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-imtel.conf) --> paste.debian.net
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16:49<fredg>in 20-imtel.conf or 20-intel.conf?
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16:50<mnuhmnuh>which exists now?
16:50<mnuhmnuh>send that to p.d.n
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16:51<fredg>:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d$ dir
16:51<fredg>20-imtel.conf 20-intel.conf
16:51*mnuhmnuh gogle.
16:52<fredg>in 20-imtel.conf -----> Section "Device"
16:52<fredg> Identifier "My GPU"
16:52<fredg> Driver "intel"
16:52<fredg>EndSection
16:52<fredg>in 20-intel.conf it empty
16:53<mnuhmnuh>i'd diff thew two, blow away the extraneous one, check the other's correct, then restart x.
16:53<fredg>the line paste before don't work
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16:54<mnuhmnuh>rm 20-intel.conf
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16:54<fredg>yes
16:54<mnuhmnuh>shouldn't matter if empty.
16:55<fredg>otherwise it is not possible to instal the pilot of the card directly?
16:56<fredg>i don't understand
16:56<mnuhmnuh>fredg: i don't know why it's not just using intel now. should be.
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16:58<fredg>when I have redemarré with the line copied in the fichié, in the restart he said to me that the line am wrong I abolished him of 20-intel-conf
16:59<fredg>when I have restart with the line copied in the file, in the restart he said to me that the line am wrong I abolished him of 20-intel-conf
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17:00<mnuhmnuh>fredg: wrong filename? 20-intel-conf vs. 20-intel.conf?
17:00<fredg>otherwise I found this site, but I understood nothing
17:00<fredg>https://01.org/linuxgraphics/forum/graphics-installer-discussions/intel-hd-graphics-4000-linux
17:01<fredg>no, the line paste in 20-intel.conf
17:02<fredg>paste.debian.net
17:03<mnuhmnuh>what url did p.d.n report it was saved to?
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17:05<fredg>it seems to me that it not the not spelt similar etait when I copied it me goes re-tried and me keeps you posted
17:05*mnuhmnuh damn, i wish i were multi-lingual. :-|
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17:06<fredg>i have paste --> paste.debian.net in 20-intel.conf
17:07<fredg>i restart
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17:08*mnuhmnuh it doesn't help to paste to p.d.n if you don't tell what p.d.n reports back to use as lookup url. :-P
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17:13<mnuhmnuh>what does "i have paste --> paste.debian.net in 20-intel.conf" mean? argh.
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17:14<fredg>not work
17:15<fredg>"failed to start lightdm display.."
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17:16<mnuhmnuh>fredg: suggest post /var/log/Xorg.0.log --> p.d.n
17:17<mnuhmnuh>what url does it report back to access your post?
17:17<fredg>what's p.d.n?
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17:17<mnuhmnuh>!pastebin
17:17<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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17:18<mnuhmnuh>paste.debian.net
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17:20<batman>hey
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17:23<fredg>i don't understand
17:24<fredg>you want to paste Xorg.0.log?
17:25<mnuhmnuh>fredg: http://paste.debian.net is a way for you to show anyone a file. point web browser there, upload file, tell us what URL it reports back, we'll surf there, and cogitate.
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17:27<mnuhmnuh>Xorg.0.log is your machine's log of what happened when it tried to start X Window.
17:27<fredg>ok
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17:31<fredg>I owe the file upload "Xorg.0.log " on paste.debian.net? And after this is going to give me what?
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17:35<mnuhmnuh>eyes on the prize? others looking at your problem? why's this so difficult? the language barrier is damned frustrating.
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17:38<fredg>yes, thank you nevertheless
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17:55<sqrt{not}>fredg: after you paste to paste.debian.net, it will tell you a http URL. tell that URL to us
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18:23<nyoron>the remote systemd vulnerability is still unfixed in Debian stable 5 days after the public disclosure
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18:27<nyoron>installing from backports is one solution, but I have never heard that you are supposed to use backports to keep your Debian safe
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18:28<somiaj>nyoron: do you have the CVE for that exploit? Also what makes you think the backport version is also secure, it is most likely older than the fix too (or did the vuln only affect certain versions of systemd)
18:29<mnuhmnuh>"the remote systemd vulnerability" == what?
18:29<nyoron>https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2018-15688
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18:31<somiaj>nyoron: note the very bottom comment, "systemd-networkd not enabled by default in Debian" -- debian doesn't use networkd by default, so this vuln only affects those who have enabled it. Thus it might not be on the highest priority to fix, since it won't affect most Debian systems.
18:31<somiaj>also check the bug report linked there for more info on the fix.
18:32<somiaj>ahh the bug report seems to only fix the version in sid. Maybe it takes a bit of work to backport it to stretches version (and as mentioned, it might not be the highest priority since it won't affect most Debian systems)
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18:55<sqrt{not}>somiaj: the sid version of systemd is 239-11, the stretch-bpo version is 239-11
18:55<sqrt{not}>both pushed yesterday as source
18:56<sim590>Could the "dpkg" bot mention also #debian-quebec as a source of help in french ? Québec is a considerably big part of french speaking population of the world.
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18:59<somiaj>sqrt{not}: ahh missed that, so I guess the backport version is there if someone is actually using networkd and needs a fix. Still unsure any plans security has to fix the version in stretch. My guess is it is just low priority since it doesn't affect default Debian systems.
19:01<somiaj>sim590: It could. I'm unsure on if it should or not. I could update it, thinking of saying join #debian-fr or #debian-quebec (but unsure on any network/social issues with pointing to both)
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19:12<somiaj>sim590: I updated it. If it ends up causing issues we may have to remove it (though I doubt it)
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19:31<mnuhmnuh>sim590: why debian-quebec when debian-french? not hostile, but amalgamate?
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19:36<mnuhmnuh>if you can at least understand what participants are saying ...
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19:40<sdk>mnuhmnuh: it's the localgroup channel vs. #debian-fr is a support channel in French.
19:42<sdk>oh wrong user. I mean sim590.
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19:45<mnuhmnuh> #debian-quebec should be specific to stuff specific to debian in Quebec, CA. #debian-fr to debian, french lang. support.
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19:47<sdk>yep exactly.
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19:51<Aswad>Hi guys
19:51<Aswad>I'm having a issue with my Debian 9
19:51<Aswad>been trying to fix it for 2 days still no luck
19:53<mnuhmnuh>Aswad: got any intereresting log entries you'd care to show us --> paste.debian.net
19:53<Aswad>-- Unit opendkim.service has finished shutting down. Oct 29 23:48:46 server systemd[1]: opendkim.service: Start request repeated too quickly. Oct 29 23:48:46 server systemd[1]: Failed to start OpenDKIM DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Milter. -- Subject: Unit opendkim.service has failed -- Defined-By: systemd -- Support: https://www.debian.org/support -- -- Unit opendkim.service has failed. -- -- The result is failed. Oct 29 23:48:46 server systemd[1]:
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19:54<Aswad>i tried almost everything, removed opendkim
19:54<Aswad>cleared dpkg entries
19:54<Aswad>reinstalled opendkim but still the same thing
19:54<Aswad>I'm trying to set a web host on a vps
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19:57<itd>Aswad: Any log entries for 'journalctl -u opendkim.service'?
19:57<mnuhmnuh>never heard of opendkim.
19:57<Aswad>opendkim used to set for mail servers
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19:58<Aswad>SPF, DKIM and DMARC are stricktly required now a days for mail servers
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19:58<Aswad>mnuhmnuh can i chat with you in private?
19:59<Aswad>you might get me any help
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20:00<mnuhmnuh>Aswad: i am retired, long past my time, out of it, use the channel.
20:00<Aswad>ok buddy
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20:01<Aswad>mnuhmnuh, do you have any idea how should i complete remove a service from debian and reinstall it?
20:02<mnuhmnuh>Aswad: "systemctl disable $Whatever.service"
20:03<Aswad>ok bro
20:03<Aswad>already doing it
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20:04*mnuhmnuh not a bro. i'm a dog.
20:04<Aswad>ok
20:05<Aswad>here what i did, i disabled the service
20:05<Aswad>then installed it again
20:05<Aswad>tried to start it
20:05<Aswad>still the same error in journal -xe
20:05<Aswad>any ideas?
20:05<mnuhmnuh>????????????????????????????
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20:06<Aswad>systemctl disable opendkim
20:06<mnuhmnuh>thimk?
20:06<mnuhmnuh>log entries? --> paste.debian.net?
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20:09<Aswad>Job for opendkim.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status opendkim.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. root@server:~# journalctl -xe -- -- The result is failed. Oct 30 00:08:12 server systemd[1]: opendkim.service: Unit entered failed state. Oct 30 00:08:12 server systemd[1]: opendkim.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Oct 30 00:08:12 server systemd[1]: opendkim.service: Service hold-off time ov
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20:10*mnuhmnuh i get too easily emotionally involved in user support probs. drat.
20:10<Aswad>Oct 30 00:08:12 server systemd[1]: opendkim.service: Service hold-off time over, scheduling restart. Oct 30 00:08:12 server systemd[1]: Stopped OpenDKIM DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Milter. -- Subject: Unit opendkim.service has finished shutting down -- Defined-By: systemd
20:11<Aswad>i'm stuck here
20:11<Aswad>if i couldn't step ahead, i had to start it over
20:11<Aswad>from a fresh install debian
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20:16<mnuhmnuh>what's wrong with a fresh install of debian? the more you do it, the better you get at it.
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22:00<AciD`>is there a debian mirror for the php packages on sury.org?
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23:05<shellhost>minor issue, but why does this appear on dmesg: https://paste.debian.net/1049657/
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23:07<shellhost>I know that it's related to wifi drivers, I also installed firmware-atheros from the non-free repos
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