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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-10-30

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02:41<twb>jm_: was it you who I was talking to about my kernel vs. DVD problem?
02:42<twb>I think I've isolated the (direct) cause: scripts/config --disable modules
02:42<twb>static kernel seems to fail and dynamic (with .ko's and modprobe) seems to work
02:42<twb>
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02:47<jm_>twb: yup
02:47<jm_>twb: that's bizarre
02:47<twb>I have a suspicion that this might tie into
02:48<twb>debian-live probes all block devices to look for its own rootfs
02:48<twb>it's printing some crap about not being able to read sr0 because encrypted, probably because deCSS isn't in the ramdisk
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02:48<twb>I wonder if being static somehow prevents that from "resetting" after switch_root
02:49<twb>I should probably check if those errors are popping up on the working builds - I stupidly ASSUMED they were
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02:55<jm_>twb: so those debug options did not reveal anything?
02:55<twb>>_>... <_<...
02:55<twb>I didn't actually do that yet
02:55<twb>Because I was like "I'm sure I can just guess which option is the problem pretty quickly"
02:55<twb>That was yesterday morning :P
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02:59<jm_>hmm so maybe you can put decss stuff in ramdisk?
02:59<twb>the rootfs is on NFS anyway with an explicit path
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03:00<twb>So I will actually try just ripping out that stupid dba-era live-boot script
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03:05<twb>(That's assuming deCSS is even the actual problem; it's more likely to be that e.g. some workarouund is in /etc/modprobe.d and thus not applied.)
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03:22<twb>FTR, nothing in mass-storage
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03:35<room>hi
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03:36<room>have from russia???
03:36<twb>!ru
03:36<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.oftc.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
03:38<room>??????
03:39<room>My name is kolya
03:39<SpeedyG>room: please see the dpkg line, this is not a russion channel and also not for normal chat... its a debian support channel
03:40<room>and what???
03:40<room>you bot!
03:40<twb>room: you have question about Debian?
03:40<room>yes
03:41<room>and you bot!
03:41<twb>room: what is your question?
03:42<room>there download kalilinux?
03:42<SpeedyG>!kali
03:42<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
03:42<room>bot)))))))\
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03:43<twb>room: for kali you must go elsewhere.
03:43<room>all by!!!
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03:43<twb>room: goodbye :-)
03:43<room>соси хуй)
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03:45<twb>Cool, I guessed that word correctly. My Russian is improving!
03:45<SpeedyG>dont have the right fonts installed.. all I see is questionmarks ;)
03:46<SpeedyG>(which most likely have the same meaning to me as russion words... but well..)
03:46<DNS>utf-8 ftw
03:46<twb>DNS: UTF-8 encoding doesn't mean all font glyphs are available
03:47<DNS>yea
03:47<DNS>but many at least
03:47<twb>e.g. you probably do not have "ພາສາລາວ"
03:47<DNS>i have
03:47<twb>Darn!
03:47<DNS>looks like indian
03:47<SpeedyG>I have UTF-8
03:47<twb>It's Lao
03:47<twb>India uses many different scripts, though
03:47<SpeedyG>maybe its this mac-os iterm thing that doesnt work right
03:48<DNS>i use weechat in gnome-terminal
03:48<twb>SpeedyG: cyrillic is easy and should work in most places
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03:48<twb>SpeedyG: it might be an encoding problem if you are doing iterm+ssh+screen+irssi or something
03:48<SpeedyG>exactly that
03:48<SpeedyG>:)
03:49<SpeedyG>iterm+ssh+screen+irssi
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03:49<SpeedyG>where'd you hide that camera *looks around frantically*
03:49<SpeedyG>:D
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03:51<twb>on Debian for support of a language your best bet is to look at task-X-desktop, which pulls in appropriate fonts
03:51<twb>I cannot help with MacOS :-)
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03:52<twb>task-russian-desktop doesn't mention any fonts, presumably because most "default" font families, e.g. Deja Vu Sans, already have Russian
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03:53<twb>task-cyrillic-desktop mentions t1-cryillic which is more for printing
03:53<SpeedyG>iirc, it worked correctly on my debian desktop...
03:53<SpeedyG>just not on this mac
03:53<twb>reflash it with debian instead of dumb vendor OS :P
03:54<SpeedyG>if it werent company issued, I would ;)
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04:10<jm_>back to those fonts discussions - I saw both cyrillic, and twb's lao stuff, but when those spamming trolls post their messages some characters are missing
04:11<twb>maybe my client was auto-converting from KOI-8 or something
04:11<twb>Let's test: "Eĥoŝanĝo ĉiuĵaŭde, Γειά σας, שלום, Здравствуйте!"
04:11<SpeedyG>hm yeah, I wonder where the issue in encoding happens... iterm or ssh... I wouldnt say it happens in screen or irssi because it works well on my debian box..
04:11<twb>I should've sent that as UTF-8 and the last word should be cyrillic
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04:21<SpeedyG>nope, still all questionmarks... stupid mac :
04:21<SpeedyG>:(
04:22<SpeedyG>well.. whatever...
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04:31<jm_>twb: it was
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06:02<Marina>MX LNUX dañaron el teclado de m laptop con sus actualzacones de CEDA
06:03<Marina>no funsyona la y latna delncuentes
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06:15<SpeedyG>!es
06:15<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
06:15<SpeedyG>I guess...
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13:26<parootbro>Hi
13:26<annadane>!parrot
13:26<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
13:27<parootbro>RedHat
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13:28<bloodman>Not too sure how did this happen :/
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14:01<AndroUser>Hello everyone, I tried to make a desktop entry on debian, for notepad++ installed with wine, everything works fine but the icon is invisible... I used a png 128x128
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14:09<AndroUser2>(AndroUser) Hello everyone, I tried to make a desktop entry on debian, for notepad++ installed with wine, everything works fine but the icon is invisible... I used a png 128x128
14:09<AndroUser2>(androirc issues)
14:09<bloodman>Hey there androuser, Why don't you try installing gedit (Gnome text editor) instead of it? It's nice and provides colors for the codes as well as it's being native
14:10<bloodman>Also, It's very easy to use.
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14:12<bloodman>Install it via synaptic or the terminal by typing "sudo apt install gedit", After you install it you can either run it from the terminal "By typing gedit" or search for it in your application menu, It'll be called "Text editor"
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14:49<AndroUser2>Cause I have a windows 10 at work and I use notepad++ so I'm used to it and don't want to change ^^
14:49<bremner>well, switching to Debian is bound to be some pretty big changes
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14:50<bremner>anyway, best of luck. My impression is that using wine is a bit tricky.
14:50<AndroUser2>Yeah but I perfectly installed notepad++ and it's working, the only problem I got is that I the icon for the desktop entry is invisible
14:51<futune>what desktop environment are you using, first of all?
14:51<AndroUser2>Gnome
14:52<futune>Gnome3?
14:52<AndroUser2>Yep, on debian stretch
14:54<AndroUser2>I put the. Desktop file in /usr/share/applications and it works perfectly when I click on it, the icon is set with absolute link to a png file 128x128 but it's completely transparent in the app menu
14:55<bremner>probably you shouldn't install files in /usr/share/ by hand. Isn't there some per-user place to put desktop files?
14:56<AndroUser2>I don't know, I checked on Google how to create a desktop entry for debian gnome and it said to put the file in /usr/share/applications, and it works. I just have a problem with the icon
14:57<futune>sorry for stupid question, but is the png a transparent png? how does it look in an image viewer?
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14:57<futune>have you tried setting the icon to one of the stock icons?
14:57<AndroUser2>How can I do that?
14:57<AndroUser2>http://www.noelshack.com/2018-44-2-1540917809-45006816-176603906615511-2355565115455045632-n.jpg
14:58<bloodman>I remember having this problem before but not too sure if i did fix it or not.
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15:01<AndroUser2>Here's my desktop entry
15:01<AndroUser2>[Desktop Entry]
15:01<AndroUser2>Name=Notepad++
15:01<AndroUser2>Exec= wine /home/dkeagle/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Notepad++/notepad++.exe
15:01<AndroUser2>Icon=/home/dkeagle/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Notepad++/npp128.png
15:01<AndroUser2>Type=Application
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15:01<bremner>!paste
15:01<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
15:02<AndroUser2>http://paste.debian.net/1049774
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15:03<futune>I don't remember where the stock icons are stored
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15:07<futune>I noticed that the icon is in your home directory, maybe it is a permission problem?
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15:08<futune>another possibility is that it doesn't understand the escaped space in the path, try moving the icon to a path without space
15:08<futune>would be strange though, since wine is able to find and open the exe file
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15:18<AndroUser2>I'll try to move the icon and keep you updated
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15:20<bloodman>If it didn't work you might wanna try making a new launcher for it, that worked for me.
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15:23<bloodman>http://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/ddg#66918
15:23<bloodman>https://superuser.com/questions/360059/create-custom-launchers-in-gnome-3#472782
15:23<bloodman>Hope these two links help you while i go sleep.
15:24<bloodman>See you all later
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15:47<limbo>Is there any software that I can use to record from a camera connected to the system, but immedietly encrypt it? I'd settle for a "write-only" encrypted filesystem too. (as long as I can point a program at it to save its video output)
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17:23<H4ndy>limbo: ffmpeg can grab directly from a webcam and dump that to disk. Not sure about the encryption solution tho
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17:43<limbo>Something that emulates a file system, but that nothing can read from/open files on would be what I'm really looking for here. But I have no idea if it exists.
17:44<limbo>I'd been meaning to learn FUSE, but not for this.
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20:04<nighttime>Having an apparent permissions issues on stretch. Trying to run a local development server, but, apparently I can't save directly to the apache document root (/var/www/html). I've already tried adding a new group, chown on the folder and adding my user to the group, still get permission denied
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20:13<sqrt{not}>nighttime: did you remember to logout and login again after you added your user to the group ?
20:13<nighttime>sqrt{not} I did.
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20:14<mome>nighttime: Did you try first to chown -R www-data:www-data on /var/www/html just to see what happen?
20:14<nighttime>mome I did not try that one
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20:15<sqrt{not}>nighttime: can you show the result of `ls -ld /var/www/html` and of your user doing `group`
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20:16<nighttime>sqrt{not} is there a preferred pastebin here?
20:16<sqrt{not}>should be one line each
20:16<mome>Just, see that the command chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/html will set user and group www-data as owner of all directores and files in there!!
20:16<nighttime>true, standby
20:17<mome>nighttime: Yes, https://paste.debian.net/
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20:17<nighttime>ls -ld: drwxr-xr-x 2 root webmasters 4096 Sep 16 09:36 /var/www/html
20:18<nighttime>groups: nightshift cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev bluetooth lpadmin scanner webmasters
20:18<sqrt{not}>nighttime: only root has write permission in that directory
20:19<nighttime>oh, DUH, guess I missed a step somewhere.
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20:21<sqrt{not}>try maybe: chown -r g+w /var/www/html
20:21<mome>nighttime: Apache is run as user www-data and group www-data
20:21<nighttime>sqrt{not} did, was able to save
20:22<mome>nighttime: I think, the easy way is to set the owner/group of the web root (and any directories/files therein) to www-data
20:23<nighttime>mome I understand that, but I was also seeing that changing ownership of the doc root to www-data was a bad idea. Of course, I'm sure they were talking about a public facing server, instead of a local dev one
20:23<sqrt{not}>www-data can read everything anyway, right ?
20:23<nighttime>oy vey, and the troubles continue
20:24<mome>nighttime: Then, if apache user may have permission to write in there, add it to the group that you created
20:24<sqrt{not}>(depending on what permission you have on files you put there )
20:24<mome>nighttime: Nope, www-data only can operate inside /var/www/data
20:24<nighttime>sqrt{not}, other than the webmasters group stuff, I've not changed any permissions
20:25<sqrt{not}>nighttime: I'm talking about new files you are adding... what permissions do you put on them ?
20:25<nighttime>ok, more issues, I've been trying to get php running, and, it's not
20:25<mome>nighttime: s/data/html/
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20:26<mome>nighttime: Is better one at the time :)
20:26<nighttime>sqrt{not} newest file ls list is -rw-r--r-- 1 nightshift nightshift 21 Oct 30 17:21 info.php
20:26<mome>nighttime: That is not bad.
20:27<nighttime>mome the file write problem I was having was trying to get the simple phpinfo() script in to confirm php was running!
20:28<nighttime>so, got the file written, finally, but it's not being processed
20:28<mome>nighttime: You need to check also on apache logs, when you start the server you get good info about php
20:29<nighttime>hmmmm, gonna have to find those (sorry, first time running a local server on linux direct)
20:29<mome>nighttime: Also, did you check on php.ini that all the settings are Ok?
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20:30<nighttime>no, I did not mome
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20:32<nighttime>oh, wait, found something
20:32<hack>hi
20:32<hack>what is this ?
20:33<bremner>this is a technical support channel for Debian GNU/Linux
20:33<bremner>Do you have technical questions about Debian?
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20:34<nighttime>Got it! yay. instructions I was following skipped a2enmod for php
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20:34<hack>no but this is nice :D
20:34<hack>who i can get more channels?
20:34<mome>nighttime: You can do in one terminal tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log and then in other terminal systemctl restart apache2
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20:35<mome>nighttime: You will get useful info about your apache - php configuration
20:35<nighttime>mome, got it up, final problem seems to be getting phpmyadmin running. I know it's installed
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20:37<mome>nighttime: So you need also mysql / mariadb for that
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20:39<nighttime>standby mome I thought I had one of them installed
20:41<mome>nighttime: One of the is ok, well mariadb is the default in Stretch
20:41<mome>s/the/them/
20:42<nighttime>mome looks like I had installed mariadb, there just seems to be an issue with the install. I'm investigating
20:44<mome>nighttime: Remember for long outputs use better https://paste.debian.net/
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20:50<nighttime>mome if I have to share anything longer than 1 line, I will. heads up, switching to my registered nick
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21:22<hack>who i can send a local mensagem from console ?
21:22<hack>its possivel ?
21:23<mome>!ask
21:23<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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21:29<awal1>hack send a local message?
21:29<awal1>a message to a given user/all logged users or what?
21:30<awal1>run w for see who is logged then use write or wall
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21:50<nightshift>Woooo, finally got phpmyadmin running. Apparently all the install directions I'd found assumed the configuration would be offered. For some reason on my system it isn't, I had to reconfigure
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21:52-!-leosemilie is "Unknown" on #debian #Corsair #oftc
21:53<leosemilie>how to verify nickname
21:54<nightshift>leosemilie your nickname?
22:03<leosemilie>yes
22:04<nightshift>leosemilie have you already registered with nickserv?
22:05-!-bobbyk [~bobbyk@41-139-186-22.safaricombusiness.co.ke] has joined #debian
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22:27-!-marijnfs [~smuxi@2a01:c23:c44b:b900:9001:ab4e:787c:2e1] has joined #debian
22:27-!-marijnfs is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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22:29-!-Logg is "realname" on #debian
22:30-!-nightshift [~nightshif@47-34-254-206.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:31-!-csotelo [~csotelo@2800:200:f400:23c1:83dd:9b29:5c88:1c4c] has joined #debian
22:31-!-csotelo is "realname" on #debian-es #debian
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22:35-!-csotelo [~csotelo@2800:200:f400:23c1:83dd:9b29:5c88:1c4c] has joined #debian
22:35-!-csotelo is "realname" on #debian-es #debian
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22:37-!-TwinKam20 is "TwinKam20" on #debian
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22:40-!-pavlushka is "pavlushka" on #oftc #debian #debian-hurd
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22:46-!-marijnfs_ is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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22:48-!-JanC [~janc@2a02:578:85fd:500:5135:9abf:f9ff:af49] has joined #debian
22:48-!-JanC is "Jan Claeys" on #debian #epfsug #ext4 #linuxfs #quodlibet #bcache #xonsh
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22:50-!-MrPlop_ is "Cédric" on #debian
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22:50-!-fergster is "realname" on #debian
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23:01-!-technoid_ is "Tech-noid" on +#Corsair #debian #linode
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23:04-!-MrPlop_ is "Cédric" on #debian
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23:20-!-angico is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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23:21-!-david2 is "david" on #debian
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23:21-!-banc is "master" on #security #debian #bitlbee
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23:27-!-K0JIbKA is "nikobit" on #debian
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23:35-!-pavlushka is "pavlushka" on #oftc #debian #debian-hurd
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23:35-!-david2 is "david" on #debian
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23:38-!-Alam_Squeeze is "Alam Arias" on #debian #linux #bitlbee #debian-ipv6 #gc-linux
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23:56-!-itd is now known as Guest1842
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