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02:34<grove>itd: It was indeed some strange env variables, I must have had a reason to set at some point (I had defined them in my .zshrc), but I don't remember that reason, so for now they are commented out, and building that package now gives the expected result
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08:13<vicky>Hi. When startx is executed as non-root I'm getting the error 'startx[498]: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key'. Any idea what could be the issue? Thanks. I'm running debian 9.5.
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08:16<Anarka>vicky: check who owns .Xauthority
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08:23<vicky>Anarka: Which one? /home/<user>/.Xauthority or /root/.Xauthority
08:23<Anarka>user
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08:27<vicky>It is owned by user only. Sometimes I see error like
08:27<vicky>Nov 02 12:19:27 localhost.localdomain startx[519]: No protocol specified
08:27<vicky>Nov 02 12:19:29 localhost.localdomain startx[519]: waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .
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11:52<Cerebral>Hello
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11:53<Cerebral>How can i install a package without removing some?
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12:00<itd>Cerebral: Removing some what?
12:01<Cerebral>Some other packages
12:01<itd>Cerebral: Depends on the package you want to install.
12:02<Cerebral>Well i wanna keep some ipmortant packages
12:02<itd>Cerebral: Good luck.
12:03<Cerebral>What?
12:04<olasd>Cerebral: you're going to be more specific about what you're trying to do and how it fails; ideally you'd paste commands and their output on https://paste.debian.net/
12:04<Cerebral>Its not failing
12:04<Cerebral>Trying to install sysvinit-core and that removes some very important packages
12:05<Cerebral>So i want to install that without removing some specific packages
12:05<Cerebral>Using QubesOS.
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12:11<olasd>if you're using QubesOS you will want to take that up with their support channels; we don't know what they've changed from stock debian that would allow to install sysvinit-core or not
12:12<Cerebral>olasd: Would you like a paste?
12:13<Cerebral>To see what it's removed?
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12:14<olasd>we avoid doing support of other distros in here; however I'm guessing you're working on a Debian AppVM in qubes? in which case I feel it's somewhat on the line and yeah, you can send the paste :)
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12:15<Cerebral>Yeah an AppVM
12:16<Cerebral>olasd: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1050126
12:17<olasd>try installing systemd-shim alongside sysvinit-core?
12:18<Cerebral>olasd: Nah still removes qubes specific packages
12:19<nyoron>Cerebral: they may have a hard dependency on systemd
12:19<olasd>then I'm afraid you'll have to take it up with the Qubes people; I don't know if they hard-depend on systemd or not
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12:20<olasd>(systemd-shim provides the logind APIs used by gnome and friends, maybe qubes needs more than that)
12:20<Cerebral>IDK i'll talk with them.Thanks
12:20<olasd>yw
12:21<olasd>and good luck
12:27<Cerebral>Thanks
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13:07<Cerebral>olasd: Isnt there an apt command so when i install a package to keep the 'to be removed'?
13:07<Cerebral>Or some?
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14:03<mnuhmnuh>Cerebral: that would be _pinning_ - you'll need to do some research. https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
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14:10<towo`>myblock
14:11<towo`>grr, wrong window, sorry
14:14<Cerebral>mnuhmnuh: Ah.I found out about mark hold as well.
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19:08<ttaat>hello, why is iceweasel version outdated?
19:09<lupine>*sob*
19:09<lupine>personally, I want to know why I was forcibly upgraded to 60.x
19:11<ttaat>also why is debian stable using a newer version? Shouldn't be the opposite?
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19:30<ttaat>gtg
19:30<ttaat>i'll back tomorrow
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19:44<itd>dpkg: firefox-esr
19:44<dpkg>In stable, firefox-esr (Extended Support Release) will be updated to the next release when the old version is no longer supported by Mozilla; this is normally forced by a security update and often breaks many packaged extensions. In testing/unstable firefox-esr is updated after having matured in experimental for a suitable time.
19:45<itd>"Support for the 52.x series has ended, so starting with this update we're now following the 60.x releases." https://www.debian.org/security/2018/dsa-4287
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20:09<TobiX>lupine: The reasoning is in the release notes: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#browser-security
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21:27<duncan>Hello, where should I ask for help with regards to packaging with CDBS?
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---Logclosed Sat Nov 03 00:00:53 2018