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---Logopened Wed Nov 07 00:00:58 2018
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01:45<babyf>anyone know how can I get something like pacman hooks working on Debian with dpkg?
01:46<babyf>I want to run scripts whenever a certain package goes through some action (install/upgrade/uninstall) at a specific point (pre/post) without modifying the deb
01:50<jm_>dpkg has --pre-invoke=command and --post-invoke=command options. apt also has options to call commands before it calls dpkg (see how apt-listchanges works)
01:50<dpkg>jm_: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
01:51<babyf>jm_: I can't use deb-triggers for this?
01:52<babyf>calling it everytime is cumbersome, I can probably wrap it in a script to call scripts, if that's the last resort.
01:53<babyf>the problem is that perhaps I can interest on some file path but I still don't get which package it was trigfered by (so that my hooks.deb could decide what script to invoke).
01:54<jm_>not sure if triggers can help with this
01:54<jm_>but I think not
02:02<babyf>sad, I guess I should file a bug, practically the only thing needed to neatly implement this with a hooks deb itself (which fits well into the model that for hooks, you subscribe to all changes and then filter out) is that an environment variable with some metadata about who triggered it gets passed to the trigger script.
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02:06<jm_>btw, you can configure hooks in /etc/dpkg.cfg so no need for wrapper scripts
02:06<jm_>/etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg that is
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02:12<Zenul_Abidin>Hi, I'm trying to set my ip address using "ip link set ens33 address 192.168.81.201"
02:13<Anarka>ip addr add
02:13<Zenul_Abidin>It says "Invalid address length 4 - must be 6 bytes"
02:13<Zenul_Abidin>Anarka: I tried that, but something seems to be wrong
02:13<Zenul_Abidin>I'm using dhcp
02:13<Zenul_Abidin>and replacing the dhcp address with a static one
02:14<Anarka>ip addr add 1.1.1.1/24 dev enp0s25
02:15<Zenul_Abidin>(does debian have their own pastebin?)
02:15<Anarka>!paste
02:15<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
02:15<Zenul_Abidin>thanks
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02:28<Zenul_Abidin>Anarka: I did the ip addr add command but it only made it the secondary ip address
02:28<Zenul_Abidin>Also I need to set a broadcast address
02:30<Zenul_Abidin>The strange thing is that I can do this with a gui, so there must be a configuration file for this under /etc?
02:30<Anarka>/etc/network/interfaces
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04:24<cpaelzer>it seems I can't find the right spot for this in docs/policy - in terms of packaging configure actions in preinst/postinst - how long are they supposed to be kept around
04:25<cpaelzer>e.g. in my current example - will a direct upgrade oldoldstable -> buster considered reasonable, or can the pre/postinst code cleaned up then as users are expected to upgrade "through" the other releases?
04:27<jm_>debian does not support skipping releases when upgrading
04:27<cpaelzer>thanks jm_, that is what I wanted to see confirmed
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07:03<xylonwork>is there a channel for oldstable?
07:04<arto>!oldstable
07:04<dpkg>OldStable the previous stable version of Debian, as long as it is still supported by the security team. Jessie (8) is oldstable. It is recommended to upgrade your system(s) to the current stable release, ask me about <oldstable->stable>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable or see <lifespan> <jessie-lts>.
07:04<xylonwork>OK so I guess it's this one
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07:04<EmleyMoor>xylonwork: If any. yes...
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07:06<xylonwork>I need information on which packages are supported by LTS
07:06<arto>!jessie-lts
07:06<dpkg>Security support for Debian 8 "Jessie" from the Debian Security Team ended on 2018-05-17. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures will receive additional long term support (<LTS>) via <jessie/updates> until around 2020 for a 5 year lifetime total. See https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information
07:08<itd>also read https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Jessie
07:08<xylonwork>But does LTS provide security support for packages that are unsupported by upstream? i.e. php5-fpm
07:08<xylonwork>wow it sais on that page!
07:08<xylonwork>wow, great
07:12<xylonwork>I've been trying to get my company to move from Ubuntu to Debian for 2 years but this might finally be the thing I can use to push it!
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07:13<xylonwork>(we contacted Ubuntu and they aren't suporting it because it's in universe repo)
07:15<itd>xylonwork: Sounds awesome. :) You might want to /join #debian-lts .
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07:52<petn-randall>xylonwork: The thing with Ubuntu is that only 10% of their stuff is in main, which is the only repo that gets commercial support. With Debian, there are many companies that offer support, though they all are smaller than Canonical.
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09:07<matjaz>hi
09:08<matjaz>i have a question if anyone can help
09:08<matjaz>I'm running Debian stable and I get missfont.log file in home directory
09:08<matjaz>its contents are:
09:08<matjaz>mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+120/600 --dpi 720 cmbx12
09:08<matjaz>mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+120/600 --dpi 720 cmr10
09:08<matjaz>mktextfm cmbx12
09:08<matjaz>mktextfm cmr10
09:08<petn-randall>!paste
09:08<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
09:08<petn-randall>matjaz: STOP
09:09<matjaz>https://paste.debian.net/1050758/
09:09<matjaz>sorry
09:11<matjaz>anyone any idea how to fix this?
09:12<petn-randall>matjaz: From a google search it seems to be generated by ancient versions of TeX.
09:12<matjaz>i had no tex installed
09:13<petn-randall>matjaz: Maybe some other tool that uses it.
09:13<matjaz>might be but I cant find it
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11:07<Tapioco>hi
11:07<arto>hi Tapioco
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12:05<GCS>Any IRC channel to ask about mirrors?
12:05<arto>GCS: you can find them in debian.org
12:06<arto>!mirror
12:06<dpkg>The best mirror for most users is <deb.debian.org>; other mirrors are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <httpredir.debian.org>, <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <ftpsync>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net.
12:06<GCS>arto: Please. I would like to ask if someone know why ftp.de.debian.org is unreachable.
12:07<arto>GCS: I think ftp mirrors were closed
12:07<GCS>aro: It was working yesterday. But will check for some announcements then.
12:08<arto>GCS: might be your ISP or something in the middle, sorry that previous was wrong info
12:08<arto>GCS: try neighbouring mirror
12:08<GCS>arto, sorry. https://www.debian.org/mirror/list still lists FTP mirrors.
12:09<arto>GCS: yes, I admitted my error
12:09<GCS>NP.
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12:14<jhutchins_wk>arto: The hosts still have ftp in the names, but the ftp service was shut down.
12:14<jhutchins_wk>!mirror status
12:14<dpkg>Debian mirrors have timestamp files we use to determine how recently they have been updated. Here are some statistics the mirror maintainers provide: http://mirror.debian.org/status.html and http://ftp.de.debian.org/dmc/today/ Ask me about <mirrors>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net.
12:14<arto>jhutchins_wk: I stand corrected, thank you
12:15<jhutchins_wk>GCS: It's usually recommended to NOT use the country code and let load distribution send you to an available host.
12:15<GCS>jhutchins_wk: I do agree.
12:16<GCS>Ouch: Host mirror.debian.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
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12:19<jhutchins_wk>Hmn, looks like it moved: https://mirror-master.debian.org/status/mirror-status.html
12:20<petn-randall>Yep, factoid needs updating.
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12:33<jhutchins_wk>petn-randall: I'm not sure how to do that.
12:35<petn-randall>dpkg: mirror status =~ s#http://mirror.debian.org/status.html#https://mirror-master.debian.org/status/mirror-status.html#
12:35<dpkg>that doesn't contain 'http://mirror.debian.org/status.html', petn-randall
12:35<petn-randall>!mirror status
12:35<dpkg>Debian mirrors have timestamp files we use to determine how recently they have been updated. Here are some statistics the mirror maintainers provide: http://mirror.debian.org/status.html and http://ftp.de.debian.org/dmc/today/ Ask me about <mirrors>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net.
12:36<petn-randall>jhutchins_wk: That *should* have fixed it, I'm not sure why it's failing.
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12:42<jhutchins_wk>petn-randall: (superstitious answer:) Maybe it needs to be changed from freenode?
12:43<itd>!mirror status
12:43<dpkg>Debian mirrors have timestamp files we use to determine how recently they have been updated. Here are some statistics the mirror maintainers provide: http://mirror-master.debian.org/status.html and http://ftp.de.debian.org/dmc/today/ Ask me about <mirrors>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net.
12:44<itd>petn-randall: http://ircbots.debian.net said '<reply> see debian mirror checker', changing 'debian mirror checker' worked.
12:44<itd>(But I messed up the url. :P)
12:46<itd>fixed, I hope
12:48<petn-randall>itd: That was the issue, thanks! :)
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15:11<gijoe3k>Hey folks, im having a bit of trouble with sharing my desktop of debian 9.
15:12<gijoe3k>I have enabled screen sharing under the "sharing" options under gnome
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15:13<gijoe3k>but when I attempt to connect using any vnc client under my Windows 7 box i get:
15:13<gijoe3k>no security type suitable for rfb 3.3 supported
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15:24<jhutchins_wk>gijoe3k: Your clients are not compatible with gnome's screen sharing.
15:25<jhutchins_wk>gijoe3k: There are a variety of VNC clients that you can probably get to match protocols.
15:25<jhutchins_wk>!vnc
15:25<dpkg>Virtual Network Computing (VNC) is a platform-independent graphical desktop sharing system (i.e. provides GUI remote access). Server packages in Debian include <tightvncserver>, <vnc4server> and <x11vnc>; "apt-cache search vnc" will list other servers and clients. Ask me about <vnc setup>, see also <x-not-vnc> for an alternative. http://wiki.debian.org/VNCviewer
15:28<jhutchins_wk>!rdp
15:28<dpkg>The proprietary Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) is used to connect to systems running Microsoft Remote Desktop Services (formerly Terminal Services), providing features similar to <VNC>. RDP clients packaged for Debian include <freerdp>, <rdesktop>, <remmina> and <tsclient>. For a RDP server, ask me about <xrdp>.
15:30<gijoe3k>The fustrating thing is that i have tried all the vnc clients that I can find on my Win7 box and they ALL refuse to connect...
15:30<gijoe3k>Do you know of any other clients that might work?
15:33<gijoe3k>Ubuntu 18.04 seems to have the exact problem
15:33<gijoe3k>https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2391847
15:34<sqrt{not}>!xrdp
15:34<dpkg>well, xrdp is an open-source remote desktop protcol (RDP) server for Unix-like operating systems. http://xrdp.sf.net/
15:34<gijoe3k>Tried the fix but i get a bunch of erros saying it can't make the changes :(
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19:22<Synthea>How can I set mpv so that the window is not limited to the video size and it shows black where there isn't video like VLC?
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21:14<twb>fc-match Helvetica is giving me texgyreheros-regular.otf instead of Liberation Sans. Why?
21:15<twb>Oh ugh, this isn't even "a similar problem to the URW Nimbus font"; Gyre is *literally* the current descendant of URW Nimbus
21:15<twb>https://bugs.debian.org/444811
21:15<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/444811 in fontconfig-config (open): «fontconfig should not use URW postscript fonts by default»; severity: normal; opened: 2007-10-01; last modified: 2014-04-04.
21:18<twb>So I guess the workaround is to just blacklist /usr/share/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/*
21:25<twb>Aargh
21:25<twb>Because firefox doesn't have access to ~twb, it can't see ~twb/.fonts.conf which disables tex gyre
21:29<twb>http://cyber.com.au/~twb/tmp/both.png --- Gyre on the left, DejaVu on the right. You can see instantly the problem in the ligature in "confidence", which is what I was trying to avoid.
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23:47<babyf>does debian do repository signing or per package signing?
23:48<twb>yes
23:48<twb>packages are signed by the uploader when they enter the repository
23:48<twb>when the end user downloads and installs them, the repo is signed (and the signed file includes SHA512 checksums of all the files)
23:49<twb>In other words, the end user only interacts with the repository-level signature
23:56<babyf>ok, thanks.
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