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05:11<Human_G33k>like always i doing some weired thing with debian, i try to reinstall some essential package but i have an error mktemp cant create some directories « /tmp/debian-security-support.XXXXX »: Permission denied
05:12<Human_G33k>i think i just find ^^
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05:41<petn-randall>!context
05:41<dpkg>Try to give enough context! For example, let us know which command/program you are running, what you expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as possible. If your command produced output, share the complete command (with all parameters!) and its output on https://paste.debian.net.
05:41<petn-randall>Human_G33k: Can you show us the complete output? ^^^
05:43<Human_G33k>mktemp: impossible de créer le répertoire à partir du modèle « /tmp/debian-security-support.XXXXX »: Permission denied
05:43<Human_G33k>dpkg: error: error executing hook 'if [ -x /usr/share/debian-security-support/check-support-status.hook ] ; then /usr/share/debian-security-support/check-support-status.hook ; fi', exit code 256
05:43<dpkg>Human_G33k: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
05:44<petn-randall>Human_G33k: Sounds like you didn't read the fatoid yet.
05:44<petn-randall>Also, this:
05:44<petn-randall>!localized errors
05:44<dpkg>To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
05:44<petn-randall>*factoid
05:45<Human_G33k>mktemp: failed to create directory via template '/tmp/debian-security-support.XXXXX': Permission denied
05:45<Human_G33k>dpkg: error: error executing hook 'if [ -x /usr/share/debian-security-support/check-support-status.hook ] ; then /usr/share/debian-security-support/check-support-status.hook ; fi', exit code 256
05:45<dpkg>You are person #2 to send an unparseable request, Human_G33k
05:46<jm_>Human_G33k: can you manually run 'mkdir /tmp/debian-security-support.XXXXX'?
05:47<Human_G33k>already did ^^
05:48<Human_G33k>dont take lose to much time with me i experiment
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08:00<Synthea>I'm trying to sign certificates with X509v3 Subject Alternative Name with a ca with this guide made by me by mixing some howto, the csr is good, but when signing it with intermediate ca it removes X509v3 Subject Alternative Name, what am I doing wrong? https://paste.debian.net/hidden/fbe46035/
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08:10<petn-randall>Synthea: Maybe it's the CA doing that, then there's nothing you can do about it.
08:11<Synthea>petn-randall, I know that openssl ca can sign SAN
08:11<Synthea>I just don't know where's the issue
08:11<petn-randall>Synthea: Are you in control of the intermediate CA?
08:11<Synthea>petn-randall, yes
08:12<Synthea>Even the root ca
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08:12<petn-randall>Ah, ok.
08:12<petn-randall>Synthea: Personally, I recommend using easyrsa, it takes away all of the hassle of details.
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11:20<m3hm00d>On debian 'lb config' produces directories such as config/includes.{binary,installer,chroot} etc. While TAILS has directories named as config/{binary,chroot}_local-includes etc
11:20<m3hm00d> On different forums, I have seen the option '--syslinux-splash "filename"' used to specify the isolinux splash image. While on debian, this option produces "lb config: unrecognized option --syslinux-splash"
11:27<petn-randall>m3hm00d: ... and do you have a question about it?
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11:31<m3hm00d>With the Debian convention, there's no --syslinux-splash option. Can't find a simple way to plug in my own splash image. With the TAILS convention, I could easily use --syslinux-splash parameter
11:32<m3hm00d>petn-randall: Wanted to know if there's some reason behind the two different naming conventions
11:32<petn-randall>m3hm00d: I wouldn't be surprised about it, after all, Tails and Debian are two different distributions, so it's possible to have different toolsets.
11:33<m3hm00d>'lb config' isn't a standard toolset? I thought the tool was the same
11:33<petn-randall>m3hm00d: For the same reason your Nokia phone battery doesn't fit in your Samsung phone. ;)
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11:34<petn-randall>m3hm00d: They might be the same tools, but likely different versions.
11:34<m3hm00d>petn-randall: lol. I thought there would be some 'special' paramter that I could pass to 'lb config' to switch to TAILS conventions so I could get --syslinux-splash paramter
11:34<m3hm00d>petn-randall: got it. Thanks
11:35<petn-randall>m3hm00d: Without knowing, I'd guess it's because one version is newer than the other. You can likely check by calling `lb --version` or `lb --help`.
11:37<m3hm00d>I'll give it a go
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12:28<mnuhmnuh>,v lb
12:28<judd>No package named 'lb' was found in amd64.
12:32<petn-randall>mnuhmnuh: The program 'lb' is currently not installed. To run 'lb' please ask your administrator to install the package 'live-build'
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13:07<mnuhmnuh>grr. i just found 'set mouse=a " Enable mouse usage (all modes)"' in /etc/vim/vimrc. i was going nuts wondering why vim wouldn't let me paste in. :-| hope this fixes it.
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13:09<archer>mnuhmnuh: https://devhints.io/vim this changed my life
13:09<mnuhmnuh>archer: appreciated.
13:10<sqrt{not}>mnuhmnuh: I'm running a giant bloated desktop environment (think "....s of Zurich") which lets me paste into vim... a small price to pay ?
13:10<archer>i cant copy paste into vim either, luckily i dont change anything more than a couple words here and there for now so if you figure out the string to make it work let me know!
13:11<mnuhmnuh>used to work.
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13:17<itd>mnuhmnuh: you want mouse=a or not?
13:18<mnuhmnuh>c+p wasn't working with it commented out.
13:20<mnuhmnuh>not working yet. do i need to logout & in?
13:22<itd>need to leave vim, but not your de.
13:23<mnuhmnuh>assumed it'd re-read config on invoke.
13:23<itd>you're on stable, right?
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13:24<mnuhmnuh>yup.
13:25<itd>if yes, maybe try disabling the defaults.vim thing mentioned in /usr/share/doc/vim/NEWS.Debian.gz
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13:50<jon_>Hi, wondering if someone might know what's going on with my install. I'm trying to load 9.6 onto a samsung 970 evo, but after installation it tries to do a network boot and then gives "BootDevice Not found {3F0}"
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13:51<jon_>I had to burn the iso to a dvd. loading it onto a usb drive using cp, dd, or etcher makes the drive not appear in the boot menu for some reason
13:53<loblik>I've noticed experimental now includes signed kernel images (I think shim and grub are already in testing). Is there any info how is initrd handled in secure boot setup? I guess it should be also signed somehow right?
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13:57<itd>loblik: sounds like you want #debian-next
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14:36<sqrt{not}>jon_: Install from dvd should work OK. Did the install find the machine's disks OK ? Did any strange messages appear during the install from dvd ?
14:38<itd>Is the disk enabled as boot device?
14:50<jon_>Yep, the install found the disk. No strange messages
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14:50<jon_>The hard drive is firs tin the boot priority list and I'm manually selecting it from the boot menu, it goes straight to the intel PXE
14:51<jon_>is there a boot setting somewhere I need to set manually?
14:54<itd>(I'm not aware of any.) What kind of disk is that?
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14:59<jon_>m2 NVME
15:01<jon_>I'm installing the non-free firmware image now to see if that makes a difference
15:14<jon_>still a no-go...
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15:17<itd>ever managed to boot anything from that disk?
15:18<jon_>yeah, ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 worked fine
15:24<itd>dpkg: fixmbr
15:24<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
15:25<itd>you could try that and see if it complains about anything
15:27<mnuhmnuh>jon_: have you fiddled w boot order in bios? make hd second, will fall to it if no others go.
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15:28<mnuhmnuh>sometimes separate <Esc> menu to select, not F...
15:29<mnuhmnuh>or i'm confused.
15:30<Synthea>I've created a Root CA - Intermediate CA - My server certificates thing, do I have to ship to clients only the root authority certificate or both Root and Intermediate certificate?
15:34<sqrt{not}>jon_: which .iso image exactly did you put on your dvd ?
15:36<jon_>debian-9.6.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
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15:43<sqrt{not}>jon_: does the machine have any other disk besides the NVME ? When you say you select "hard drive" from the boot menu, do you mean the NVME actually ?
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15:48<jon_>Yep sorry, I mean the NVME
15:48<jon_>no other disks
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15:57<sqrt{not}>jon_: can you turn off the option of PXE booting, inside your BIOS ?
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15:59<sqrt{not}>jon_: at the end of the install, did it ask you to install grub on the "disk" ?
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16:09<jon_>sqrt{not}_: so I'm on that screen now
16:09<jon_>sqrt{not}: so I'm on that screen now
16:09<jon_>"Install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record?"
16:11<sqrt{not}>jon_: that sounds good, that's what you want, _IF_ the BIOS will let you select this NVME as a boot device.
16:12<jon_>so the next screen, the NVME does show up in the list of devices for boot loader installation
16:13<sqrt{not}>jon_: very good, I've read that the linux installer sometimes recognizes the SSD but certain older BIOS version do not offer it as a possible boot choice.
16:13<jon_>okay, restarting now...
16:14<jon_>aaaand straight to the PXE again
16:14<jon_>on that note, actually, I need legacy boot enabled in the bios to see the NVME drive in the boot menu
16:15<jon_>if I disable it, the NVME doesn't appear in the UEFI boot list
16:15<jon_>are there different versions of grub for uefi and bios?
16:18<sqrt{not}>jon_: yes
16:19<jon_>okay... is there a way to make sure the installer uses the grub for bios?
16:19<sqrt{not}>jon_: then I think you have to boot the debian installer DVD process from the same legacy mode, so it will install the correct grub
16:19<sqrt{not}>jon_: set the machine to legacy boot before you start the install
16:20<jon_>hm it has been booting the installer in legacy mode the whole time
16:20<sqrt{not}>jon_: so the installer will partition the SSD the old way, not the UEFI way
16:20<sqrt{not}>jon_: should be correct then, if the installer is running in legacy, it should install the legacy grub things.
16:21<sqrt{not}>jon_: did you let the installer create the partition(s) on the SSD ?
16:21<jon_>yep, it made one main one and one for swap when I selected the "everything in one partition" option
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16:26<blast007>jon_: I'm thinking with UEFI it wouldn't show on the boot list unless there was something bootable on that disk
16:31<sqrt{not}>jon_: when you said "the NVME does show up in the list of devices for boot loader installation" -- what other devices does it offer besides the NVME ?
16:34<jon_>this last one I used a usb drive (turns out I can boot from USB if the image is loaded using rufus in windows) so the USB drive was the only other device in the list. Nothing else was there when I used the DVD
16:38<sqrt{not}>jon_: the collective wisdom says rufus can create "hard to debug" problems.
16:38<sqrt{not}>!rufus
16:38<dpkg>rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
16:39<sqrt{not}>jon_: it _does_ seem like your problem is getting to "hard to debug" maybe
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16:44<jon_>hmm
16:44<jon_>Guess I'll just stick to the DVD then
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16:45<jon_>I'll continue this tomorrow... thanks for all the help so far
16:45<drakonis>have you tried extracting the image into the flash drive, i have found it to work well
16:45<drakonis>to work consistently well
16:46<drakonis>doesn't work with squashfs images though, which is not the case with debian's image
16:48<jon_>Hm no, I'll give that a go too
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19:38<abacate>Hello.
19:39<abacate>My grub corrupted again. I have an USB device with the Debian image on it. How to fix grub from the busybox rescue mode?
19:39<abacate>All I find are the debian commands for fixing it. But those commands don't work on the busybox, obviously.
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23:52-!-avar is "rava" on #debian #debian-next
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