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---Logopened Tue Nov 27 00:00:12 2018
00:03<WoC>Howdy Sveta
00:14<Sveta>WoC hello
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01:11<ThisNameBetterNot123>Darn I didn't get to thank annadane for his help. Oh well.
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01:53<fareast>someone told me install kde
01:53<fareast>I don't like it.
01:53<fareast>every software I try to install like vlc and such requests change of media
01:54<fareast>what do you recommend i install
01:54<fareast>xfce or gnome?
01:54<fareast>I am trying to play a dvd movie
01:55<fareast>do the meta packages work with debian?
02:00<jm_>when you installed kde you most likely used a metapackage, so they must work
02:00<fareast>no the dvd doesn't play with dragon
02:01<fareast>I am talking about the meta restricted package
02:01<fareast>first of all which environment packs the best software repo
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02:02<jm_>repository is the same for all DE-s
02:02<fareast>maybe the answer is all of them
02:02<fareast>you just need dependancies right?
02:02<jm_>sure, packages pull in dependencies as needed
02:02<fareast>yeah i figured
02:02<fareast>so I have debian. yay
02:02<fareast>its pretty dry out of the box right?
02:03<jm_>what do you mean with dry?
02:03<fareast>I mean not loaded up with everything like ubuntu
02:03<fareast>you have to add things
02:03<Sveta>fareast if you want dry debian use the netinstaller
02:03<jm_>that depends what you select near the end of installation phase - it offers you to install DE-s, and if you pick one, it should end up pretty similar
02:04<fareast>I grabbed the arm64
02:04<fareast>I am running it on an i3
02:04<fareast>nevermind the chit chat about stuff that doesn't work
02:04<fareast>what about windows 10 and the dual boot nvme uefi botch did they fix that yet
02:05<fareast>there was a time there where if you had the os's on the same partition it would jump in bios level and delete the boot entry from the bios
02:05<fareast>I don't know if it is a low blow or microsofts way of saying "maybe this os partition is a virus booting with our system.
02:06<jm_>no idea, I still don't use uefi boot
02:06<fareast>I have to with a pcie
02:06<fareast>it only supports uefi with the nvme
02:06<fareast>what desktop environment do you prefer with debian?
02:07<jm_>I have a PICE NVME drive and it works just fine withut UEFI in both Debian and Windows
02:07<fareast>I like what budgie is doing with gnome but I also like kde I just think not too many people have developed it.
02:07<fareast>its the intel i have
02:07<jm_>I use just a simple wm - no DE for me
02:07<fareast>it only works uefi
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02:08<fareast>simple wm?
02:08<fareast>what is that?
02:08<jm_>yes, it's there to just place windows and provide virtual workspaces, nothing fancy on top of that
02:08<jm_>wm = window manager
02:09<fareast>do you use terminal to launch stuff?
02:09<fareast>no gui?
02:12<jm_>at home, it automatically starts stuff I need every day when I boot it, terminals are started using hot keys, at work where I keep stuff running for months I normally start them from terminal
02:15<fareast>right on
02:15<fareast>so you just program the stuff into a startup script
02:15<fareast>and voila
02:15<fareast>multiple desktops for multiple programs and there you have it
02:16<jm_>something like that
02:16<fareast>I worked help desk for a while I had 3 monitors going the one in the middle was the ticketing system on a portrait.
02:17<fareast>it had the whole docking station thing setup with the laptop
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02:18<fareast>I don't think they liked me there because whatever I would do worked. lol
02:18<fareast>I think I am going to try out gnome. There seems to be alot of development going with gnome right?
02:19<jm_>as for your dvd issue - maybe you could ask in #debian-kde - or maybe just try another player, like vlc
02:19<jm_>apparently :)
02:19<fareast>kde won't install
02:19<jm_>!bat
02:19<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
02:19<jm_>provide that info if you want us to help with kde install
02:19<fareast>yeah I am going to switch and check out the flashy goodness lol
02:20<fareast>I am sure I can customize it somehow to make it somewhat minimalistic
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02:20<jm_>!install gnome
02:20<dpkg>To install GNOME: «apt-get install …» 1. 'task-gnome-desktop' (Debian installer default) 2. 'gnome' (recommended) 3. 'gnome-desktop-environment' (upstream GNOME) 4. 'gnome-core' (like 3, minus end-user applications) 5. 'gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome' (minimalist, not recommended). You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome
02:20<jm_>you can start with that at installation time already, see above
02:21<fareast>thanks jm
02:22<jm_>no worries
02:23<fareast>I have to add myself to wheel
02:23<fareast>how do I do that again?
02:23<jm_>hmm why?
02:23<fareast>I am being reported as not being root
02:24<fareast>I am not in the sudoers file
02:24<jm_>https://wiki.debian.org/sudo
02:24<jm_>should be group sudo, not wheel
02:28<fareast>ok
02:28<fareast>i just added myself
02:28<fareast>i had to su root
02:28<fareast>thank god i have common sense when it comes to computers
02:29<fareast>it is asking for a cd
02:30<SpeedyG>edit your apt sources.list
02:30<fareast>just point it to the usb?
02:31<SpeedyG>what's on the usb?
02:31<fareast>the install
02:32<fareast>I am trying to load up gnome
02:32<jm_>no, point it at internet
02:32<fareast>whats the easiest way to do that
02:32<fareast>I don't even know where the sources.list file is in the directory. lol
02:32<Anarka>you probably have a netinstall, you need to use a mirror, probably theres one already defined in /etc/apt/sources.list, just comment the lines about CD, etc
02:32<SpeedyG>!sources
02:32<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
02:33<fareast>no i downloaded the full packeage
02:33<fareast>package it was like 600mb
02:33<SpeedyG>fareast: see that ^ :)
02:33<fareast>ok
02:33<fareast>got it
02:35<fareast>so i just put a hash in front of the cd line?
02:35<Anarka>y
02:36<fareast>damn right boyeee
02:36<fareast>i don't know much about code but that would be it.... lol
02:36<fareast>and there she goes
02:37<fareast>thanks guys
02:37<jm_>so that was probably also the reason kde did not install?
02:37<fareast>no it had to
02:37<fareast>it took forever
02:37<fareast>maybe unless when i told it to install kde it had a bug for the cd
02:38<fareast>I am on kde tho
02:38<fareast>I don't really like kde tho
02:40<fareast>mashing the enter key seems to work
02:40<fareast>i didn't break my operation from before....
02:41<fareast>omg i just dumped 30 gigs from a 60gig ssd of windows update and old windows install files.
02:42<fareast>ok so i had to break the operation and try again of course it seems to be working now..
02:44<fareast>I think kde installed but who uses kde anymore and I don't think they check their code much do they?
02:44<fareast>I was watching some seminars and someone was commenting about some packages slipping through.
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03:08<Anarka>im on kde...
03:08<Anarka>they do have frequent releases
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07:47<jdyer>Hi all! I've got a homelab with a good 15 debian VMs running different tasks. I'd like to both check their status and update them from a central point. Any suggestions on good ways to do that? I don't mind sinking the time in to learning a tool, and I've heard of chef, ansible, etc, just wondering what you've had experience with, what works?
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07:55*dreamer likes ansible
07:55<dreamer>at that scale it still works well too
07:55<dreamer>much larger than that you'll probably want to look at chef or puppet
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08:13<petn-randall>jdyer: I'd go with ansible. Though I might be biased as the Ansible package maintainer ;)
08:13<petn-randall>jdyer: It might take some time to learn, but in the long run you'll save a lot of time by automating tasks properly.
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08:28<WoC>Just curious, but; what was "Stretch" was codenamed before is was officially released ?
08:30<peter1138>stretch
08:31<peter1138>In a similar vein, "The next release of Debian is codenamed "buster" — no release date has been set"
08:31<peter1138>So the codename is set way before release.
08:32<dreamer>yes
08:33<dreamer>because it's in testing before it is stable
08:33<WoC>k, ty :)
08:34<grove>The codenames for the two releases after Buster have also been announced (Bullseye and Bookworm)
08:34<dreamer>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history#Release_table
08:34<dreamer>grove: just read. a little bit early perhaps :P
08:35<WoC>hmmm, Sid, never?
08:35<grove>Sid will always be unstable
08:35<WoC>Works for me though ;]
08:37<sleblanc>jdyer, I have used saltstack to deploy a fleet of 14 raspberry pis, I learned it over the span of a few days. it uses python and has a mode that lets you run remote commands without it being installed on your machines, by uploading a payload script via ssh and running it
08:39<WoC>Cluster ? sleblanc ?
08:39<sleblanc>No, just a bunch of adhoc pis setup in an interactive haunted house. some were playing videos, others were playing sounds
08:40<grove>dreamer: It also seems early to me (especially "Bookworm"), but I don't particiapte in the development, so I don't know when the names are useful/needed. I've heard good arguments that the name of the following release is useful when a release freezes, and given that freeze-dates for Buster have been announced, it seems fair that "Bullseye" have been decided.
08:40<WoC>k ;]
08:40<sleblanc>one had a bluetooth gamepad strapped to an air rifle and an actor would trigger gunshots that played loud sounds and activated a strobe light
08:41<dreamer>WoC: the names are derived from Toy Story
08:41<WoC>oh, ok
08:41<dreamer>since there is a new Toy Story coming .. maybe they wanted to get ahead with some extra names hehe
08:41<sleblanc>they were running supercollider scripts to produce the audio
08:48<WoC>sleblanc, but it would be neat with a 14 node cluster of pies ;]
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09:43<mome>Hi folks, I was installing stretch in a HP Stream 14 and faced the same issue related to the Wifi drivers found in this bug report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=908330
09:43<mome>As you can see in the bug it said "Fixed in version linux/4.18.8-1", but I was unable to find that kernel version. I Finally had install a custom kernel. BTW, Ubuntu 18.04 support this out of the box.
09:44<mome>kernel-image-4.18.0-3 is the latest version that I can find for "sid" and kernel-image-4.18.0-0 for "stretch-backport"
09:44<mome>So, what is the plan. Wait for two years to have this implemented in the stable version? It is just about to enable building of the kernel module 'r8822be'.
09:44<itd>mome: hi. yes, it's fixed, but it's not yet available (i.e. enabled) in stretch/stretch-backports.
09:45<itd>mome: no need to wait. it's just about enabling that kernel module.
09:47<itd>you could ask for a newer backport
09:47<mome>itd: I had to prepare a custom kernel, which is not official from debian, this is not a regualr user task. Just talking to make debian easier to new welcoming people.
09:48<mome>s/regualr/regular/
09:49<mome>stretch-backport latest is 4.18.0-0 I believe.
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09:58<itd>mome: sure. :) If you like open a wishlist bug against linux and ask for a newer backport (and maybe reference that other bug). Building the kernel didn't bother me enough, yet. (AFAIK latest in s-b is 4.18.6-1~bpo9+1.)
10:00<mome>itd: If is possible to do so, I'll try, thanks for the great idea since this can benefit Debian I think. Thanks
10:01<Brigo>,kernels
10:01<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.19.0-rc7-686-pae (4.19~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.18.0-3-686 (4.18.20-2); buster: 4.18.0-2-686-pae (4.18.10-2+b1); stretch-backports: 4.18.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.18.6-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-8-686-pae (4.9.130-2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.8-686-pae (4.9.110-3+deb9u5~deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
10:01<judd>3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
10:01<itd>mome: doesn't hurt to ask nicely. ;)
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10:05<mome>^^
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10:56<bltzfsck>I fired up a live version of kali from usb and tried mounting and writing to an existing filesystem on my computer. rebooted from the hd and nothing had been written.
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10:58<petn-randall>bltzfsck: See the /topic.
10:59<bltzfsck>petn-randall: what am i looking for?
10:59<bltzfsck>the distro on my hd is stretch, if that's what you mean
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11:00<petn-randall>!kali
11:00<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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11:01<petn-randall>bltzfsck: Take up any issues you have with Kali in the kali channel. ^^^
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11:02<bltzfsck>it's debian-based, and i was trying to write to a debian installation. sorry to bother you
11:03<petn-randall>!based on
11:03<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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11:08<bltzfsck>put it differently. i'm (happily) running stretch from my harddrive, but when i booted a different os from usb, mounted the hd and tried to create a file there, stretch did not allow that to happen.
11:09<petn-randall>bltzfsck: stretch is not even running when that happens.
11:09<bltzfsck>right
11:10<bltzfsck>nothing about the filesystem on the hd is preventing the write then?
11:10<petn-randall>So it can't be an issue related to stretch.
11:10<bltzfsck>ok
11:10<bltzfsck>thx
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12:57<grummund>Is there a way to suppress "Package is not installed, so not removed" message from apt-get without implying --yes ?
12:57<petn-randall>grummund: redirect to /dev/null?
12:59<grummund>erm, so for apt-get to remain interactive? (i still want to be asked to remove the package if it *is* installed)
13:03<grummund>alternatively if i can test that a package is installed (by name) then i could call apt-get conditionally.
13:04<petn-randall>grummund: Why do you want to suppress that info?
13:04<petn-randall>grummund: If you're scripting it, there are better ways.
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13:06<grummund>petn-randall: yes it is a script. there is a list of packages to remove, if the script is run again subsequently then it streams that message.
13:07<grummund>...ditto for any packages that weren't installed in the first place.
13:07<petn-randall>grummund: use libapt, or a config management tool that takes away all those pesky little issue for you. :)
13:08<grummund>petn-randall: libapt can be called from bash script?
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13:40<grummund>[[ $(dpkg-query -W -f='${db:Status-Status}' "${package}" 2>/dev/null) != installed ]] || apt-get --quiet remove "${package}"
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13:50<nightshift>Having trouble with my synaptics touchpad scrolling too fast. In trying to locate the what I need to set to slow it down I found https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad but the section on stretch is confusing. Is it saying I need to have input-libinput,input-evdev AND input-mouse, or just one of them?
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13:53<blast007>from the package descriptions it sounds like you just need one. xserver-xorg-input-mouse says that most Linux configurations will instead evdev and do not need that package, and xserver-xorg-input-libinput says that it essentially replaces the separate -evdev and -synaptics drivers.
13:54<blast007>so perhaps try xserver-xorg-input-libinput first
13:56<nightshift>Thanks blast007 that answers the first part of the question. I'm only on libinput. The second part is that all of the fixes I've found so far still refers back to using the synaptics package (aka editing synaptics.conf or using synclient).
13:57<nightshift>correction, almost all of the fixes, some of them do give evdev options.
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14:10<watchcat>if you replace libinput with the older evdev to get input device configurability back, it would probably be a good idea to also install a module for each of your input devices, eg input-kbd, input-mouse, etc, so that you don't find yourself with no functional input devices when you reboot. i learned this the hard way.
14:12<nightshift>Thanks watchcat I was worried about switching to evdev for that reason
14:14<watchcat>just do it all before you reboot. and it does fix the unconfigurable mouse/whatever issue.
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14:19<watchcat>apt purge xserver-xorg-input-all,
14:19<watchcat>apt purge xserver-xorg-input-libinput,
14:19<watchcat>apt install xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
14:19<nightshift>Thanks. I actually think I've almost got it fixed using just the libinput settings (adjusted acceleration on sensitivity, now that I've don't that its starting to look like kinetic scrolling is enabled as well)
14:21<watchcat>well that's even better.
14:24<nightshift>Yeah, I just want to turn it off, or decrease it!
14:25<nightshift>I mean, in general I like it, but it seems a little oversensitive
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14:50<nightshift>yes, got it, had to turn my general sensitivity ALL the way down.
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15:44<lrot>hello, is this an appropriate forum for simple questions?
15:45<ach>!ask
15:45<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
15:45<ach>!forum
15:45<dpkg>[forums] http://forums.debian.net/ , http://www.debianhelp.org/
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15:58<mnuhmnuh>lrot: about debian, ye.
15:58<mnuhmnuh>yes
16:00<mnuhmnuh>don't mind dpkg. it's a bot.
16:00<lrwerewolf>I am having trouble with preseed partitioning expert recipes. I need to mix standard partitions with LVM. The rest of my preseed works fine; if I comment out the recipe and do it manually, the system properly installs. However, with the recipe I get https://pasteboard.co/HP9OljI.png and then an infinite loop of https://pasteboard.co/HP9ODg9.png . I'm not sure how to fix the problem. My current partitioning section, which includes sources I've r
16:00<lrwerewolf>eferenced and the goal layout in comments, can be found at: https://pastebin.com/bUTxLrZV
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16:09<Mawrick>Any tips on what might causing extremely slow connection over mtp with phone ?
16:09<Mawrick>(debian testing)
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16:17<mnuhmnuh>Mawrick: define mtp? mail transport protocol, gmtp (file transfer prog.), ... btw, testing & sid --> #debian-next
16:17<jimpop>mtp is media transfer protocol
16:18<jimpop>it's the new-age way to copy pics off your mobile
16:19<mnuhmnuh>so, gmtp i'm guessing.
16:20<jimpop>or native via gvfs mounts
16:20<Mawrick>mtp via filebrowser - so yea the file transfer protocol, was trying in debian-next but not much feedback so thought I'd give it a shot in here
16:20<Mawrick>as it used to work earlier on,
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16:21<jimpop>works fine for me with stretch, not slow, etc.
16:21<Mawrick>yea, used to work fine here as well - think it happened after an upgrade some time ago, but thought it might be a "known" issue.....
16:24<mnuhmnuh>Mawrick: check tracker.d.o bugs; perhaps someone else's noticed it.
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16:27<jimpop>that may work, but there are quite a few places to look. libgphoto/2, libmtp, gmtp, kmtp?, gvfs. Good luck Mawrick
16:28<Mawrick>how/where do one check that ?
16:28<jimpop>https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libmtp
16:28<jimpop>https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libgphoto2
16:28<jimpop>etc
16:28<Mawrick>thnx
16:28<jimpop>i'm looking through the bugs and don't see anything yet about slow issues
16:29<jimpop>(other than slow bug fixes) :-)
16:29<Mawrick>hehe :)
16:30<Mawrick>Is it possible to connect via mtp in the terminal ? (so I could try to do it manual ?)
16:30<Mawrick>(might be related to gnome as well maybe ?)
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16:31<jimpop>Mawrick: look into mtp-tools
16:31<jimpop>there's a cmd line tool
16:32<Mawrick>thnx
16:32<lrwerewolf>Anyone know of a preseed partitioning expert recipe generator perhaps?
16:33<jimpop>Mawrick: looks like there's also a version of libmtp in buster-backports, maybe try that.
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16:33<goonieb>hello there, are usb3 to hdmi and such supported?
16:34<goonieb>where to find the supported ones to be more specific?*
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16:36<mnuhmnuh>goonieb: "supported ones" == what?
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16:37<goonieb>mnuhmnuh: the usb-to-hdmi adapters
16:38<goonieb>mnuhmnuh: they allow you to add an extra display
16:38<goonieb>I have a setup now with a five displays using NVIDIA + intel*
16:38<goonieb>I am switch to ryzen
16:38<mnuhmnuh>hdmi2usb-fx2-firmware? hdmi2usb-mode-switch? hdmi2usb-udev?
16:39<goonieb>mnuhmnuh: that must be it :)thank you
16:40<mnuhmnuh>aptitude search hdmi
16:40<goonieb>mnuhmnuh: switching tio ryzzen I loose 2 ports, meaning I will have to use those
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16:57<mnuhmnuh>oh, cool. you can roll up smplayer and it keeps playing. woohoo.
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16:58*mnuhmnuh just keep bangin' your head on it, it's gotta fall over.
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18:10<lrwerewolf>Anyone know a way to make debian accept kickstart instead of preseed? This expert recipe stuff is absolutely nuts and near impossible to find documentation for and get working correctly.
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18:16<goonieb>lrwerewolf: it's ubuntu doc, but might do
18:17<goonieb>lrwerewolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility
18:26<lrwerewolf>goonieb: Ubuntu by default will accept a kickstart. As best I understand it debian does not. I wouldn't know how to transfer that capability to a debian ISO.
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18:27<lrwerewolf>this expert recipe has basically been my job for an entire dang month... >.<
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18:32<goonieb>lrwerewolf: there is kickseed-common
18:32<goonieb> so I guess kickstart works under debian
18:33<lrwerewolf>interesting. Maybe that's why I didn't find it. Lemme see what kickseed gets me.
18:34<goonieb>lrwerewolf: hope it helps
18:34<lrwerewolf>goonieb, It looks like EXACTLY what I have been hoping for for weeks. Thank you!
18:36<goonieb>lrwerewolf: glad I could help
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18:44<traumschule>did anyone scan with a DCP-1510? it prints on first try but xsane and simplescan can't find it. the model isn't listed on the brother wiki page and https://wiki.debian.org/Brother/DCP130C recommends brscan with a dead link to the brother website
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18:55<goonieb>traumschule: too easy https://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/index.html?c=us_ot&lang=en&comple=on&redirect=on
18:57<traumschule>goonieb: how did you find it? did not even find DCP-1510 on their site
18:57<piper>traumschule: https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=eu_ot&lang=en&prod=dcp1510_eu_as&os=128 I don't own that model, I only have a little mfcj880dw but it scans good :)
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18:59<goonieb>traumschule: with a search engine, it s listed a supportedn just old ;)
19:02<traumschule>after installing brscan4-0.4.6-1.i386.deb syslog shows: systemd-udevd[405]: Invalid rule /etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-brscan4-libsane-type1.rules:9: unknown key 'SYSFS{idVendor}'
19:03<traumschule>and simple-scan and xsane still can't find it
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19:07<microsocks>hello, i'm kind of a linux noob, i am running parrot OS and am trying to install latte dock, however, it does not contain a release file for my distro
19:08<goonieb>traumschule: don't have one but can you debian poaste the content of /etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-brscan4-libsane-type1.rules
19:08<abrotman>!parrotos
19:08<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
19:09<microsocks>thanks!
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19:11<goonieb>traumschule: going to bed
19:11<traumschule>goonieb: https://paste.debian.net/1053486/
19:12<goonieb>traumschule: ;)
19:12<traumschule>sleep well, will let it rest a bit too :)
19:13<piper>traumschule: as advised in brother's instructions, add the following lines to /lib/udev/rules.d/60-libsane-rules put them at the end of the list of vendors, just before the line that says "# The following rule will disable"
19:13<piper># Brother scanners
19:13<piper>ATTRS{idVendor}=="04f9", ENV{libsane_matched}="yes"
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19:14<goonieb>traumschule: that's it then
19:14<traumschule>cool, will try
19:14<goonieb>gotta declare the vendor in the first place
19:14<quarkbuddha>does anybody know of a dynamic dns client in debian that supports ipv6 and freedns and also works?
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19:19<quarkbuddha>or just any way to do dynamic dns on debian that actually works reliably for both ipv4 and ipv6
19:21<quarkbuddha>nm
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19:26<traumschule>is "service udev reload" enough after adding 'ATTRS{idVendor}=="04f9", MODE="0664", GROUP="scanner", ENV{libsane_matched}="yes"'
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19:32<traumschule>after restarting udev it scans! the rule error still appears though.
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19:46<piper>traumschule: i don't have an error showing, but yours now works, you can investigate more by search-foo, or ignore glad you got it working ;)
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19:51<piper>traumschule: maybe try udevadm control --reload-rules
19:54<traumschule>that one doesn't show the error so i guess it's not the same
19:55<traumschule>just made two edits to the wiki. the first would have helped me to find the scanner page in the first place. the second just adds links to the brother paragraph, one of them is already there, just overlooked it first. feel free to revert.
19:57<piper>i have to step aside for a few hours, meds kicked in and they make me not function period, glad you got it working
20:00<traumschule>thanks so much piper!
20:00<piper>np
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