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---Logopened Wed Nov 28 00:00:04 2018
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00:32<ach>use Duck2Go.org
00:33<ach>sry
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09:25<chele>is apache netbeans version packaged in debian? i cannot find it.
09:27<petn-randall>,v netbeans
09:27<judd>Package: netbeans on amd64 -- wheezy: 7.0.1+dfsg1-5; stretch: 8.1+dfsg3-2; sid: 8.1+dfsg3-5; experimental: 8.2+dfsg1-1
09:27<chele>netbeans.apache.org and netbeans.org seem to be different
09:27<petn-randall>chele: It's packaged, but seems as though it got kicked out of testing. ^^^
09:28<petn-randall>chele: I think it's the same project, but just moved.
09:30<chele>the one from a.o does not seem to be able to handle c/c++ projects...
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09:34<chele>and versions do not match 9.0 vs 8.2 in n.o
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09:39<chele>The main goals for this release are: - IP clearance of the Oracle code donation. - Java 9 and 10 Support.
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09:43<ln5>is there a channel more suitable than this for questions regarding debian package _usage_, more specifically how the different suites are different?
09:44<bremner>ln5: generally unless you're willing to spend time figuring out how the debian project works and report bugs, you should stick with stable
09:47<ln5>bremner: i'm willing to. :) this is not "i wanna track stable but pull in all the new things from all the other suites"
09:47<bremner>ln5: #debian-next offers support for testing and unstable
09:47<ln5>bremner: great, thanks. i'll try there.
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09:54<ln5>some more investigation shows that my confusion seems specific to a certain (non-official) arch. i'll go there instead. thanks anyhow!
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10:12<petn-randall>ln5: Note that we don't support mixing of releases:
10:12<petn-randall>!frankendebian
10:12<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall>
10:12<petn-randall>ln5: So you either stick with stable, or you stick with testing/unstable.
10:14<ln5>petn-randall: i'm comparing an incomplete unstable with unreleased and am drawing some incorrect conclusions. sorry for the noise and thanks for acting rubber duck.
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10:43<Eigenwach>hey guys, how would I go about replacing Gnome3's lockscreen with i3lock?
10:45<grove>I don't know what gnome3 uses, but whatever it is: just don't start it and run i3lock when you want to lock your screen, personally I've bound it to a keycombination with: 'bindsym $mod+Escape exec "i3lock --color 001200"' in my i3 config
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10:47<grove>The easy answer to not starting whatever gnome3 uses, might be to use a different display manager than what gnome offers, I can recommend lightdm
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11:23<Synthea>Someone can suggest me documentations/howto on pam that makes conffiles (including [brackets material]) understandable even to someone brain damaged?
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11:57<mnuhmnuh>Synthea: man 5 pam.conf goes into some.
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12:00<Synthea>It's copied from http://www.linux-pam.org/Linux-PAM-html/sag-configuration-file.html and I've not quietly understand most of it
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12:01<Synthea>In particular how a line like "auth [success=3 default=ignore] pam_unix.so nullok_secure" should work
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12:05<itd>Synthea: And which part is unclear?
12:05<Synthea>itd, What success=3 and nullok_secure should mean
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12:10<itd>Synthea: "success" is a "valueN" and "3" an "actionN". They are part of "control" (see manpage") and describe what happens if "pam_unix.so" (the "module-path") succeeds. (N=3 is "equivalent to ok with the side effect of jumping over the next N modules in the stack.")
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12:10<itd>Synthea: "nullok_secure" is an argument for that module and documented in "man pam_unix".
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12:11<itd>(at least that's how i read that manpage. ;))
12:12<Synthea>itd, so, let's say that the chain is like, first line, pam_unix module, second line pam_winbind, third line pam_ldap, in this case it will jump to pam-ldap?
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12:16<itd>Synthea: I'd expect it to try entry 5 (which doesn't exist) next. (1 == ok -> ignore N=3 (i.e. 2, 3, and 4))
12:17<Synthea>itd, I'm not getting the logic behind that
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12:19<itd>Synthea: Care to explain?
12:20<Synthea>itd, wait, maybe I've get it, auth [success=3 default=ignore] pam_unix.so nullok_secure means that it will ignore the third line with libpam-ldap?
12:20<Synthea>(if it succeeds)
12:21<Synthea>Like, okay, pam_unix says you can pass, I'm not asking anything to pam_ldap?
12:22<itd>Synthea: More or less. Just, it's not specific to pam_ldap. Should do the same for any other module at pam_ldap's position.
12:23<Synthea>itd, does this include commented lines?
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12:24<Synthea>like, pam_unix, #pam_winbind, pam_ldap
12:24<itd>Synthea: I don't think so. (Since those are probably not part of "the next N modules in the stack.")
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12:24<Synthea>Okay, now my mind is getting more in touch with "how pam works"
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12:28<Synthea>itd, I don't get a thing, I've followed this https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.ldap-directory.html, I don't get why but my authentications hangs a bit, is this related to ldap response time?
12:32<itd>Synthea: Could be. Depends on your setup / value of "a bit" / ..., I guess.
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12:33<Synthea>itd, a bit means... about 8/10 seconds
12:33<Synthea>Maybe 6
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12:34<itd>Synthea: ldap service on same machine?
12:34<Synthea>itd, yes
12:35<Synthea>Yeah, absolutely 8 sec max
12:36<itd>Synthea: maybe look at the service's output, see if it reports anything related to your login attempts.
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12:41<Synthea>itd, there's nss-ldap that complains about cannot connecting to ldaps://127.0.0.1/, that's strange, slapd is listening on 0.0.0.0:636 and I'm sure tha
12:41<Synthea>Wait wait wait
12:41<Synthea>The certificate alt-names, now I get it
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18:57<Synthea^>itd, I hope you're online, I'm glad to inform you that I've made a brand new certificate for ldaps:// with all the alternate names I would need and it works like a charm ^_^
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18:58<Synthea>I'm happyyyyyyyyy
18:58<itd>\o/
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19:12<Synthea>itd, after I've used that https://debian-handbook.info/browse/it-IT/stable/sect.ldap-directory.html I can do this https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-ldap.html.en and it will work with the same password? AFAIR the tutorial says to store the password in a form encrypted by the client, so I don't know if it will be effective
19:14<itd>dpkg: 8ball
19:14<dpkg>Very doubtful.
19:15<itd>Synthea: ^ ;) No idea, sorry. :)
19:15<Synthea>itd, didn't know that dpkg bot has this function
19:15<Synthea>Thx anyway btw
19:15<Synthea>dpkg: 8ball
19:15<dpkg>Yes--definitely.
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19:47<ullbeking>hey all, i've got fde set up, even on /boot (i have libreboot installed on an x200 and grub is the payload). btrfs is the filesystem.
19:47<ullbeking>last night i put the system into hibernate and when i started it back up just now, after i typed the passphrase to unlock the bootloader and the linux first started booting, i got this:
19:48<ullbeking>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fbzOo5xW/boot_panic.png
19:48<ullbeking>any ideas please?
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19:57<Synthea>itd, I've noticed only now that I've sent the wrong manual, https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.ldap-directory.html
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20:06<ais-admin>~/checkraid.sh
20:06<ais-admin>doh! sorry - wrong window
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20:10<twb>I have a HP Proliant MicroServer g7 N54L. When KMS starts, fbcon goes from white-on-black to green-on-black. The video card is weird: ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family [1a03:2000] (rev 10)
20:10<twb>...how do I identify which packages to install, to make the fbcon KMS less sucky?
20:11<twb>e.g. firmware-nonfree-amdgpu, or what
20:11<ais-admin>I have an aspeed in my SuperMicro - sec lemme look up what package I used
20:11<twb>Thanks
20:14<ais-admin>Kernel driver in use: ast
20:14<twb>lsmod says I'm using ast, too
20:14<twb>It might not be fixable, I guess
20:16<ais-admin>I recall I had to download the latest ast driver package from somewhere. lemme think
20:17<twb>Oh, OK. If it's not in debian's regular repos, that's in the "too hard, can't be arsed" territory
20:17<twb>I only interact with the onboard video like, once every two years
20:18<ais-admin>yeah me 2 - I'm ssh to that machine always - never ever use the local display - dont even load a desktop
20:19<twb>The only reason the BMC card is even still installed is I don't have a spare blanking plate :P
20:19<ais-admin>hehe
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20:22<ais-admin>xserver-xorg-video-ast in available from the repos for stretch
20:22<twb>I'm not using X, just fbcon
20:23<ais-admin>does your board have IPMI?
20:24<twb>It's no an expansion board
20:24<twb>That's what I meant when I said "BMC"
20:25<ais-admin>you could use that interface to get to the console but have it filtered by the remote control app - might look better
20:26<twb>I'm 95% sure that the BMC is why the graphics are crappy
20:26<twb>Because if I remove that card, the GPU on the mainboard will be used instead, and that's (almost certainly) a generic AMD GPU
20:27<twb>(It's not appearing in lspci currently, and connecting a monitor to its D-sub port shows nothing, because the BIOS disables it when the BMC card is plugged in)
20:28<ais-admin>the bios thinks your bmc card is a video card I guess
20:28<ais-admin>can you force the bios to use the onboard somehow?
20:29<twb>ais-admin: only by physically removing it
20:29<twb>I went through the BIOS menus last time I serviced this machine
20:30<ais-admin>theres no selection for init video first that lets you choose huh. well that blows
20:30<twb>c'est la vie
20:31<ais-admin>how about adding a vid card alongside the bmc
20:31<twb>not worth it
20:31<twb>you don't need to keep trying to solve this problem :-)
20:31<ais-admin>ok... just thinkin - hard to stop sometimes
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