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00:56<twb>ais-admin: hey FYI
00:57<twb>ais-admin: I happened to rebuild the OS on that N54L, for another reason. After that, the KMS is working much better
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04:52<ullbeking>Good morning all
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06:11<walking>him critical fault here, I mount --bind /lib /lib64 to a folder in temp, to make a chroot, later forgot to unmount and 'rm -rf'ed this folder. I suddenly felt sth is not right thus immediately pressed ^C, but now /lib is almost all gone...
06:13<petn-randall>walking: Recover from backups.
06:13<walking>i cant do anything now, most command report not found due to libc missing?
06:13<walking>how can i should i fix this?
06:15<walking>any help would be appreciated.
06:16<grove>Boot from something you haven't trashed and recover from backups or reinstall
06:16<bremner>if necessary, boot from a live distro to make a backup of user data before proceeding
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06:39<Synthea>I've installed squid and set it up for caching https when you use it as proxy, however it doesn't work. I already have my CA certificates set up so that theorically I can generate certificates for every site, how can I set up something that stays in the middle and cache also https? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Squid
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06:43<petn-randall>Synthea: Caching https does not work. That's by design.
06:43<Synthea>petn-randall, https://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/Intercept/SslBumpExplicit
06:44<Synthea>Then what should be the point of caching if you can't cache the 80% of the traffic
06:45<petn-randall>Synthea: Seems like you're beginning to understand the issue. :)
06:46<Synthea>petn-randall, the wiki says it's possible
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06:50<petn-randall>Synthea: Maybe tell us about the overall goal you're trying to achieve.
06:50<Synthea>petn-randall, cache https traffic
06:50<petn-randall>Synthea: And why do you want to do that?
06:51<Synthea>petn-randall, because I have a poor connection and it would help me very much in reducing the bandwith used
06:51<Synthea>đź‘Ť
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06:52<petn-randall>Synthea: And how many people are using the proxy?
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06:52<Synthea>petn-randall, only me
06:53<petn-randall>Synthea: Your browser already does caching, squid would give you no benefit.
06:54<Synthea>petn-randall, squid mantains in memory documents even for long periods of time, it will simply ask to the server if they're outdated or not
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06:55<petn-randall>... so does your browser.
06:56<petn-randall>And squid keeps that data on disk, not necessarily in main memory.
06:56<Synthea>petn-randall, I was meaning on disk. What do you mean by "in main memory"?
06:57<petn-randall>RAM
06:58<Synthea>petn-randall, I don't think that most of the data that I would cache would take only 40MB of disk space
06:59<petn-randall>You'd be surprised about web 2.0 ...
07:00<Synthea>petn-randall, isn't current web 3.0?
07:04<itd>Synthea: Doesn't necessarily improve things. ;)
07:04<Synthea>itd, never said that
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07:05<Synthea>dpkg: 8ball
07:05<Synthea>poor dpkg
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07:05<Synthea>dpkg: 8ball
07:05<dpkg>As I see it, yes.
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07:08<petn-randall>Synthea: My firefox is using 1 GB. You can tweak that setting in about:config -> browser.cache.disk.capacity
07:09<petn-randall>Synthea: It won't necessarily improve things, though. For caching to happen, the web server has to properly timestamp the web pages, which most websites simply don't do (correctly).
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10:00<WoC>trying to compile my own kernel, but i am missing something, any ideas as to what ? make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'debian/certs/test-signing-certs.pem', needed by 'certs/x509_certificate_list'. Stop.
10:07<piper>it's been awhile since i built a kernel, but iirc you have to remove CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYS from .config before building the kernel, I would also wait for others to reply, like I said, it's been awhile and things change
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10:08<WoC>k ty appreciated
10:08<piper>WoC: you might have to do CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_ALL, CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY and CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYS also, not sure
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10:17<WoC>k, i think that one was the only one with a named pem file (non-existant)
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10:18<WoC>yup, grep -i pem .config reveals no hits ;]
10:19<piper>cool \o/
10:19<WoC>Remaking the kernel and updating at the same time to have it customized to my specific cpu
10:20<WoC>ppc970 btw ;]
10:20<piper>;)
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11:07<Synthea>I've configured a ldap database by doing this https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.ldap-directory.html but by doing ldapsearch -x -b dc=mymachine,dc=domain when I go to the uids there isn't any userPassword:
11:08<petn-randall>Synthea: That would be a huge security hole, wouldn't it?
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11:08<Synthea>petn-randall, idk, in this it's shown but encrypted http://linuxdidattica.org/docs/altre_scuole/planck/samba/samba_e_openldap_gestione_centralizzata_degli_utenti_di_ret.html
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11:10<petn-randall>Synthea: I don't speak italian. Anonymous users are generally not allowed to access the hashed (not "encrypted") passwords, as this would lead to abuse.
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11:10<Synthea>petn-randall, so I should authenticate?
11:10<petn-randall>If they set it up that way it usually means they lack the understanding. You don't need to access the password field to authenticate.
11:11<petn-randall>... authenticate other users.
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11:11<Synthea>petn-randall, then how it's stored? I mean there should be a password somewhere in ldap data
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11:12<petn-randall>Synthea: It's salted and hashed, the usual storing procedure for passwords.
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11:12<Synthea>petn-randall, yeah, but since I want it shared with samba I want to know how to inclue it, so in what field it is stored
11:13<matjaz>hi, i have a problem with importing .ovpn file to nmcli via gui on gnome. Running sudo openvpn --config /path/to/file works, but importing via gui make an error which says that a tls-crypt key in .ovpn file is not supported. I'm running Debian Stretch
11:13<Synthea>*include
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11:14<bltzfsck>been reading "Debian Reference" and a lot of what it covers (particularly re: network tools) is deprecated. What's the best detailed treatment of stretch?
11:14<petn-randall>Synthea: I don't understand what you're asking for.
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11:15<Synthea>petn-randall, I want to sync most programs that can use pam and authenticate with openldap only
11:16<petn-randall>Synthea: Again, you don't need to able to read the password field for that.
11:16<Synthea>petn-randall, then how should I set up samba for using ldap?
11:17<Synthea>*using the same ldap entry with the same password
11:17<petn-randall>Synthea: Samba will use the credentials to check if it can authenticate against your DS.
11:18<Synthea>What credentials? The admin ones?
11:19<itd>bltzfsck: Any specific question(s)? For network configuration, maybe: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
11:20<petn-randall>Synthea: LDAP authentication 101: You want to check if "user1" is allowed to access a resource. The samba daemon receives the credentials from "user1", and tries to authenticate against the DS. If it works, it assumes that the credentials are right.
11:20<bltzfsck>itd: nuttin specific, just trying to reacquaint myself after a long time gone
11:20<Synthea>petn-randall, oh so samba doesn't have the direct password himself! Interesting
11:20<Synthea>*process
11:21<bltzfsck>itd: debian reference talks about netstat, which is apparently deprecated
11:21<jhutchins_wk>bltzfsck: Documentation is the final phase of any project, and anything that is fully documented in Linux is by definition deprecated.
11:22<Synthea>Btw petn-randall they've used slapcat probably, so probably it's not a security issue
11:22<bltzfsck>jhutchins_wk: the heisenberg documentation principle
11:23<petn-randall>Synthea: Yes, that's the whole idea behind it. That you don't have password stored everywhere.
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11:24<bltzfsck>just trying to get my bearings, particularly w/regard to networking
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11:26<Synthea>petn-randall, so, once that the unix authentication is managed by ldap what's the next step for authenticate samba against it? It says to delete the samba database and then start over, but it seems dumb to me
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11:29<Synthea>*ldap database
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11:39<samnob>bltzfsck: With what tool has netstat been deprecated? Some iproute2 argument?
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12:37<EmleyMoor>I've been having problems with one of my machines that have now resulted in two discs offline on its RAID arrays (a 1 and a 6). One of them survives, how do I add it back on?
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12:47<EmleyMoor>Looks like it's in a state I can sort
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12:49<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: Is it mdadm raid?
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13:31<retrospectacus>oblig: backups, not raid!
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17:59<EmleyMoor>Is there a "transition to GPT/EFI" method around?
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18:16<znoteer>I run the command "mutt" to execute mutt, but If I run mutt -v it says I'm using neomutt. Then again, I see in the flags used, stuff like "/build/mutt-b092sq/mutt-1.7.2=. So, am I running pure neomutt or some Debian mashup of neomutt and mutt?
18:18<bremner>in stretch, iirc mutt is pure neomutt
18:18<bremner>in buster it is not.
18:19<znoteer>bremner: thanks. I'm on stretch, so I guess I'm running pure neomutt
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23:16<WoC>Anyone been able to install grub-1275 ?
23:17<somiaj>what do you meay by grub-1275?
23:17<somiaj>,v grub-pc
23:17<judd>Package: grub-pc on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.99-27+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1.99-27+deb7u3; jessie: 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1; stretch: 2.02~beta3-5+deb9u1; buster: 2.02+dfsg1-8; sid: 2.02+dfsg1-8
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23:41<sqrt{not}>,v grub-ieee1275
23:41<judd>Package: grub-ieee1275 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.99-27+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1.99-27+deb7u3; jessie: 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1; stretch: 2.02~beta3-5+deb9u1; buster: 2.02+dfsg1-8; sid: 2.02+dfsg1-8
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23:44<somiaj>ahh, there it is, yea look at that package name. If you are unable to install it, give good output to help debug the issue
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