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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-12-06

---Logopened Thu Dec 06 00:00:24 2018
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08:37<FalloutNVFan>hi all
08:38<FalloutNVFan>i'm trying to install debian stable, and it says i'm missing firmware files for ath10k/pre-cal-pci-0000:02.00.0.bin and ath10k/cal-pci-0000:02.00.0.bin
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08:39<FalloutNVFan>i'm having trouble locating the two firmware files
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09:23<guibr>Hi all, I bought a Dell XPS15 (https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/xps-15-laptop/spd/xps-15-9570-laptop) and I am having problems with the nvidia driver. In the stable, everytime I install bumblebee I cannot use the graphical interface anymore. It simply stop working. Now I reinstall the system and moved to the testing version. Which would be the correct nvidia driver? should I install bumblebee?
09:25<petn-randall>guibr: You can try, but I'm guessing the chances are lower in testing to get it running. The non-free nvidia drivers are often unusuable for several weeks until they catch up with kernel development.
09:26<guibr>ok, but the problem is that with the stable I cannot even install bumblebee :/ everytime I do the system stops and I can only use the recovery mode
09:27<guibr>since the hardware is fairly new, I thought it would have a better support in the testing
09:27<petn-randall>guibr: I'd maybe have a look what the actual issue is. I'd start by looking at the logs.
09:28<guibr>ok, actually, right now I just have the testing installed, without bumblebee or any nvidia driver
09:28<petn-randall>guibr: It's much safer to use a kernel+nvidia-driver from stretch-backports. testing ("buster") receives minimal testing, is often broken due to library migrations, and most important of all: It's unreleased.
09:29<guibr>I wouls like to ask what would be the correct path?
09:29<guibr>I tried this approach too. It crashed
09:30<petn-randall>guibr: You can then also do the same on testing, and likely get the same result.
09:30<petn-randall>You need to debug the actual issue to make any progress.
09:32<guibr>Ok, I will try to install bumblebee and see what will be the issues. As soon as I have them I will ask here. Thanks
09:32<petn-randall>guibr: I'd start with stretch + backports. You'll have a much higher chance to get it working there.
09:36<guibr>I spent a couple days trying this, but I failed, this is the reason I decided to move to buster :/
09:37<guibr>since it is already installed I will try on testing, but If I need to reinstall I will definitely follow your advice
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14:35<amcclure>Hello
14:37<istrive>I'm trying to retrieve the genre from music files so I can make a bash file to copy them to another location keeping the folder structure... my test with mediainfo to assess the files is returning an error as "no such file or directory" for the following command:
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14:40<iStrive>how to retrieve the genre from audio files using mediainfo?
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14:52<mnuhmnuh>iStrive: the mediainfo manpage is pretty easy to read, and it includes examples. cd to where the media is, then mediainfo file
14:53<iStrive>i getting no such file or directory when I issue the following command: find . -type f -iname "*.mp3"| while read f; do "$f [" `mediainfo --inform="General;%Genre%" "$f" ` "]"; done
14:53<iStrive>what am I doing wrong?
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14:54<iStrive>mediainfo seems not to get the pharsed $f value
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14:57<itd>iStrive: What do you want to do in that while loop?
14:57<mnuhmnuh>"... do "$f [" ..." why's that $f there?
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15:09<blast007>and you should be able to use find's -exec option instead of piping
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15:12<mnuhmnuh>also, i just ran it on a file i have, and Genre isn't mentioned.
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15:35<sqrt{not}>iStrive: also, you mentioned "keeping the folder structure" -- most of the linux copying tools, including "cp" have ways to preserve/duplicate your directory structure
15:35<sqrt{not}>without knowing anything about the contents of the files
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15:36<goonieb><hello, what's the safest way to end Synaptic being stuck on an install?
15:44<itd>goonieb: Could you describe where it is "stuck"?
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16:07<goonieb>itd: well during an install, updating grub, File descriptor 3 (pipe:[71484]) leaked on vgs invocation. Parent PID 8842: /usr/sbin/grub-probe
16:07<goonieb>itd: grub says done, but the window stays still, progress bar too
16:08<goonieb>itd: it's because of lvm
16:09<goonieb>itd: I have lvm snapshot in case, I'd close the process and try to rerun dpkg-reconfigure -a but I'm curious what one would do
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16:12<goonieb>itd: after a killall -9 synaptic : debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
16:12<goonieb>that's the return of dpkg-reconfigure
16:15<mnuhmnuh>which is why kill* -9 is a bit of overkill. try -HUP first next time.
16:17<mnuhmnuh>ps aux | grep synaptic
16:17<mnuhmnuh>or pgrep|pkill synaptic
16:18<goonieb>mnuhmnuh: now synaptic won't reload, unable to obtain lock...sorry for my french translatiion
16:19<mnuhmnuh>not surprised. it just got shot in the head, no time to clean up after itself and exit gracefully.
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16:21<goonieb>mnuhmnuh: removing locks and dpkg configure -a did the trick
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16:23<goonieb>mnuhmnuh: thing is I can use GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true in etc/default/grub to prevent os-prober (I don't know why there are issues), but when it's run by synaptic, well it doen't take into account the parameter whereas update-grub does
16:24<goonieb>and so does grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
16:24<goonieb>so it is a different command it invokes
16:27<mnuhmnuh>yet another reason for me to shy away from synaptic. i use apt, apt-get, and aptitude, but not synaptic. file a bug.
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16:59<jhutchins_wk>goonieb: Which release?
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18:00<goonieb>mnuhmnuh: jhutchins :don't worry, it's buster
18:01<goonieb>I had the same issues at the release of stretch but it sorted itself out after a few upgrades
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18:37<mdx0>hi having network problems on a cheep netbook. bought a wifi dongle. but can't bring this pc into the net. modified networkmanger.conf and /etc/network/sources.list...iw dev told me the interface...and if I use the networkmanager i can see the wireless essid's...somebody an idea?
18:38<mnuhmnuh>mdx0: ip a
18:38<mdx0>?
18:39<mnuhmnuh>at a command line. does it get handled, given an ip addy?
18:40<mnuhmnuh>see any oopsies in /var/log/messages? journalctl -b
18:40<mdx0>yes, it gives outputs
18:41<mnuhmnuh>you have nm-applet running? what's it say about it?
18:41<mdx0>yo
18:42<mnuhmnuh>any oopsies/related --> paste.debian.net
18:42<mnuhmnuh>yo?
18:42<mdx0>please a little slower
18:44<mdx0>do we can make it step by step?
18:44<mdx0>do you can guide me?
18:44<mnuhmnuh>tell what ya got. no hurry.
18:45<mdx0>ip a gives 2 outputs
18:47<mdx0>i need to copy it from the source to this pc and --->paste it
18:49<mdx0>journalctl -b gives out a lot
18:50<annadane>use paste.debian.net for pastes
18:50<mdx0>yes, i will
18:51<mnuhmnuh>yeah, just go to the end (G) then pg-up to where dongle's (mis-?)handled.
18:57<mdx0>http://paste.debian.net/1054716
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19:02<mnuhmnuh>wow. wlx00e04c2476a5 just rolls off the tongue, don't it? :-|
19:04<mdx0>you know it better than me =)
19:05<mnuhmnuh>usb 1-1.1: Product: 802.11n NIC ... usb 1-1.1: Manufacturer: Realtek
19:06<mnuhmnuh>Inserted module 'ath5k'
19:07<mdx0>how
19:07<mnuhmnuh>This Realtek USB WiFi dongle (0x0bda:0x818b) is untested! Please report results to Jes.Sorensen@gmail.com
19:07<mdx0>okay, I have much luck bcz, I bought 2 more dongles
19:09<mdx0>should I send him the output?
19:09<mnuhmnuh>wireless setting key: ssid='LEB Selig18'
19:10<mdx0>true
19:10<mnuhmnuh>he wants to know if you can get it to work.
19:10<mdx0>ahh
19:10<mdx0>okay
19:10<mdx0>what, we can do now?
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19:11<amcclure>Hello
19:12<mdx0>do we can handle this together?
19:14<mnuhmnuh>avahi-autoipd(wlx00e04c2476a5)[458]: Successfully claimed IP address 169.254.8.190
19:14<mdx0>maybe the 2 network managers make trouble...i guess it is different problem...i have installed wicd and nm together?
19:17<amcclure>is security.debian.org not available for powerpc?
19:18<mdx0>avahi-autoipd, tells: deamon allready running on PID 1062
19:18<mnuhmnuh>mdx0: run "nm-applet &", and see if clicking around in there can sort it out. could be it's just not enabled.
19:19<mdx0>nm-applet: gives out [1] 1080
19:19<mdx0>nm-applet &: gives out [1] 1080
19:20<mnuhmnuh>it's an applet. it'll be in one of your icon bars (?).
19:21<mdx0>nm-applet: is trying to connect but fails
19:23<mnuhmnuh>wpasupplicant is client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). they shouldn't conflict.
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19:24<mnuhmnuh>ignore; meant to look into wicd instead.
19:26<mnuhmnuh>i'd go with nm first, fall back and try wicd if nm fails you (unlikely).
19:26<mdx0>yes, i already started it ...
19:26<mdx0>Inserted module 'ath5k' ?
19:26<mdx0>maybe it a setting failure from me: in the sources.list or/and in networkmanger.conf?
19:26<mdx0>and maybe the wicd disturbed?
19:29<mdx0>mnuhmnuh, wicd don't work too. it seems that's the same problem
19:29<mdx0>wicd told me the deamon is already running
19:30<mnuhmnuh>try ip a again. maybe up & down, slow?
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19:32<mdx0>in the networkmanager.conf i enabled: true
19:33<mnuhmnuh>:-)
19:33<mdx0>:)
19:35<itd>amcclure: AFAIK powerpc is no longer a release architecture. Hence, no.
19:41<mdx0>both nm and wicd don't work
19:41<mdx0>not connected
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19:50<mdx0>thanks for support
19:52<mnuhmnuh>mdx0: keep trying; i've seen a lot of them eventually come around. they can be fiddly. search ubuntu forum archives for your model?
19:52<mdx0>yo, i will do that... =)
19:53<mnuhmnuh>some need a grub command line parameter to get them to initialize.
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