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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-12-09

---Logopened Sun Dec 09 00:00:29 2018
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08:53<booti386>Hello! I sent a merge request for dash here: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/dash/merge_requests/1
08:54<booti386>Is it the right place to do so?
08:54<bremner>booti386: you should probably also file a bug in the debian BTS to make sure the MR doesn't get lost
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08:55<bremner>notifications are not on by default, for $reasons
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08:57<petn-randall>Yeah, that bit me, too. Just noticed there's been a MR waiting for 3 months against a package of mine. :/
08:57<booti386>Ok, thanks!
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11:04<EmleyMoor>When I print a two page pdf using lpr, my printer doesn't duplex. I have to print from evince to make it duplex. Why?
11:05<EmleyMoor>(cups, Lexmark CS410)
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11:11<mnuhmnuh>EmleyMoor: lpotions -l then ... -o option[=value]. going by manpage.
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11:13<mnuhmnuh>lp -o option... same.
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11:16<EmleyMoor>mnuhmnuh: Ineffective
11:16<EmleyMoor>Ah, hold os
11:16<EmleyMoor>on
11:17<EmleyMoor>Set to "DuplexNoTumble" but that's not what happens
11:17<EmleyMoor>No time to resolve right now but will return during the weex
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16:30<sigtrm>Hi everybody, I have a couple of issues I'd like some help with. I have installed Debian and ufw, but I can't for some reason have it start active, it always is inactive at boot and I have to activate it manually
16:30<sigtrm>Short of setting ufw enable in rc.local, is there anything I can do?
16:38<itd>sigtrm: Did you enable it, i.e., executed 'systemctl enable ufw.service'?
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16:38<sigtrm>Yes I have enabled it, and it is also enabled at boot in the configuration file
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16:40<sney>is there something in /etc/default disabling the start? some packages do that
16:42<sigtrm>bsdmainutils dbus irqbalance nss rsyslog ufw cron hwclock networking raspi3-firmware ssh useradd
16:42<sigtrm>That's all I have in that folder, nothing that seems to me that would be doing this
16:43<sigtrm>I have tried just writing "ufw enable" in rc.local and that works, I just feel like it shouldn't be done this way
16:45<sney>so what's in /etc/default/ufw?
16:45<sney>either it's being explicitly disabled by something, or the systemd unit file doesn't have the right deps in it
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17:22<exell_>Hi, is this the help channel for debian linux?
17:23<annadane>sure is
17:24<exell_>exellent, I wonder if anyone can tell me how to re-organise items around the task bar with cinnamon?
17:24<exell_>I messed about with the applets, now the menu button is at the right and not the left and I can't move it across back to the left, no menu and google search is useless
17:28<sigtrm>sney: It's just the default that comes with it, I can post it here if you want
17:29<sney>I'm just telling you that you should read it and see if there is something in there keeping ufw from starting
17:29<sigtrm>WHen I check the journal of systemd it is sucessfully, so I am not sure how to find what disables it
17:31<sigtrm>Yeah I did read but it's just default policies, ipv6, what modules to use, and if it is using the iptables backend, there's nothing that should say it disables it
17:31<sigtrm>Any idea if I can see if something interacts with ufw at bootup?
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17:58<Brigo>exell_, you better ask people who use cinnamon.
18:03<enyc>I notice clem//linuxmint doing lots of upstream-updates in cinnamon, not sure how 'behind' debian cinnamon pkgs are ...
18:04<enyc>maybe it works fine and very usable =)
18:05<enyc>I was helping testing-out screen-rotation-stuff =)
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20:23<DebianNoob>Any security reasons to update the Firefox that comes with Deb 9.6?
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