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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-12-20

---Logopened Thu Dec 20 00:00:44 2018
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02:32<mch>Dpkg play despacito
02:32<dpkg>mch: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
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03:20<Anarka>that was random :)
03:20<SpeedyG>and at the same time the only sane response to a request for playing that song ^_^
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03:28<fernie>hi, as debian user for past 20 years, i'm quite disappointed by a-h teams decision to remove weboob from repository. imo the only offensive thing here is the a-h teams action itself.
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03:35<jm_>not sure if it makes sense to discuss that here
03:37<fernie>not sure it makse sense to discuss at all, obviously it has gone past sense. just wanted to express my disappointment on how things are going. not going to rant about it anymore
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08:57<wearyhacker>Where is the best place to ask a question about compiling from downloaded source packages and using quilt?
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08:59<jimpop>wearyhacker: probably over in ##workingset
08:59<jimpop>(which is on freenode)
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09:00<jimpop>the alternative spot would be the debian-mentors mailing list
09:01<wearyhacker>jimpop: Thanks I will pop over to freenode and have a look
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09:10<pdo_fn14_>I've problem with openbox-menu
09:10*pdo_fn14_ File applications.menu doesn’t exist. Can’t create menu.
09:10<pdo_fn14_>What's wrong?
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12:11<Nickkkkkkk>ahhh there we go, that was a right ball ache to get in here for a bit help...
12:11<Nickkkkkkk>im having issues installing stretch on my sons laptop guys
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12:12<Nickkkkkkk>i get the error "debootstrap warning: couldnt download debconf stretch install"
12:12<petn-randall>Nickkkkkkk: How are you trying to install?
12:13<Nickkkkkkk>from an sd card
12:13<Nickkkkkkk>ive tried remounting it but that fails
12:14<Nickkkkkkk>thats the only suggestion i can find on google
12:16<petn-randall>Nickkkkkkk: Try using one of the recommended installation methods in the release notes. I'd go with the firmware installer on an USB stick, if that's possible.
12:16<petn-randall>!firmware installer
12:16<dpkg>Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>.
12:17<Nickkkkkkk>i dont think its a firmware issue as ive installed from an sd card on this lappy a hundred times
12:17<petn-randall>Nickkkkkkk: Ok, but how did you prepare the SD card, and how are you booting from it?
12:18<Nickkkkkkk>zero'd it, then dd'd the debian iso image to it like i always do, then booted directly from it at startup
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12:18<Nickkkkkkk>http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/stuff/debian-bootable-usb.html
12:18<Nickkkkkkk>^^ like that
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12:19<petn-randall>Nickkkkkkk: Which image did you pick?
12:19<Nickkkkkkk>the latest stretch dvd1
12:19<petn-randall>Nickkkkkkk: Do you still have the link?
12:19<Nickkkkkkk>https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-dvd/
12:19<Nickkkkkkk>that one ^^
12:20<Nickkkkkkk>i just grabbed the first dvd image like i always do
12:21<Nickkkkkkk>i always have issues with stretch which is why ive been using jessie still for so long.... but i now need stretch
12:21<Nickkkkkkk>its normally the networking that does me... this is new
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12:26<Nickkkkkkk>i only wanna upgrade to stretch so me and my boy can play the latest version of 0ad lol
12:28<petn-randall>Nickkkkkkk: And you downloaded the torrent?
12:28<Nickkkkkkk>yup
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12:29<petn-randall>Nickkkkkkk: Weird. What kind of laptop is this?
12:29<Nickkkkkkk>im no noob when it comes to installing tbh... im not a genious by far but i do manage servers (a lot) which involves installing des on a daily basis sometimes
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12:30<Nickkkkkkk>its pretty newish... an acer aspire
12:30<Nickkkkkkk>i3
12:30<Nickkkkkkk>jessie installs fine
12:30<Nickkkkkkk>stretch annoys the sh!t outa me tbh
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12:32<Nickkkkkkk>syslog tells me... "WARNING **: Configuration 'bootstrap-base' failed with error code 1"
12:32<Nickkkkkkk>how enlightening
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12:34<Nickkkkkkk>is there any way to upgrade to stretch from a jessie install?
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12:35<broseph>Nickkkkkkk: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
12:35<Brigo>Nickkkkkkk, of course
12:36<Nickkkkkkk>ty broseph
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12:40<annadane>(if i386 is your architecture)
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12:41<Nickkkkkkk>annadane: it isnt, but it doesnt seem specific??
12:41<arto>yea, same sources
12:41<Nickkkkkkk>i know it says i386 in the title but its all the same
12:42<annadane>i don't know, i haven't looked at the differences
12:42<annadane>but you may as well use the one for your architecture
12:42<Nickkkkkkk>thanks a bunch anyway guys, i'll give this a try as it seems to be the best bet
12:42<arto>annadane: you are mixing things
12:43<Nickkkkkkk>https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html
12:43<Nickkkkkkk>it's exactly the same
12:43<Nickkkkkkk>arto: indeed
12:43<annadane>i mean you're just looking at the titles of the sections
12:43<annadane>the content of the sections may or may not be different
12:44<Nickkkkkkk>they're not and zero reason why they would be
12:45<Nickkkkkkk>unless im missing something? feel free to point it out if i am
12:45<annadane>i don't care any more...
12:45<Nickkkkkkk>k... :/
12:46*Nickkkkkkk chuckles and gets back to what he was doing
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12:49<piper> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=916900
12:49<piper>ouch, sorry wrong channel
12:52<Nickkkkkkk>fml... just told my boy i need to put jessie back on his lappy, to which he replies... "whos she?"
12:52<Nickkkkkkk>an 8 year old that doesnt know toy story peoples... i feel like a shitty parent nnow :<
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15:55<fdelapena>so, is debian willing to remove "thefuck" package too?
15:56<piper>:)
15:57<piper>or go language golang-github-gosexy-gettext-dev
15:58<piper>or breast feeding in public
15:59<piper>rant over
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16:04<fdelapena>patching accessibility toolkits to add some screenreader-like assistive technology to censor stuff thinking on integrating "offense sensitive" disability users would be cheaper to maintain
16:04<fdelapena>sensitivity
16:05<fdelapena>there are tons of stuff which may harm that kind of users
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16:22<rosaage>What is the preferred way to automount a usb NTFS hdd?
16:26<Synthea>What does exactly "label" in /etc/gai.conf? Does something on precedence?
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16:47<rwp>rosaage, I prefer never to automatically mount media. Therefore I try never to enable that feature. But often it is a feature of the heavy Desktop Environments such as GNOME and KDE and the others like those.
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16:49<rwp>Synthea, Please see "man gai.conf" page for the documention on label in that file.
16:49<Synthea>Already done that.
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