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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-12-26

---Logopened Wed Dec 26 00:00:53 2018
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00:02-!-watchcat is "rn" on #debian #tor-project
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00:34-!-user01 is "realname" on #debian #debian-multimedia
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01:20-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #debian #oftc
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02:05-!-schizo is "me without a mic is like a beat without a snare" on #oftc #moocows
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02:11-!-schizo is "me without a mic is like a beat without a snare" on #tor-project #tor-dev #oftc #moocows #linux #debian
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02:25-!-}ls{ is "nobody" on #debian-nginx #debian-localgroups #debian-lan #debian-kde #debian-django #debian
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03:08-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #siduction-admin #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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03:48-!-annadane is "realname" on #debian-live #privacytech #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-devel-changes #debian-apt #debian
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04:59-!-Talkless is "Vincas" on #debian-next #debian
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04:59-!-Volley is "Wolfgang Scheicher" on #realraum #virt #debian-live #debian-kde #debian-next #debian
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07:40-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian-next #debian #debian-kde #debian-desktop #security #debian.or.at #debian-mozilla
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07:47-!-larjona is "Laura Arjona Reina" on #debian-localgroups #kgb-devel @#debian-madrid #debian-next #debian-live #debian #debian-debsources #debian-es #debconf-hamburg #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-gnupg #debian-dpp #debconf-bursaries #debian-edu #debian-devel-es #debian-med #debian-policy #debian-kde #debian-lts #backchannel #debian-lists #debian-desktop #debian-i18n #debconf-cambridge #debconf18-taiwan #dpp
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09:16-!-dub is "realname" on #debian
09:17<dub>Hello, I just installed Debian, I've completed a couple of admin tasks, but now when I try to launch terminal, the pointer graphic spins and nothing launches.
09:17<dub>Can anyone enlightenment on what to do about that?
09:18<dub>*enlighten me
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09:20<dub>rebooting, brb
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09:41-!-broseph is "Timothy Kalange, O.S.B." on #debian-next #debian
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09:51-!-broseph is "Timothy Kalange, O.S.B." on #debian-next #debian
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10:24-!-broseph is "Timothy Kalange, O.S.B." on #debian
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10:51-!-broseph is "Timothy Kalange, O.S.B." on #debian-next #debian
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11:56-!-broseph is "Timothy Kalange, O.S.B." on #debian-next #debian
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13:48-!-broseph is "Timothy Kalange, O.S.B." on #debian-next #debian
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16:40<jhutchins_wk>.
16:40<jhutchins_wk>No traffic for over five hours?
16:41<jhutchins_wk>dpkg: ping
16:41<dpkg>Yes, jhutchins_wk, you are online.
16:54<sdk>jhutchins_wk: everyone is on a hangover I guess :P
16:55<jhutchins_wk>Busy with family.
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16:57<jhutchins_wk>Play your PTO right this season, you get a 14 day holiday for only six days off.
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18:41<BoulderWu>greetings everyone, I plan to buy a new Laptop today, but i just found out https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn has not been updated for a long time. for example, i am planning to buy Lenovo IdeaPad 330 15.6", but i cannot find if it fully supports debian or not on debian website. any idea how to figure out one particular model is compatible with debian? maybe any website?
18:43<moop149>Don't buy Ideapads.
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18:46<BoulderWu>ok, i just heard lenovo, dell, hp are debian friendly. but any idea how to figure it out by myself? i dont wanna bother you guys' time.
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18:48<blast007>I think generally with lenovo people would be referring to the thinkpad line
18:48<moop149>It always depends on your needs, BoulderWu
18:49<moop149>IdeaPads are a bad idea.
18:51<BoulderWu>@moop149 what do you mean by my needs. my question is, lets say, i am choosing a thinkpad, but im not sure this particular thinkpad is debian friendly or not. cause the https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn does not cover every single Thinkpad model right?
18:52<BoulderWu>and @moop149, how do you know ideapads are not good with debian? based on your experience or what you've read? any suggestion what i should read about this topic?
18:52<blast007>you'll need to research the specific model/configuration. there are some systems, like the Dell XPS Developer Edition, that come with Linux (in this specific case, Ubuntu).
18:53<moop149>IdeaPads are the cheap version of Thinkpads. They're budget laptops. If you can, and your use case allows for it, buy a used Thinkpad. Or a used Dell.
18:54<moop149>And now you see how it all depends upon your needs.
18:54<moop149>If your budget only allows for an Ideapad, buy a used Thinkpad instead.
18:56<BoulderWu>oh, thank you moop149! :)
18:56<BoulderWu>thank you as well @blast007
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18:59<blast007>BoulderWu: the Arch Linux wiki has some information about laptops as well. the info on their wiki generally applies pretty well to other distributions, so it should give you some good information about possible issues. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:Laptops
19:01<zuzabrik>check
19:01<BoulderWu>oh thx! i thought if i wanna use debian, i just need to read debian documentation, k, Ill go read that
19:03<moop149>Consider the build quality of that laptop, not just the Linux compatibility. You're about to buy hardware after all.
19:03<BoulderWu>thx! moop149
19:03<moop149>yw
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22:46<ach>i think my ip is ircs//who/ach
22:46<ach>ircs://who/ach forgive more i would lame
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