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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-12-30

---Logopened Sun Dec 30 00:00:09 2018
---Daychanged Sun Dec 30 2018
00:00-!-WoC [woc@tx-71-54-97-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
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00:05-!-broseph is "Timothy Kalange, O.S.B." on #debian
00:10-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-210-92.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
00:10-!-annadane is "realname" on #debian-live #privacytech #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-devel-changes #debian-apt #debian
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00:28-!-WoC is "WoC" on #debian
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00:44-!-Seeder is "Seeder" on #oftc #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
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01:19-!-ansel [~ansel@tmo-097-185.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #debian
01:19-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
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02:12-!-m_g_lewis [~melvin@2601:541:8200:97a3:8a51:fbff:fe48:1e94] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
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02:15-!-m_g_lewis is "Melvin T. Glenn Lewis" on #debian
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02:38-!-m_g_lewis is "Melvin T. Glenn Lewis" on #debian
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02:44-!-strugee is "AJ Jordan" on #tor-project #debian-next #debian @#debconf17-bo #debian-mozilla #debian-js
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03:03-!-balrog is "balrog" on #qemu #oftc #msys2 #linuxfs #kernelnewbies #bcache #https-everywhere
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04:19-!-dust is "dust" on #oftc #debian-games #debian #debian-next #debian-science #linux-rt
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04:21-!-}ls{ is "nobody" on #debian-nginx #debian-localgroups #debian-lan #debian-kde #debian-django #debian
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04:26-!-cyphase is "Cyphase" on #debian-next @#p4xriddle #virt #debian #ceph-devel #ceph #quodlibet #qemu @#PrisonBreak @#house.md @#heroes #guardianproject @#lost
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05:12-!-cyphase is "Cyphase" on #debian-next @#p4xriddle #virt #debian #ceph-devel #ceph #quodlibet #qemu @#PrisonBreak @#house.md @#heroes #guardianproject @#lost
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05:14-!-mceier is "Mariusz Ceier" on #debian-next #debian
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05:33-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #siduction-admin #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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05:51-!-Talkless is "Vincas" on #debian-next #debian
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06:50-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian-kde #debian-desktop #debian.or.at #security #debian-next #debian #debian-mozilla
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06:55-!-ach is "KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://kvirc.net/" on #debian
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07:05-!-dpkg is "apt backup" on #debian
07:05-!-Brigo [~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
07:05-!-Brigo is "realname" on #debian #debian-es #debian-next #debian-offtopic #packaging
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07:32-!-sidmo__ is "sidmo" on #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
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07:53-!-meebey is "Mirco Bauer <meebey@meebey.net>" on #debian
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07:56-!-Delta-One is "P.F." on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
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08:26-!-Brainium is "brainium" on #virtualization #tor-project #tor-dev #qemu #lxde #linux-rt #linuxfs #linux #ext4 #debian-br #debian #C
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09:06-!-ee2455 is "ee2455" on #debian
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10:09-!-kmshanah is "Kevin Shanahan" on #debian
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10:25-!-m_g_lewis [~melvin@2601:541:8200:97a3:8a51:fbff:fe48:1e94] has joined #debian
10:25-!-m_g_lewis is "Melvin T. Glenn Lewis" on #debian
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10:35-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
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11:15-!-bytes is "bytes" on #debian
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13:04-!-m_g_lewis is now known as Guest1438
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23:14<user01>hi every time my computer sleeps and i reenter after coming back, wifi doesn't work. i have to manually disabled wifi then network and re-enable them in network manager, is there a fix for this?
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23:16<petn-randall>user01: It might help to update your wifi firmware if you haven't done so.
23:16<user01>petn-randall, ok ill have a look
23:16<petn-randall>user01: You could also try a newer kernel in case it's fairly new hardware.
23:17<user01>petn-randall, no it's an old laptop
23:18<user01>intel
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23:18<user01>iwlwifi
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23:25<rwp>user01, I had that problem with the iwl3945 driver before. I could unload the module and reload it and it would work: sudo rmmod iwl3945 ; sleep 1; sudo modprobe iwl3945
23:26<user01>rwp, ok thanks. . .going to try the firmware in sid i guess
23:27<rwp>If reloading the kernel driver works then you can configure it to happen automatically when returning from suspend.
23:28<rwp>The process is documented in the pm-action man page: https://linux.die.net/man/8/pm-action
23:29<rwp>Use the SUSPEND_MODULES variable set to the name of the modules to unload before sleeping and to reload after returning from suspend.
23:29<user01>rwp, that will be my next step if the more recent drivers don't work . . . thanks!
23:29<rwp>In a file like /etc/pm/sleep.d/local-suspend or similar.
23:29<petn-randall>user01: no need to mix releases; firmware-iwlwifi is in stretch-backports.
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23:30<user01>petn-randall, yes . . . it doesnt show for some reason
23:30<user01>had backports added too
23:30<annadane>user01, make sure you also have contrib non-free in your sources
23:30<petn-randall>,v firmware-iwlwifi
23:30<judd>Package: firmware-iwlwifi on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-4; stretch-backports/non-free: 20180825+dfsg-1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20180825+dfsg-1; sid/non-free: 20180825+dfsg-1
23:31<petn-randall>user01: yes indeed, you need non-free for that.
23:32<user01>petn-randall, yes i did, unless they just added it recently deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-backports main non-free contrib
23:33<petn-randall>user01: did you run `apt update` afterwards?
23:33<petn-randall>user01: then running `apt install -t stretch-backports firmware-iwlwifi` should do the trick.
23:33<user01>petn-randall, yep . . . a couple days ago . . . which is why i wonder if it was just recently added to backports
23:34<annadane>doesn't look like it, no
23:34<annadane>oh. one sec.
23:35<themill>nope, it has been there since for over a year
23:35<user01>the 2018 version?
23:35<user01>how is that possible :)
23:35<themill>firmware-iwlwifi
23:35<annadane>september 2018 is the last changelog entry for firmware-iwlwifi in backports
23:36<annadane>well firmware-nonfree in any event
23:36<annadane>i can't find the specific page for that...
23:36<user01>annadane, yeah that one
23:36<annadane>but it should still be the same
23:39<user01>hmmm my system doesnt seem to pull from backports not sure why
23:41<user01>shouldnt it do backports by default? will try specifying backports as above
23:41<annadane>it won't, no
23:41<annadane>you have to specify
23:42<user01>ok . . .that's odd would think it would pull backports if it is in the sources.list
23:43<annadane>ah, i see it was petn-randall who suggested apt -t stretch-backports install, i read it as your name
23:43<annadane>yeah, you need to do that.
23:43<annadane>otherwise i would've suggested it before
23:43<user01>annadane, yeah i did that it worked
23:43<annadane>i shouldn't be on irc this late
23:44<user01>i don't get why backports arent arent pulled by default though if they are newer and one has it in the sources to pull
23:44<annadane>i don't know the cultural reasons for it but the technical reason is that it has a lower priority
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23:47<user01>maybe during release upgrades
23:47<user01>ok let me restart network services and see how it goes
23:48<annadane>fwiw afaik (for what it's worth, as far as i know) backports also don't get upgrqded via apt upgrade
23:48<annadane>so i set up unattended upgrades to do it
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23:54<sdk>it doesn't pull everything from bpo because those packages aren't considered as stable as those in stable.
23:54<annadane>yeah. there is that.
23:55<sdk>But I wonder why there isn't more packages in bpo. I mean it shouldn't be that hard to automate the process right?
23:57<annadane>it has to be built against current stable packages, for one
23:58<annadane>secondly, i mean, you can use that argument for stable too, why aren't there millions of things in stable if you can just automate it?
23:58<sdk>That I know but those test can be automated
23:58<sdk>Stable is a different thing. I understand why for example on a server you don't want to upgrade your packages to often.
23:59<annadane>no, you're right. i'm being stupid.
23:59<sdk>nah you're not
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