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01:58<legendaryfurry>is anyone here?
01:58<jm_>possibly
01:59<legendaryfurry>good to hear or in this case see... that sounds weird.. looks weird i mean. lol
01:59<legendaryfurry>trying to seek help partitioning a drive
02:00<twb>from the installer or from regular debian?
02:00<legendaryfurry>regular debian
02:01<legendaryfurry>i have data on it but i don't have a wau to backing it up
02:01<legendaryfurry>way*
02:01<twb>that doesn't sound like partitioning
02:01<legendaryfurry>of*
02:02<legendaryfurry>i want to divide it into sections the drive is big enough but i can't seem to shrink the large mass into more free data
02:02<legendaryfurry>1tb around 500gbs used
02:02<twb>are you comfortable using the command line?
02:03<legendaryfurry>yeah i'm no expert but i know a little about fdisk and a few file movement cmds like ls,mv.
02:04<jm_>is all partitionable space used already?
02:04<twb>OK
02:04<twb>legendaryfurry: do you know what the disk's name is, e.g. /dev/sdz ?
02:05<legendaryfurry>oops '/dev/sdb
02:05<legendaryfurry>'
02:05<legendaryfurry>i tried to put that in by itself
02:05<twb>legendaryfurry: OK, I want you to run some diagnostic commands and pastebin the output.
02:05<legendaryfurry>ill try
02:05<twb>"sudo parted /dev/sdb print" and "lsblk"
02:06<twb>You know about pastebins?
02:07<legendaryfurry>not at all i rarely ask for help oddly enough.
02:07<twb>Does the computer in question have working internet access?
02:07<legendaryfurry>yeah
02:08<twb>Then you can add this to a command to pastebin it:
02:08<twb>| curl -sSfF 'sprunge=<-' sprunge.us
02:08<twb>it will return a URL which you then tell us in here
02:09<twb>http://sprunge.us/ogrkSC example lsblk output
02:09<legendaryfurry>ok gimmie a few minutes i'll try to be fast
02:09<twb>no worries
02:09<twb>I'm fighting XML at the same time
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02:26<legendaryfurry>well im slow as a turtle
02:26<legendaryfurry>I goofed a few times ran into random things
02:26<legendaryfurry>even now not sure if this is right
02:26<legendaryfurry>http://sprunge.us/vjbd2p
02:26<legendaryfurry>http://sprunge.us/8HnHev
02:27<twb>OK
02:27<twb>so as jm_ suspected, you have a single partition that fills the entire disk
02:27<twb>So if you want to keep the data on it, you have to first shrink the *filesystem*, then shrink the partition
02:28<legendaryfurry>AHH. how do i do that?!? :O
02:28<twb>It appears that filesystem is NTFS
02:28<twb>You can confirm this with "sudo blkid"
02:29<legendaryfurry>it says its ntfs ._. guess it is so now what should i do
02:29<legendaryfurry>x.x
02:30<twb>OK so the tool to resize appears to be ntfsresize from the ntfs-3g package
02:30<twb>I have not actually used this before, I was just looking at its manpage
02:30<legendaryfurry>so i just need to use aptitude to install ntfs-3g? AHH oh
02:31<twb>yes. It is very likely to be installed already
02:31<twb>Because ntfsresize doesn't appear to have a "--minimum" option, and because this is easy to cock up, I recommend at this point we give up and let a GUI helper handle this for us
02:32<twb>https://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual&lang=C#gparted-resize-partition
02:32<legendaryfurry>cool ok!
02:33<twb>sudo apt install gparted, then I guess run "sudo gparted", but I'm not really sure
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02:33<legendaryfurry>ok now its saying its searching
02:34<legendaryfurry>done so it seems
02:34<twb>I'd actually try just "gparted" first; if we're lucky its smart enough to use sudo internally, only when needed
02:35<legendaryfurry>ok i'll close and try that
02:35<legendaryfurry>"Root privileges are required for running GParted
02:35<legendaryfurry>"
02:37<legendaryfurry>trying to use common-sense.exe now... uhh ok i used sudo i set it on the 1tb drive
02:37<twb>legendaryfurry: 18:32 <twb> https://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual&lang=C#gparted-resize-partition
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02:41<legendaryfurry>slowling following the instructions now. o3o
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02:45<legendaryfurry>the resize button isn't high lighted
02:47<twb>is the ntfs filesystem mounted?
02:47<legendaryfurry>nope
02:47<legendaryfurry>i double checked in nautilus
02:47<twb>I'm not sure then
02:48<twb>Double-check by running "df" in a shell
02:49<legendaryfurry> /dev/nme0n1p1 but i'm pretty sure thats my main ssd
02:50<legendaryfurry>nvme*
02:51<legendaryfurry>i'm not sure if this helps but i did notice on the gparted gui the file system on the /dev/sdb is iso9660
02:51<legendaryfurry>not sure what that is
02:51<legendaryfurry>or means
02:52<jm_>that's for cd roms
02:53<legendaryfurry>o.O
02:53<twb>perhaps gparted is confused
02:54<twb>pastebin the output of "sudo blkid", please
02:54<jm_>try «file -ks /dev/sdb*»
02:54<twb>jm_: blkid is basically that except smarter :-)
02:54<legendaryfurry>ok. once again this might take a while im kinda goofy .-.
02:55<jm_>twb: it doesn't rely on partition type field only?
02:55<twb>jm_: correct
02:56<twb>jm_: it actually even has a cache layer
02:56<twb>But the main benefit is that it uses exactly the same library as mount and wipefs, so the amount of confusion will "match" in most use cases
02:57<twb>(although not this one, because parted doesn't use libblkid)
02:57<jm_>twb: yeah just read the man page, seems a much better choice
02:57<twb>also, mount LABEL=foo will work even when udev doesn't /dev/disk/by-name/, because it's actually just asking libblkid
03:00<twb>Wooo! I did an mdadm --add-spare --replace and IT WORKED
03:00<twb>Normally I don't have any spare drive bays, so I have to futz around with bootdegraded (which isn't allowed anymore)
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03:11<twb>Also, the Gen7 HP ProLiant MicroServer (N40L and N54L) are some of the nicest hardware I've ever had to babysit
03:11<legendaryfurry>back http://sprunge.us/7Ei4vF http://sprunge.us/YNsrDW
03:12<legendaryfurry>sorry for the wait
03:12<twb>I see the problem
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03:12<twb>You wrote a debian installer onto the disk, and then wrote an NTFS onto the disk
03:12<jm_>hmm wonder why sprunge.us stopped working for me
03:13<twb>jm_: generally it goes down when it exceeds some AWS limit because it's full of spam
03:13<legendaryfurry>yeah i didn't have a usb on me.
03:13<legendaryfurry>so i got cheap
03:13<legendaryfurry>jimmy rigged it
03:13<twb>legendaryfurry: so anyway, that has left garbage at the start of the disk
03:13<twb>This is why gparted is confused
03:13<legendaryfurry>oh ._.
03:14<twb>Basically the start of the disk goes "hi I'm a cdrom and my contents is hello wol- KZZT hi i'm a disk, and my contents is an NTFS filesystem"
03:15<twb>and gparted is dumb and doesn't bother to read past the first bit
03:15<jm_>twb: looks like it works just fine in links
03:15<twb>jm_: oh different error then
03:16<twb>legendaryfurry: now if we wanted to wipe ALL the metadata from the drive, we could use wipefs --all
03:16<legendaryfurry>XD when you put it that way although i risk losing a bunch of my data you did make it funny.
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03:16<twb>legendaryfurry: but you only want to wipe teh iso9660 (cdrom) part
03:16<twb>I'm not actually sure how to do that safely
03:17<twb>If you have a spare US$70 I strongly recommend you just buy another 1TB HDD and copy all the data to a fresh NTFS on that
03:17<twb>or upload it to the OtherPeople'sComputers or whatever
03:18<legendaryfurry>given that I spent weeks searching like crazy then procrasinating putting it off for a long period of time and doing it again. I think i'll risk it. I'll copy the important stuff to my ssd shouldn't take long with my vnan
03:19<twb>The lesson here is that you should wipefs --all before you put a fresh partition table on a disk
03:20<twb>that zeroes out the leftover metadata so it won't confuse anyone later
03:20<twb>(You could zero the entire disk, but that's much slower)
03:21<legendaryfurry>I will try hard to nail that into my head.
03:21<twb>you're not alone, this kind of crap I run into all the time
03:23<legendaryfurry>but um how could I attempt the risky opperation? it looks like its done backing up.
03:24<legendaryfurry>also gee linux can be complex but i still think its worth it over windows
03:25<twb>"sudo wipefs /dev/sdb" will print the metadata it thinks it should wipe
03:26<twb>Ugh, stupid parted
03:26<legendaryfurry>its showing three things gpt dos iso9660
03:27<twb>legendaryfurry: yeah OK now you need to convinced wipefs to throw out only the iso9660
03:28<twb>so I think what you do is look at the offset it lists for iso9660
03:28<twb>and then do "wipefs --backup --offset=0x12345 /dev/sdb"
03:28<twb>Where 0x12345 is the offset
03:28<legendaryfurry>come on linux jesus... well no not linus torvalds.. richard stallman don't fail me now.
03:29<legendaryfurry>ok
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03:29<twb>once that's done "wipefs /dev/sdb" shouldn't mention iso9660 anymore
03:29<twb>and gparted should see the ntfs and offer to resize
03:31<legendaryfurry>._. 12345 as in the number that corrosponds to iso or just that number?
03:32<twb>not literally that number
03:32<legendaryfurry>phew
03:32<legendaryfurry>i just stopped for a few seconds and thought about how dumb i'd feel if i blew it because i did 12345
03:34<legendaryfurry>ok so i'm going to enter wipefs --backup --offset=0x8001 /dev/sdb
03:34<legendaryfurry>is that the right way the number is the same as the one next to the iso
03:35<twb>well 0x8001 is 32769 in decimal
03:35<twb>it's 1 block after the 32MiB region
03:35<twb>if you look back at your original diagnostics, your NTFS starts around 32MB, right?
03:36<legendaryfurry>I beileve so
03:39<legendaryfurry>entered it
03:40<legendaryfurry>restarted gparted
03:43<legendaryfurry>i think it worked YEEEEESSS thanks Guru Of Linux, TWB.
03:43<twb>cool
03:43<twb>and now I know that wipefs without --all works :-)
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03:45<legendaryfurry>by the looks of it the only file systems now are unallocated and the main ntfs
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03:46<twb>Yeah you should have something like 32MB empty + 988MB ntfs
03:47<legendaryfurry>oh.. so it actually is 1tb i always thought it just wasn't really 1tb and it was just near it.
03:48<jm_>depends on your block size (1024 vs 1000)
03:48<legendaryfurry>one thing although the free space is devided theres some in front some in the back the one in front won't lower and the ntfs won't shrink. Still to some degree I'm just happy gparted recognizes it.
03:49<legendaryfurry>divided*
03:49<jm_>read the notes about shrinking on that gparted url twb gave you earlier
03:49<legendaryfurry>ok
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04:03<legendaryfurry>I first proof readed it then read over it.
04:03<legendaryfurry>just to make sure
04:05<legendaryfurry>'-' still can't figure it out I'm not trying to grow it, but just for testing purposes I tried to merge the two pieces of free memory, but it only allowed the piece at the beginning to completetly absorb the one at the end.
04:08<jm_>you seem to also have windows, so maybe try to shrink it there
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04:15<legendaryfurry>q-q that was just wine running rufus
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04:17<PMT>Hi all, I'm having a strange problem where apt remove insserv on one stretch system is trying to remove systemd-sysv and apt remove insserv on another stretch system doesn't, and I don't know how to tease out of apt the dependency chain it's walking that is making it decide that's a reasonable idea.
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04:20<at0m>PMT: maybe on one it was installed automatically, on the other manually. or on one there might be no other packages depending on systemd-sysv? i usually use ncurses interface of aptitude to figure out such stuff
04:22<PMT>It seems like there should be some way to tease out that information from apt if aptitude is able to get at it, though. :/
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04:23<at0m>PMT: indeed there is, but i'm not familiar with apt for such.
04:25<at0m>PMT: "aptitude why $package" would show, but then again i don't know a way for apt
04:27<jm_>maybe Debug:: options can reveal something
04:27<jm_>specifically, Debug::pkgProblemResolver
04:28<SpeedyG>hm, apparently this "kernel: [465473.078869] ata1: SError: { PHYRdyChg 10B8B DevExch }" is bad news, disk died this morning :(
04:29<twb>SpeedyG: I think that's saying "some idiot unplugged the disk"
04:30<twb>If the disk itself was dying you would normally see "DRDY ERR" messages
04:30<SpeedyG>twb: if it were... was a solid mounted disk within a case..
04:30<SpeedyG>no loose wires anywhere
04:31<twb>check cables are seated properly, run a smartctl -t short, run a smartctl -t long
04:31<twb>problem might be the SATA controller rather than the disk itself
04:31<SpeedyG>could be, restored disk image to another disk and will see if that solved anything
04:31<twb>I strongly recommend telling smartd to run self tests regularly
04:32<twb>>/etc/smartd.conf echo 'DEVICESCAN -n standby,15 -a -o on -S on -s (S/../../7/00|L/../01/./01) -t -H -m root -M once'
04:32<twb>^ example, runs weekly short and monthly long
04:33<SpeedyG>hm, would require smartmontools ?
04:33<PMT>SpeedyG: that may or may not be a problem with the disk, that looks like, as someone said, unplugged.
04:33<twb>SpeedyG: yes
04:33<PMT>twb: SMART tests are only so informative about a disk's pending failure. They don't really have much of a false-positive rate, but they do have a false negative rate.
04:34<twb>PMT: agreed
04:34<twb>PMT: I don't have any better ideas for preventative maintenance, though :-)
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04:35<PMT>Nor I. Just remarking that it's far from a perfect oracle.
04:37<SpeedyG>well I just hope that the issue's gone now.. with pluggin in the disk, re-connecting all cables... everything should be firm now
04:37<SpeedyG>thanks for the advice even though I didnt ask for it ^_^ am happy to learn something!
04:38<PMT>SpeedyG: in general, that message means "you tried to send a message to the disk and we got back a notice that the disk's physical link had gone down instead", AIUI, which is why the next commands you see are it trying to reset the link.
04:39<SpeedyG>PMT: yeah it was just that.. couple of months ago it started... and all I could find about it being a potential kernel bug.. not a real issue.. until today my entire box stopped doing anything
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04:47<PMT>SpeedyG: I mean, "link dropped" can also mean "HDD problem", it's just that while B can cause A, A does not necessarily always imply B
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04:55<SpeedyG>yeah, only thing I can imagine how that cable's gone loose... the box stands on a shelve thats 'leaning' against a water drainage pipe... so that may have vibrated it to become loose after some time...
04:55<SpeedyG>anyway, i'll just plug the disk into a non-important box and see what it does... meanwhile monitoring the more important box as I used to do :)
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05:34<EmleyMoor>When I'm using flock to hold an exclusive lock on a file descriptor, I can easily exit the whole script if it fails to get the lock - but can I exit an inner part of the script? (move on to the next cane in a for, for example?)
05:36<twb>EmleyMoor: yes
05:37<twb>http://ix.io/1vcU
05:38<twb>The other way to use it is to wrap the script in the flock call, e.g. "flock /run/myscript.lock myscript"
05:40<EmleyMoor>Sorry, I'm not getting this... the thing is, the whole script has a flock call in which it is enclosed... I need to nest another therein
05:41<twb>I don't understand
05:41<twb>are you using /usr/bin/flock or something else?
05:42<EmleyMoor>No doubt /usr/bin/flock (don't see what else it could be)
05:43<twb>OK so like you can do two scripts at once and it'll mutex them:
05:43<twb>flock /run/foo.lock sleep 60 & flock /run/foo.lock xlogo & wait
05:44<twb>With --nonblock, it'll abort immediately instead of waiting
05:44<twb>flock --nonblock /run/foo.lock sleep 60 & flock --nonblock /run/foo.lock xlogo & wait
05:44<EmleyMoor>I'll explain in a bit more detaill what I'm currently doing and what I need to do...
05:45<twb>sorry, it's my bedtime. Good luck, and try #bash on freenode if you're still stuck
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05:56<EmleyMoor>Ah, what I needed in my case was "continue"
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07:10<EmleyMoor>I want claws-mail (including other packages built from that source) 3.17.2 or later for stretch, but 3.17.1 is the version in backports. Is there an easy way to attempt to backport an entire source package from buster/sid to stretch?
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07:12<EmleyMoor>(3.17.1 and earlier contain an annoyance I want rid of)
07:14<blast007>!ssb
07:14<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
07:14<EmleyMoor>Ah, great - ssb includes it all
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07:21<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... unsatisfiable build-deps
07:24<jm_>,checkbackport claws-mail
07:24<judd>Backporting package claws-mail in sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch, stretch-backports, virtual.
07:24<jm_>apparently it should work
07:25<EmleyMoor>It fails to find libltdl3-dev, libreadline6-dev, libexpat-dev and libytnef-dev for me
07:26<EmleyMoor>Trying to manually get them
07:27<jm_>libreadline-dev provides libreadline6-dev
07:28<s_i_m>Does apt-get -b automagically satisfies build-deps? I did not know...
07:28<EmleyMoor>aptitude build-dep packagename is supposed to as per ssb factoid
07:28<jm_>libltdl3-dev is in stretch, libexpat1-dev provides libexpat-dev etc.
07:29<EmleyMoor>Still complains - will ignore
07:30<EmleyMoor>No, no go
07:31<EmleyMoor>Ah, using apt-get instead is pulling in far more
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08:01<EmleyMoor>Damn - that build was not backporting (!)
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08:07<EmleyMoor>Something has obviously changed about how backporting can work
08:12<EmleyMoor>Getting there now I think
08:14<EmleyMoor>If I've built backports on one machine running jessie, can I merely install the same packages on another, as long as I enable backports, and apt-get -f install to sort deps?
08:26<grove>EmleyMoor: If the two machines have the same architecture, the package should be reusable
08:28<traumschule>This is new: apt install libssl-dev => libssl-dev : Depends: libssl1.1 (= 1.1.0j-1~deb9u1) but 1.1.1a-1 is to be installed - are my sources messed up or does anyone else see this?
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08:32<babilen>!bat
08:32<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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08:37<grove>Nothing new about that (to me), it just means you have a source that can provide a new libssl1.1 without being able to provide a libssl-dev to match. Presumably that source is not an official debian repository
08:38<traumschule>it looks like tor is providing a conflicting (?) version https://paste.debian.net/1058436/
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08:39<traumschule>i looked oddly, it's debian-security and stretch.
08:40<traumschule>what shall i do then, disable security?
08:41<petn-randall>traumschule: You're missing the info for `apt-cache policy libssl1.1`.
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08:43<traumschule>https://paste.debian.net/1058438/
08:44<petn-randall>traumschule: You for some reason installed 1.1.1 by hand, that's causing problems.
08:44<petn-randall>,v libssl1.1
08:44<judd>Package: libssl1.1 on amd64 -- stretch: 1.1.0f-3+deb9u2; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.1.0j-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.1.0j-1~deb9u1; buster: 1.1.1a-1; sid: 1.1.1a-1
08:44<petn-randall>traumschule: Did you try to downgrade from buster to stretch?
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08:48<traumschule>No, but i installed some packages from testing. dpkg.log shows 2018-12-08 20:10:00 install libssl1.0.2:i386 <none> 1.0.2l-2+deb9u3 | 2018-12-08 20:10:02 install libssl1.1:i386 <none> 1.1.0f-3+deb9u2
08:49<traumschule>that's from the day i set up this system.
08:51<traumschule>i can't remove it https://paste.debian.net/1058440/
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08:59<grove>If your system is (partially) testing, the question belongs in #debian-next, but I think the answer is, you've chosen to run testing (partially), stick to it and install libssl-dev from testing
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09:02<traumschule>is the perl migration over yet?
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09:08<bltzfsck>what's the difference between chromium and google-chrome?
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09:12<grove>bltzfsck: chromium is actually open source, google-chrome is google's closed source, that you can't be sure what does
09:13<berto>bltzfsck: see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Differences_from_Google_Chrome
09:13<grove>There are some known differences, mostly in form of stuff google has put in support for in their closed sh..
09:16<bltzfsck>i couldn't get my chromecast to work with chromium, but with google-chrome it worked fine
09:17<bltzfsck>thinking maybe google-chrome is open to connections that chromium is not
09:18<bltzfsck>maybe chromium could be made to listen on a certain port?
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09:27*grove surely doesn't hope any browser listens to any ports - and can't see the chromium he has running (for a few things that he couldn't get running in a firefox with some security added (mostly NoScript and cookie filtering)) listening to anything
09:28<bltzfsck>grove: educate me. how does cast work? i'm a little baffled.
09:30<bltzfsck>or point me to documentation? i can't fine anything useful
09:31<grove>bltzfsck: I don't know, haven't been interested
09:31<bltzfsck>ok. i have a wife to entertain...
09:32<bltzfsck>thx
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09:44<TobiX>bltzfsck: AFAIK Google Cast uses mDNS to discover known devices... OTOH, the whole Cast API is proprietary...
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09:50<bltzfsck>TobiX: my phone sees the chromecast, google-cast sees it. chromium does not. i can't figger it out
09:51<bltzfsck>TobiX: google-CHROME i should say
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09:56<TobiX>bltzfsck: Well, as I said, the Cast API is proprietary, so it's probrably missing from the Chromium build
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10:51<petn-randall>traumschule: You can't mix stable and testing without creating a Frankendebian.
10:52<petn-randall>!frankendebian
10:52<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall>
10:52<petn-randall>!downgrade
10:52<dpkg>Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
10:52<petn-randall>!partial downgrade
10:52<dpkg>This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>.
10:54<traumschule>!partial upgrade
10:54<traumschule>:)
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11:53<petn-randall>!ask
11:53<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:54<petn-randall>broseph: Do you have a Debian support question?
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12:04<EmleyMoor>Are there any "intelligent" tools in Debian foc identifying IP addresses that are "close", numerically, to each other and maybe those that, although not close numerically, have the same "owner"?
12:04<EmleyMoor>for*
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12:05<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: "owner" in what sense?
12:08<EmleyMoor>"owner" is a bit of a vague term, I agree. Was thinking perhaps the same netname in whois
12:09<petn-randall>There's no trivial way to do this. But it sounds a bit like an XY problem to me, anyway.
12:09<babilen>Reconnaissance
12:11<EmleyMoor>I'm looking for something to make my IP set maintenance easier, to block the networks where most of the apparent attempts to break in are coming from
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12:18<jhutchins_wk>EmleyMoor: There are geography based lists that can be useful for that.
12:19<jhutchins_wk>EmleyMoor: Still, blocking at the server is pretty innefective.
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12:20<EmleyMoor>jhutchins_wk: I'm not blocking at the server, but at my edge router
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12:22<hthoreau>Hello there
12:23<hthoreau>I would like to install the portuguese localization.
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12:58<broseph>petn-randall: Well, I was just seeing what dpkg could do, that's all.
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13:19<StucKman>I have a server with a wifi AP, configured as such: https://paste.debian.net/1058476/ but when (re)starting the networking service (systemd) I get «Jan 03 18:03:46 mustang ifup[366]: You need to run a management daemon, e.g. hostapd,» and it fails. I followed exactly what /usr/share/doc/hostapd/README.Debian says, any ideas?
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13:24<Talkless>Hi, would it work with reportbug, if I would write, just below "Tags:...", this:
13:24<Talkless>User: pkg-apparmor-team@lists.alioth.debian.org
13:24<Talkless>Usertags: new-profile
13:24<Talkless>Or it's Usertags: -1 +new-profile
13:25<Talkless>Or I need separate Control: user pkg... Control: usertags -1 +new-profile ?
13:25<Talkless>This is about initial bug report message.
13:27<mnuhmnuh>broseph: you can "/msg dpkg ..." and it'll talk just to you.
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13:30<Talkless>looks like I can write Usertgs: whatever
13:30<Talkless>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?att=1;bug=445144;filename=reportbug-3.39-0.1-nmu.diff;msg=5
13:31<broseph>mnuhmnuh: Yeah, I did that. Thanks!
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14:01<Andersson>Hi i have connected a usb device that got mounted at ttyUSB0, is there some way to get some information about the device like who is the manufacturer?
14:01<Andersson>im using debian 9.6 if that helps
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14:02<StucKman>Andersson: lsusb
14:03<Andersson>StucKman: i have tried that command, but how do i know what line belongs to my /dev/ttyUSB0 ?
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14:06<StucKman>hah
14:06<Andersson>?
14:06<StucKman>Andersson: better paste the output
14:06<StucKman>«I'll know when I see it»
14:07<StucKman>it should say something about communication thing, I guess
14:08<Andersson>https://pastebin.com/0AAY11KZ im guessing 232 USB-Serial (UART) IC but is there no way to get the correct one 100% sure from the command line?
14:09<StucKman>yes, UART sounds like it
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14:09<StucKman>you can also try unplugging it and running the command again :)
14:10<StucKman>Andersson: I think the kernel should know, but i don't know by heart
14:10<StucKman>I don't know by heart whic sequence of commands to use
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14:18<Andersson>Ök thanks for your help!
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18:39<annadane>i am taking away all your bot privileges and you're not getting any ice cream
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18:40<mnuhmnuh>just trying to reclaim my nick. all of a sudden, i was guestNNNN everywhere.
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19:14<broseph>When I try to enable (on boot) lvmetad using systemctl, I get a message saying that it's not meant to be enabled by systemctl. What is the way to enable lvmetad?
19:16<rno>https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/166832/what-is-lvmetad-and-why-would-i-want-or-need-to-use-it
19:18<broseph>Yes, I already read that link.
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19:27<broseph>lvmetad runs, I have it enabled in lvm.conf. It should find the volumes. I don't understand.
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19:39<rno>I made a samegame clone, https://sourceforge.net/projects/samegamegl/
19:39<rno> happy new year 2019
19:40<rno>it's made and runs well wwith debian jessie
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20:33<flymol0>hey all, does anyone have experience building glibc1.2 32 bit libraries on stretch from source?
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20:35<flymol0>Hi all
20:35<flymol0>Anyone have experience building glib1.2 on debian stretch from source
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22:14<Yst>I have Firefox set to clear everything when it closes, but there's one site that I want to allow to maintain local HTML5 storage. Does anyone know a way to allow it to do that?
22:15<Yst>I'm guessing there's not a way and I'll have to just let that site's storage get cleared like everything else, but I figure it doesn't hurt to ask.
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23:05<sdk>Yst: You can "manage permissions" in "privacy & security".
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23:06<sdk>I wonder if you could use a wilcard like disallow "*" and allow "your-html5-website"
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23:46<Yst>sdk: There are settings in those tabs fore password-management and cookies, but I don't see anything for HTML5 storage there.
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