Back to Home / #debian / 2019 / 01 / Prev Day | Next Day
#debian IRC Logs for 2019-01-06

---Logopened Sun Jan 06 00:00:09 2019
00:27-!-PryMar56 [~prymar56@cpe-107-185-106-30.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:42-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-210-92.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 350] by debhelper
01:05-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:15-!-keithp [~keithp@home.keithp.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:15-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
01:15-!-ml| is "ml|" on #debian
01:34-!-YuGiOhJCJ [~YuGiOhJCJ@00021b1f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
01:34-!-YuGiOhJCJ is "YuGiOhJCJ" on #oftc @#yugiohjcj #qemu #debian
01:36-!-broseph [~broseph@00028874.user.oftc.net] has quit []
01:40-!-hekatei [~hekatei@200116b826a8790027c54fdaf7bcc2bb.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined #debian
01:40-!-hekatei is "none" on #debian
01:46-!-Delta-One [~delta@00023074.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:47-!-uselessabstraction [~uselessab@ool-18ba9509.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
01:47-!-uselessabstraction is "realname" on #suckless #debian #linux
02:15-!-Infiltrator [~Infiltrat@000194fb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:15-!-Infiltrator [~Infiltrat@000194fb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
02:15-!-Infiltrator is "Infiltrator" on #debian-next #debian
02:23-!-IDrinkMilk [~colin@0001cb00.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:24-!-IDrinkMilk [~colin@0001cb00.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
02:24-!-IDrinkMilk is "colin" on #debian
02:40-!-LouWestin [uid319238@louwestin.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
03:04-!-wavekidsjp [~wavekidsj@00027baa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: bye..]
03:06-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:16-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
03:16-!-ml| is "ml|" on #debian
03:16-!-sidmo__ [~sidmo@00026de1.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
03:16-!-sidmo__ is "sidmo" on #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
03:19-!-mith_ [~mith@217.64.113.181] has joined #debian
03:19-!-mith_ is "mith" on #debian
03:31-!-deltron [~deltron@00018077.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:41-!-deltron [~deltron@00018077.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
03:41-!-deltron is "deltron" on #debian #sd
03:44-!-ao2 [~ao2@87.19.37.77] has joined #debian
03:44-!-ao2 is "ao2" on #vcs-home #debian #cell
04:03-!-Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #debian
04:03-!-Talkless is "Vincas" on #debian-next #debian
04:05-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-210-92.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
04:05-!-annadane is "realname" on #debian-live #privacytech #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-devel-changes #debian-apt #debian
04:05-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-210-92.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:06-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-210-92.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
04:06-!-annadane is "realname" on #debian-live #privacytech #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-devel-changes #debian-apt #debian
04:06-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:06-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #siduction-admin #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
04:17-!-BCMM [~BCMM@00026736.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:17-!-BCMM is "BCMM" on #oftc #linux #debian-kde #debian #debian-next
04:24-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-210-92.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
04:32-!-eightdot [~eightdot@customer-212-084-140-031.solcon.nl] has joined #debian
04:32-!-eightdot is "Unknown" on #debian @#limesco-support
04:37-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:47-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:47-!-ml| is "ml|" on #debian
05:06-!-dnl [~daniel@000215b5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
05:06-!-dnl is "Daniel Baumann" on #debian #debian.ch @#its-basis-systems #its-linux-systems #its-linux-sysadmin #bfh-linux-users #progress-linux #open-infrastructure #sisu #debian-openstack-commits #debian-netdata
05:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 356] by debhelper
05:14-!-aielima [~aielima@0001c204.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
05:14-!-aielima is "realname" on #tor-project #osm-es #debian-next #debian-es #debian
05:18-!-ao2 [~ao2@87.19.37.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:18-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:20-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
05:20-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #siduction-admin #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
05:23-!-DennisTheTiger [~dennisthe@c-67-170-83-25.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:24<EmleyMoor>How can I handle a lockfile (handled by flock) that needs to be taken exclusively by processes running both as root and as me, so that there is no permissions issue when I start my process?
05:25-!-nyoron [~nyoron@00027dee.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
05:25-!-nyoron is "にょろーん" on #debian #tor-dev #tor-project #debian-next #oftc
05:26<EmleyMoor>(at present root's lock prevents me from starting my process)
05:35-!-markvandenborre [~mark@5-253-47-212.rev.cloud.scaleway.com] has left #debian []
06:02-!-trebmuh [~Olivier@trebmuh.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:02-!-EmleyMoor [~phil@00014da8.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
06:02-!-EmleyMoor [~phil@00014da8.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:02-!-EmleyMoor is "Phil Reynolds" on #debian
06:02-!-trebmuh [~Olivier@trebmuh.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:02-!-trebmuh is "Olivier Humbert" on #debian #debian-edu #debian-l10n-fr #debian-live #debian-multimedia #debian-next #linux-rt #oftc
06:10-!-dselect [~dselect@dselect.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ouch... that hurt]
06:11-!-dselect [~dselect@dselect.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:11-!-dselect is "dpkg backup readonly db" on #debian ##uddmill
06:22-!-mith_ [~mith@217.64.113.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:22-!-mith_ [~mith@217.64.113.181] has joined #debian
06:22-!-mith_ is "mith" on #debian
06:24-!-Brigo [~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
06:24-!-Brigo is "realname" on #debian #debian-es #debian-next #debian-offtopic #packaging
06:43-!-FloodServ [services@services.oftc.net] has quit [Service unloaded]
06:44-!-FloodServ [services@services.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:44-!-FloodServ is "FloodServ" on (unknown)
06:54-!-wompa [~wompa@0001ac92.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:56<EmleyMoor>Is there a good way to have a lockfile, managed by flock, usable by scripts run both as root and as me, without encountering permissions problems with the left-over lock file?
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: buh bye!]
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:05-!-dpkg is "apt backup" on #debian
07:29-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@00014f22.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:29-!-Blacker47 is "Blacker47" on #debian-next #debian
07:29-!-BCMM [~BCMM@00026736.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
07:34-!-BCMM [~BCMM@00026736.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:34-!-BCMM is "BCMM" on #oftc #linux #debian-kde #debian #debian-next
07:40-!-DonaldDrumpf is "fuck islam" on #oftc
07:40-!-DonaldDrumpf [~fuckislam@185.230.124.183] has joined #debian
07:40-!-DonaldDrumpf [~fuckislam@185.230.124.183] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this is in error. (2019-01-06 12:40:24)]
07:49-!-BCMM [~BCMM@00026736.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
07:59-!-}ls{ [~kalle@000199a5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:59-!-}ls{ is "nobody" on #debian-nginx #debian-localgroups #debian-lan #debian-kde #debian-django #debian
08:05-!-xcl [~xcl@47.89.243.202] has joined #debian
08:05-!-xcl is "realname" on #debian
08:11-!-silver [~hidden@00013ad2.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:11-!-silver is "Jesse Lee Morgan" on #linux #mm #neurodebian #debian-offtopic #debconf-cambridge #debian-kde #debian-science #debian-next #debian #debian-meeting
08:15-!-helpX11brick [~helpX11br@36.red-83-34-15.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:15-!-helpX11brick is "..." on #debian #debian-next #debian-kde #debian-es
08:15<helpX11brick>hello I break my dx system I got stuck on login
08:16<helpX11brick>c-system
08:16-!-Delta-One [~delta@00023074.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:16-!-Delta-One is "P.F." on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
08:16<helpX11brick>dmamn tablet x-system
08:16<helpX11brick>any tip would be apreciated
08:18-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:18-!-Brainium is "brainium" on #virtualization #tor-project #tor-dev #qemu #lxde #linux-rt #linuxfs #linux #ext4 #debian-br #debian #C
08:18<helpX11brick>hell o brainium
08:38-!-thiras [~thiras@195.174.215.70] has joined #debian
08:38-!-thiras is "Ant" on #debian #linode #tami
08:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 362] by debhelper
08:55-!-xcl [~xcl@47.89.243.202] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
08:59-!-FromOZ [~textual@178-85-189-140.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #debian
08:59-!-FromOZ is "Textual User" on #debian
09:00-!-helpX11brick [~helpX11br@36.red-83-34-15.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit []
09:00-!-FromOZ [~textual@178-85-189-140.dynamic.upc.nl] has left #debian [Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
09:08-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:08-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #debian #oftc
09:10-!-gargaml [~js@amontsouris-755-1-26-41.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
09:10-!-gargaml is "js" on #debian-next #debian
09:16-!-ao2 [~ao2@87.19.37.77] has joined #debian
09:16-!-ao2 is "ao2" on #vcs-home #debian #cell
09:18-!-wompa [~wompa@0001ac92.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:18-!-wompa is "Tomas Heikkilä" on @#linux #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
09:26-!-FromOZ [~FromOZ@178-85-189-140.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #debian
09:26-!-FromOZ is "FromOZ" on #debian
09:31-!-Seeder [~Seeder@00021624.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:36-!-gargaml [~js@amontsouris-755-1-26-41.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2]
09:57-!-Delta-One [~delta@00023074.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:01-!-sakax [~skx@sakax.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:01-!-sakax is "skx" on #tor-project #debian-live #debian-offtopic #debian
10:06-!-LoRez [~lorez@0000f999.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:16-!-LoRez [~lorez@0000f999.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:16-!-LoRez is "Mike Mattice" on #moocows #oftc #bitlbee #python #perl #debian
10:33-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-210-92.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
10:33-!-annadane is "realname" on #debian-live #privacytech #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-devel-changes #debian-apt #debian
10:34-!-piper3 [~piper3@98.4.199.14] has quit []
10:39-!-rkw_inspiron [~rkw@2604:6000:1209:1286:1d70:4ade:92b2:54a2] has joined #debian
10:39-!-rkw_inspiron is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
10:49-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
10:54-!-FromOZ [~FromOZ@178-85-189-140.dynamic.upc.nl] has left #debian [Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
10:56-!-leatherface [~julien@lfbn-1-4436-106.w92-170.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
10:56-!-leatherface is "julien" on #debian
11:00-!-piper3 [~piper3@98.4.199.14] has joined #debian
11:00-!-piper3 is "piper3" on #debian-offtopic #debian-live #debian-apt #debian-desktop #debian-kde #debian-next #debian
11:16-!-DennisTheTiger [~dennisthe@c-67-170-83-25.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #debian
11:16-!-DennisTheTiger is "realname" on #debian-offtopic #debian
11:24-!-dust [~dust@0001ff89.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:50-!-Muzer [~muzer@tim32.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:56-!-Muzer [~muzer@tim32.org] has joined #debian
11:56-!-Muzer is "Murray Colpman" on #OpenRailwayMap #gc-linux #debian
12:04-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:04-!-Brainium is "brainium" on #virtualization #tor-project #tor-dev #qemu #lxde #linux-rt #linuxfs #linux #ext4 #debian-br #debian #C
12:10-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:13-!-stoffepojken [znc@000133f5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in]
12:16-!-stoffepojken [znc@000133f5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:16-!-stoffepojken is "Kristoffer" on #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
12:32-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: See you on the other side]
12:34-!-keithp [~keithp@home.keithp.com] has joined #debian
12:34-!-keithp is "Keith Packard" on #debian
12:43-!-Xinayder [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:45-!-leatherface [~julien@lfbn-1-4436-106.w92-170.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:48-!-rkw_inspiron [~rkw@2604:6000:1209:1286:1d70:4ade:92b2:54a2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:52-!-Delta-One [~delta@00023074.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:52-!-Delta-One is "P.F." on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
12:59-!-aielima [~aielima@0001c204.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:09-!-Xinayder [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:09-!-Xinayder is "Alexandre O." on #debian
13:18-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:20-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:20-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #siduction-admin #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
13:26-!-Xinayder [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:30-!-lord_rob [~robert@2a02:a03f:40d7:3e00:226:18ff:fedb:2662] has joined #debian
13:30-!-lord_rob is "Robert Derochette" on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
13:35-!-Xinayder is "Alexandre O." on #oftc
13:35-!-Xinayder [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:36-!-bodiccea [~bodiccea@home.raoult.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:40-!-lord_rob [~robert@2a02:a03f:40d7:3e00:226:18ff:fedb:2662] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
13:45-!-PryMar56 [~prymar56@cpe-107-185-106-30.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
13:45-!-PryMar56 is "Mark Pryor" on #debian #packaging #debian-next
13:45-!-ciampix [~Marco@151.62.121.195] has joined #debian
13:45-!-ciampix is "Marco Ciampa" on #debian #freedombox #oftc #osm-it #sisu @#po4a #geda
13:48-!-broseph [~broseph@00028874.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:48-!-broseph is "Timothy Kalange, O.S.B." on #debian-next #debian
13:51-!-lord_rob [~robert@2a02:a03f:40d7:3e00:226:18ff:fedb:2662] has joined #debian
13:51-!-lord_rob is "Robert Derochette" on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
13:56-!-sakax [~skx@sakax.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:58-!-hurricanehrndz [~hurricane@S0106382c4aa16640.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbye]
14:02-!-hurricanehrndz [~hurricane@S0106382c4aa16640.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
14:02-!-hurricanehrndz is "Carlos Hernandez" on #virt #debian
14:07-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #debian
14:07-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian #debian-kde #debian-desktop #security #debian.or.at #debian-mozilla
14:14-!-watchcat [~un@0002859c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:19-!-watchcat [~un@0002859c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:19-!-watchcat is "rn" on #debian #tor-project
14:26-!-bodiccea [~bodiccea@home.raoult.com] has joined #debian
14:26-!-bodiccea is "bodiccea" on #oftc #debian-next #debian #bash #kernelnewbies
14:29-!-semeion [~semeion@0001996c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:29-!-semeion is "semeion" on #help #oftc #lxde #debian-br #debian #bitlbee
14:33-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:37-!-AfroThundr [~AfroThund@pool-71-244-226-201.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
14:37-!-nyoron [~nyoron@00027dee.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:38-!-AfroThundr [~AfroThund@pool-71-244-226-201.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
14:38-!-AfroThundr is "Eddie J Carswell II" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
14:39-!-_pa [~pav@ec2-3-16-187-133.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #debian
14:39-!-_pa is "pav" on #qemu #Corsair #linux #moocows #debian
14:39-!-nyoron [~nyoron@00027dee.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:39-!-nyoron is "にょろーん" on #debian #tor-dev #tor-project #debian-next #oftc
14:39-!-PityDaFool [~AfroThund@pool-71-244-226-201.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
14:39-!-PityDaFool is "Eddie J Carswell II" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
14:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 368] by debhelper
14:40-!-PityDaFool [~AfroThund@pool-71-244-226-201.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:41-!-PityDaFool [~AfroThund@pool-71-244-226-201.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
14:41-!-PityDaFool is "Eddie J Carswell II" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
14:44-!-PityDaFool [~AfroThund@pool-71-244-226-201.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:44-!-AfroThundr [~AfroThund@pool-71-244-226-201.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:57-!-DebianNoob [~mike@2601:243:ca00:2310:70b5:64c3:2136:4379] has joined #debian
14:57-!-DebianNoob is "mike" on #debian
14:58<DebianNoob>Hello, trying to understand how to share a folder on Ubuntu to access from Debian. Also, what is needed for quick folder sharing off of Debian as well to any Linux distro
15:02-!-nyoron [~nyoron@00027dee.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:02-!-nyoron [~nyoron@00027dee.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:02-!-nyoron is "にょろーん" on #debian #tor-dev #tor-project #debian-next #oftc
15:02<sney>!nfs howto
15:02<dpkg>Network File System (NFS) is a distributed file system protocol developed by Sun Microsystems. To set up and secure, read the Linux NFS-HOWTO at http://nfs.sf.net/nfs-howto/ . For notes on NFSv4 in Debian, see /usr/share/doc/nfs-common/README.Debian.nfsv4. Mailing list: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-nfs . http://wiki.debian.org/NFS http://nfs.sf.net/ #linux-nfs on irc.oftc.net.
15:03<sney>cifs/samba is also available, but has more steps, and if it's being shared linux to linux then it's extra unneeded hassle
15:06<DebianNoob>Ok so for example why would a share have issues from Ubuntu in regards to copying files from Debian to Ubuntu then not being able to delete from Ubuntu - like the Debian permissions stayed once the file hit Ubuntu?
15:13-!-ruipb [~ruipb@00012b82.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:13-!-ruipb is "RuiBranco" on #debian #debian-l10n-pt #debconf-subs
15:16<DebianNoob>Under Debian is there a file manager that looks most like Windows File Explorer?
15:17-!-m_g_lewis [~melvin@2601:541:8200:97a3:8a51:fbff:fe48:1e94] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:18<legendaryfurry>I dodn't usually answer questions. But. Yes.
15:18<legendaryfurry>Usually people use themes to pull stuff like that. There isn't a particular one.
15:18<legendaryfurry>But many of the modern onces can be themed.
15:19<DebianNoob>Ok I like KDE overall but have tried a few file managers and cannot find one that suits me
15:20<Delta-One>you really prefer the Windows Explorer to Dolphin ?
15:21<legendaryfurry>Dolphin's ok in my opinion, but I think nautilus is more comfortable. I do think Dolphin has more options although.
15:21<legendaryfurry>Can you list hte onces you did try DebianN?
15:22<legendaryfurry>the*
15:24-!-magyar [~magyar@00015973.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:24-!-magyar [~magyar@00015973.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:24-!-magyar is "Andrash" on #debian-kde #debian
15:25<furrymcgee>x-terminal-emulator
15:27<DebianNoob>Files - Dolphin - SpaceFM
15:29<legendaryfurry>Ok.
15:30-!-Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
15:30<legendaryfurry>If I were you I'd first try nautilus, after that maybe thunar.
15:31-!-bartm [~bartm@d8D877CA6.access.telenet.be] has joined #debian
15:31-!-bartm is "realname" on #debian
15:33<legendaryfurry>Really easy to install just type either of them into the terminal. Thunar is great if you're going for low-cpu and disk usuage. While nautilus has better aesthetics and modern features like search capabilities.
15:40<DebianNoob>Ok I think I looked at those as far as screenshots. ok thanks
15:42<mnuhmnuh>lots prefer midnight commander (mc) in a terminal. fwiw.
15:43<watchcat>^
15:44<legendaryfurry>^
15:44<legendaryfurry>But um oh yeah you were saying windows aesthetics. Well some people have had success with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5SQ_yURJ8I.
15:46<legendaryfurry>But if not that well you could look through /r/unixporn they have a bunch of theming gurus over there. And mutiple posts which detail the DE they used along with a screenshot of ther desktop and how they did it.
15:47-!-mith_ [~mith@217.64.113.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:48-!-broseph [~broseph@00028874.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:48<legendaryfurry>of course referring to reddits section.
15:51<DebianNoob>Ok yes I am using KDE which I do like
15:59-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@00014f22.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Life is short. Get a V.90 modem fast!]
16:03-!-rkw_inspiron [~rkw@2604:6000:1209:1286:1d70:4ade:92b2:54a2] has joined #debian
16:03-!-rkw_inspiron is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
16:05-!-maxrazer [~razer@pool-71-127-36-133.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
16:05-!-maxrazer is "realname" on #debian
16:07-!-broseph [~broseph@00028874.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:07-!-broseph is "Timothy Kalange, O.S.B." on #debian-next #debian
16:08-!-satta [satta@mail.sacchar.in] has joined #debian
16:08-!-satta is "Sascha Steinbiss" on #debian-wsl #debconf-hamburg @#debian-suricata #debian-rust #debian-science #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-med
16:09-!-sentriz [~sentriz@86-41-160-154-dynamic.agg1.srl.blp-srl.eircom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:09-!-sentriz [~sentriz@86-41-160-154-dynamic.agg1.srl.blp-srl.eircom.net] has joined #debian
16:09-!-sentriz is "Senan" on #debian
16:10-!-bartm [~bartm@d8D877CA6.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:10-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:10-!-Brainium is "brainium" on #virtualization #tor-project #tor-dev #qemu #lxde #linux-rt #linuxfs #linux #ext4 #debian-br #debian #C
16:11-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:11-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #debian #oftc
16:16<maxrazer>So, is a binary built for sid not going to work for stable and does the binary stop working when libraries/packages are upgraded on sid?
16:16<maxrazer>I'm imagining building binaries for debian to share that can be put in /usr/local/bin
16:17<maxrazer>Since I hear it is bad to install third party packages.
16:17-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:36-!-asternitix [~Asterniti@99-113-70-204.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
16:36-!-asternitix is "Asternitix" on #debian
16:38<at0m>maxrazer: maybe you can check out backports
16:38<at0m>dpkg: tell maxrazer about bpo
16:38<maxrazer>I've used backports before. It is a limited selection. It has more recent nvidia drivers though.
16:39<at0m>ok
16:39-!-asternitix [~Asterniti@99-113-70-204.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has left #debian []
16:39<maxrazer>For usr/local/bin I would use mostly for fps game ports.
16:39<at0m>but you're looking to install from 3rd party repo's?
16:39<maxrazer>Maybe a browser.
16:39<maxrazer>No, no third party repos.
16:40<maxrazer>I'm actually trying Mint now. However, I noticed that Synaptic links try to launch with Firefox browser, which I don't have installed, which was just a weird unsettling bug.
16:40<maxrazer>So, I'm trying this out and may go bad to Debian/sid or maybe even Siduction.
16:52-!-DebianNoob [~mike@2601:243:ca00:2310:70b5:64c3:2136:4379] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:56-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:59-!-PryMar56 [~prymar56@cpe-107-185-106-30.socal.res.rr.com] has left #debian [Leaving]
17:03-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:04-!-m_g_lewis [~melvin@2601:541:8200:97a3:8a51:fbff:fe48:1e94] has joined #debian
17:04-!-m_g_lewis is "Melvin T. Glenn Lewis" on #debian
17:06-!-ao2 [~ao2@87.19.37.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:06-!-PaddyF [~PaddyF@p5B0B7317.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: bbl]
17:12-!-rkw_inspiron [~rkw@2604:6000:1209:1286:1d70:4ade:92b2:54a2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:14-!-thiras [~thiras@195.174.215.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:15-!-thiras [~thiras@142.93.160.47] has joined #debian
17:15-!-thiras is "Ant" on #debian #linode #tami
17:16-!-rkw_inspiron [~rkw@2604:6000:1209:1286:1d70:4ade:92b2:54a2] has joined #debian
17:16-!-rkw_inspiron is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
17:32-!-thiras [~thiras@142.93.160.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:36-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:36-!-Brainium is "brainium" on #virtualization #tor-project #tor-dev #qemu #lxde #linux-rt #linuxfs #linux #ext4 #debian-br #debian #C
17:39-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:39-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #siduction-admin #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
17:45-!-thiras [~thiras@195.174.215.70] has joined #debian
17:45-!-thiras is "Ant" on #debian #linode #tami
17:51-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:53-!-lord_rob [~robert@2a02:a03f:40d7:3e00:226:18ff:fedb:2662] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:55<jhutchins>!ssb
17:55<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
17:58-!-thiras [~thiras@195.174.215.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:58-!-rkw_inspiron [~rkw@2604:6000:1209:1286:1d70:4ade:92b2:54a2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:00-!-mode/#debian [+l 361] by debhelper
18:09-!-legendaryfurry [~legendary@0002895e.user.oftc.net] has left #debian []
18:22-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
18:22-!-dvs is "realname" on #debian
18:34-!-hekatei [~hekatei@200116b826a8790027c54fdaf7bcc2bb.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Quit: Leaving]
18:47-!-YuGiOhJCJ [~YuGiOhJCJ@00021b1f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: YuGiOhJCJ]
18:55-!-Xinayder [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: all your quits are belong to me]
18:56-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:58-!-Xinayder [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
18:58-!-Xinayder is "Alexandre O." on #debian
19:01-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:03-!-Xinayder [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: all your quits are belong to me]
19:07-!-Xinayder [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:07-!-Xinayder is "Alexandre O." on #debian
19:07-!-dark-jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:07-!-dark-jedi is "Dark Lord of IRC" on #debian-kde #debian
19:21-!-legendaryfurry [~legendary@0002895e.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:21-!-legendaryfurry is "user" on #debian
19:21-!-legendaryfurry [~legendary@0002895e.user.oftc.net] has left #debian []
19:30-!-dark-jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
19:38-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #debian
19:38-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian #debian-kde #debian-desktop #debian-mozilla #debian.or.at #security
19:39-!-IDrinkMilk [~colin@0001cb00.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:39-!-Xinayder is now known as Guest54
19:39-!-Xinayder [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:39-!-Xinayder is "Alexandre O." on #debian #debian-br #oftc
19:39-!-IDrinkMilk [~colin@0001cb00.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:39-!-IDrinkMilk is "colin" on #debian
19:45-!-Guest54 [~alex@0002859d.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:49-!-Seeder [~Seeder@00021624.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:49-!-Seeder is "Seeder" on #oftc #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
19:51-!-raindev [~raindev@46.101.114.165] has joined #debian
19:51-!-raindev is "Andrew Barchuk" on #debian
19:53<raindev>Hi, There's a Debian package I'm interested in having upgraded.
19:53<raindev>Looking at https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/update.en.html#newrevision filing a bug with a patch seems to be the best option. Is my understanding correct?
19:56<raindev>Is reporting of outdated packages done through bugs in general?
19:56<bremner>raindev: yes
19:57<bremner>raindev: you can also make a merge request on salsa.debian.org for many packages, but you probably still should file a bug
19:58<raindev>bremner: thanks, makes sense. Didn't know Debian had a GitLab server.
19:59<bremner>it's newish
20:00-!-zxq9 [~zxq9@FL1-111-169-172-13.okn.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20:10-!-Brigo [~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:14-!-m0th3rsup3r10r [~mom@2600:1702:1f40:6040::49] has joined #debian
20:14-!-m0th3rsup3r10r is "mom" on #debian
20:16<m0th3rsup3r10r>I cannot seem to read dvds from my drive . . . cds work ok . . . i installed libdvd-pkg, is there anything else required?
20:51-!-magyar [~magyar@00015973.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20:56-!-magyar [~magyar@00015973.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
20:56-!-magyar is "Andrash" on #debian-kde #debian
22:02-!-itd [~itd@0002249b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (This nickname is registered and protected))]
22:04-!-sidmo__ [~sidmo@00026de1.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:05-!-itd [~itd@0002249b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:05-!-itd is "itd" on #debian
22:06-!-rakor [~rakor@45.77.54.30] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:22-!-}ls{ [~kalle@000199a5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:35<Delta-One>libdvdread4 maybe
22:43-!-Ganneff [~joerg@ganneff.noc.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 600 seconds]
22:43-!-YuGiOhJCJ [~YuGiOhJCJ@00021b1f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:43-!-YuGiOhJCJ is "YuGiOhJCJ" on #oftc @#yugiohjcj #qemu #debian
22:48-!-Ganneff [~joerg@ganneff.noc.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:48-!-Ganneff is "Joerg Jaspert" on #oftc-status #help #debian-lists #spi #oftc #oftc-staff @#german #debian
23:13-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:16-!-LouWestin is "LouWestin" on #linode
23:16-!-LouWestin [uid319238@louwestin.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
23:24-!-ciampix [~Marco@151.62.121.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:26-!-shellclear [~shellclea@00025804.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
23:26-!-shellclear is "Paulo Roberto" on #debian
23:26-!-shellclear [~shellclea@00025804.user.oftc.net] has quit []
23:28-!-cef [~cef@ppp198-81.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 355] by debhelper
23:52-!-thomasm [~tm@0001beb2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:53-!-broseph [~broseph@00028874.user.oftc.net] has quit []
---Logclosed Mon Jan 07 00:00:10 2019